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    This picture perfectly sums up Putin's Syria strategy. Totally not flimsy/dependand on NATO countries' goodwill. pic.twitter.com/UzNg0ek0QF

    Alexander Yakovenko ✔ @Amb_Yakovenko
    Russia in contact with US on developments in Syria.Proposal to create an anti-IS coalition to be considered by UN SC pic.twitter.com/yoboWeM4PD

    Russia builds military base in Latakia on the border to NATO member Turkey http://ow.ly/RTn8O pic.twitter.com/XfQkIimA6M

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    Where are the revolutionary/progressive forces in Syria? Either:
    A) in prison
    B) in exile
    C) dead
    All thanks to Assad.

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    Syrian cargo aircraft Il-76T [YK-ATA] from Damascus to Tehran or Moscow this morning pic.twitter.com/ZimDYOGUPz

    Russian Ambassador to London doesn't see anything wrong in helping barrel-bomb civilians in #Syria ... https://twitter.com/Amb_Yakovenko/st...67600639197185

    Russia Answers U.S. Criticism Over Military Aid to Syria
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/08/wo...smtyp=cur&_r=0

    Russian military plane IL-62 arrived in Latakia from Moscow pic.twitter.com/kmAJi8WnL4
    BTW--this flight route does not require NATO approval

    So you think Russia's Syrian expedition will weaken capacity to invade Ukraine? Less than 0.01% of Russian Armed Forces committed to Syria.
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    Default "Green" (Russian) on "Blue" (Allies)?

    One potential aspect of increasing overt Russian support for the Assad regime, ostensibly to fight only ISIS, is the chance of "green" on "blue". The "green" being Russian combat forces, especially in the air, encountering Allied "blue" coalition aircraft and drones.

    The UK Conservative government indicated before the recent announcement of a UK drone strike on British ISIS members plotting attacks, that it was a nonsense that the RAF could attack ISIS targets in Iraq and not Syria.
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    Humor---

    There isn't a Syrian alive who'll say Assad does most of the killing with Russian weapons. They're all dead.

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    Rebels started a new operation in south seeking to capture Tal Qarin & Advance around it pic.twitter.com/3FWvgS1zmi

    Bulgaria refused to Russia with air corridors for humanitarian aid aircrafts for
    Syria
    https://twitter.com/tass_agency/stat...99982981328896

    Russian vessel ALEKSANDR TKACHENKO likely on the way to Syria. https://twitter.com/KerimBozkurt/sta...23695090860032
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    http://news.yahoo.com/rouhani-iran-r...084102993.html

    Notice--an interesting twist on Iranian weaponization of information---NOW when Assad is losing and Hezbollah can no longer defend him and Russian troops and heavy weapons is flowing in Syria--NOW Iran wants to talk---it is hard to envision that Assad proxy to Russia and Iran will be kicked out and a Sunni led government installed--especially if this means cutting the lines of communication to Hezbollah in Lebanon--that will never happen in our life times. Iran uses non linear warfare as does Russian in masking the simple fact their troops are fighting in Syria.


    Rouhani: Iran ready to hold talks on Syria with US, Saudi

    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's president said on Tuesday that his country is ready to hold talks with the United States and Saudi Arabia on ways to resolve Syria's civil war, providing such negotiations can secure peace and democracy in conflict-torn Syria.

    Hassan Rouhani's remarks came during a press conference with visiting Austrian counterpart Heinz Fischer, when the Iranian leader was asked if he would sit down and negotiate with the Saudis and Americans on the Syrian crisis.

    "Iran will sit at any table with regional countries and world powers if the outcome will be a safer, stable and democratic future for Syria," Rouhani said, adding this is part of Iran's commitment to "international, Islamic and humane" norms.

    Shiite powerhouse Iran is a leading patron of Syrian President Bashar Assad and accuses Sunni rival Saudi Arabia and the U.S. of siding with anti-Assad rebels and militants. Tehran has also sent military advisers to Damascus to help Assad's troops against the Islamic State group. Iran, however, denies sending combat forces to help Assad militarily.

    Rouhani also urged the international community to prioritize halting the bloodshed, rather than Syrian opposition demands, such as Assad's ouster. Western countries, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have repeatedly called for Assad to step down.

    "It is not a matter of supporting a specific individual or government," said Rouhani. "While people of Syria are being killed and displaced, is it really a priority to discuss opposition groups ... and changes in the (Syrian) constitution?"

    "Foreign countries and powers should not and cannot decide about the future of Syria but should help bring about security in Syria," he added.

    Following the landmark nuclear deal in July between Tehran and world powers, Iran is increasingly working to strengthen ties with Western countries.
    Now four years later Iran wants a safer, stable and democratic Syria--that was exactly what the opposition forces demanded four years ago and were killed for that demand. BUT notice no where did it say Assad had to go which the KSA FM openly stated in Moscow last month.
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    What was being seen on several of the Russian military transports ships were carrying---

    The Square X lashed casements toward the bow are modular expandable buildings.
    The Red Trucks are crash tenders for an Airstrip.


    BreakingNews Bulgaria has denied Russia use of its airspace for supply flights to Syria http://ara.tv/9p2sy

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    Senior Foreign Policy Adviser to #Khamenei said "only Assad can save #Syria."

    VIDEO: Russian army training in the port of the city of Tartus, Syria.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cSNbrLirYkQ … pic.twitter.com/oDxtL3mzgN

    Russia is currently sending large combat forces to Syria to support Assad, but not to fight ISIS -- they want the U.S. to do that.

    Putin is serious about entering Syria — and not to go after ISIS http://read.bi/1NnqupC via @BI_Defense

    Israel wary of Russian military build-up in Syria
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...698920,00.html

    The Bulgarian foreign ministry said: "We have enough information that makes us have serious doubts about the cargo of the planes"

    After yesterday's Antonov flights, Bulgaria now says it is denying Russian requests to use its airspace for supply flights to Syria


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    Humor about the new Russian flight plans to reach Syria after Bulgaria stop them------

    After Bulgaria closes airspace, #Russia's MoD comes up with a new shortcut for aid flights to #Syria pic.twitter.com/9kmCHIwIwc

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0R81Q820150908

    Tue Sep 8, 2015 10:05am EDT

    Syria denies Russian combat troops fighting alongside army

    AMMAN

    Syria's information minister denied on Tuesday reports of a Russian military buildup in his country, saying there were no Russian combat forces fighting alongside the army against mainly Islamist insurgents.

    Omran al-Zoubi said the reports were "concocted in Western intelligence circles" to show the army was too weak without help from its foreign ally, and as a pretext for further support for rebels from countries who want President Bashar al-Assad ousted.

    "There are no Russian forces and there is no Russian military action on Syrian territory neither by land, by sea or by air," Zoubi told Lebanese militant group Hezbollah's Manar television station.

    "All of this is to insinuate the Syrian state is weak and that the Syrian military has weakened to the point of resorting to the aid of friends in a direct manner".

    Russia, a traditional arms supplier to Damascus, has been a vital ally of Assad throughout the war that has fractured Syria into a patchwork of areas controlled by rival armed groups, including Islamic State, leaving the government in control of much of the west.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Monday Russia had always provided military supplies to Syria, saying Moscow "has never concealed that it delivers military equipment to official Syrian authorities with the aim of combating terrorism".

    The New York Times said Russia had sent a military advance team to Syria, citing American intelligence analysts.

    Several leading newspapers in the region, citing Syrian sources, have also reported growing numbers of Russian troops stationed at a new military base near the coastal stronghold of Assad's minority Alawite sect in Latakia.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told Lavrov on Saturday that if reports of the build-up were accurate, that could further escalate the war and risk confrontation with the U.S.-led alliance that is bombing Islamic State in Syria.

    Defense experts say military support for Assad from Tehran and Moscow has allowed the army to absorb advances by insurgents who, while better equipped than before, still remain mostly defenseless against government air strikes.

    Foreign states are already deeply involved in the war that has killed a quarter of a million people. While Russia and Iran have backed Assad, rebel groups seeking to oust him have received support from governments including the United States, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

    "This is one of the most difficult types of wars because many countries and intelligence quarters are intervening with open-ended funds and lots of foreign terrorists," Zoubi said.
    Seems we have another Ukrainian social media experience here--social media proves using Russian photos, videos and VK entries that in fact Russian troops are in Syria and have been fighting there as well.

    Ah... the power of open source analysis using social media.

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    'Russia to react to Bulgaria’s closure of airspace to Russian Syria-bound planes'
    http://tass.ru/en/russia/819636
    'unfriendly move'


    Rebels (#FSA brigade.6, Regiment 111 etc) now storming Markabah village near Lataminah, N #Hama province pic.twitter.com/VcNVubgyOo

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    Iraq's Sistani sent message to #Iran's Khamenei questioning Qassem Soleimani’s influence: report http://mme.cm/U49U00 via @NOW_eng

    Russia's leading propagandists are shifting their focus to #Syria - the next step in #Putin's unfolding plan. pic.twitter.com/otbGytHQ6Z

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    Russian weaponization of information warriors are saving money by flipping anti Ukrainian propaganda into Syrian propaganda-----

    Putin #Ukraine Propaganda "Queen" Maria Tsypko is now a #Syrian "LOCAL" https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Intl/sta...43203106033665 … pic.twitter.com/Efq8IY3h7J

    Ukraine Déjà vu? #Syria(n) LOCAL CITIZENS ask #Putin to send weapons (troops) to help them https://twitter.com/Sputnik_Intl/sta...43203106033665 … pic.twitter.com/Pqw8X0O4Lc
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    Russia Fumes at Bulgaria for Barring Syria-Bound Flights

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    Sep. 08 2015 21:17
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    Bulgaria's Foreign Ministry earlier said the country is refusing to allow Russian military transport aircraft to fly through its airspace en route to Syria from Sept. 1-24.

    Russia on Tuesday lashed out at Bulgaria over its refusal to allow Russian cargo planes bound for Syria to fly over its territory, saying the move has cast doubts on the nation's independence.

    The angry statement comes amid signs of a Russian military build-up in Syria that has raised U.S. concerns. Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov alleged that Bulgaria and Greece are facing pressure from Washington.

    Bulgaria's Foreign Ministry earlier said the country is refusing to allow Russian military transport aircraft to fly through its airspace en route to Syria from Sept. 1-24. It said without elaboration that the reason for the refusal was "incorrect information" about the purpose of the flights and the cargo.

    On Monday, Greek Foreign Ministry spokesman Constantinos Koutras said the U.S. has asked Greece to cancel overflight permission for flights headed to Syria. He said Athens is examining the request.

    "If they make some restrictive or banning measures at American request, that raises a question about their sovereign right to make decisions about foreign planes crossing its airspace," Bogdanov said, according to the Interfax news agency.

    U.S. defense officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the sensitive issue, said the U.S. has seen an increasing number of Russian transport planes seeking diplomatic approval for flights into Syria. They have also seen the movement of some prefabricated housing in Syria, although they haven't seen any troops moving in or becoming involved in actual combat activities, as some media reports suggested.

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry called his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov over the weekend to express concern, warning that if reports about the Russian military build-up in Syria were accurate, it could further escalate the conflict, increase refugee flows and raise the threat of confrontation with the U.S.-led coalition fighting the Islamic State group.

    Russia has staunchly backed Syrian President Bashar Assad throughout the nation's 4 1/2-year civil war, providing his regime with weapons and keeping military advisers in Syria.

    President Vladimir Putin said again Friday that Russia is providing the Syrian military with weapons and training. Asked if Russia could deploy its troops to Syria to help fight the IS, Putin answered coyly, saying "we are looking at various options."

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    Ditto in Iran. Iran Says Democracy Not a 'Priority' in Syria Now — Naharnet http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/189363

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    More military heavy equipment to Syria---

    RUS buoy tender KIL158 passing through Bosphorus w cargo on deck @YorukIsik @alperboler @SerhatGuvenc @KerimBozkurt pic.twitter.com/X4VrP275ET

    Syria : KIL158 in #Sevastopol (Sep 1st) being loaded with military equipment now heading for #Assad in #Latakia pic.twitter.com/b6TQEOwgiq

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    Some rumours there is pressure on Abadi to send Shia militias to Syria... http://fb.me/y2BsuC78

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    Remember the number of times I mentioned the term "weaponization of information". In any UW strategic strategy being used by Russia, Iran, IS and China--it is the key cornerstone to that strategy.

    Remember how I indicated we the US public do not clearly understand day to day events in Syria that has played out over the last four years AND how western mainstream media is responsible for that.

    WELL here is a perfect example actually more than perfect (it could be used in a classroom)of Russian "weaponization of information" twisted to depict Putin as this great forward thinking leader with massive foresight, depicting Assad as the global savior in the war on IS.

    WHAT is totally missing is the following;

    1. he fails to address the simple mathematical fact that IS has killed and or wounded seven times fewer Syrians than has Assad and his militaty

    2. the UN has released a study on the torture used by Assad against his own civil society that have out rivals anything Is has relased in their videos--there was recently even a photo display in the UN that shocked all--but no response out of the UNSC

    3. Assad has in fact lost 85% of his territory not only to IS but to the Kurds, and to moderate/radicalized Islamists

    4. Russia has delivered all the weapons that the Assad military has needed since the fighting began in 2011 over demands by the silent majority to participate in their own government since Assad is actually a minority dictator--Russia continues to provide aircraft and bombs

    5. the author fails to also address that Russia has repeatedly blocked any attempts by the UNSC to address Syria

    6. he fails to address that the Russian Foreign Minister Larvov under his breath but caught by audio accused the KSA FM of being a "blooming idiot" (mildly put in Russain) for publicly stating in Moscow that Assad is the problem not the solution

    7. he fails to mention that the barrel bomb concepts were passed to the Syrians by the IRGC/Iran and are being flown on Russian supplied aircraft

    8. he fails to mention that Hezbollah the Iranian proxy has been fighting along side Assad since 2011 and still is fighting along side of him so with Russian arms AND now troops flowing in is in fact Russia supporting the Iranian foreign policy in Syria????

    9. he fails to mention that Iran will never allow a break in the lines of communication between Tehran and Lebanon to occur--even yesterday the senior advisor to Khamenei declared there was no immediate need for democracy in Syria--the exact demands that started this mess in 2011

    10. he fails to mention that hundreds of Iraqi Shiite militia are fighting in Syria

    I could go on forever--BUT this is a masterpiece of "work with Putin", forget his invasion of eastern Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea and his total disrespect of international law --AS he is the soul and savior of Syria---just work with him and all will be fine.

    BUT again did he point out that far far far more Syrians have been driven out of Syria and or killed than ever killed or driven out by IS.

    NOT a single sentence---that is "weaponization of information".

    The Russian propaganda 6 Ds at work--distract, dismay, distort, deflect designed to create doubt and distrust.

    All of the Ds are in this article--BUT he is just a "normal Russian with his "normal" opinion BUT he is a Russian oligarch and the total owner of the Independent--that is a dangerous mix in the world of mass media.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-western-leade...

    Evgeny Lebedev

    Wednesday 9 September 2015

    An alliance of Western leaders, Muslim nations and Vladimir Putin is the only way to defeat Isis


    The group is the biggest threat to humanity that the world has faced in the 21st century.

    It took a picture. The image of little Aylan Kurdi dead on a beach in Bodrum, Turkey, appears at last to have woken the world from its slumber in relation to the horror of modern Syria. Iconic photography has changed the course of history before, most notably during the Vietnam War. Some good may yet emerge from the tragically brief life of a drowned three year-old, if it prompts not only a generous response to the biggest humanitarian catastrophe in Europe since the Second World War, but also – and in my view just as vital – a strong, ruthless international mission to deal with this problem at source. And that means defeating the savagery of so-called Islamic State.

    Even young Kurdi's name, containing as it does the name of a long persecuted minority, gives a clue as to the sectarian nature of this crisis. Today, right in front of our eyes, whole civilisations are being expunged, and we cannot save them if we deceive ourselves about the nature and identity of the enemy.

    I believe that a militant, radical, mutated form of Islam is the greatest threat to humanity the world has faced in the 21st century. It unites Central Africa with Eastern Asia, and has sympathisers and affiliates from Lahore to - shocking to me - Dewsbury in Yorkshire. But its locus is in the Middle East, and specifically the lawless terrain between what is left of Syria and Iraq. It is true that some of the refugees heading our way - your way - are fleeing Eritrea and Afghanistan. But all the evidence is clear: the majority are Syrian.

    I have spent some time in the Middle East, where any attentive visitor can immediately see the traces of truly great civilisations. I fear a generation growing up unaware that ancient Baghdad was home to the world's greatest scholars; that the lands of Persia and Mesopotamia were home to artistic flourishing; that people of different faiths lived and loved happily from Cairo to Constantinople. And at the heart of it all was the majesty and beauty of Syria.
    Continued.........
    Russian FM is disparately trying to change the subject/narrative from the invasion of the Ukraine, annexation of Crimea--to the Putin the great soul and savior of Syria--saving the from the murdering and rampaging IS WHICH flies in the face of reality in Assad's killing of far more Syrians than has than IS and being directly responsible for the 5M plus refugees with his barrel bombs, and chemical attacks using weapons delivered by Putin.

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Cooperation w/ USA in many areas, incl. fight against #IS is hampered by US political stance
    http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...#ixzz3lEZD9YIu … pic.twitter.com/8NObgXAY0K

    Putin is attempting to show the ME that it is he who wants to protect them NOT the US and he is trying hard to get back to business a usual and to get the sanctions dropped for his cooperation in Syria--BUT he fulfills not a single point in Minsk 2 in the Ukraine.

    Typical Russian Orwellian doublespeak at work.
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    REMEMBER--at first Putin, his Foreign Minister and the FM press released utterly denied any Russian troops in Syria and or fighting in Syria--THEN kicks in social media with tens of Russian troop photos, and a combat video.

    Just like they still are arguing there are no Russian troops in the Ukraine despite over 20 being actually captured and 10 returned to Russia.

    THEN this----

    Alexander Yakovenko ✔ @Amb_Yakovenko
    Russian military specialists are in Syria to help its army to handle new Russian-made military equipment
    pic.twitter.com/KkSjZ34omd

    VIDEO Russian soldiers on holiday in Syrian port of Tarsus 'teaching' how to use Russian equipment.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrda0rbwJk

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