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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian mercenary war crimes again--using civilians human shields to protect their bases.

    Breaking: @Aero_Dnipro1 uses drone footage and Google Streetvieew to expose terrorist base behind apartment block.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mas5p8OAULs
    DNR militia is hiding tanks amid residential area, only 5 km from front line - VIDEO
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mas5p8OAULs … pic.twitter.com/NnV4594304

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    Donetsk, #Spartak, #Avdeevka - Shelling continues, again GRAD MLRS used

    AND all those responses from western leaders who threatened more sanctions if things got worse and Russia did not implement Minsk 2.

    WELL they are worse AND yet still no responses from Obama, Nuland, Kerry, Hollande and Merkel--why is that???

    Simple--words to do not require any actions on their parts but sound nice for the 24 hour news cycle.

    GRAD MLRS shellings are in full violation of Minsk 2 and yet not a single comment come from DC, Paris or Berlin.

    They appear to be tone deaf to artillery and rocket shellings and blind to the killing of soldiers/civilians and the destruction of infrastructure.

    That a war is ongoing in Central Europe in the 21st century is a testament to the failure of US/NATO/EU politicians.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-21-2015 at 11:11 AM.

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    What was that OSCE SMM mission in the Ukraine to be...????

    They are definitely having some serious issues in trying to be "neutral" as is required.

    An supposedly “withdrawn” T72B1 ---OSCE did not even recognize that it was from the Russian Army as the Ukraine does not have this model in their entire tank inventory.

    From this angle we observe clearly- faded Russian army tactical marking & RF rail transport markings on this T72 tank pic.twitter.com/BI73AY2tTH

    Here the @OSCE_SMM rep is stood behind the #Russia|n T72 tank taking close-up photos
    Still did not recognize it as a Russian Army issued tank

    pic.twitter.com/mQBn0m4j3p

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    DNR militia is hiding tanks amid residential area, only 5 km from front line - VIDEO
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mas5p8OAULs … pic.twitter.com/NnV4594304
    More Russian mercenary war crimes--firing on unprotected civilians in built up areas.

    Donetsk. Russians shelling UA positions, turn around and fire at city48.038236, 37.749115
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooDsPYTpKs8 … pic.twitter.com/sMwNnc93AH

    LUGANSK_TODAY touchdown at Kuibysheva St, 169 - 48.027874, 37.752952. Luckily it didn't explode. pic.twitter.com/adtPfkKBVU

    IMPORTANT could be evidence of self shelling angle low. https://twitter.com/sterion75/status/623458762284777472

    Flight of a projectile caught on vid in Donetsk https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...55682117959680

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    In the last day Mariinka checkpoint twice came under sniper fire. 12 drones recorded in the ATO zone - Border guards
    http://dpsu.gov.ua/ua/about/news/news_7939.htm

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    Russian forces fired the artillery "it withdrew from #Horlivka on Sunday" from the city at #Mayorsk this morning, injuring 2 women.


    Nolan Peterson (@nolanwpeterson) talking about his experience on the frontline at the America House in Kyiv. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI07...ature=youtu.be

    Russian Self-Propelled Howitzer 'Msta-S' from Ural at the Border of Ukraine: https://en.informnapalm.org/russian-...er-of-ukraine/ … pic.twitter.com/6uMgeWvC3o

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    Russian mercenary for DNR sells Russian/Ukrainian humanitarian aid in his “own store:--full-scale corruption never ends on the Russian side even in war.

    Zakharchenko's market selling Russia's "aid" exclusively. RU's salt and UA's sugar on pics.
    @DN__UA @Donetsk_Ukraine pic.twitter.com/12veBMPTS0

    YET the Russian FM is "complaining of a humanitarian crisis"--maybe he needs to speak to Zakharchenko personnaly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Donetsk, #Spartak, #Avdeevka - Shelling continues, again GRAD MLRS used

    AND all those responses from western leaders who threatened more sanctions if things got worse and Russia did not implement Minsk 2.

    WELL they are worse AND yet still no responses from Obama, Nuland, Kerry, Hollande and Merkel--why is that???

    Simple--words to do not require any actions on their parts but sound nice for the 24 hour news cycle.

    GRAD MLRS shellings are in full violation of Minsk 2 and yet not a single comment come from DC, Paris or Berlin.

    They appear to be tone deaf to artillery and rocket shellings and blind to the killing of soldiers/civilians and the destruction of infrastructure.

    That a war is ongoing in Central Europe in the 21st century is a testament to the failure of US/NATO/EU politicians.
    ATO Staff Chief: Russia-backed militants fired 320 times at Ukrainian military positions over the last four days

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    Reference ongoing Facebook vs Russia saga-------

    The Kremlin's Favorite Pundit Is Waging War on Facebook https://globalvoicesonline.org/2015/...r-on-facebook/Dmitry Kiselyov gets no love. pic.twitter.com/BBLnz2jQTL

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    From the world of truly altered states of reality--Russia has six different times with five different stories attempted to blame the Ukraine for the shot down of MH17----

    Russia's draft UN resolution on #MH17 : Russia officials and media did not ever blame an Ukraine missile in downing.
    http://top.rbc.ru/politics/21/07/201...7947fc6b111c36

    On today's Daily Vertical @PowerVertical looks at why the honeymoon is over in Crimea http://www.rferl.org/content/daily-v.../27140723.html

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    Reference the recent Georgian/Russian illegal border expansion incident.

    BREAKING: U.S. Congress will soon start deliberating on supplying weapons to Georgia – Former U.S. Ambassador
    http://www.interpressnews.ge/en/poli...mbassador.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if Obama and his NSC seriously understand what it means when an entire civil society stands up and declares we are tired of corruption, oligarchs and Russia and want our own civil society based on the rule of law, good governance and transparency and we want to define our future--- not have another country define it for us.

    Especially when this civil society has supported the Maidan and it's loses, has massively supported their Army and held one of the fairest elections in years of Ukrainian history. The Ukrainian Army is fighting so well now they have virtually stopped the Russian Army AND many to include Obama have repeatedly stated there is no military solution --but the UA needs ATMs--recently their fired 12 times using RPGs and AGLs to kill one tank.

    Yet the UA has boxed in the Russian Army and her mercenaries into a 200 mile front and it has not grown much since Feb 2015--SO in effect there has been a military solution so they seem to be doing something right while growing the force from 6K in August 2014 to over 65K in 2015.

    I know of no other country in the last 100 years that has passed major reforms in the middle of a war, has recreated and rebuild their Army all the while in continuous fighting now for over a year and who have been invaded by 700 tanks, 27K Russian mercenaries and 12K Russian troops and whose army gets shelled with 150 tons of munitions almost daily now and they are still very much in the fight.

    Former U.S. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle calls on Pres. Obama to visit Ukraine http://politi.co/1JduoyP pic.twitter.com/A0kXqwO50D

    He will never do this as it would require him to have the courage to directly confront Putin and this President is not about confrontation—BUT on the other hand neither has his concept of “soft power and talking” worked with Putin.

    Faces of people that maintain peace of our country on their shoulders: .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otx8...ature=youtu.be … pic.twitter.com/1h1OKv814z
    Between 1 Sept 2014 and 1 Jun 2015----
    OSCE counted more than 20.000 people in Russian military uniform, who crossed the border betw RU and #Ukraine in the Donbass http://novosti.dn.ua/details/255599/

    The OSCE has declared Russian actions in the Ukraine to be aggression.

    PACE has declared Russian actions in the Ukraine to be aggression.

    Russia is a member of both the OSCE and PACE.

    There are over 700 tanks, and over 1000 IFVs and literally hundreds of artillery pieces and SPGs and MRLSs from Russia in the Ukraine.

    Obama during the Ukraine PM visit openly stated the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Ukraine must be protected.

    THEN we naturally have the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.

    Look's like to me Obama can easily visit the Ukraine if he wanted to---the core question is --has he in fact --thrown the Ukraine under the bus--by not going the answer is YES even if he says nothing.

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    OCSE fails again--not sure exactly what they are good for outside of earning extra salaries via TDY.

    Right after the intense shellings of Donetsk city they released their report stating the UA had started the shellings not the mercnearies and that the mercenaries were just retunrning fire.

    Naturally jumped on by both Russian FM and her mercenaries as the "truth" and used as part of their propaganda about the shellings an killing of civilians.

    Social media open source analysis had within minutes of the first volley of mortars that hit the center called it a "false flag" operation as at that point in the shellings absolutely no UA mortar was anywhere close to being able to reach that area.

    THEN social media has now gone back and virtually proven it was a Russian led "false flag shelling attack" attempting to blame the UA.

    SILENCE on the part of the OSCE to the reports--BTW the OSCE never did any crater analysis, video analysis and or went to the impact sites to determine if artillery and or mortar impacts--AND in the meantime the mercenaries had filled all the impacts on the roads.

    Analysis #Map
    Direct trajectory.
    #Confirm., Russian forces are shelling #Donetsk themselves.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooDsPYTpKs8 … pic.twitter.com/itmmvzSvTi

    Analysis:
    Angle of incoming fire on the residential block in #Donetsk
    https://youtu.be/ooDsPYTpKs8?t=1m36s
    @666_mancer @sterion75 pic.twitter.com/xQK7INMfJw

    UPDATE: 169B Kuibyshev tank shell hits in direct fire mode. Evidence of self shelling https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...66130393448448

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    OSCE confirms over 20K Russian uniformed personnel crossed back and forth into the Donbass from Russia in the period 1 Sept 2014 to 1 Jun 2015 AND the Russian FM and her mercenaries are now whinning...come on.....it is not as if the UA is actually invading the DNR--Mariupol is Ukrainian held not mercenary held and is not part of the Minsk 2 agreement in any form.

    3,2,1 Lavrov/Zacharchenko/who else: "Ukrainian push of weapons to Mariupol is hostile act against DNR!" https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/623466878074265600

    Poroshenko: 3 Naval Infantry Battalions will go to Mariupol (with Humvees) https://twitter.com/rbc_ukraine/stat...69105983660032

    All the while Russian claims to have no troops whatsoever in the Ukraine??????

    Where did all those 20K come from if not from Russia???

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    One would expect this type of analysis from the OSCE for the money they are making.

    Russia's army shelled #Donetsk residents from positions nr airport
    https://youtu.be/ooDsPYTpKs8?t=1m36s
    @666_mancer @EuromaidanPR pic.twitter.com/bI6dDyh6H4

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    Ah...finally someone in the US “awakens to the Russian Bosnian model for the Ukraine”.

    Core question –has Obama thrown the Ukraine under the bus with the Nuland driven unilateral appeasement with no reciprocal requirement on the part of Russia with the “special status” change to the Ukrainian Constitution SHOULD be the question the NYTs asks.

    Next question should be—is via this unilateral appeasement Obama “attempting to save Putin’s face” in exchange of the Iranian deal????

    RUplan:dnr/lnr are autonomous but retain seats in UA Rada,allowing them to derail UA aspirations for @NATO or #EU http://nyti.ms/1976hTP

    Independent: #Putin 'obsessed with the idea of testing NATO', says Odesa governor Saakashvili http://uatoday.tv/news/independent-p...or-459838.html

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    OSCE: Russian GRU brings own people to Ukraine for 'certain tasks'

    http://www.unian.info/war/1103333-os...ain-tasks.html … pic.twitter.com/Kil9iOHqcD

    Just what the heck is OSCE stating....???????? AND Russia still states there are no Russian troops in the eastern Ukraine--since when is the GRU not part of the Russian military???

    http://www.unian.info/war/1103333-os...ain-tasks.html

    OSCE: Russian GRU brings own people to Ukraine for 'certain tasks'

    21.07.2015 | 19:55

    Deputy Chief Monitor of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine Alexander Hug claims he has met in person with representatives of Russia's Main Intelligence Directorate, or GRU, who have arrived in Donbas to perform "certain tasks," according to Ukrainian news service tsn.ua.


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    We have recently reported about the Vostok Battalion, which has crossed the Ukrainian-Russian border. We have reported about the location of a large arsenal of weapons in territory that is not controlled by the government. I have spoken in person with two members of the Russian GRU service, who have confirmed that they arrived in Ukraine from Russia," he told tsn.ua in an exclusive interview.

    According to him, the GRU service confirmed they had brought "their own" people to perform "certain tasks."

    Does Hug fully realize that the Russian Spetsnaz have currently two Brigades in the Ukraine and are constantly leading ground attacks and Spetsnaz does in fact work directly for the GRU????

    MAYBE those they brought in for "special tasks" are in fact Spetsnaz.

    Hate to say this but just how stupid can OSCE be.

    Vostok BN is headed by the former Ukrainian SBU Alpha unit commander and is a major mercenary fighting unit--he is acting as if this is new information but in fact social media has been tracking Vostok from the very beginning--this commander actually just after the shot down of MH17 openly condemned the mercenaries for their shot down and then back tracked when he saw which way the wind was blowing out of Moscow.
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    This hybrid warfare thing is getting out of control on the Russian side. Here comes the blame benig placed on the Ukrainians and the CIA.

    BREAKING: Reports that Azerbaijan has been intensively shelling Karabakh positions since 2pm local time

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Latest data from Donetsk Ukraine shows Russia's proxies have stolen/destroyed billions of dollars worth of industry

    http://pravda.dn.ua/details/255497/
    Ukraine demands $350 billion compensation from Russia for destroyed Donets Basin https://lnkd.in/e_wtseh

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    There is another one !!
    What kind of newly brought in T-64 / T-72 mix is this ?!?! pic.twitter.com/FQEmgeyVwR
    It is T-64A-visible stereoscopic rangefinder,small wheel and track T-64.
    Very weird DIY variant of ERA Kontakt-1.

    Lacking basic Equipment-IR Illum for gunner,heavy machine gun NSVT(standard since 1973) and grenade launchers(standard since 1979).
    Sideskirt is not original,but provisionally fixed from T-64BV.
    Reserve stock east of the Ural moutain???



    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Footage
    The Russian Army "withdraws" (in your dream!) a T-72BM tank & BMP-1 from #Horlivka
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5q9AyxiMk … pic.twitter.com/s0RqJYVyEG
    Sky blue beret and blue striped T-shirt.
    Russian paratroopers,replaced BMD-1(expensive and very thin armor) for low profile BMP-1.
    T-72BM VDV was promised reinforced with tank units.
    http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150506/1021765727.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    OSCE: Russian GRU brings own people to Ukraine for 'certain tasks'

    http://www.unian.info/war/1103333-os...ain-tasks.html … pic.twitter.com/Kil9iOHqcD

    Just what the heck is OSCE stating....???????? AND Russia still states there are no Russian troops in the eastern Ukraine--since when is the GRU not part of the Russian military???

    http://www.unian.info/war/1103333-os...ain-tasks.html

    OSCE: Russian GRU brings own people to Ukraine for 'certain tasks'

    21.07.2015 | 19:55

    Deputy Chief Monitor of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine Alexander Hug claims he has met in person with representatives of Russia's Main Intelligence Directorate, or GRU, who have arrived in Donbas to perform "certain tasks," according to Ukrainian news service tsn.ua.


    Does Hug fully realize that the Russian Spetsnaz have currently two Brigades in the Ukraine and are constantly leading ground attacks and Spetsnaz does in fact work directly for the GRU????

    MAYBE those they brought in for "special tasks" are in fact Spetsnaz.

    Hate to say this but just how stupid can OSCE be.

    Vostok BN is headed by the former Ukrainian SBU Alpha unit commander and is a major mercenary fighting unit--he is acting as if this is new information but in fact social media has been tracking Vostok from the very beginning--this commander actually just after the shot down of MH17 openly condemned the mercenaries for their shot down and then back tracked when he saw which way the wind was blowing out of Moscow.
    Another utter failure by OSCE--in their report about this so called "withdrawal" they did not mention that particular Russian tank model.

    Picture
    An @OSCE_SMM SMM member takes a picture of another "withdrawing" #RussianArmy T-72BM.

    pic.twitter.com/X3PPqLr9mi

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