Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
Putin made in his press conference speech at the Economic Forum in St Petersburg a reference that the Ukraine should do the "special zone for the mercenaries constitutional changes" in order to get talks going--BUT he kept also referring to his form of "federalization" and claiming that the Ukraine was doing nothing on their side.

Seems that in fact the Ukraine submitted their proposed "decentralization plans" to the Venice Commission for review ------

Take note, Russia: Venice comm on Ukraine draft const amdmts: a few chgs, but gen "well drafted & deserve support" http://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/d...-PI(2015)008-e …

Appears that Putin was "lying again".
THEN this Russian news agency press release from Interfax from today---NOTICE just how they spin the Venice decision.

LPR: Draft amendments to Ukrainian constitution do not lay foundation for settling conflict in southeast

MOSCOW. June 25 (Interfax) - The authorities of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) share the opinion of the Venice Commission that the constitutional amendments proposed by Ukraine will not ensure the resolution of the conflict in the southeast, LPR negotiator in the Contact Group Vladislav Deinego has said.

"The opinion of the [Venice] Commission that the suggested draft amendments do not lay a constitutional foundation for proposals aimed to resolve the conflict is fully shared by us," he told the Luhansk information center.

Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) negotiator in the Contact Group for Ukraine Denis Pushilin said earlier that of the Council of Europe's Venice Commission that published conclusions on draft amendments to the Ukrainian Constitution regarding decentralization "directly pointed out that the Ukrainian draft of the amendments was missing approaches and articles that could enable Kyiv to fulfill the Minsk agreements and decisions of the 'Normandy Four'".

The conclusions were drawn from comments by Venice Commission members Hanna Suchocka (Poland) and Carlo Tuori (Finland) and expert, representative of the Council of Europe's Congress of Local and Regional Authorities Alain Delcamp.

The document said that the conclusions were preliminary.
WHAT the Russian propagandists failed to mention is what the Ukraine submitted was the necessary changes to allow all of the Ukraine regions to "decentralize" including the mercenary zones and that the "decentralization" was fully correct as it applied to the Ukrainian Constitution.

Minsk 2 does not explicitly state what the "special zone constitution changes" should look like only that there is to be a special zone change--what was submitted in fact totally supports Minsk 2.

It is just that Russia and her mercenaries wanted "federalization" not decentralization". "Federalization" in Putin speak means the zones could have a veto right over anything the central government wanted to do and they could conduct and sign agreements with Russia directly--actually it is the Bosnian model that they want.

The proposed "Bosnian model" would give Russia total control over the Ukraine.