Ukraine: Russo-Ukr War (June-December 2015)

[OUTLAW 09]

Putin is attempting to force the Ukrainians to deal directly with the Russian mercenaries which would then give them the "appearance of being legitimate" and then in the so call federalization that Putin envisions they would have seat in the RADA and being able to block anything that appears like the Ukraine is trying to do with NATO and or the EU--this is Putin's "Bosnian solution".

The NYTs recently wrote an article on the so called "Putin Bosnian model" for the Donbass regions.

Notice Russia in is press release says absolutely nothing on what they and her mercenaries should be doing to implement fully Minsk 2--not a single word is wasted--it is all about WHAT the Ukraine needs to do.

Currently the discussion on the 30km buffer zone was also originally proposed by the Russian General in the Russian JCCC--again a Russian solution--it was proposed during the extremely heavy fighting near Mariupol as the Russians attempted to break through to Mariupol and when civilians were still in the town--none are there now.

Secondly the supposedly "good faith pull back" is not so "good faith" as they only pulled back a total of 1.5km and still shell Ukrainian positions daily.

NOTICE Putin is demanding a "pull back" much in the same tone he demanded when actual Russian troops were attacking Debaltseve.

Troubling is when Holland Merkel and actually Obama are putting extreme pressure on the Ukraine to concede point after point to Putin unilaterally WITHOUT a single reciprocal move by Russian and or her mercenaries.

There was to be a teleconference on Monday night between Nuland and here Russian back channel much announced by the Russians AND nothing was released from that teleconference--telling.

NOW the Ukrainian High Command is attempting to keep their own troops when heavily shelled and or involved in ground attacks from returning artillery and mortar fire to protect themselves--THE key question WHO is applying pressure on them to do that WHEN every day there are over 80 major shelling and aground attacks being conducted against them.

AND that so called 100mm weapons withdrawal--total lies by Russia and her mercenaries--the furthest they moved back was 3km not the demanded 30km.

So has Obama, Nuland,Hollande and Merkel decided now is the time to unilaterally conceded the Ukraine to Russian in order to "save his face" and so "gratitude" for his assistance with Iran???????

Appears so------

http://www.unian.info/politics/11043...of-donbas.html

Putin urges Kyiv to agree with militants on special status of Donbas

24.07.2015 | 09:21

NOTE to Obama, Nuland and Biden--that so called "good faith gesture" that Putin talks about does not quite seem to be "in good faith" as the Russian pullback was only 1.5kms where they built a new defensive line and they have attacked three times since this Putin statement the exact location where they are demanding a "good faith gesture"

So has Obama, Nuland and Biden "fallen" for Russian propaganda and or are they really interested in just throwing the Ukraine under the bus for Obama's "legacy".

In Mariupol activists are demanding an explanation from ATO HQ about the demilitarization of Shyrokyne.
http://112.ua/obshchestvo/v-mariupol...nt-247760.html …

Andriy Lysenko reports terrorists renewed attacks in Mariupol sector http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...or-394297.html …

Yesterday in Sector "M" militants attacked Starohnativka (SPGs), Shyrokyne and Chermalyk (small arms) - Sec. M spox
http://m.0629.com.ua/news/902836

The key question Obama, Nuland and Biden should be asking themselves is WHY after five hard months of intense fighting and massive shellings of Shyrokyne and they lost all the fights--just WHY are the Russian even pulling back.

They should be asking themselves if the Russian Army gains ground WHY give it up? That is not their military doctrine of 2013.

Remember the DMZ concept was first proposed four months ago by a Russian JCCC General.

Unilateral moves without a required reciprocal move is called in the international relations world simply "appeasement". One could in fact do that IF there was "trust" BUT remember in 2014 Obama openly stated to the entire world "we will judge Putin on his actions not his words".

Seems Obama forgets his own statements as often as he forgets his own red lines.

Remember recently he stated again "if the fighting gets serious we will implement harder sanctions"--well the fighting is extremely serious and heavy and yet nothing from Obama--seems he forgot again..

If one really looks at the Minsk 2 agreement the French and Germans built such an agreement knowing full well that unless the military steps were not implemented there would never be political steps--AND Obama has now "reversed" that plan--AND for exactly what reasons--his "legacy and showing gratitude" towards Putin is the answer.