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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian "weaponization of information" moment of truth.--"we do not use the civilian population as human shields". BUT why does that then happen?? Which by the way is normal for an "invasion"---- but wait I though we are in a "civil war".....??

    Cognitive dissonance at work.

    VIDEO: RUSSIANS FIRING FROM ARTILLERY ON AN APARTMENT BUILDING IN AVDEEVKA
    http://www.publika.md/te-iau-fiorii-...-_2360011.html
    Pro-Russian rebels pointing out civilian apartment buildings to shell in Avdeyevka. Obvious war crime: http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...sualties/#9220

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Kiev says "Demon" Bezler returned to Horlivka. B/c rebel leadership wasn't quite crazy enough http://nv.ua/ukraine/events/odioznyy...ku--60010.html … pic.twitter.com/ewJQnDfEEX

    SG: NATO "will never accept” Russia's efforts to create “spheres of influence along its borders" http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/20-july...ldova-and-will

    Russian foreign Ministry has denounced the joint military exercises of NATO and Ukraine pic.twitter.com/LfxZsS1fjS http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/20-july...nced-the-joint

    Russian GRU intell unit on the ground ? Russian Orlan-10 variant crashed near Kassab, Lattakia. pic.twitter.com/8TOOmoU6nN

    Same advanced Israeli drone series which was shot down over the Ukraine and recovered by the Ukrainians--each cost the Russians 6M USDs so now they are in the hole for 12M USDs.
    Russia purchased 34 Aileron 3SV drones from Enix for RUB 100million in December 2013. #Syria use is interesting. pic.twitter.com/YeSAUFdWfE

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russians still shelling even after stating their were withdrawing all weapons 100mm and less--seems they forgot the 122, 152mm artillery that was suppose to have been withdrawn under Minsk 2.

    Donetsk: russians are shelling from self-propelled howitzers https://twitter.com/NeilRem/status/623177121507229696

    Kremlin’s main “tongue” pass terrorists’ shelling of Avdiivka as attack of Donetsk PHOTOS+VIDEO http://en.censor.net.ua/n344626

    OSCE also say they could not confirm JCCC reports about shelling in Avdiivka due to security reasons..

    20:10 #Yasynuvata @GirkinGirkin Rumble.

    20:10 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Closer small arms burst

    nearby Avdeevka shells are landing... artillery pullout by DNR was just a joke.

    20:05 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia I think in #Opytne direction there's ongoing battle. Both small arms and explosions are heard.

    20:04 #Avdeevka @bamr69 "So let's wait promised shelling? Explosions are becoming more frequent and closer. Damn withdrawal"

    20:01 @666_mancer [zello] "#Makeevka, Chaykine mine area: distant booms" "#Yasynuvata: rumble in the airport"

    20:22 #Staromykhaylivka @papandopoolo Intense small arms fire joined the sporadic artillery shots.

    20:22 @Al_Pod Small arms fire in #Staromykhaylivka for more than an hour already

    20:22 #Horlivka @vladicvp Single booms in #Shyroka_Balka for now, calm in general.

    OSCE report on #Donetsk shelling. Says 125 mm tank rounds. Tanks dont't have 10 km range if I remember right. http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=...e&e=7e51c3b9d7
    Zakharchenko: "If on Monday in #Minsk nothing will be solved, and i think it won't, then there will be war..." https://twitter.com/Guderian_Xaba/st...95715162251265

    Russia|ns shelling #Avdeevka from #Donetsk right now. So much about weapons withdrawal.

    Together with yesterdays threat to level #Avdeevka this is a bit worrying..
    https://twitter.com/xuilolala/status/623178428045467648

    20:55 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Freq gunnery in #Spartak direction like tow/the airport (?), ~2sec volley-explosion interval

    20:56 #Donetsk @HeleneHelene5 Evening volleys started in the north of Donetsk

    20:56 #Makeevka @Palchakkk Strong outgoing from #Hryhorivka

    20:50 #Donetsk @nixer79 Massive volleys from Putilovka groove & Spartak again, some double ones - "booboom-boom"

    21:00 #Donetsk Kalinovka @OldHistoric 152mm outgoing like from Gvardeyka by sound

    20:54 #Donetsk @NeilRem "Again RUS are pounding w/ 152mm SPG. Circus show 2 shots at Donetsk 10 at Avdeevka is starting"

    20:49 #Krasnohorivka @arthurnkua 120mm mortaring at UKR positions

    21:02 #Donetsk @nixer79 Shelled a bit and go away - armoured vehicles roar in Tochmash area

    21:02 #Donetsk Schetinina @DoneckiiPatriot One heard double gunshots, one loud and in 3-4 sec softer,

    21:02 #Donetsk @DoneckiiPatriot ...repeating after 10-13 sec, I counted at least 70 shots

    21:06 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster AGL

    21:06 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Here it goes - volley, hiss and landing [heard]

    21:05 #Donetsk @nixer79 They've changed position and are shelling again with withdrawn [cannons]

    21:10 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia They became further, only volleys are now heard

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    Basically, full blown war action all around Donetsk—shelling and ground attacks are literally streaming in to fast to translate them all.

    This is a serious attack all along the eastern front lines----AND from Obama, Kerry, Nuland, Hollande and Merkel—total absolute silence.

    MLRSs use are in full violation of Minsk 2 and are not being fired at all by the UA.



    21:29 #Donetsk @14720Maro And it's hell. Damn Grads?

    21:29 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Full Grad sound

    21:29 #Makeevka @jackson_villi [Outgoing] MLRS just now

    21:20 #Avdeevka @bamr69 It's party here! Non-stop incoming

    21:20 #Donetsk @PVB40 [fb] Zapadny bus station: Mortars approx fr/Hrabari tow/#Pisky

    21:20 #Donetsk @hauzenmynh Putilovka groove: an SPG shells very loudly

    In #Maryinka district a car with civilians leaving the occupied territory came unde RU terrorists fire, 3 wounded http://www.62.ua/news/895212

    21:10 #Donetsk @DoneckiiPatriot Again train goes passing Chumakivska

    21:19 #Donetsk @relictDon From the northwest sporadic single volleys are heard

    21:17 #Avdeevka @owl_ok Rumble

    21:16 #Donetsk @jackson_villi Moving ambulance cars are audible

    21:16 #Donetsk @anna031195 At Proletarka in Khraschevka [5-storey brick house] on the 3rd floor floor vibrates to volleys

    Donetsk Azotniy d-t area mortars are shelling Peski.

    Multiple reports of GRAD launches around #Donetsk (#Makeevka, #Avdeevka)

    21:29 #Donetsk Proletarka @levzeja What's the brattle in the sky? Grad? Uragan?

    21:29 #Makeevka @Don_esoteric Grad from Makeevka

    21:31 #Donetsk @relictDon Rumbles in the west in #Staromykhaylivka-#Krasnohorivka direction

    21:33 #Donetsk @AlfaNubovsky For around 40min we can hear artillery volleys w/short pauses fr/the city center direction

    21:30 #Donetsk @ropogckou Fr/#Makeevka outskirts 2 full loads of Grad were fired

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    HEADS UP--this is the so called reciprocal actions of Russia after the US forced the Ukraine into a unilateral move that should not have been made.

    BREAKING: US StratCom Joint Space Operations Center Alarmed With Russia’s Military Satellite 'Maneuvering Too Much'http://spacenews.com/maneuvering-rus...nes-attention/

    Kosmos 2504, launched in March, is possible an on-orbit anti-satellite weapon

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    OSCE doesn't confirm the "militants" heavy arms withdrawal, but sees "more intensive" movement of weapons in Donbas http://inforesist.org/obse-ne-podtve...ami/?_utl_t=tw

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    OSCE doesn't confirm the "militants" heavy arms withdrawal, but sees "more intensive" movement of weapons in Donbas http://inforesist.org/obse-ne-podtve...ami/?_utl_t=tw
    Now: infantry clash between #Krasnohorivka and #Staromihailivka
    Explosion in Kostyantynivka


    Staromykhailivka - incoming shelling.

    Now: very strong response of UKR forces to attack of Russian terrorists on #Shumy, very hot in western parts of #Horlivka

    Now. UKROP units entered deep into the southern part #Zaitseve try to eliminate terrorists russian artillery positions


    NOTICE just how hard it is to restrain the return of fire when one is constantly being shelled—because to return fire would immediately cause Russia to demand a new Minsk 3 and accuse the UA of returning fire—SOMETHING that DoS Kerry, Obama and Nuland seem to have forgotten in their drive to “save Putin’s face”.

    Avdiivka 22:14
    Again a volley in our blockpost area. Our artillery is silent. https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/623209351021465601

    Avdiivka 22:31
    At this moment calmed down https://twitter.com/Garik_Youmar/sta...13658563321857

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    #Donetsk city tonight: OUTGOING fire is so heavy, car sirens start yelling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_GstL9xz0

    Donetsk 21:57
    Kalinovka - full load of GRADs left #Makeevka https://twitter.com/chopsrighconvie/...05044259823616

    Makeevka 21:50
    MRLS GRAD fire outgoing in direction of #Avdiivka https://twitter.com/nativesss1/statu...03459781783552

    Makeevka 21:48
    Heavy single volleys towards #Spartak-#Yakovlevka https://twitter.com/VasyaMakeevskiy/...04197241126913

    21:48 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Single salvos in #Spartak-#Yakovlivka direction

    Avdiivka 21:53
    "Normal situation. Sit near checkpoint. Somewhere far away hear volleys"

    22:18 #Avdeevka @Garik_Youmar Electricity down in almost all old part of the town. Hiss and landings are heard
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-20-2015 at 07:59 PM.

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    Reference Georgia---now Russia is threatening Georgia as the new treaty between Russia and South Ossetia gives Russia military rights to protect South Ossetia

    http://tass.ru/en/world/809723

    South Ossetia not to leave Georgia’s border provocations unanswered — representative

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    The situation on the border started aggravating since mid-February when unidentified persons opened fire at the South Ossetian territory and wrenched out South Ossetia’s border marks.

    SEEMS Russia "forgot" the armed crossing by Russian Spetsnaz last week into Georgian territory.


    TSKHINVAL, July 20 /TASS/. The Republic of South Ossetia will respond to any new Georgian provocations on the border with South Ossetia, Kokh Gogloity, the deputy envoy for the post-conflict settlement who heads the South Ossetian delegation at negotiations within the framework of Mechanisms of Prevention and Reaction to incidents, said on Monday.

    "In case of repeated provocations…along the state border with Georgia’s adjacent territory, the South Ossetian side will react accordingly if the incidents continue," he said.

    The situation on South Ossetia’s border with Georgia was a subject for discussion at an extraordinary session held within the framework of the Mechanisms for Prevention and Reaction to Incidents. It was held at the Ergnet populated locality in Georgia at the request of the South Ossetian side. It was attended by representatives of South Ossetia, Russia, Georgia, the European Union Monitoring Mission (EUMM) in Georgia and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).

    It was noted that the situation on the border started aggravating since mid-February when unidentified persons opened fire at the South Ossetian territory and wrenched out South Ossetia’s border marks. The South Ossetian side has reported the incidents to the international monitors and co-chairmen of international organizations at the Geneva discussions for Security in South Caucasus many times.

    According to Gagloity, the co-chairmen of international organizations said they were ready to work for the sake of preserving peace in the region adding that any provocations did not contribute to regional stability.

    Earlier, the Georgian side accused the South Ossetian border guards of violating Georgia’s state border and alleged attempts to move the border marks deeper into the Georgian territory.

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    Latest data from Donetsk Ukraine shows Russia's proxies have stolen/destroyed billions of dollars worth of industry

    http://pravda.dn.ua/details/255497/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Now: infantry clash between #Krasnohorivka and #Staromihailivka
    Explosion in Kostyantynivka


    Staromykhailivka - incoming shelling.

    Now: very strong response of UKR forces to attack of Russian terrorists on #Shumy, very hot in western parts of #Horlivka

    Now. UKROP units entered deep into the southern part #Zaitseve try to eliminate terrorists russian artillery positions


    NOTICE just how hard it is to restrain the return of fire when one is constantly being shelled—because to return fire would immediately cause Russia to demand a new Minsk 3 and accuse the UA of returning fire—SOMETHING that DoS Kerry, Obama and Nuland seem to have forgotten in their drive to “save Putin’s face”.

    Avdiivka 22:14
    Again a volley in our blockpost area. Our artillery is silent. https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/623209351021465601

    Avdiivka 22:31
    At this moment calmed down https://twitter.com/Garik_Youmar/sta...13658563321857

    Footage
    #Donetsk city tonight: OUTGOING fire is so heavy, car sirens start yelling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_GstL9xz0

    Donetsk 21:57
    Kalinovka - full load of GRADs left #Makeevka https://twitter.com/chopsrighconvie/...05044259823616

    Makeevka 21:50
    MRLS GRAD fire outgoing in direction of #Avdiivka https://twitter.com/nativesss1/statu...03459781783552

    Makeevka 21:48
    Heavy single volleys towards #Spartak-#Yakovlevka https://twitter.com/VasyaMakeevskiy/...04197241126913

    21:48 #Makeevka @VasyaMakeevskiy Single salvos in #Spartak-#Yakovlivka direction

    Avdiivka 21:53
    "Normal situation. Sit near checkpoint. Somewhere far away hear volleys"

    22:18 #Avdeevka @Garik_Youmar Electricity down in almost all old part of the town. Hiss and landings are heard
    Footage
    The Russian Army "withdraws" (in your dream!) a T-72BM tank & BMP-1 from #Horlivka
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5q9AyxiMk … pic.twitter.com/s0RqJYVyEG

    Russian proxies use 120mm mortars to shell Ukraine troops over 40 times on Monday
    http://www.unian.info/war/1102922-ru...on-monday.html … pic.twitter.com/KeXKnU5K1P
    Clear non compliance by Russia and her mercenaries in fulfilling Minsk 2.

    For the last four days the Russian mercenaries have stated over and over and together with OSCE --that they had pulled all weapons of 100mm and less off the front line---and they demanded the UA do the same--repeated their demands again this morning pointing to their withdrawals. Even the Russian FM also stated that the UA should do the same.

    BUT what is this-----???? Appears that Russia and her mercenaries were basically lying again and yet the US forces the Ukraine to do a unilateral move without a reciprocal move by the Russia all to "save Putin's face".

    Seems the OSCE was completely fooled by the mercenaries and or working with them--they definitely did not withdraw their tanks forces off the front lines. The OSCE did not in their reporting today even mention the fact that one of the tanks they stood on was a T72B1 only used by the Russian Army and never in the UA--and a SAM 18 also not used by the UA--not a single word in their daily reporting.

    Somewhere in the area of #Pisky intense battle with tanks.
    21:17 https://twitter.com/Buzzing_Rook/sta...25269550247936
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian official needs to fully reread the ICAO regulations--he is totally wrong.

    http://tass.ru/en/world/809699

    Russian senator: MH17 flight crash probe under international law should be done by Ukraine

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    Russian senator Andrey Klishas believes the probe should be done by Ukraine on whose territory the Malaysian passenger airliner was shot down


    There is a globally endorsed @UN draft MH17 resolution, brought in by Malaysia. http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/20-july...h17-resolution

    We have submitted our own draft resolution." – UN Russian Ambassador Churkin
    Russia makes rival U.N. move on MH17 probe after dismissing tribunal bid http://reut.rs/1MDK7Gb via @Reuters
    THIS after standing up in the UNSC and demanding an investigation--and blaming the Ukrainians AND NOW?????

    VIDEO #Russia "CREATES" an INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATOR to discredit #MH17 findings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8i8aALxpBY … WOW pic.twitter.com/EO9jruLRKv

    Russia wants to merge its #MH17 UN proposal with Malaysia's. (Sounds like Moscow wants to redo the investigation.) https://slon.ru/posts/54258
    All Russia wants to do is delay the final outcome for as long as they can delay, distract, distort and deflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Footage
    The Russian Army "withdraws" (in your dream!) a T-72BM tank & BMP-1 from #Horlivka
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5q9AyxiMk … pic.twitter.com/s0RqJYVyEG

    Russian proxies use 120mm mortars to shell Ukraine troops over 40 times on Monday
    http://www.unian.info/war/1102922-ru...on-monday.html … pic.twitter.com/KeXKnU5K1P
    Clear non compliance by Russia and her mercenaries in fulfilling Minsk 2.

    For the last four days the Russian mercenaries have stated over and over and together with OSCE --that they had pulled all weapons of 100mm and less off the front line---and they demanded the UA do the same--repeated their demands again this morning pointing to their withdrawals. Even the Russian FM also stated that the UA should do the same.

    BUT what is this-----???? Appears that Russia and her mercenaries were basically lying again and yet the US forces the Ukraine to do a unilateral move without a reciprocal move by the Russia all to "save Putin's face".

    Seems the OSCE was completely fooled by the mercenaries and or working with them--they definitely did not withdraw their tanks forces off the front lines. The OSCE did not in their reporting today even mention the fact that one of the tanks they stood on was a T72B1 only used by the Russian Army and never in the UA--and a SAM 18 also not used by the UA--not a single word in their daily reporting.

    Somewhere in the area of #Pisky intense battle with tanks.
    21:17 https://twitter.com/Buzzing_Rook/sta...25269550247936
    Shellings are still ongoing as are several of the ground attacks----

    23:26 #Donetsk @AkaDON12 Awful things can be heard fr/airport!Now as if they shell with alive frogs - croaking, then like fr/PK but w/bursts

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Footage
    The Russian Army "withdraws" (in your dream!) a T-72BM tank & BMP-1 from #Horlivka
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ5q9AyxiMk … pic.twitter.com/s0RqJYVyEG

    Russian proxies use 120mm mortars to shell Ukraine troops over 40 times on Monday
    http://www.unian.info/war/1102922-ru...on-monday.html … pic.twitter.com/KeXKnU5K1P
    Clear non compliance by Russia and her mercenaries in fulfilling Minsk 2.

    For the last four days the Russian mercenaries have stated over and over and together with OSCE --that they had pulled all weapons of 100mm and less off the front line---and they demanded the UA do the same--repeated their demands again this morning pointing to their withdrawals. Even the Russian FM also stated that the UA should do the same.

    BUT what is this-----???? Appears that Russia and her mercenaries were basically lying again and yet the US forces the Ukraine to do a unilateral move without a reciprocal move by the Russia all to "save Putin's face".

    Seems the OSCE was completely fooled by the mercenaries and or working with them--they definitely did not withdraw their tanks forces off the front lines. The OSCE did not in their reporting today even mention the fact that one of the tanks they stood on was a T72B1 only used by the Russian Army and never in the UA--and a SAM 18 also not used by the UA--not a single word in their daily reporting.

    Somewhere in the area of #Pisky intense battle with tanks.
    21:17 https://twitter.com/Buzzing_Rook/sta...25269550247936
    Appears the Russian FM and his mercenaries are outright lying when it comes to their supposedly "withdrawal" which even OSCE now agrees they could not monitor as they were not allowed to follow the "withdrawal".

    I mapped the Russian "troop withdrawal" for u as it was recorded by @OSCE_SMM
    If you can't see it, you are a fascist.
    pic.twitter.com/7SUnAP9Lv8

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    Obama, Kerry, Nuland, Hollande and Merkel MUST seriously ask themselves JUST WHY they conducted a unilateral appeasement political move with no reciprocal requirements that truly endangered what was left of Minsk 2 in order to “save Putin’s face” and to ensure the Germans can do business as usual ie Siemens selling “unknowingly” a power turbine to Russia that was then diverted to the Crimea in the face of the sanctions embargo. ALL the while claiming they are in massive support of the Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    Below has a direct relationship to their “unilateral appeasement” moves and to argue otherwise is not being honest with themselves.

    Have they forgotten the concept of “cause and effect” in the realm of international relations—seems so.

    Remember Obama clearly stated "we will judge Putin on his actions not words" well below is his actions and where are the western leaders--silence.

    You will notice that the UA rarely returns fire as they are desperately trying to hold to Minsk 2 in spite of Obama.

    Horlivka 8:20
    Artillery fire still ongoing


    Svitlodarsk, 6.10AM
    Hearing heavy singles, incoming in the area of #Semyhirya https://twitter.com/hu_svetlodarsk/s...27150100357120

    #Staromikhailivka 5:52AM
    Instead of alarm clock sound like incoming shelling, it's unclear where https://twitter.com/papandopoolo/sta...24725071212544

    Donetsk 5:50AM
    Kyivsky ds - loud! https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...23918045212673

    #Donetsk 5:51AM
    The morning begins with powerful explosions at the airport. https://twitter.com/idinmor/status/623324269108416512

    05:34 #Horlivka @DobryShubin They went silent

    05:36 And started over

    05:37 @blessmaster UKR arty replies

    4 incoming in Maryinka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-july...ng-in-maryinka

    Volleys somewhere in Horlivka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/21-july...re-in-horlivka

    05:00 Svitlodarsk @GirkinGirkin Rumble

    05:11 #Horlivka Kalinovka @UA_Gorlivka Tanks or SPGs, singles fr/Bayrak cemetery dir'n

    #Horlivka 7:06AM
    After a brief lull artillery works again https://twitter.com/DobryShubin/stat...43383231266817

    05:03 #Horlivka @DobryShubin Rumble started

    05:08 #Horlivka Kalinovka @UA_Gorlivka 40 volleys for 5 min, from slag heap?

    @Guderian_Xaba 6:43AM
    Return fire from #Holmivskyi

    04:39 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk Since 4:30 to 4:35 shell landings in #Luhanske area

    04:30 #Horlivka @Xykalinovka Volleys somewhere [far away]

    04:20 #Maryinka @jeckantroling 4 incoming "over the [boarding] school"

    #Horlivka 6:41AM
    Thought it went silent, now bitches shooting again, powerfully. https://twitter.com/Xykalinovka/stat...36914435895296

    #Donetsk
    From 5:45 to 6AM from Gvardeyka shelled Putilovka with howitzers, 10-11sec. from salvo to hit
    https://twitter.com/AkaDON12/status/623338184802439169
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    And the shellings are still heavy and ongoing----

    Donetsk 12:40
    Kyivskyi ds - "at #Spartak battle. Perfectly audible" https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...27896472915970

    12:32 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Boom and landing in Avdeevka

    12:27 #Donetsk @liliya44514215 Again from the northwest one can hear shooting and outgoing [gunshots]

    12:19 #Donetsk @Buzzing_Rook Howitzers/SPG are shelling from Azotny

    12:19 #Donetsk @g_org_e They are shelling from Durna_Balka for around 10 minutes

    Shchastya "We were usually in the cellar. Three nights we did not sleep at home but instead we sat in the cellar" http://uatoday.tv/politics/rubble-an...ng-459600.html

    12:19 #Donetsk Schetinina @DoneckiiPatriot Sporadic distant volleys of a heavy cannon are heard

    Donetsk 12:17
    Periodical volleys to north-west. https://twitter.com/BylByleva_/statu...21464537116673

    Militants for the 3rd day shelled Stanytsia Luhanska. Damaged shop. No gas, electricity - RSA
    http://www.loga.gov.ua/oda/press/new...ews_66899.html … pic.twitter.com/SezauczKdt

    Ukrainian village destroyed after intense Russian militant shelling
    http://24today.net/open/477831

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Pro-Russian rebels pointing out civilian apartment buildings to shell in Avdeyevka. Obvious war crime: http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...sualties/#9220
    Russian mercenary war crimes again--using civilians human shields to protect their bases.

    Breaking: @Aero_Dnipro1 uses drone footage and Google Streetvieew to expose terrorist base behind apartment block.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mas5p8OAULs

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    OSCE
    Between Sept. 1 and June 1, monitors counted 20,021 Russians in military uniforms crossing to and from rebel-controlled eastern Ukraine.

    Humanitarian aid should be delivered via Ukraine controlled border with complete customs control @poroshenko https://twitter.com/APUkraine/status/623146379905531904

    Near Donetsk, Ukrainian troops see no signs of shelling coming to a stop http://uatoday.tv/politics/east-ukra...ka-459104.html … pic.twitter.com/a5ue6TM6Yf

    Interfax

    July 20, 2015 14:12

    Karasin, Nuland due to speak on Minsk agreements' fulfillment on phone on Monday (Part 2)



    After the unilateral pressure placed on the Ukraine to pass a "special status" bill which they did we got a massive "false flag" shelling of multiple cities and towns across the front lines.

    notice the unilateral move was not reciprocal.

    Then we get the mercenaries announcing they are withdrawing all 100mm weapons are less from the front lines--WHY they want the UA to unilateral disarm --right now the US has largely no responded with heavy artillery when massively fired on and their heavy weapons are for the most part still in storage areas.

    Right now the UA has been actually successful in fending off Russian ground attacks with their 100mm or less weapons using 82mm mortars, RPGs and AGL. They call when necessary for artillery strikes when the shellings get to intense.

    BUT the 100mm weapons that were pulled back only went 1.5kms still within their maximum effective ranges.

    So the UA has not disarmed much to the anger of the Russian and her mercenaries.

    BTW--there is still ongoing heavy artillery shelling the UA positions--so the loudly announced withdrawal by both Russia and her mercenaries was simply a bold lie.
    The Russian press release indicated they wanted to talk about the lack of humanitarian aid getting to the Donbass as a critical issue that the US was suppose to help by pressuring the Ukrainians to "allow".

    So if in fact the Russians are so "concerned about humanitarian aid" THEN they need to explain this.......???????????

    Russia Militants do not allow Red Cross humanitarian aid entering #Donetsk, occupied east #Ukraine http://www.unian.info/war/1103068-mi...g-donetsk.html

    So for (pro-)Russians, the Red Cross now is a fascist organization, too, why they can't let Red Cross help in Donetsk after shelling it ?

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    Well so much for the Russian FM and her mercenaries constant recent statements about them withdrawing heavy weapons from the eastern front lines.

    OSCE Doesn't Confirm Russia-Backed Militants Withdrew Heavy Weapons
    http://ukraineunderattack.org/en/244...y-weapons.html … pic.twitter.com/9xegvG99LJ

    IF they had in fact withdrawn as they so state--THEN who in the heck is conducting all of the heavy shellings for the last 12 hours??????

    Guess it is some "unnamed third party" ie the CIA.
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    Cyber warfare and cyber crime are part and parcel of non linear warfare or what many call "hybrid" warfare.

    There was a massive hack on an Italian software company "The Hacking Team"
    which was 400G in size. This company had both a "white face" as well as a "dark face" and their "dark face" malware work can defeat virtually 95 to 98% of all available cheap to expensive AV software packages. A lot of their work is not detectable at all by any AV product.

    The following individual has spent a massive amount of time literally taking apart their emails, code and malware and had major surprises along the way.

    He was the first to warn Adobe after discovering it in the files about an extremely serious backdoor Zeroday in their Adobe Flash Player which Adobe knew nothing about but the dark side had known about it and had used for a long time.--Adobe immediately patched it.

    This single hack has provided far more details into the dark side of the internet and it is worth following his work to fully understand what he has discovered.

    It has changed the way I consult my customers in the area of critical infrastructure security. It has taught an "old dog in this business since 1993"--honestly some totally new tricks.

    mailforlen @mailforlen

    #hackingteam for the first time we have the real PRE-infect files and don't have to reverse engineer - but the big AV's are sleeping

    #hackingteam all the malware coders have to do is to find the destroy-after-infect line to re-use the same file over and over agan

    #hackingteam I always used to have several licenses for several small efficient AV in my work to double check - again and again

    #hackingteam and there is only one small Italian av that can protect you for now .... wow... this will lteach the biggies a lesson . ...

    hackingteam the security industry should understand that all that zeroday code and attack infrastructure is being downloaded wholescale

    hackingteam there will be a before and an after, this is a watershed moment, anybody can set now a profes. attack infrastructure up FREE


    hackteam needs volunteers doing a bit of the work, have lists of searchterms, checks and so on https://twitter.com/cryptostorm_is/s...17334775042048

    hackingteam another advantage of .rar files, anubis can't analyze them, need file inside but than you are infected pic.twitter.com/W7es67huvC

    hackingteam all my links favourites or work done (some got distracted by adware and malware on the same servers) https://www.diigo.com/outliner/68bdod/hackingteam#

    hackingteam than we have to publish all the MD5 of the found infected files online so the other AV's start waking up

    hackingteam if we want to clean the web we should upload all the HT files to https://www.metascan-online.com they seem to find them - all of them

    hackingteam as I said every day we find new things .. biggest thing today... an antivirus that works against their files...

    hackingteam feel like the little Belgian with his very cheap computer taking on bad guys again pic.twitter.com/lrqu2B8RbR

    hackingteam we don't have to find their servers, have to understand how they worked and why our security didn't work and didn't protect us
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    Sometimes I wonder if Obama and his NSC seriously understand what it means when an entire civil society stands up and declares we are tired of corruption, oligarchs and Russia and want our own civil society based on the rule of law, good governance and transparency and we want to define our future--- not have another country define it for us.

    Especially when this civil society has supported the Maidan and it's loses, has massively supported their Army and held one of the fairest elections in years of Ukrainian history. The Ukrainian Army is fighting so well now they have virtually stopped the Russian Army AND many to include Obama have repeatedly stated there is no military solution --but the UA needs ATMs--recently their fired 12 times using RPGs and AGLs to kill one tank.

    Yet the UA has boxed in the Russian Army and her mercenaries into a 200 mile front and it has not grown much since Feb 2015--SO in effect there has been a military solution so they seem to be doing something right while growing the force from 6K in August 2014 to over 65K in 2015.

    I know of no other country in the last 100 years that has passed major reforms in the middle of a war, has recreated and rebuild their Army all the while in continuous fighting now for over a year and who have been invaded by 700 tanks, 27K Russian mercenaries and 12K Russian troops and whose army gets shelled with 150 tons of munitions almost daily now and they are still very much in the fight.

    Former U.S. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle calls on Pres. Obama to visit Ukraine http://politi.co/1JduoyP pic.twitter.com/A0kXqwO50D

    He will never do this as it would require him to have the courage to directly confront Putin and this President is not about confrontation—BUT on the other hand neither has his concept of “soft power and talking” worked with Putin.

    Faces of people that maintain peace of our country on their shoulders: .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otx8...ature=youtu.be … pic.twitter.com/1h1OKv814z
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