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    Footage
    The #Assad regime resumed bombing #Damascus city (#Jobar quarter) today
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzSgVIjtAq4

    Correction
    Rus bombardment, coinciding with the regime/Rus offensive on Kafarnabodah yday.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbY0eLH1UEc

    Syria More AO-2.5RT Anti-Personnel submunition in Ma'saran, Idlib. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgvrJ-5Dxew

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    @HadiAlabdallah
    #Syria|n revolutionaries near Kafr Nabodeh, #Hama, have shot down a helicopter attempting a coordinated air assault on al-Mugheer.

    I just heard radio transmission clip from rebels in Kfar Nabouda saying they shot down two Assad helicopters, not one as Reuters quoted.

    Syria #RuAF Su-34 heavy config with 4 X KAB-500 PGMs. via @MuradoRT pic.twitter.com/8lpi6KeNXW
    #PT if not mistaken, this is the first time we see Lattakia based Su-34 with this config. Prev. only 2 KAB-500 carried on fus. hardpoints

    Saudi sources now saying they are stepping up their arms supplies to #Syria in response to #Russian
    air strikes

    Syria #Hama Rebels destroyed another tank in Al Mughayr today
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...88686&z=15&m=b

    Appears that the Russians forgot that the anti Assad forces have lived under air strike conditions for now four years--they have learned and adapted to them---so the Russian shock and awe just does not work.
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    NATO ready to defend #Turkey, send troops if needed: Stoltenberg - Reuters http://reut.rs/1jb0aCd

    Provocation is a Russian core competency.
    Not knowing when to stop is another one.
    Together, such things can go very seriously awry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    If they would be bombing the Daesh, that would be a good idea. But, they do not do so: 95% of air strikes were flown against insurgents, primarily those that are either US-equipped, or even US-trained.
    We should have no delusion that our campaign in Syria against the Daesh is not helping Assad stay in power. As we are attacking ISIS, the Russians are free to attack other threats to Assad. If we leave Syria to the Russians, they will have to deal with the Daesh on thier own.

    Also, if we concentrate our efforts in Iraq it leaves less room for the Russians to move into Iraq, something I am sure the Iraqis with Iranian ties would like. Russian support does not come with “ideological” strings. Whomever the sovereign is works for them (as long as the sovereign is not “suppressing Russian speakers.”) We require at least the appearance of moving towards democracy and not violating human rights.

    Ultimately, we have no real strategic interest in Syria, we have one in Iraq. We could have more of one if we decided to go that route.

    Finally, I would love to see the Russians become deeply involved in Syria, if for no other reason, because it would provide us with a wealth of intelligence on their capabilities. As you point out it appears that the Russian Air Force may not be an all-weather force. What other intelligence can we gather while Putin plays war in Syria.
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    IS the Russian AF actually flying missions for the Islamic State YET telling their own civil society that the "Glorious Russian Army" is fighting IS and other terrorists??????

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...air-force.html

    Michael Weiss

    10.08.151:00 AM ET

    Russia’s Giving ISIS An Air Force

    Putin’s air campaign in Syria is not only supporting Assad, it’s giving cover to fighters from the so-called Islamic State.

    Last June, the U.S. embassy in Damascus accused Bashar al-Assad’s air force of clearing a path for an ISIS advance on Syrian rebels in the Aleppo town of Azaz. “Reports indicate that the regime is making air strikes in support of [ISIS’s] advance on Aleppo, aiding extremists against Syrian population,” the embassy account tweeted, following up with a broader accusation: “We have long seen that the regime avoids [ISIS] lines, in complete contradiction to the regime’s claims to be fighting [ISIS].”

    Now Russia seems to have inherited Assad’s role as the unacknowledged air force of ISIS.

    On Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s fighter jets rocketed an ammunition storehouse, destroying artillery, armored personnel carriers and even tanks belonging to Liwa Suqour al-Jabal, or The Mountain Eagles, a U.S.-backed brigade of the Free Syrian Army. A video uploaded by the brigade to YouTube shows the burning wreckage of the Russian airstrike, in Mansoura, in the western suburbs of Aleppo, as the local commander known as Abu Mohammed taunts his enemy: “Thank God, we are all fine,” says Abu Mohammed. “We don’t fear Russia or anyone helping the Russians. Bashar, we will remain resistant fighting you even without any ammunition or bullets. We will fight you with knives. We don’t need ammunition, Allahu Akhbar.”

    The cameraman then adds that the Russians weren’t the only ones hitting the brigade yesterday. “The Russian airplanes are targeting Suqour al-Jabal’s weapon depots in Aleppo and ISIS attacked the bases with explosives at the same time.”

    Hasan Hagali, the top commander for Suqour al-Jabal and a former captain in the Syrian Arab Army, explained via Skype to The Daily Beast: “Yesterday, at 5:30 p.m. a base belonging to Suqour al-Jabal was targeted in two air raids in Mansoura. In each raid, there were three Russian Mig-31 jets. That’s our main arms depot, where we supply all our units. At the same exact time—5:30 p.m.—ISIS sent a car bomb against us in Deir Jemal, against our base. This is about 130 kilometers away from Mansoura.” An earlier ISIS attack against a Suqour al-Jabal frontline position, he added, occurred in Ehres, also in western Aleppo, at around 3 o'clock. But ISIS locations in the province, no doubt equally visible from the air, were left unscathed by the Russians.

    In the last week, less than 10% of all Russian missiles (and now ship-borne cruise missiles) has struck ISIS or al-Qaeda-affiliated targets, according to the U.S. State Department. What is a consensus view among analysts is that ISIS clearly is not Putin’s quarry in Syria, at least not yet, because he’s too busy killing the anti-Assad rebels supported and armed by the Central Intelligence Agency. U.S. officials have acknowledged as much.

    But that Moscow might actually be objectively helping ISIS defeat a common enemy by acting as air support for the jihadists’ ground assaults against U.S. proxies is less well understood, even though it fits with predictions warning that Putin’s adventure in the Levant was never going to be counterterrorist in nature.

    Rather, this Russian adventure was designed to fortify a faltering client regime, possibly help it regain lost territory, and above all eliminate any credible threat to its legitimacy or long-term rule which, for the moment, ISIS does not pose.

    “It’s clear that Russia’s strategy in Syria is to make the conflict binary by giving Syrians only two choices: Assad or ISIS,” said John Schindler, a former U.S. intelligence analyst and occasional Daily Beast contributor. “Attacks on the FSA, while encouraging defections to the regime, are a key component of how Russia operationalizes its strategy for Syria. Russia has excellent intelligence on Syria, especially from signals intelligence, and is using this to target FSA and others in a manner that the U.S. government can do little about now. Joint operations with ISIS are to be expected, some with intent, some by default, and should not surprise given the extent of regime intelligence penetration of [ISIS].”

    Jeffrey White, a former Defense Intelligence Agency analyst and a military specialist at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, says that while he doesn’t doubt that the Russians will eventually set their sites on ISIS, for the time being, it behooves Moscow’s war aims to indirectly allow ISIS to devour U.S.-backed rebels. For one thing, Putin’s Federal Security Service (FSB), Russia’s domestic intelligence arm and one of the successors of the former KGB, has actually been helping jihadists in Dagestan emigrate to Syria to join ISIS, the better to lower the temperature on a homegrown Islamic insurgency and also enervate American-led coalition efforts.

    The Russians, White added, have strategic form here. “We had the classic case of the destruction of the Polish Army in 1944,” he told The Daily Beast. “As the Soviets approached Warsaw, they stopped and let the Germans crush the Polish rebellion. The Red Army did nothing to help the Poles. But then they chased Germans out of Poland. It’s possible that a similar plan is unfolding in Syria.”

    But it may not work.

    “It’s clear that Russia’s strategy in Syria is to make the conflict binary by giving Syrians only two choices: Assad or ISIS.”

    One of the ironies of the Obama administration’s vow not to interfere with Russia’s intervention in Syria is that it already has—and successfully.

    Today, Russian warplanes heavily bombarded several targets along a salient in Hama province, reportedly using thermobaric munitions and the same multiple launch rocket systems earlier employed to devastating effect in east Ukraine. At the same time, Assad’s army advanced to dislodge the rebels from towns such as Kafr Zita, Morek and Kafr Nabudah. But the army failed, principally because many of its Free Syrian Army opponents were equipped with TOW guided anti-tank missiles, all supplied by the CIA. As many as 18 regime tanks (all manufactured in Russia or the former Soviet Union) were destroyed by these weapons in a 24-hour period. And the rebels held their ground in Hama.

    At roughly the same time, Russian naval vessels fired long-distance cruise missiles across Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian airspace, hitting indeterminate targets in eastern Raqqa (where ISIS is present) but also in western Aleppo and Idlib (where ISIS is not). Footage of these strikes, accompanied by swishy computer-generated simulations of their flight paths, were disseminated almost in real time throughout Russia’s state-controlled propaganda organs, such as the English-language RT.

    The battlefield may yet change following the injection of an unknown quantity of Russian “volunteers”—Putin’s shorthand for plausibly deniable Russian soldiers — in addition to hundreds of Iranian troops said to being joining Assad’s beleaguered military in the coming days and weeks. But it is almost beyond dispute that these foreign fighters will not be deployed to Raqqa and Deir Ezzor, where ISIS reigns, but rather to central and western Syria, where the Free Syrian Army plus other assorted Islamist and jihadists factions do.

    The missile strikes at unknown targets from the Caspian are meant to project “strength and power,” according to Lilia Shevtsova, a nonresident fellow and Russia expert at the Brookings Institution. “The Kremlin’s adventure has both psychological and systemic dimensions,” she emailed The Daily Beast. “On the one hand, this is an act of blackmail against the West—Putin’s way of trying to force the Americans to accept the Kremlin’s rules of the game. On the other hand, it’s a desperate attempt to reproduce the military patriotic legitimacy of the Russian government. But erasing terrorists? Come on!”

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    UNCONFIRMED-coming from Turkish sources not Syrian sources---maybe just fog of war---BUT Turkey is extremely quiet on this.


    Rami ‏@RamiAlLolah · 4h hours ago
    HOLY! There are UNCONFIRMED reports suggest #Turkey shot down a fighter jet crossed into Turkish airspace..

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    FSA-affiliated rebels allied with Kurds say they've received new military equipment, preparing for advance on Raqqa. http://syriadirect.org/news/liwa-thu...iberate-raqqa/

    Footage said to show smoke from "downed helicopter" in Kafarnabodah
    I can not confirm that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RH-kG8MW20

    Footage
    Russian Mil Mi-24 over #Morek, firing missiles at rebels around.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3c62h5rgDM

    BreakingFootage
    The #FSA fires at low-flying Russian Mil Mi-24 in Kafarnabodah
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3bDbSqtKyQ

    Women and children were hit again by the Russian AF---
    BreakingNews
    Russian air strikes hit the center of #KhanShaykhun causing civilian casualties

    Footage
    The #Damascus suburb of #Daraya today.
    Mil Mi-24 dropping bombs on civilians.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN1p8qT6QTk

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    UNCONFIRMED--only a single source has commented via sat phone-----awaiting further comments.

    THIRD Russian copter has been downed today.

    There are reports of a third helicopter downed now near Salma in #Latakia #Syria #Russia

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    SECOND Russian ground offense in two days fails to take objectives---even with tactical air support and MI-24 support.

    Syria #Latakia Regime forces failed to take Jubb al-Ahmar
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...40420&z=15&m=b

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    Syria: #Russian Mi-24 attack rebel positions in Kafr Nabouda, #Hama and deploying flares against possible MANPADS

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWJ6oFBqdJc

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    [B]UNCONFIRMED--only a single source has commented via sat phone-----awaiting further comments.
    Not to sound like a warmonger, but I hope this turns out to be true. From what I read, it did not sound like the Turks were in any mood to put up with these incursions.
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    Unbelievable footage!
    Rebels fight w/Ak-47 vs. #Russian Mil Mi-24 10 meters above in #Idlib

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TSMCkbKO18 … pic.twitter.com/jWiWMC1spB

    Awaiting the anti Assad forces to figure out that at ten meters the Mi-24 cannot withstand a RPG hit--the speed of the newer RPGs make them very effective for these low level type Mi-24 attack passes.

    ISIS reportedly shot down an #Assad army helicopter in #Homs. Pilot is reportedly captured..
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    Appears that all those Russian cruise missiles --all 26 as they claimed---did not hit much of anything except empty spaces.

    AFAIK, most of Putin's missiles missed their targets, but as we know, the real target was the media...


    2x (4x?) Russian Mi24 in #Kafarnabodah #Syria anyone ID type of rockets being used? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWJ6oFBqdJc … pic.twitter.com/uFDi6ylV39

    Report is Putin lost 2 aircraft: not sure which ones (assad's, iranians, or his).
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    First Russian bomb FSA, then the Russian FM claims they know nothing of the FSA, then the FSA kills tanks and Russian military yesterday------

    THEN this---either Russia has a very short memory or they are in an altered state of reality.


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    Syrian Express just keeps on sailing on--------

    BSF Ropucha class LST Novocherkassk 142 transits Bosphorus, going to the Russian naval facility in #Tartus #Syria

    pic.twitter.com/GI2LcydSIj

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    Really worth listening to---he is probably one of the currently most knowledgeable journalists on the IS, Iraq and Syria right now---

    .@michaeldweiss on vivacious form here, dismantling #ISIS, #Assad, @POTUS, etc, in a terse hour
    http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/74949365
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    ...If we leave Syria to the Russians, they will have to deal with the Daesh on thier own.
    I understand your logic very good (I think).

    'But - and this is something I'm 100% sure even Oblabla is aware of, although it's extremely hard to explain to 'average Americans' - I can't stress sufficiently strong the importance of Syria for Arabs and the Middle East in General.

    The USA have already 'outsourced' this war more than enough: we can see what's happening when that is done. And US allies in the Persian Gulf are already considering Americans for their 'enemies' because from their POV Americans have handed Iraq over to Iran....

    By side the oil: psychologically, Syria is much more important than Iraq for Sunnis. It's simply no place one is leaving to somebody else: nobody in the DC can go to Riyad or whatever other local capital and say, 'forget Syria'. Or if, then don't be surprised if the HQ 5th Fleet is kicked out of Manama on the next morning (just for the start, and followed by all other US bases in the GCC)...

    So, sorry, but this is something I doubt anybody in the DC would ever come to idea to seriously consider.

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    BTW, the Russian AF contingent in Syria seems to have only one 'true' AW platform: Su-34s. Su-24s are said to have deployed various KABs (PGMs) already, but were seen only once armed with Kh-25 air-to-ground missiles. On the contrary, Su-34s seem to be almost exclusivelly armed with KAB-500S-Es (GLONASS-homing PGMs). Below the first photo showing one armed with four such bombs.
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    More Russian altered state of reality--------

    Channel of the Russian defence ministry boasts "destroying American missile systems at IS positions" in Syria https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...41591243591680

    Russia's Shock And Awe: Moscow Ups Its Information Warfare In Syria Operation http://www.rferl.mobi/a/russia-syria.../27293854.html

    After losing most of their attacking force in N #Hama regime & RuAF retaliate by attacking civis in Khan Shaikhon.
    https://youtu.be/UUWidGZX_JA

    War in #Syria. Russian correspondents continue to disclose the names of the killer-pilots
    https://translate.google.com/transla...24m&edit-text= … pic.twitter.com/fRm7Ve56fV
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    BREAKING: France agrees to establish a secure zone in northern Syria. - #RFS https://twitter.com/RFS_mediaoffice/...43079655215104

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    Russian cruise missile strikes fired without advanced notice: #US - Reuters
    http://reut.rs/1ZgYrw9

    VIDEO: Footage of Russian/Syrian helicopters patrolling over al-Ghab plain in #Syria.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKtFf0_upq0

    VIDEO: Kafr Nabudah continues to be bombed by air today #Hama #Syria -
    https://youtu.be/T5uQL-k3-Dc
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