Page 10 of 170 FirstFirst ... 891011122060110 ... LastLast
Results 181 to 200 of 3394

Thread: Ukraine: Russo-Ukr War (June-December 2015)

  1. #181
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    http://imrussia.org/en/analysis/poli...pawi0Q.twitter

    Weapons of Mass Deception. Part One

    16 June 2015 Vasily Gatov

    The overwhelming scale and deeply destructive nature of the Kremlin’s information war has only recently drawn attention of the Western mainstream media and policymakers. In part one of his essay, prominent Russian media analyst Vasily Gatov, visiting fellow at the Center of Communication Leadership and Policy, University of Southern California, explains the origins of the Russian propaganda and Putin’s anti-Western narrative.

    As consumption of mass media has increased dramatically in modern times, outscoring all other human habits in absorbing hours and minutes of life, the idea of “information weaponry” has become a kind of banality. Propaganda, framing, agenda setting, and dozens of other armaments have been recognized since 1921, when Walter Lippmann first described the mechanics of mass media influence over public opinion. He was followed by the “father of public relations,” Edward Bernays, who formulated the tools and secrets of the propaganda trade and laid the groundwork for huge tribes of later propagandists.

    Winding the clock forward, we can see how propaganda and mass media helped, if not formed, the initial success of the Nazi Party in Germany. We can see how Stalin brainwashed the whole population of the largest country in the world. We can observe the total propaganda assault of Mao Zedong’s Cultural Revolution, and its cruel policy of censorship. We must acknowledge, too, that Bernays’ colleagues and followers in the propaganda profession made large contributions to these “information wars” as well.

    Starting in 1917, a Soviet narrative appeared that was ideological, Marxist, and aggressive; it offered a story of the proletarian fight for freedom and equality, while redefining freedom in an Orwellian way, as a subjection of individual interests to the class’s interests. The Soviet narrative was quickly recognized as a dangerous weapon by many Western governments. During the first half of the twentieth century, the countermeasures taken against it could be disgusting and cruel. During the Red Scare the United States persecuted and deported thousands of European socialists and communists who had fled their home continent. Those who embraced the communist narrative were massacred in Spain under Franco’s regime. Every Western country persecuted leftists one way or another as they strove to fight the possible dangers of subversion. Later in the century, these countries shifted to the more advanced and “soft” weapons in their arsenal, including those designed to allow the West to infiltrate Soviet territory and affect Russia’s domestic situation (measures that were, in fact, a response to the USSR’s attempts to infiltrate and influence the Western public sphere).

    In 1991, an important turning point occurred with the collapse of the USSR and the consequent dismissal of one of the major wielders of “information weaponry.” Clearly, support for the Soviet narrative had also collapsed. Meanwhile, there was (and still continues to be) a major discussion on whether the confrontation of narratives occasioned by the Cold War transformed the nature of the mass media in the West; the 1998 Herman and Chomsky treatise Manufacturing Consent offered a structured model of this mutation. The purpose of this article is not to argue with the propaganda model or reinforce its legacy, but rather to offer a different angle on the model that comes from observations of the recent changes in the current Russian narrative and its tools of war.

    The New Old Narrative

    1991 is so important in this context because the date symbolizes the defeat of an organized Soviet narrative. It would be totally misguided to say that communist ideas about the utopian nature of the “just” society that would overturn exploitation of the masses were only promoted by Russians. The “natural left” has always existed, and there are still many who support this ideology, but what happened in August of 1991 marks the end of the funding that was previously made available to those who supported this narrative. It is unlikely that we will ever have the chance to expose the full scale of Soviet investment in this cause, not only because those archives are still classified, but also because this investment was diverse, delivered through many channels, including the governments of the USSR’s various client-states. One thing is certain: this was a well-funded system, built around the twin aims of aggression and submission.

    The West, in response, crafted its own system to counter Soviet propaganda and wage its own campaign. Unlike the USSR, where ideology was the top priority of the governing party, Western countries needed a lot of organizational engineering to get their systems up and running. It was a difficult task for them, as most governments in the West were either legally prohibited from owning mass media outlets or were very limited in their access to and control of editorial policy (which was necessary to disperse the messages and other narrative elements that would counteract the Russian effort).

    To put the record straight, a revanchist part of the Russian political elite (the same elite that Putin later decided to join and lead) interpreted 1991 as the “illegitimate victory” of the West. This narrative was never mainstream in the Russian public sphere, but it has always been present there.

    Yet the system was built in the West, and it played a distinctive role in the end of the USSR and the fall of the Eastern bloc. There is no doubt the Soviet Union fell victim to many factors, including self-inflicted damage. What is interesting—and, to an extent, the key to the present-day conflict in the media space—is how much the West’s counternarrative (or so-called “active measures” against the USSR) really affected the Western mass media, as well as Western education, ethics, communication, and values, and transformed it into what Chomsky portrayed as an evil factory of consent.

    When Vladimir Putin first outlined the framework of a new Russian narrative in his Munich Speech in 2007, it came as a surprise to policymakers—but not to policy experts. The Russian public sphere had never let go of the 1991 defeat. The first step in understanding what happened is to look at the various interpretations of the USSR’s collapse. While the West largely agreed that the Soviet empire was destroyed by its own internal controversies, policy mistakes, and economic inefficiency, some Russians viewed the collapse as an inspired, treacherous coup d’état by the United States and their allies. In their opinion, the defeat was “illegitimate,” as the Soviet Union was not crushed militarily but collapsed as a result of a secret operation, when the converted leaders of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) “capitulated” and surrendered to the “world hegemon.” This is a twisted logic, but without explanation of its origin one can hardly understand Putin’s sorrow over and lament for the “tragic finale” of the USSR and the alleged humiliation of the Soviet nation that followed.

    To put the record straight, a revanchist part of the Russian political elite (the same elite that Putin later decided to join and lead) interpreted 1991 as the “illegitimate victory” of the West. This group embraced a worldview centered on the idea of a U.S.-led plot that successfully established Mikhail Gorbachev as General Secretary of the CPSU; persuaded him to retreat from “the Soviet sphere of influence”; weakened Soviet military power; and eventually opened the door to a cabal of crooks who seized control, dismantled the USSR, and threw the nation into despair.

    This narrative was never mainstream in the Russian public sphere, but it has always been present there. Once again, the central idea of this narrative is “illegitimate victory and consequent humiliation.” With this structure as a centerpiece, the idea then interprets every following event—whether political, military, or even cultural—as proof of the plot and the “criminal intentions” of a West that still aims to discover other means of humiliating the country.

    When Russian privatization was carried out under the guidance of Harvard advisers, the promoters of this narrative immediately interpreted their presence as proof of the United States’ intention to purchase the assets of Russian companies cheaply and destroy the country’s economy. When the West neglected Russian public opinion on the Yugoslav Wars (regardless of the real reasons for that neglect), this same group saw its disregard as further reinforcement of the humiliation hypothesis. Russians perceived the Dayton agreements as an attack on the Serbs; the handling of Kosovo in the following years deepened Russian resentment of Western ignorance of some important “red lines” (supposedly drawn sometime in the 1870s and neglected ever since but revived when it became necessary to justify Russia’s presence in the Balkans). When NATO used its power to quell Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic, the promoters of the Soviet narrative used the event as an additional argument to bolster their hypothesis of the humiliation and aggression that the United States was plotting for Russia.

    The abovementioned part of the Russian elite used every real (or imaginary) incident to strengthen its conspiracy theory. By the time of Putin’s Munich speech, this narrative had become sufficiently powerful to become a national narrative. The Russian president did nothing different from what other populist leaders do: he took control of and publicized this narrative under his own name.

    Continued.......

  2. #182
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    http://imrussia.org/en/analysis/poli...ption-part-two

    Weapons of Mass Deception. Part Two

    17 June 2015 Vasily Gatov

    In part one of his essay, prominent Russian media analyst Vasily Gatov explained the origins of Putin’s anti-Western narrative and the current Russian propaganda campaign. In this second installment, he focuses on the twisted logic behind this narrative and the mistakes of the West, and he provides recommendations on how to counter the Kremlin’s offensive.

    Launching an Offensive Against the West

    There is another side of the story that I merely touched on at the beginning of this article. By 2007, the West had very mixed feelings about Russia, as did Russians. Those mixed feelings were communicated through the mass media. Some opinions expressed in the mass media on Russia and Russian politics (as well as on Putin personally) were critical, while some were neutral and some positive. Overall, Russia received the treatment from global media that it deserved—it was portrayed as a large, diverse, transitional country with nuclear power, a questionable democracy, apparent corruption, and a lack of soft power that at the same is both interesting and rich.

    The Western press did display one bias that can hardly be denied: it described Russia in a much more critical way than Russians would have liked, especially when it focused on one particular Russian—President Vladimir Putin.

    The question remains of whether the Western press has really been diverted by the perils of the Cold War to become a tool of the capitalist governments carrying out a century-long operation against Mother Russia (regardless of who governs it). When you approach this issue with the twisted logic of the elite narrativists mentioned earlier, you are doomed to discover all the elements of an orchestrated, manipulative campaign. It’s hard to argue with this position, as it is bolstered by “evidence” that runs the gamut from fake quotes by Winston Churchill to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a fabricated historical document that has been largely used to support numerous conspiracy theories. But by looking deeper, one can see the difference of perception: while Russian people and their leaders suffer from what they perceive as humiliation, Western media view this perception only as a subject of reporting and publishing opinions.

    The new Russian narrative has developed since 2007, and it continues to expand, feeding on every action (or lack thereof) of the Western governments. Through Russian communication channels (including foreign propaganda such as RT, domestic state-controlled media, and top-level diplomacy), U.S. foreign policy is presented as a lasting diabolic plot aimed at dismantling Russia. Everything feeds this narrative. Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria; the ISIS threat; the development of private spaceflight companies; fracking; the Internet, social networks; iPhones; Hollywood; the U.S. higher education system, which lures in the best students from all over the world—all these, according to the twisted logic of many Russians, are undeniable “facts” that prove the existence of a U.S. conspiracy against Russia.

    However, it is hard to explain why, until recently, Russia seemed to have tolerated U.S. global dominance and the American government’s cruel plot. It is even harder to explain why Russia now demands approval of and respect for its policies (e.g., the annexation of Crimea and its proxy war in eastern Ukraine) from the United States if it views the latter as such an aggressor.

    The charge of waging this new narrative has inevitably returned Russia to the former Soviet communications policy of pervasive propaganda, whether open or covert. The difference is that the Soviet weapons were loaded with possibly deadly communist ideas designed to combat the unlimited, wild capitalism of the 1920s. Today, the Russian weapons of information warfare are loaded with deception. Communism offered a dream of universal equality and the just distribution of wealth. Russia today relies on concussive weaponry that aims to damage the messaging system of the Western democracies. When RT adopts the slogan “Question more,” does it imply that the public should question the government more, and if so, on what subject? The Communist narrative was bound to the crucial issues of the society; Putin’s narrative, appropriated to undermine the Western worldview, aims to discredit the very concept of truth and interfere with public opinion.

    Most importantly, some (if not all) weapons Russia employs target the Russian audience, too. Putin’s narrative is the only one that dominates the national mass media, and even though his critics spend a lot of time trying to expose the deceptive nature of this view, by spending so much time and effort on this task, they actually expand the narrative, giving more authority to Putin’s distorted worldview.

    “Arsenal of Democracy”

    Western media bodies, like the Broadcasting Board of Governors in the United States or the BBC World service in the United Kingdom, seem inept when it comes to Russia, as they also spend a lot of time “explaining the truth” and arguing with the Kremlin’s worldview. Instead of taking proactively steps, they only respond to Russian information attacks, merely hoping that their antidote of “the truth” will work before the Kremlin’s lies poison the overriding narrative.

    As Western culture is increasingly predisposed toward self-reflection, the poisoning of the narrative induces a discussion of “What has the West done wrong with Russia?” The mistakes of the West with regard to Russia were many, and there’s no time machine that will allow these countries to go back and retroactively correct them. The lessons of history should provide guidelines for the West to not repeat these mistakes. However, the question remains: Why does Russia repeatedly cause the West and particularly the United States to fail to build a successful bilateral relationship?


    Ideally, the Kremlin should be ignored. The West has to adopt a sort of news boycott on Russian events (or, even better, opinion editors might agree to declare a kind of boycott on “Russian issues”).

    Sometimes loaded words speak louder than anything else. Putin doesn’t wish to hit a playback button and return Milosevic to Belgrade or resurrect Saddam Hussein. Nor does he mean that the European Union and NATO have to expel the Eastern European states. His core message is—and has been since the early days of his leadership—"Don’t mess with my personal political dominance, don’t challenge me at home, and don’t foster political and civic powers that can offer an alternative to me." Scared by the Ukrainian uprising in 2004, and shocked by the Arab Spring, Putin consolidated all the media power at his disposal and fired a cannonade at the West that can be boiled down to the following message: “Stay away from my domain and my people.” It was a turning point: Putin lost control of the narrative. From that moment on, the narrative took control of him, as it did with millions of Russians who were overexposed to this loud outcry.

    The arsenals of the media war are growing on both sides. Russia is a favorite target of U.S. hawkish conservatives, who represent a remnant of the Cold War mentality (although there is truth to their concerns: Russia still possesses a large nuclear arsenal and thus theoretically poses a threat to U.S. security). Furthermore, the Russian government supports illiberal, sometimes xenophobic social attitudes and values, which exposes it to criticisms from the left. Putin’s Russia returned to the logic of “spheres of influence,” a stance that frightens former Soviet client-states and neighbors. Western politicians have started campaigns to reduce the power of Russian interests abroad and have offered support to the opposition in Moscow. Journalists have flooded the Western media with stories revealing the regime’s alleged and real crimes. In describing the new Russian/Putin threat, columnists have invoked the language last used by Sen. Joseph McCarthy during the Red Scare. Most, if not all, of this retaliation is justified and sincere. People in the West see the aggression projected from Moscow. But in the Kremlin’s eyes, the retaliation certainly looks orchestrated by someone in the White House or the State Department.

    Under these circumstances, the West should realize that it is time for, to quote Roosevelt, the deployment of the “arsenal of democracy.” But the worst thing for the West would be to fire back at Russians using the same weapons that the Kremlin has employed. Telling the truth about Russian woes, including those that derive from corruption, is not a solution either. Investigations must be conducted and exposés must be published by Russian journalists and concerned citizens. Demonization of Putin by the Western media will continue to be ineffective, as it is perceived as a form of treachery and further triggers the feeling of national humiliation.

    While it may feel terribly unjust and offensive to the West to be a target of a propaganda campaign that spreads lies, the only sensible response is avoidance of any escalation of conflict. Indeed, Putin’s dominant narrative needs to be countered—but when the Western states imposed sanctions against Russian individuals and companies last year following Russia’s involvement in the Ukraine crisis, this measure was the single most effective action that fed the aggression narrative. When Western media joined the leaders of their countries in mocking Putin as a crook, they only added fuel to the fire.

    Continued.......

  3. #183
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    18/06/2015

    South-Eastern Ukraine: the “Baked Alaska Conflict”

    by Mark Galeotti

    What can we call the miserable, simmering-occasionally-boiling-over war in south-eastern Ukraine? While writing something for a Serious Publication, I came up with the analogy of the baked alaska. For those of you who don't know this delightful dessert, it's ice cream on a cake base, covered with meringue which is then quickly cooked. Now, there is nothing delightful about the Donbass war, but the baked alaska does give us a useful simile even if one which, for wholly understandable reasons, the Serious Publication thought seems a little too light-hearted for such a bloody and miserable conflict.

    I can't see Minsk-2 or any other initiatives leading to a meaningful political settlement and the region's reintegration into Ukraine for some time yet. But nor do I see a plausible "Crimean variant" with the Donbass incorporated into Russia. So, at heart, the conflict is already frozen.

    At the same time, though, Moscow and its local proxies/puppets/allies (at different times, they have different roles, and we ought not to forget that they have a worrying degree of agency themselves) have adopted and will probably maintain a strategy of tension. At the borders of the region they control, we see constant small- and medium-scale attacks intended both to put pressure on Kiev and also as a form of political "reconnaissance by fire". While a major offensive of the sort that would lead in all probability to an increase in the sanctions regime may be unlikely, if they see an opportunity for smaller-scale, local advances, they they can gladly exploit it. Again, I don't see this changing.

    Frozen at heart, decidedly hot at the edges: I give you the "baked alaska conflict."

  4. #184
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    4

    Default

    Outlaw09

    Just got off work, and caught your reply.

    Clear and concise, and understood.

    I will do some digging, maybe recent history of the former USSR satellite countries, and their current relationships to Russia. I pay attention to SME's, it's clear I am lacking enough background knowledge to have an informed opinion on the bigger picture in Ukraine.

    Thanks for the reply.

  5. #185
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Blissful View Post
    Outlaw09

    Just got off work, and caught your reply.

    Clear and concise, and understood.

    I will do some digging, maybe recent history of the former USSR satellite countries, and their current relationships to Russia. I pay attention to SME's, it's clear I am lacking enough background knowledge to have an informed opinion on the bigger picture in Ukraine.

    Thanks for the reply.
    Blissfull--try Googling for info on Russian mafia, Russian corruption and Russian criminal gangs as a starter.

    Then shift to the area of say how did Poland make the transition even though they have not joined the Euro zone--- economically they are moving forward well.

    What is more interesting is checking just how the Baltics came through this last financial crisis.

    Any more questions--just ask.

    The key though to all of this is fully understanding the Russian use of information warfare and they are using it in ways even I have not seen before and it is effective.

  6. #186
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    BATTLE FOOTAGE #Ukraine troops "persuading" #Putin forces to vacate a house https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1sf1vGWxjA … pic.twitter.com/YHAL33QIpe

    This early morning abt 03:13 #Popasna Cheryomushki micro-ds was shelled. http://m.vk.com/wall-59104429_217705?offset=50 … pic.twitter.com/wdKeDdutzL

    In sector M overnight #Shyrokyne was shelled with 152-mm artillery and #Chermalyk with 120-mm mortars.

    Kanygin is one near #Borodai showing V sign. That's the whole Russia in it - https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/sta...13878544748544
    Oppositionists talking of 'Russian Crimea', 'independent' journos joyfully meeting terrorists.

    Donetsk 6:07AM
    From the area of mine-29 artillery firing towards #Marinka https://twitter.com/relictDon/status/611732033291853828

    #Donetsk 5:58AM
    Budyonnovsky ds - One can hear very distant occasional heavy shots. A little vibration in the air https://twitter.com/UrriKara4en/stat...30350763569153

    Stakhanov 2:03AM
    "Constant hum, cannot understand fr what"
    "Shells fly"
    "Can be convoy of military equipment" https://twitter.com/samotniyvovk/sta...70658888634368

  7. #187
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Donetsk 15 minutes after shelling russian propagandist Graham fiblips was already on scene to film the desired video http://sprotyv.info/ru/news/kiev/15-...tter&_utl_t=tw

    Russia warns of 'risks' should #Sweden join #NATO > http://www.thelocal.se/20150618/russ...eden-join-nato … #föpol

    US citizen fighting with Russian mercenaries—will he be arrested as a terrorist upon returning to US?????
    youtube.com/watch?v=RlUOKR18g-A … 'Texas' ☭ recalls what happened to #Russians firing at #DonetskAirport fr MONASTERY. pic.twitter.com/8VigdxWRWF

    Vladimir #Putin's confrontation with West 'artificial' says dissident Mikhail Khodorkovsky http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/47717625.cms

    A fascinating long read about the agile armies of Russian Internet trolls: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/ma...=tw-share&_r=3 … (by @AdrianChen)

    A #Winning #Strategy For #Ukraine | @todayszamancom http://www.todayszaman.com/op-ed_a-w...ne_388403.html

    Ten battalions of Airborne Troops are ready to immediately perform combat missions in Russia and abroad - Shamanov http://www.militarynews.ru/Story.asp?rid=1&nid=380219

    As a remedy against Western sanctions, Putin decided to give coffee for free to all Russians. (Next phase is vodka.) https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/sta...98200822861826

  8. #188
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    AND Russia really really really really wants Minsk 2 to be fulfilled BUT then this:

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    @OSCE_SMM reports their UAV attacked by pro-RU militants. Another UAV jammed by sophisticated mil equipment.

    Russian-led illegal armed groups fire at OSCE observation drone near Mariupol
    .
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/165111 … pic.twitter.com/p8BFW0RXRI

    OSCE observes modern radar-tracking unit in Russian-controlled Luhansk region of Ukraine.
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/165111 … pic.twitter.com/abHrr92h1d

    Russia again blocks expansion of #OSCE border observation - READ: http://1.usa.gov/1JWWSOc pic.twitter.com/wEjhzY43T8

  9. #189
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    New Russian Air Force Tu-214R spy plane tracked as it flew close to the border with Ukraine. http://theaviationist.com/2015/06/18...ng-the-border/ … pic.twitter.com/MwMTzFR7w5

    probably not operational even though the route seems to suggest they are testing some new sensor in a real scenario..
    flightradar24.com/LX9201/68f3592 pic.twitter.com/fsMo4z9r4b

  10. #190
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Putin and his FM has tended to act as if Russia is above the rule of law and both seem to also be in denial of what contracts, court decisions and seizures all have in common.

    After the Swedish ruling on Yukos Russia had a set time to respond--they simply did not respond thus the court moved to seize--everyone with a credit card knows how the failure to pay a debt works--seems the Russians do not.

    Initially there is a 50B USD court seizure order with another 100B USD Yukos outstanding decision coming and it will also go against Russia.

    On top of all that Russian companies have a total of 100B USDs in company bond debt coming due the second half of 2015 and a large number of them will not be paid back--thus more court decisions and seizures are coming at Russia.

    So 150B USD due for Yukos--and another 100B USD due on company bonds equals 250B USD--just about all of their strategic foreign currency reserves would be destroyed.

    No wonder they are over reacting----

    Russian fury at Belgium asset seizure in Yukos oil case - BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33197782

    Moscow will respond reciprocally to seizure of its assets abroad - Lavrov http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2015/...seizure-of-its … pic.twitter.com/s1ZiJAc3NR via @RT_com

  11. #191
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Zuhres @roootik In the morning there were also 4 T-72 on flatbed [trucks] and 1 Uragan

    Zuhres @roootik [This night] besides tanks there were also light track and wheel vehicles (they didn't count it)

    two RF railway stations, Matveev Kurgan and Pokrovskaya are preparing 2 trains with mil equip for DPR https://twitter.com/dneprcity/status/611808413954260993

    Militants shelled Popasna with "Grad": one soldier wounded pic.twitter.com/Mceeq8ZxWE http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...oldier-wounded

    Part of militant infantry was destroyed near Zolote pic.twitter.com/FxUvRRCJND http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...ed-near-zolote

    In occupied Donetsk do not subside volleys: the bombardments of residential areas pic.twitter.com/VmGG26GD5i http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...e-bombardments

    When the US cannot and or will not provide drones to the Ukraine then their civil society crowdsources them.
    Ukraine's crowdfunded military drone
    https://youtu.be/CK4myw8PQKk

  12. #192
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Three persons detained in Stanytsia Luhanska; their 3 AK assault rifles, Makarov pistol, 196 ammunition rounds confiscated.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    SBU operatives confiscated F-1 grenades, 5.45mm ammo, RPG-7 rockets hidden in the cache next to Ukrainian military station

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian border guard spotted 8 flights of enemy UAVs

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Luhansk sector: Militants fired from Grad multiple rocket launchers by Novotoshkivske; used 120mm mortars near Zolote & Popasna

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Donetsk sector: enemy snipers active, militants used 120mm mortars. Shelled residential residential dstrcts of Vodyane from 122mm artillery

    8am this morning Ukr pos. in Shyrokyne fired upon from AGS, RPGs, SPGs. Few terrorists killed on return fire - AZOV
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...91&__tn__=%2As

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Mariupol sector: Fighting persisted in Shyrokyne. Militants fired from 152mm artillery 3 times; provocation by Chermalyk

    Yesterday I saw at flea market in #Donetsk. pic.twitter.com/ujogtRgVLm

    Already identified by social media as being in eastern Ukraine---
    Nice pic of the 9K333 Verba MANPADS - KBM says it is now available for foreign customers. pic.twitter.com/SlLKpvO8wt

    People in #Donetsk attempted to gather for protest meeting again at admin building but were dispersed http://www.ostro.org/general/society/news/473222/ … via @ostro_v

    Second such demo in the last week--seems those so called ethnic Russian Ukrainians are growing tired of their "liberators".

  13. #193
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    PHOTO Russian #Airforce Tu-95MS #10 [RF-94128] «Saratov» with new #Missile pylons for Kh-101/102 ALCM. «Armiya-2015» pic.twitter.com/i7ZWTlhtui

  14. #194
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Ah....the beauty of the "rule of law" when it is applied correctly and fairly--Russia loses in a court of law, Russian ignores that court because they as Russia feel above the law, then Russian assets get seized THEN complains bitterly about needing an international law to protect her assets?????

    Nothing like double standards--YET Russia claims to be a democratic state.

    Russia's Hybrid War Tentacles Chopped off in France and Belgium
    http://uatoday.tv/opinion/russia-s-h...um-442236.html … pic.twitter.com/YQsDobmryV

    Lavrov promises a "mirror response to Europe", in revenge of RU's assets being seized by courts around EU. The new "Mutual Seizure Doctrine"

    Lavrov hopes courts will allow seizure in Russia of state property of countries that ta http://24today.net/open/448337 pic.twitter.com/NTxkYqmtfJ

    I'm not adherent of conspiracies" -says Lavrov, then says assets seizures are NATO "punishing" Russia for Ukraine
    http://top.rbc.ru/politics/19/06/201...79473579b4bc6b

    For Min Lavrov sees conspiracy in Rus state property arrest & appeals to internat convention in its defense: Irony. http://top.rbc.ru/politics/19/06/201...79473579b4bc6b

    Kremlin threatens to steal Belgian embassy in RU, if Belgium doesn't INTERFERE in court system to release RU assets" http://www.rusemb.org.uk/foreignpolicy/3211

    Russia demands $75 million from #Ukraine, saying it will win time to pay off other creditors & avoid default http://sputniknews.com/business/2015...023570791.html

    Russia's foreign minister reminds Europe that freezing assets can go both ways. https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/19...sets-in-europe
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 06-19-2015 at 12:38 PM.

  15. #195
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Russian equivalent of hacking Twitter---it is equally as effective and it seems Twitter was caught off guard about the ability.

    A massive bot net of fake account keeps swamping the above hastags with nonsense at about 150 tweets/minute & @twitter @Support does nothing

    If you want to see how incompetent @twitter security @support is: check out live feeds of #Украина #Крым #крым #Донбас #Донецк #Луганск.

  16. #196
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Rally in the center of Donetsk against occupying "government". http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...inst-occupying

    Statement of Russia about new missiles has an irritant effect - Nuland pic.twitter.com/akdLrC4j9M http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...ve-an-irritant

    ATO: Militants attack Ukrainian troops 90 times overnight http://www.unian.info/war/1091302-at...overnight.html

    To #Aleksandrivka RU reinforcements arrived, 70-80 fighters at 1PM. To Petrovka 4 Ural trucks arrived, unknown cargo https://twitter.com/felixsteal/statu...61766872662016

    In German—well done analysis of the so called leaked Russian General Staff invasion plan for the Ukraine.
    Analyse der Dokumente des Generalstabs Russlands zur Besetzung der Ukraine. - http://InformNapalm.org ... http://fb.me/7zw4SZ9pc

    Battalion "Tornado" will appeal against the arrest of the commander of a company pic.twitter.com/knzb70OQeE http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...nst-the-arrest

    Tornado batt. was given a deadline to lay down arms or their base might be stormed.
    170 fighters barricaded there. https://twitter.com/EspresoTV/status/611863912351268868

  17. #197
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    War - always advancing technology in the countries involved... good video report about #Ukraine's drone development. https://twitter.com/ItsBorys/status/611837781480972288

    Volunteers and troops in #Ukraine building drones and putting bombs on drones
    A video I made for VICE
    .
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CK4myw8PQKk

    A member of the terrorist group "Communist revolutionaries" was detained in Odessa pic.twitter.com/049fPkoOK0 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/19-june...evolutionaries

    Rafael Lusvarghi – "I am a great fan of Alexander Dugin" - in Brazil and in "Novorossia" now
    http://translate.google.com.ua/trans...-e&prev=search … pic.twitter.com/w5tsczd8xX

    Serb merceanry in the Donbass---
    No, this is not serbian mercenary Dejan Beric, but a local "miner/tractor driver" in #Donetsk http://informator.lg.ua/?p=99009 pic.twitter.com/QhKB8D8o9H

    Shyrokyno is under constant russian fire from virtually all available weapons.
    1 Azov fighter WIA.
    #Mariupol https://twitter.com/InfoResist/statu...73863836807168

    Why does the Donetsk Chemical Factory constantly have mega explosions and craters?
    http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.de/2015...l-factory.html … pic.twitter.com/hGSyqqCcQu

    Russian neo-Nazis in #Donetsk in search of the holy grail. (RNU) ������ pic.twitter.com/LUaU2v0jfb

    Poll numbers on what Russians believe belongs to Russia-----
    Here are the numbers that should actually concern Russia's neighbors: http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/pew-s...ell-in-russia/ … pic.twitter.com/2ckGCFYnSI

    NATO Secretary General: Russia has transferred well over 1,000 pieces of heavy equipment to...
    http://www.unian.info/war/1091468-na...paratists.html … pic.twitter.com/greNIuAi4i
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 06-19-2015 at 12:59 PM.

  18. #198
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Ah....the beauty of the "rule of law" when it is applied correctly and fairly--Russia loses in a court of law, Russian ignores that court because they as Russia feel above the law, then Russian assets get seized THEN complains bitterly about needing an international law to protect her assets?????

    Nothing like double standards--YET Russia claims to be a democratic state.

    Russia's Hybrid War Tentacles Chopped off in France and Belgium
    http://uatoday.tv/opinion/russia-s-h...um-442236.html … pic.twitter.com/YQsDobmryV

    Lavrov promises a "mirror response to Europe", in revenge of RU's assets being seized by courts around EU. The new "Mutual Seizure Doctrine"

    Lavrov hopes courts will allow seizure in Russia of state property of countries that ta http://24today.net/open/448337 pic.twitter.com/NTxkYqmtfJ

    I'm not adherent of conspiracies" -says Lavrov, then says assets seizures are NATO "punishing" Russia for Ukraine
    http://top.rbc.ru/politics/19/06/201...79473579b4bc6b

    For Min Lavrov sees conspiracy in Rus state property arrest & appeals to internat convention in its defense: Irony. http://top.rbc.ru/politics/19/06/201...79473579b4bc6b

    Kremlin threatens to steal Belgian embassy in RU, if Belgium doesn't INTERFERE in court system to release RU assets" http://www.rusemb.org.uk/foreignpolicy/3211

    Russia demands $75 million from #Ukraine, saying it will win time to pay off other creditors & avoid default http://sputniknews.com/business/2015...023570791.html

    Russia's foreign minister reminds Europe that freezing assets can go both ways. https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/19...sets-in-europe
    And the saga continues………

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: Our answer to seizing Russian property abroad will be reciprocity. This is the only way to act on the international stage


    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: They have not released the accounts of state-owned Russian companies only

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: In France, they seized the accounts of our embassy, our mission to #UNESCO and our trade mission. But they have backed off

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: At this stage, we are working to secure the release of our diplomatic missions’ accounts @amrusbel

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    #Lavrov: They have taken the same illegal step in Belgium by announcing the seizure of our diplomatic missions’ accounts @amrusbel

  19. #199
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    There is something to this comment--as Russia has attempted to engage the US in a "new Yalta agreement".

    .@MunSecConf Wolfgang Ischinger at @GLOBSEC “Russia can’t imagine the world without spheres of influences" pic.twitter.com/oKhMyNvDvA

  20. #200
    Council Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    35,749

    Default

    If anyone fully understands Orwellian double speak then these are great examples.

    Putin on Minsk peace: We have put our signature on these documents and we will seek their implementation but we cannot do it alone.

    Seeking implementation is not the same thing as actual implementation----especially since Ptuin transferred over 1000 pieces of heavy weapons into eastern Ukraine AND he has no “influence”…?

    Another great example:

    Putin reminds that his main security concern is not NATO expansion, but US missile defence shield plans. Says risk sparking a new arms race

    BUT was it not both Putin and Lavrov that repeatedly stated –it was the NATO expansion that caused all of the problems—so now it was not NATO expansion………?

    Putin is deeply afraid of a true new arms race as that is what caused the Soviet Union to break apart in the first place along with a fall in oil prices--both we now have ongoing.

Similar Threads

  1. How effective have Arab armies been at 'small wars'?
    By davidbfpo in forum Middle East
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01-10-2014, 10:57 AM
  2. War is War
    By Michael C in forum Futurists & Theorists
    Replies: 101
    Last Post: 10-09-2010, 06:23 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •