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    Russia not even pretending any more: supporting Assad ground assault on rebel positions from air & sea. Not about #ISIS at all.

    Syria: What we witnessed today was the #Russia/#Assad war on #FSA while #IS remains untouched. Great work, #Putin!

    Yep. Assad & Putin troops took 50-70 km on the first day of the #HamaOffensive.
    Take care. You just entered Turkey!
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    Eliot Higgins ‏@EliotHiggins · 10m10 minutes ago
    It would be nice if the Russian MoD posted at least one video of them actually hitting ISIS targets just so we've at least one to verify


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    Even though his endgame is not simply intelligence on US and NATO systems, my guess is that Putin will want to put his forces as close to ours as possible in order to gauge capabilities, determine how easy our systems are to target, or how best to defend against them.

    On the flip side, we will get to see exactly how good Russian systems are, what they are capable of, how to identify them, and theoretically how to defeat them.

    My hope is that he invests too deeply and things do not turn for Assad. We should also consider leaving ISIS in Syria to Russia and concentrate on the Iraqi side of the border. If Putin had to deal with ISIS on his own, then he would have less capability to attack FSA elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    Even though his endgame is not simply intelligence on US and NATO systems, my guess is that Putin will want to put his forces as close to ours as possible in order to gauge capabilities, determine how easy our systems are to target, or how best to defend against them.
    Although it seems that some knees in the DC and NY are already trembling, I remain unimpressed. This is a pure 'airshow with fireworks', Putin's ToyStory with clear marketing purposes.

    Namely, vast majority of air strikes are actually ineffective. Nearly 50% are repeats (why would these be necessary if the first attack obtained objectives claimed by the MOD in Moscow), and now it seems some of always-better-knowing Russian generals forced the regime into an offensive at wrong time and place (indeed: without even considering the weather forecast).

    ...and except for Putin's birthday, primary reason for deployment of Kaliber-NK cruise missiles yesterday appears to have been 'bad weather' (clouds) in most of northern and central Syria. Seems RuAF neither likes to fly in such weather, nor can hit anything.

    Even then, several of cruise missiles hit insurgent positions along frontlines to the Daesh, meaning Moscow is now providing indirect fire support for the ISIS...

    On the flip side, we will get to see exactly how good Russian systems are, what they are capable of, how to identify them, and theoretically how to defeat them.
    Indeed. One of 'nice to have' results so far are about 10 minutes of recordings of all sorts of emissions from RLSU-30MK-R Bars-R (N011M-R) radars - and even more from IFF-transponders - of RuAF Su-30SMs, just for example. Somebody from Brussels might want to decorate Russian crews in question...

    My hope is that he invests too deeply and things do not turn for Assad.
    Except Russians wastly improve their performance, I do not see how do they ever expect to 'complete the mission in two to three months'. That's beyond illusion...

    We should also consider leaving ISIS in Syria to Russia...
    If they would be bombing the Daesh, that would be a good idea. But, they do not do so: 95% of air strikes were flown against insurgents, primarily those that are either US-equipped, or even US-trained.

    Worst of all: last few days (1-6 October) the besieged regime garrison in Dayr az-Zawr was receiving air support from the CENTCOM: Russians flew two combat sorties into the area - and then only on the last day of the latest battle there...

    Overall, declared intentions, planning of this entire operation, methods of deployment, combat ops planning and efficiency look rather as if somebody equipped a gang of kids from the nearby kindergarden with Sukhoi fighter-bombers and cruise missiles, and then ordered them to go 'fighting Daesh' - and then wonders how comes all the windows in the nearby streets are broken, but Daesh not hurt...

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    Russia adding tanks, artillery in Syria with Iranian-trained force that may number 10,000+
    http://bit.ly/1Mfcadr
    pic.twitter.com/hAyZkM7KY0

    2 videos reported to be of Russian cruise missiles on way fr Caspian to Syrian targets yday
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kWlxZNO8ZY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIKziWYVx8

    More Russian Syrian propaganda porn---
    Not content with lying about location & targets of airstrikes, #Putin's shills now fabricating pilots.
    pic.twitter.com/o1BhWtXBWh

    Putin joins forces w/ Assad in targeting hospitals, destroying ambulances & killing nurses.
    http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/....co/70UY1RnSj9 … pic.twitter.com/JoMXZa1Jme

    The INF violation - is it about a SLCM after all? My quick take on Syria strikes, Kalibr-NK, and the INF treaty http://russianforces.org/blog/2015/1...k_and_th.shtml
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    Russia says it’s bombing ISIS in Syria. This map shows it’s lying. http://bit.ly/1LiFFyn pic.twitter.com/GrycTaR2jn

    INTERESTING--now even the Russians admit their offensive failure yesterday-----
    Pro-Kremlin Journalist says there have been “no results on the ground” in #Hama offensive #Syria
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    Although it seems that some knees in the DC and NY are already trembling, I remain unimpressed. This is a pure 'airshow with fireworks', Putin's ToyStory with clear marketing purposes.

    Namely, vast majority of air strikes are actually ineffective. Nearly 50% are repeats (why would these be necessary if the first attack obtained objectives claimed by the MOD in Moscow), and now it seems some of always-better-knowing Russian generals forced the regime into an offensive at wrong time and place (indeed: without even considering the weather forecast).

    ...and except for Putin's birthday, primary reason for deployment of Kaliber-NK cruise missiles yesterday appears to have been 'bad weather' (clouds) in most of northern and central Syria. Seems RuAF neither likes to fly in such weather, nor can hit anything.

    Even then, several of cruise missiles hit insurgent positions along frontlines to the Daesh, meaning Moscow is now providing indirect fire support for the ISIS...

    Indeed. One of 'nice to have' results so far are about 10 minutes of recordings of all sorts of emissions from RLSU-30MK-R Bars-R (N011M-R) radars - and even more from IFF-transponders - of RuAF Su-30SMs, just for example. Somebody from Brussels might want to decorate Russian crews in question...

    Except Russians wastly improve their performance, I do not see how do they ever expect to 'complete the mission in two to three months'. That's beyond illusion...

    If they would be bombing the Daesh, that would be a good idea. But, they do not do so: 95% of air strikes were flown against insurgents, primarily those that are either US-equipped, or even US-trained.

    Worst of all: last few days (1-6 October) the besieged regime garrison in Dayr az-Zawr was receiving air support from the CENTCOM: Russians flew two combat sorties into the area - and then only on the last day of the latest battle there...

    Overall, declared intentions, planning of this entire operation, methods of deployment, combat ops planning and efficiency look rather as if somebody equipped a gang of kids from the nearby kindergarden with Sukhoi fighter-bombers and cruise missiles, and then ordered them to go 'fighting Daesh' - and then wonders how comes all the windows in the nearby streets are broken, but Daesh not hurt...
    Great comment----

    Video compilation of today's "harvest of regime tanks" in Hama's countryside
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxTxKqIawKk

    NOTICE the game of FB in both the Ukraine and now Syria--this video was blocked by FB on violation of terms of service AFER Russian trolls COMPLAINED to FB as they did not want the massive loss of armor yesterday to hit internationally.

    FB by the way has a 700M USD Russian investor as part owner and he had nothing to do with this--700M USDs is a lot of influence ven inside a US owned company.
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    Unconfirmed: a Ukrainian website lists names of #Russia|n pilots who are taking part in the campaign against #Syria
    http://metelyk.org/criminal/?cf%5Bna...B1%D0%BE%D0%B2 …

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    FSA Suqour in Ahras, #Aleppo fighting ISIS on 2 fronts, targeted by Russian airstrikes + ISIS tanks & VBIED y’day http://youtu.be/Ga_7tfiewh8

    Syria Intense #Russia'n airstrikes now in northern Ghab plain to pave regime ground forces the way

    Map - The Military Situation in North of #Hama | #Syria | October 8. #IUCA
    HD: http://archicivilians.com/2015/10/08...ctober-7-2015/ …

    Food from #Egypt reach rebel hold areas in southern #Syria /#Daraa/Tasil town
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qTxfnU9_w …

    Syria #Idlib #Russia'n airstrike on Masran killed a lot of residents
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw1t...ature=youtu.be …
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...04199&z=14&m=b …

    Fighting in village west of Kafr Nabudah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIiwnRay1rw …
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...47380&z=16&m=b …

    #Syria #Hama Fromfrontline at Kafr Nabudah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnreju5HrPY …
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQKs-DAiXfs …
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...96024&z=15&m=b …

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    Syria #Hama Rebels defend Kafr Nabudah against regime-forces coming from south https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmhqBOzbAyk

    @Aswed_Flags confirmed regime/russian offense on Jabal Akrad reef #Latakia, to what extent not clear.

    Heavy attacks on Salma, reef #Latakia possible attempt at a regime/russian offense on area.

    Heavy clashes this morning between rebels & Assad forces/militias in #Jobar, #Damascus

    An advanced tank named "Command Tank" has been captured by revolutionaries yesterday in Morek in Hama province --was a T72 variant not previously seen in Syria-variant is still not identified---this as an area yesterday that the Russians air assaulted into

    3 civilians killed in RuAF attack on Darat Izza #Aleppo y'day.
    http://youtu.be/YSrpQ1x-InU
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    In #Syria yesterday, an #FSA US-made TOW ATGM team take out an #SAA Russian-made Kornet ATGM team.
    Sublime symbolism
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    https://www.youtube.com/embed/CVPsyUs8rB0

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    Pres Putin says he’s ready to help pool efforts by Assad’s Army and FSA in fight against ISIS - seems at odds with facts on ground #syria

    Roland Oliphant
    ‏@RolandOliphant New Syrian govt ground offensive back by Russian air power this morning apparently. Yesterday's reportedly ran into trouble

    Eliot Higgins ‏@EliotHiggins ·
    Trouble = lots of ATGMs

    Captured regime officer said the russians pushed them into a failed battle because they were looking for a swift victory

    Russian military mindset is not on the battlefield that technically adaptable as the West seems to think--IT was all about info war for the Russian home front especially after the naval cruise missiles were launched--- for the Russian Naval "me to efforts" for the RT cameras.

    Syria: Furqat al-Wasta (#FSA) rebels kills a squad of regime soldiers in Markabah (N #Hama) https://youtu.be/vVgK6umQ3eE

    Syria: footage of the 13th Division (#FSA) destroying its 4th tank in northern #Hama today https://youtu.be/_D2-IhOZSFQ
    NOTICE--in the last seconds of this video you will hear English with an Arabic accent being spoken--"come on this one is dead-- you got it".......


    Syria: Tajammu al-Izzah (#FSA) fires a TOW missile at a tank & blah blah you know the rest https://youtu.be/yx4wHXkqfG0
    NOTICE--Russian info war trolls are applying pressure on FB to block these TOW attack videos --FB gives in all the time to Russian troll complaints--ever wonder why a US company can be pressures by Russian trolls to do their bidding--a Russian 700M USd oligarch investmentat--that is why.
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    Is Moscow preparing Russian public for a longer campaign in Syria? Today Kom.Pravda warns "battle against Islamic State could last forever"

    Syria | Government forces launch an offensive in Al-Ghab plain, around 25 km north-west of Hama, backed by Russian airstrikes – Activists

    And Russian agents #Kots/#Steshin' story yesterday was:
    "Syrian officers: Terrorists fleeing to Turkey
    " pic.twitter.com/Rh83N0c6ZA

    Regime army believed the Russian rumour that the rebels had fled to Europe. That dose of spirits cost them a lot.

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    Social media open source analysis bellingcat is taking on the entire Russian Today media front over Syrian Russian MoD released videos--he has basically proven that yes they bomb but the locations they are claiming to have hit ARE not the actual locations hit.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    It says a lot about our work that @RT_com dedicates a front page article to smearing us pic.twitter.com/gmzlJJxmmY

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    Also, @RT_com, we're not accusing the Russian MoD of faking the videos, we're saying they're lying about where and who they are bombing.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    .@K69atie @RT_com Claiming Russia lies about MH17, Ukraine, and Syria aren't insults, they're provable facts.

    Seems social media is getting the better of the Russian info war right now--

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    "The Russians are seeking greater cooperation, and frankly we don’t want that." Pentagon abandons "deconfliction." http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/08/wo...-in-syria.html …

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    1 Assad tank killed, another hit & several Assad forces & militias killed by rebels in #Jobar, #Damascus this morning.

    Reports Russian jets mistakingly bombed an Assad position on the outskirts of Bahsa in the Ghab Plain, #Hama, #Syria

    Appears the Russians need some JTAC training for their air strikes??????

    Syria #Idlib #Russia'n airstrike on Al-Taman'ah
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkJLwEbfx1E
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...46521&z=13&m=b

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    BREAKING MAJOR fighting is currently ongoing--anti Assad forces seem to be holding their own and downing Russian copters in the process.

    Syria #Latakia Ahrar al Sham claim repelled #Assad-forces #Salma

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...36351&z=15&m=b …

    Activists says 4 unidentified RuAF or SyAF helicopters tried to air-drop infantry inside Kafranbouda village N #Hama when targeted by #FSA.

    Unconfirmed: #FSA Suqor al-Ghab & Ajnad al-Sham downed Mi24 helicopter over Salma village in Akrad Mount.

    Activists say another helicopter was downed near Kafranbouda village norther #Hama. Huge if true.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BREAKING MAJOR fighting is currently ongoing--anti Assad forces seem to be holding their own and downing Russian copters in the process.

    Syria #Latakia Ahrar al Sham claim repelled #Assad-forces #Salma

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...36351&z=15&m=b …

    Activists says 4 unidentified RuAF or SyAF helicopters tried to air-drop infantry inside Kafranbouda village N #Hama when targeted by #FSA.

    Unconfirmed: #FSA Suqor al-Ghab & Ajnad al-Sham downed Mi24 helicopter over Salma village in Akrad Mount.

    Activists say another helicopter was downed near Kafranbouda village norther #Hama. Huge if true.
    Syria #Hama Reports: Rebels shot down helicopter above Kafr Nabudah
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...90831&z=14&m=b …

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    NATO announce to deploy more soldiers in #Turkey

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    Syria #Russia carried out 20+ airstrikes in Ghab plain- regime sources claim
    rebels retreat from Al-Bahsa
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...72264&z=15&m=b …

    Jaysh al-Islam says destroyed regime tank and technical in Jobar tried to advance into the district today.

    The regime stages an offensive from multiple fronts in Joubar at the outskirts of Damascus.

    #Syria Regime try to advance along western Ghab-road toward north.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...74366&z=14&m=b …

    #Syria #Hama Rebels blow up regime artillery stationed in Al Mughayr
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...87055&z=15&m=b

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