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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More commenting on this topic----

    youtube.com/watch?v=9GmN7HHo2VY … Surprise! #Donetsk's #Russia-picked #Zakharchenko cornered by war-ravaged locals. pic.twitter.com/cxNZ5irXTB
    Looks like Donetsk's already famous "anti-war" rally also featured people calling to push back Ukrainian troops.

    Anti-war rally in #Donetsk (unclear who organized)
    Zakharchenko: What's your name?
    Lady: No way! So that I get shot?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkDW...ature=youtu.be
    Telling comment by a so called ethnic Russian Ukrainian----interesting he openly calls the DNR forces cowards for hiding behind civilians

    Man says there is no #Minsk, never was; & DPR should go & fight in the fields w/ #Ukraine forces, not at their homeshttps://youtu.be/FPZ9XkHzCQs?t=10s

    Human shields: essentially the man is saying DPR not to use residential areas as cover to fire from, at #Ukraine troops, who fire back.

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    Ukrainian authorities say 10 soldiers have been killed & 20 wounded in the past 24 hours. equals Escalation

    S.Koshkina, Ed @lb_ua: #Crimea annexation & #Odessa 2 May were thoroughly planned by #Russia pic.twitter.com/HzaHWI6eQ5

    Azov:
    There is some good painters out there in the big world, thats for sure. pic.twitter.com/DDHjY7hdAp

    Russia AND NATO Both Up The Ante, Both Discuss Moving Arms Into Eastern Europe http://bit.ly/1C90u7I pic.twitter.com/nYQ8RyY7jD

    .@OSCE_SMM drone spotted 60 tanks, 6 howitzers, 23 APCs in separatist territory E and S of Donetsk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...itzers-23-apcs

    #Russia(n) websites reporting #Putin terrorist "Givi" died from wounds http://myrussianews.ru/politika/smi-...givi-ymer.html … pic.twitter.com/sLfIboaQlr
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    Russia threatens the US if it stations weapons near the Russian borders BUT then it somehow forgot it signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act…………………..

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

    #Russia agreed with #NATO PREPOSITIONING in 1997. Check out NATO-Russia Founding Act part IV http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/jqeu8eVhIp

    Part IV Continued…………

    NATO reiterates that in the current and foreseeable security environment, the Alliance will carry out its collective defence and other missions by ensuring the necessary interoperability, integration, and capability for reinforcement rather than by additional permanent stationing of substantial combat forces. Accordingly, it will have to rely on adequate infrastructure commensurate with the above tasks. In this context, reinforcement may take place, when necessary, in the event of defence against a threat of aggression and missions in support of peace consistent with the United Nations Charter and the OSCE governing principles, as well as for exercises consistent with the adapted CFE Treaty, the provisions of the Vienna Document 1994 and mutually agreed transparency measures. Russia will exercise similar restraint in its conventional force deployments in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia threatens the US if it stations weapons near the Russian borders BUT then it somehow forgot it signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act…………………..

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

    #Russia agreed with #NATO PREPOSITIONING in 1997. Check out NATO-Russia Founding Act part IV http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/jqeu8eVhIp
    US affirmed Budapest Memo + no NATO for Ukraine in 2009. Nothing scary for Russia til Euromaidan booted Putin puppet https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/610507600124317697

    #Russia says will retaliate if U.S. weapons stationed on its borders
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0OV17A20150615

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    @LUGANSK_TODAY
    BREAKING
    #Russian neo-nazi identified as paratrooper who took part in #Crimea annexation. READ http://lugansk-news.com/russian-neo-...ea-annexation/ … pic.twitter.com/Y0wvaOT5Rf

    @LUGANSK_TODAY another soldier from the same unit identified. Read details at http://lugansk-news.com/putin-ghost-...ers-of-crimea/ … pic.twitter.com/gT0Yd4esyS

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    Shellings and ground attacks are on again this evening---STILL no response from Obama, Hollande and Merkel

    Kirovsk constant explosions can be heard

    20:48 #Kirovsk @AngelMorbit Sounds of very massive volleys or explosions

    19:41 #Mariupol @priazovsky Rumble fr/#Shyrokyne

    19:38 #Horlivka @waringorlovka Quiet

    20:55 #Horlivka Kalinovka @HU_belochka Quiet

    20:35 #Horlivka @xy_gorlov4an "They warm up"

    19:35 #Mariupol @sir_T_Lawrence RUS woke up - distant cannonade

    #Shyrokyne this evening, view fr/RUS side @666_mancer pic.twitter.com/anpNBsaUf3

    20:20 #Horlivka @eco127127 Shooting or it just seemed?

    20:23 RUS src: AGL grenades are landed in the west,Gagarina&19-20 mine

    Shyrokyne: 5 wounded via @1inoplanet9nin1

    Shyrokyno, tonight https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...04533307957248

    Donetsk-Makeevka connecting road: tracked vehicles roar @OSCE_SMM https://twitter.com/TombstoneDjack/s...02185412128768

    Avdeevka, complete silence, easy to explain - DPR asked for silence till 17:00 https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/610463327572099073

    Right Sector reported 1 KIA today at #Shyrokyno

    De facto, #Russia's regular army engages #Ukraine directly (special ops). So proxies or collaborators? pic.twitter.com/7hwYRSS06D

    #News
    From midnight to 6 pm, Russian forces conducted 33 attacks vs. the Ukrainian line of defense. 27 in #Donetsk and 6 in #Luhansk region.

    21:26 #Horlivka @tgorlovka In Komsomolets one can hear mortar rounds and small arms shots

    Shyrokine: ruscists are attacking UA positions RIGHT NOW @OSCE_SMM

    3 #Ukraine soldiers killed, 2 wounded by #Russia|n forces in #Marinka today.

    In all their Glory
    #DNR, #LNR, #novorossiya #russia
    Their "fallen heroes" pic.twitter.com/zbNQaZYa4c
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Shellings and ground attacks are on again this evening---STILL no response from Obama, Hollande and Merkel

    Kirovsk constant explosions can be heard

    20:48 #Kirovsk @AngelMorbit Sounds of very massive volleys or explosions

    19:41 #Mariupol @priazovsky Rumble fr/#Shyrokyne

    19:38 #Horlivka @waringorlovka Quiet

    20:55 #Horlivka Kalinovka @HU_belochka Quiet

    20:35 #Horlivka @xy_gorlov4an "They warm up"

    19:35 #Mariupol @sir_T_Lawrence RUS woke up - distant cannonade

    #Shyrokyne this evening, view fr/RUS side @666_mancer pic.twitter.com/anpNBsaUf3

    20:20 #Horlivka @eco127127 Shooting or it just seemed?

    20:23 RUS src: AGL grenades are landed in the west,Gagarina&19-20 mine

    Shyrokyne: 5 wounded via @1inoplanet9nin1

    Shyrokyno, tonight https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...04533307957248

    Donetsk-Makeevka connecting road: tracked vehicles roar @OSCE_SMM https://twitter.com/TombstoneDjack/s...02185412128768

    Avdeevka, complete silence, easy to explain - DPR asked for silence till 17:00 https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/610463327572099073

    Right Sector reported 1 KIA today at #Shyrokyno

    De facto, #Russia's regular army engages #Ukraine directly (special ops). So proxies or collaborators? pic.twitter.com/7hwYRSS06D

    #News
    From midnight to 6 pm, Russian forces conducted 33 attacks vs. the Ukrainian line of defense. 27 in #Donetsk and 6 in #Luhansk region.

    21:26 #Horlivka @tgorlovka In Komsomolets one can hear mortar rounds and small arms shots

    Shyrokine: ruscists are attacking UA positions RIGHT NOW @OSCE_SMM
    Has not be verified---
    Heavy fighting in #Shyrokyne this evening. Many #Ukraine fighters wounded.
    pic.twitter.com/R1PBnJQ8GG

    #Horlivka 21:45
    Lenina mine settlement - a lot of ruscist military equipment on move.
    Towards Stroitel. https://twitter.com/NeonDok/status/610521420389580800

    9:01PM
    A few tanks from #Makeevka towards #Khartsyzsk https://twitter.com/pandenik/status/610507502594166785

    Khartsyzk 21:30
    Judging by the sound the tanks went towards #Zuhres, #Shakhtarsk https://twitter.com/natroso/status/610517160415358976

    Luhansk 10:06PM
    Towards #Stanitsya_Luhanska rumble again, you can hear it from east https://twitter.com/vzglyd2/status/610523696965533696
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia threatens the US if it stations weapons near the Russian borders BUT then it somehow forgot it signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act…………………..

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

    #Russia agreed with #NATO PREPOSITIONING in 1997. Check out NATO-Russia Founding Act part IV http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/jqeu8eVhIp
    NATO plans to store equip for 150 men per Baltic country. Russia: "No choice, must deploy Iskanders in Kaliningrad" http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...source=twitter

    Jorge Benitez: Putin wants to intimidate "the US & Western Europeans to respect Russia's sphere of influence" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    .@NATOSource director Jorge Benitez: Putin "relies on threats & coercion because he believes they work" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Benitez: "The more Putin uses military units to try to bully the West, the more he galvanizes Western opposition" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Spiral theorists, get your popcorn. Russia will deploy reinforcements to the border, if NATO adds tanks to the Balts https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/15...eastern-europe

    Russia tells U.S. that Baltic 'aggression' will get 'land, sea and air response' #Kaliningrad. http://ln.is/tumblr.com/J1Owa

    Russia blackmails EU by Iskanders in Kaliningrad and “changes in force grouping” in Belarus - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/

    Belarus and China hold joint exercise Dashing Eagle 2015 at Brestsky 15-27 June near EU borders - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155576/

    @Guderian_Xaba According to Kremlin logic, YES. NATO is to equip an entire company in each Baltic state --> Iskanders necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NATO plans to store equip for 150 men per Baltic country. Russia: "No choice, must deploy Iskanders in Kaliningrad" http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...source=twitter

    Jorge Benitez: Putin wants to intimidate "the US & Western Europeans to respect Russia's sphere of influence" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    .@NATOSource director Jorge Benitez: Putin "relies on threats & coercion because he believes they work" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Benitez: "The more Putin uses military units to try to bully the West, the more he galvanizes Western opposition" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Spiral theorists, get your popcorn. Russia will deploy reinforcements to the border, if NATO adds tanks to the Balts https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/15...eastern-europe

    Russia tells U.S. that Baltic 'aggression' will get 'land, sea and air response' #Kaliningrad. http://ln.is/tumblr.com/J1Owa

    Russia blackmails EU by Iskanders in Kaliningrad and “changes in force grouping” in Belarus - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/

    Belarus and China hold joint exercise Dashing Eagle 2015 at Brestsky 15-27 June near EU borders - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155576/

    @Guderian_Xaba According to Kremlin logic, YES. NATO is to equip an entire company in each Baltic state --> Iskanders necessary.
    https://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.c...es-to-fortune/

    US prepositioning in the Baltics: heavy metal politics and hostages to fortune

    by Mark Galeotti

    There is much about the present Russo-Western confrontation that is symbolic, even when it comes to the tanks rumbling around the Baltic plans or the Russian aircraft screaming past and sometimes into NATO airspace. Essentially, it is a combination of the macho posture of alpha male animals, trying to overawe their rival by any means short of the murderous, and the stately diplomatic dance of hint, demarche and denunciation, in heavy metal form.

    Consider, for example, the likely deployment of heavy equipment in the Baltic states, a pre-deployment of enough kit for a full brigade. More than anything else, this is a piece of theatre intended to reassure the Balts that they would not be left high and dry if the big, bad Russians ever invaded, and warn Moscow that Washington is indeed serious about its obligations to its NATO allies.

    In military terms, after all, it is harder to see this as serious. Why? All this hardware is pretty pointless without (a) the 5,000 or soldiers to go with it and (b) without the time to take the tanks and other pieces of kit out of storage and get them ready for action -- even at the most basic level, they need fuel, ammunition and other consumables. Presumably if -- and I don't believe this would ever happen -- the Russians ever were to invade the Baltic states, they would do so through a surprise blitzkrieg, as one of their massive military "exercises" on the borders suddenly reveals itself to be an intervention force. I can't see Moscow feeling the need to give NATO fair warning and notice!

    The sad truth is that the Baltic states are pretty much impossible to defend in purely military terms. The borders are open, the terrain is pretty flat, the settlements small. That in no way minimizes the determination of the Balts, and the Russians would have to expect subsequent bitter guerrilla warfare as patriots fight back from the woods or in the cities, but Moscow's ability to take the region in the first instant is hard to question.

    The corollary? It is that, in purely military terms, Washington is prepositioning a cache of modern weapons for the Russians to capture.

    Of course, the point is that this is not what anyone expects to happen: if -- again, let's stress that if -- Russia chose to step up its aggression against the Baltic states, it is almost certain to be through indirect, covert or deniable means, not a storm of armour and airpower. The calculation in Washington is that at least by pretending to make a serious military commitment to the Baltic states (and one which makes it certain and obvious that any Russian offensive will bring it into face-to-face contact with US soldiers), it deters Moscow from any such moves. And so we have another demonstration of the many ways in which if not war but military force can be the instrument for politics by other means.
    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Moscow warns #US not to store military hardware near #Russian border - http://bit.ly/1MX9xiw @RusEmbUSA
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    Shyrokyno
    Ongoing battle, we have 1 KIA, 5 WIA.

    #Mariupol https://twitter.com/sviritat/status/610525473462947841

    #Mariupol 22:05
    3 ambulances just rushed towards #Shyrokyno https://twitter.com/PozyvnoiMol/stat...27553078607872

    A lot of military equipment of militants on Lenin Avenue in Horlivka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...tants-on-lenin

    #Berezove checkpoint on #Donetsk-#Mariupol road closed, because of heavy ruscist shelling. https://twitter.com/Darren_Aro/statu...29073840955395

    21:45 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA 7 Ural trucks, 1 BTR, 1 minibus, 1 jeep fr/#Donetsk direction eastwards

    20:40 #Kirovsk @AngelMorbit Distant volleys
    @thisnameerror Fr/checkpoint in #Irmino,today also Grad fired fr/there at 25th cp

    This pro-Russian terrorist brags that she has killed 24 Ukrainian soldiers in battle & 2 POWs. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ter_mailonline … pic.twitter.com/tGHLXvSdgF

    21:30 #Alchevsk @GirkinGirkin Active troops movement at checkpoint in Volgogradska St

    22:46 #Stakhanov @yellowbtr A covered Grad cruises around #Stakhanov

    19:59 #Alchevsk @protiv_voiny Along Kirova St "8-10 tankettes" sped tow/#Perevalsk

    Alchevsk @GirkinGirkin "20:00 UPD: there were 12 brand-new BMPs" https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/610537295675027457

    21:56 #Horlivka @_John__Carter_ West. Closer and closer

    21:55 #Horlivka 245th block @NeonDok Many mil vehicles are going along Lenina Ave
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    #Analysis #Map
    Artillery fire clearly coming from the north.
    Thanks to @Tim__Lock for geolocating it
    . pic.twitter.com/tWOHgyxMCs

    QUIZ! Go to NATO -Russia Founding Act.Find a sentence #Russia HAS NOT violated. CLAIM A PRIZE! http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/zvkf4jUtzn

    #Footage
    Pro-invasion TV claims, #Ukraine uses phosphorus shells vs them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYkIdvjrv0
    pic.twitter.com/TzRKxyQe7A

    23:46 #Luhansk @LuhanskJunta Again one can hear RUS cannons, not fr/Zmiyina_Hora[near Stanytsia] as usually, further.Too dull

    23:40 #Donetsk @donetskye Single 122mm shot fr/Azotny area

    #Shyrokyno - Ukr soldier shooting with AGL on russian positions https://youtu.be/4OYLTFwr7o4

    #Shyrokyne battle footage - the chechens from Sheikh Mansour battalion firing at russians https://youtu.be/ZwkKLdespso

    By refusing to honor ECHR verdict in YUKOS case, Russia is consciously seeking to be kicked out of Council of Europe http://top.rbc.ru/politics/15/06/201...794723d5e1b78f
    Seems as if Russia is trying to save themselves 50B USDs as that is the penalty that had to pay in the YUKOS case.

    23:20 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA 5 BMP fr/#Donetsk eastwards

    11:07PM
    At #Stanitsya_Luhanska serious battle https://twitter.com/xyevii_kharkov/s...39212572618752

    Shakhtarsk 23:10
    5x BMP from #Donetsk towards east. https://twitter.com/Helgi__UA/status/610542470015885313

    11:07PM
    Through #Horlivka center in direction of #Dzerzhynsk passed armor, artillery, but they are silent until now. https://twitter.com/nativesss1/statu...39025745747968

    #Russia|n troops attack #Stanytsia #Luhanska after shelling of #Ukraine Army positions

    Lithuanian_MoD @Lithuanian_MoD
    Russia has been long concentrating its modern military equipment near the borders of the #BalticStates. Nothing new is in the RU claims

    #Russia's F/Min warns US plan 2 site heavy weaponry close 2 its borders cld lead 2 "new military stand-off with poss dangerous consequences"

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Telling comment by a so called ethnic Russian Ukrainian----interesting he openly calls the DNR forces cowards for hiding behind civilians

    Man says there is no #Minsk, never was; & DPR should go & fight in the fields w/ #Ukraine forces, not at their homeshttps://youtu.be/FPZ9XkHzCQs?t=10s

    Human shields: essentially the man is saying DPR not to use residential areas as cover to fire from, at #Ukraine troops, who fire back.

    #Donetsk rally 2day was arranged by Natalia Vitrenko's Socialist party,whose members are now "DPR MPs".Curves of fate pic.twitter.com/sFcAwGkQFI

    Another Kremlin Propagandist who tweets exactly the opposite why people protested pic.twitter.com/yn1Gan1GVe

    youtube.com/watch?v=q1Afj_hZaqo … Woman:'We need peace!' #Zakharchenko: 'You want #Ukraine to put you in a concentration camp?' pic.twitter.com/G3oHvzaG34
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