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    #Russia troops attacking directly into just 1 #Donbas town isn't an offensive; when they advance deep into #Ukraine, then it's an offensive.

    AFP reporter injured in east Ukraine shelling - in English https://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp-report...154540885.html … via @yahoosg

    Russian Nazi taken POW today @JulianRoepcke pic.twitter.com/fdhol3Husc

    #LOLnews
    The "DNR"'s Basurin says, Ukrainian forces broke the ceasefire 185 times in the last 24 hours
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    Russian ground forces DPR tactical group "Somalia" (cmdr Tolstykh/"Givi") at Donetsk airport via GRU @EgoRZemtsoV pic.twitter.com/rDEV3hmLiM

    Russian ground forces LPR unit "Ghost" (ex-Mozgovoy) in Russian-occupied Donbas via GRU @EgoRZemtsoV 14 Jun pic.twitter.com/OFVSEXG7Dt

    Russian aircraft flies 500 feet above #NATO warships, officials (almost) 'very uncomfortable': http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/13/po...sea/index.html … pic.twitter.com/UVjzd74HJl

    19 Enemy Drones Recorded Over Day - Motuzyanyk http://ukraineunderattack.org/en/17531-19-en
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    Another strong evidence of #Russia special forces' presence in #Ukraine http://yle.fi/uutiset/8073906 (in Fin)

    Leaders of LPR sets miners under pressure. Work without pay, or fighting in ranks of militia. http://nv.ua/ukraine/events/glavari-...aty-53651.html … pic.twitter.com/JIbpD1pwvN

    Rodina and Novotoshkivske under shelling from Pervomaisk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/14-june...rom-pervomaisk … via @GirkinGirkin

    RUS ability to recruit volunteers to fight in Donbas is waning http://voc.tv/1QXepom pic.twitter.com/h83Aeo8CmI
    With reservists losing interest in fighting #Ukraine, will #Russia send more regulars now?

    Militants shelling of #Marinka continued throughout the day, injuring at least one civilian http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/14-june...ued-throughout

    2 Ukr troops KIA, 3 WIA in the Russian shelling of #Maryinka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/14-june...an-shelling-of
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    For two former Spetsnaz service members who Putin claimed were never on active duty and are POWs—this is a rather strange Russian action if they were in fact “former service members”???

    Friend of Erofeev: "Relatives have been isolated from the whole world. We [their friends] have also been processed. I can't say more"

    .@novaya_gazeta reporter unable to get in touch with relatives of captured Spetznaz; told by officers' friends: "They have been isolated"

    Spetznaz Alexandrov: "I was able to chat with my wife on VK only,no one answers phones. Wife deleted her profile after a few chat attempts"

    Spetznaz POW : "Ukrainian wounded soldiers are met back home as heroes. RU wounded soldiers are being hidden and disowned back home"

    RU consul told Alexandrov "We can't get in touch with your wife or relatives, either". He laughs it off as a lie.
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    FaceBook has been attacked by Ukrainian bloggers for blocking hundreds of Ukrainian FB accounts when Russia trolls challenged those accounts for so called violence or offensive subject matter. FB response to the Ukrainian complaints was basically to fluff them off and conduct business as usual.

    After sending FB numerous examples of FB actively doing the Russian info war troll work for them.

    Seems now that FB might just have gotten the message that they are being played by Russian trolls.

    The issue of account blocking is getting attention. #Facebook representative to visit #Ukraine http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...visit-ukraine/ … pic.twitter.com/OFT4RHZWII

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    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces



    WASHINGTON— Late yesterday evening, the U.S. House of Representatives considered H.R. 2685, the “Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2015.” During consideration of the legislation, Congressman John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) and Congressman Ted Yoho (R-Fla.) offered bipartisan amendments to block the training of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi paramilitary militia “Azov Battalion,” and to prevent the transfer of shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles—otherwise known as Man-Portable Air-Defense Systems (MANPADS)—to Iraq or Ukraine.

    “If there’s one simple lesson we can take away from US involvement in conflicts overseas, it’s this: Beware of unintended consequences. As was made vividly clear with U.S. involvement in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion decades ago, overzealous military assistance or the hyper-weaponization of conflicts can have destabilizing consequences and ultimately undercut our own national interests,” said Rep. John Conyers. “I am grateful that the House of Representatives unanimously passed my amendments last night to ensure that our military does not train members of the repulsive neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, along with my measures to keep the dangerous and easily trafficked MANPADs out of these unstable regions.”

    Ukraine’s Azov Battalion is a 1,000-man volunteer militia of the Ukrainian National Guard that Foreign Policy Magazine has characterized as “openly neo-Nazi,” and “fascist.” Ukraine’s Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who oversees Ukraine’s armed militias, announced that Azov troops would be among the first units to be trained by the Pentagon in Operation Fearless Guardian, prompting significant international concern.

    Since their initial use on a battlefield in 1978, MANPAD attacks have resulted in nearly 1,000 civilian deaths.

    Added Conyers, “Both U.S. and Israeli officials have feared that these weapons could be used by terrorists to bring down commercial jets. As the boundaries are increasingly blurred between insurgents fighting the Syrian government and those fighting the Iraqi government, providing additional arms could further destabilize the Middle East. The same can be said for Ukraine, where an anti-aircraft missile allegedly downed Flight MH17 last September, killing 298 civilians. The possibility that MANPADS—or any weapon—could fall into the hands of radical groups in Iraq, Syria, or Ukraine, would unquestionably increase the already-devastating human toll in both of these volatile regions.”

    According to Reuters, The Azov battalion originated from a paramilitary national socialist group called "Patriot of Ukraine", which propagated slogans of white supremacy, racial purity, the need for authoritarian power and a centralized national economy. Azov’s controversial founder, Andriy Biletsky, organized the neo-Nazi group the Social-National Assembly (SNA) in 2008.

    “The Azov men use the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel (Wolf’s Hook) symbol on their banner and members of the battalion are openly white supremacists, or anti-Semites,” wrote The Telegraph. Since Azov was enrolled as a regiment of Ukraine's National Guard in September and started receiving increased supplies of heavy arms, however, Biletsky has toned down his rhetoric, Reuters reported. According to the Washington Post, battalion members “could potentially strike pro-Russian targets on their own — or even turn on the [Ukrainian] government” if it pursues a diplomatic resolution to the conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces
    Seems the good Congressman "forgot" to ask the Ukrainians what they think of the "so called Nazi Regiment Azov" that he passed an amendment on in the Defense Spending Bill.

    RESIDENTS OF #MARIUPOL THANK THE #AZOV FOR LIBERATING THE CITY FROM THE #TERRORISTS OF #DNR https://www.facebook.com/uarighttraditions/posts/856890501064360[/url] … pic.twitter.com/VehTCZed4M

    AND I am not so sure he fully understands that Russia has it's fill of Nazi's BUT I see he is not condemning Russian Nazi's--SO why the sudden deep interest in "so called Ukrainian Nazi's"?????

    Captured by #Ukraine near #Mariupol, #Russian soldier with Nazi tattoo! The real fascists CAUGHT IN BIG LIE! pic.twitter.com/h7wVL4T4B6

    Captured near #Shyrokyne , an RU soldier, nazi supporter and with his RU documents https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater … pic.twitter.com/HWvlaklSg7

    Ukraine Right Sector captured another #Russia(n) soldier by call sign "June" in #Shyrokyne http://translate.googleusercontent.c...L3epIbba2m3QBQ … pic.twitter.com/kfkpVnO5Ms
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    And Basurin only says what Lentsov (Russian Army) wants him to say - for domestic consumption in Russia (They believe it!)

    Hot spots of Ukraine Conflict as of June 12, 2015
    http://en.hromadske.tv pic.twitter.com/2rhB7nwyfY

    We agree. These are probing attacks and small unit tactics, not "offensive" tactics.

    Several terrorists’ mortar shells hit five-storey apartment building in Triokhizbenka http://en.censor.net.ua/n339989

    Numerous reports on social media that #Avdiyivka coke plant as been shelled again today. Augurs (more) trouble for Mariupol steel industry

    Terrorists shelled Zolote and Marinka checkpoints http://en.censor.net.ua/n340006

    Former US ambassador says Congress ready to send weapons to Ukraine - watch on - http://uatoday.tv http://uatoday.tv/politics/wroclaw-g...ne-438796.html

    Today 74 years ago #Soviets sent 65000 innocent people from #Baltics #Ukraine & #Moldova to #Siberia just like that. pic.twitter.com/F0CpLu2B8w

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Seems the good Congressman "forgot" to ask the Ukrainians what they think of the "so called Nazi Regiment Azov" that he passed an amendment on in the Defense Spending Bill.

    RESIDENTS OF #MARIUPOL THANK THE #AZOV FOR LIBERATING THE CITY FROM THE #TERRORISTS OF #DNR https://www.facebook.com/uarighttraditions/posts/856890501064360[/url] … pic.twitter.com/VehTCZed4M

    AND I am not so sure he fully understands that Russia has it's fill of Nazi's BUT I see he is not condemning Russian Nazi's--SO why the sudden deep interest in "so called Ukrainian Nazi's"?????

    Captured by #Ukraine near #Mariupol, #Russian soldier with Nazi tattoo! The real fascists CAUGHT IN BIG LIE! pic.twitter.com/h7wVL4T4B6

    Captured near #Shyrokyne , an RU soldier, nazi supporter and with his RU documents https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater … pic.twitter.com/HWvlaklSg7

    Ukraine Right Sector captured another #Russia(n) soldier by call sign "June" in #Shyrokyne http://translate.googleusercontent.c...L3epIbba2m3QBQ … pic.twitter.com/kfkpVnO5Ms
    The Right Sector published an interview with the Nazi russian mercenary captured at Shyrokyno https://youtu.be/7WCNzHY4-rw

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces
    Cannot believe the good Congressman would believe social media would not have run down what was behind his amendment.

    http://zik.ua/en/news/2015/06/14/ant...vochkin_598626

    Anti-Ukrainian provocation in USA was bankrolled by S. Liovochkin

    Ex-Regions heavyweight member Serhy Liovochkin was behind the anti-Ukrainian provocation in the United States aimed at declaring the ‘Azov’ volunteer battalion a neo-Nazi unit and banning to give Ukraine mobile AA missiles, Ihor Mosijchuk, a Radical party lawmaker, writes in Facebook June 14, citing his own investigation.

    “The links to US Congress adopting a ban to provide instructors for ‘Azov’ servicemen and supply mobile AA Stinger missiles lead to Kyiv,” he writes.

    The lobbying was done, under contract with Liovochkin, by US spin doctor Paul Mannafort whose services had been used by ex-president Yanukovych, Mosijchuk says.

    The ban was initiated in the Congress by Congressman John Conniers

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    Reference Moldavian elections---Transnistria

    REPORTS OF RUSSIAN SOLDIERS CHECKING PEOPLE FROM TRANSNISTRIA THAT WERE TRYING TO VOTE
    http://agora.md/stiri/9909/rata-de-p...u-unii-votanti

    REPORTS OF BEATINGS IN POLLING STATIONS, PEOPLE BROUGHT BY BUS OR WITH AMBULANCES TO VOTE, OR PAID WITH MONEY OR DRINKS.

    BREAKING: PARTIAL RESULTS SHOW PRO-RUSSIAN CANDIDATE(ACTUALLY BORN IN RUSSIA) WON THE CAPITAL CHISINAU
    http://www.realitatea.md/live-text--...lei_22295.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces
    The Congressman should show some concern for the sheer number of Russian Nazi's fighting in the Ukraine and or in the Russian military. But he did not as he was false informed it seems by someone with other interests.

    A member of Russian Special Forces company which stormed the Crimean Parliament is an identified neo-Nazi pic.twitter.com/cjWSqu32NV

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    #Russian TV proudly shows its illegal armed groups setting up #landmines in Ukraine. https://youtu.be/H0KmJq9cww0 pic.twitter.com/OBIs4P6HcT

    Format of hybrid war changing, #Russia will try to undermine #Ukraine's stability from within – Poroshenko http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/271764.html

    Volleys of MLRS "Grad" in Donetsk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...rad-in-donetsk

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The Congressman should show some concern for the sheer number of Russian Nazi's fighting in the Ukraine and or in the Russian military. But he did not as he was false informed it seems by someone with other interests.

    A member of Russian Special Forces company which stormed the Crimean Parliament is an identified neo-Nazi pic.twitter.com/cjWSqu32NV

    Seems the local Ukrainian media has a far different view of Azov as does the good Congressman:

    Holding back #Putin’s Red Tide in #Shyrokyne (#photo essay):
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...-in-shyrokyne/
    AZOV pic.twitter.com/pubxQtm4G2

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces
    Department of state: #the U.S. had no plans to train battalion #Azov. pic.twitter.com/PoD7tNkrt2 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...plans-to-train

    This DoS statement seems to imply two questions;

    1. why did the good Congressman not fact check his information concerning the projected training of Azov

    AND even more importantly--

    2. WHO fed him the "wrong information" and what did he get for his efforts outside of press coverage????

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    In #Аntrasyt area (#Luhansk reg.) a large convoy of GRADs arrived from Russia, they went to the Novopavlivka mine. https://twitter.com/Karlik_Pu/status/610561373697896448

    #Avdiivka shelling 14.06.2015
    HighRes: http://img.ly/C3wx pic.twitter.com/h93Gq4ZGW3

    AND this after even the JCCC with a Russian general actually accused and verified that the mercenaries were in fact firing phosphorus shells.

    Russia MoD war propaganda accuses Ukraine of using phosphorus shells.
    If you tell a lie often enough...

    https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...51884751990785

    @ystriya Phosphorous shells my backside! (That's a glowing fuse head FFS). Someone with a blowtorch and a videocam more like!

    From another world of “Russian reality”
    Russian Investigative Committee official wants probe into U.S. moon landing, suggests it was faked
    http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2015/...ficial-wants-a

    VIDEO @SimonOstrovsky following the path of Russian soldiers taking selfies in Ukraine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso … pic.twitter.com/dV87kBPWbx

    VICE News ✔ @vicenews
    .@SimonOstrovsky sets out to prove that Russian soldiers are fighting in Ukraine: http://bit.ly/1cY2vgs pic.twitter.com/F8TFtzaHR1
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Department of state: #the U.S. had no plans to train battalion #Azov. pic.twitter.com/PoD7tNkrt2 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...plans-to-train

    This DoS statement seems to imply two questions;

    1. why did the good Congressman not fact check his information concerning the projected training of Azov

    AND even more importantly--

    2. WHO fed him the "wrong information" and what did he get for his efforts outside of press coverage????
    This rap video from Azov might help the good Congressman to "see and understand" the Ukrainian war and who Azov is fighting.

    More war-themed rap from Donbass, this time from Ukrainian Azov battalion, set to them shooting at DNR in Shyrokyne

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-PCE5n87c …e

    The good Congressman must ask himself if this looks like a crazed bunch of Nazi's running around overthrowing the Ukrainian government OR are they heavily engaged defending that very government????

    If the good Congressman paid attention to the video not a single Nazi symbol anywhere to be seen-- what was seen was the Ukrainian colors on some of their uniforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces
    If the good Congressman is truly concerned about Nazi's fighting in the Ukraine--here is something he can sink his political teeth into and come out a winner.

    Challenge the journalist credentials of this particular Russian journalist who is often with OSCE as they tour the Ukrainian frontline positions.

    THEN the good Congressman should check this individuals' active membership in a Russian Nazi group also fighting at the same time in the Ukraine.

    So the good Congressman could couple defending against Russian propaganda, helping the OSCE as they are often willingly and or unwillingly being used for spying by the Russians and he could openly challenge Russian Nazi's in the Ukraine.

    I would say that is a win, win, win......

    Member of Nazi unit 'Русич', Oksana Nikadimova allowed to spy during OSCE-trips?http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.com.tr/...a-allowed.html … pic.twitter.com/QLmpSpvNeO

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    Donetsk 2:26AM
    Far to the south-west hear battle. Already since two hours does not subside. https://twitter.com/relictDon/status/610951521237344258

    @Guderian_Xaba Subsequently under cover of 120mm mortars another russian gang of no less than 150 criminals attacked our positions
    #Marinka

    Fierce battles for #Логвиново #Lohvynove with RU invaders North-West of the demarcation line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNc2Pzl6eIhttps://twitter.com/DajeyPetros/stat...21745655144449

    A number of Russian fighters were taken prisoner in the initial fighting –major battle failure by the mercenaries nothing being reported on their failures yet.

    ATO presser: After midnight an assault group of about 30 militants unsuccessfully attacked our positions in the area of #Marinka.

    #Marinka 06:40AM
    For 5 hours Marinka was under continuous bombardment. Currently relatively quiet. https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/611033588046397440

    #Donetsk 6AM
    Petrovka - everything is in smoke, don't see #Marinka https://twitter.com/hyeva_maryinka/s...21138865594368

    This is from the realm of "Russian altered state of reality"----
    VIDEO Russian 'Hybrid' Commander: we inflicted astronomical losses at Marinka to Ukrainians.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=143&v=ic45inILO5o … pic.twitter.com/kgBC5EIdMf

    10 Former #KGB Officers Who Are Now Filthy Rich > http://www.businesspundit.com/10-for...w-filthy-rich/
    Putin is estimated to have pulled to the side approximately 40B USD and has five mansions.

    Ukraine gets hold of #Russia's military plan for large-scale invasion:
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...cale-invasion/
    pic.twitter.com/D5NLkxH97D
    NOTE: some commenters have openly questioned whether this was a fake disinformation by the Russians BUT then this kind of sums up the overall thought---

    Anybody here seriously think Russian General Staff has NOT planned ALL scenarios for full-scale war with Ukraine? pic.twitter.com/nhRCkLJXwY

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