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Thread: Ukraine: Russo-Ukr War (June-December 2015)

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    Some confusion among Russian info warriors it appears----


    RT bimbo at #IranNuclearDeal rally said RT doesn't stand for Russia Today & that RT is just a "bunch of young people" w/no Russia ties.

    This is the #RT propagandist at today's #IranNuclearDeal protest in DC who denied any RT ties to #Russia. pic.twitter.com/F33UFESfmk

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    Civilians who support Ukrainian Army get executed in Russian-controlled Donbas - UN Report http://24today.net/open/523460

    1 militant attack was registred between 6pm & midnight on 9Sep. Militants used grenade launcher, small arms S of Avdiivka - ATO press center

    The night was quiet in #Krasnohorivka, in #Maryinka there was occasional shooting with small arms. https://twitter.com/hyeva_maryinka/s...34719269793792

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    Reference the debate on the high Russian loses in the Ukraine that many do not believe—maybe graveyard size might be helpful---

    During the past year, Militant cemetery in Donetsk has grown 3 times bigger
    http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/donet...y--648162.html … pic.twitter.com/lOOd6gKZVm

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    A Russian soldier's mother visited #Maidan & apologised to an Ukrainian army nurse:"Sorry for what my boy did. We can't stop our president."

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    OSCE: Three Ukrainian soldiers abducted by 10 people in military uniforms in two cars
    http://www.unian.info/politics/11207...-two-cars.html … pic.twitter.com/NVkr1VVdl4

    More images of #Russia new military base under construction near #Ukraine border pic.twitter.com/tl6uNOu6B2

    construction started on #Russia military base near #Ukraine Border workers erecting fencing http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-ukrain...border-2089428 … pic.twitter.com/cM9pbwJ4gI

    Col. Motuzyanyk: Arsenal was found in Shchastya town: 20 grenade launchers, grenades, TNT & more than 2,000 rounds were confiscated

    ATO spox: SBU detained militants` informant: working as an electrician in the Donetsk region, he was collecting intel of UA Army movements

    ATO spox: 2 former members of militants were detained: one of them was serving as a tanker in the ranks of a so-called “DPR Army”

    Col. Oleksandr Motuzyanyk: Mariupol sector: no single hostile armed provocation was recorded

    Col. Motuzyanyk: 1 UA serviceman was wounded to the east of Maryinka as a result of hostile attack with grenade launchers and small arms

    ATO spokesperson: Donetsk sector: 2 episodes of cease-fire violation by militants were recorded in last 24 hours

    ATO spox: Hostile bomb wounded a woman living in Stanytsia Luhanska

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    http://joinfo.com/world/1008311_revo...en-expert.html

    Revolution in DPR means that Kremlin gives up on Donbas and conflict will be frozen – expert

    Russia does not need the Donbas, but the return of the so-called DPR and LPR to Ukraine is not profitable, too. The conflict will be frozen, says the Donetsk blogger and journalist Denis Kazansky.

    According to Kazansky, for Ukraine it will be profitable to freeze the conflict in the Donbas, Joinfo.ua reports with reference to the channel 24.

    “For us, the conflict freeze is profitable. It is not profitable for us to take these territories back to Ukraine and pretend that we control them. They are occupied, it is possible to seek their return only by means of international diplomacy,” he said.

    The journalist also said that the return of the unrecognized republics to Ukraine can be compared with a transplantation of the appendix in the body of a healthy person: they will get sick and die. “Russia’s plan has long been known, it was discussed by the speakers of the Kremlin. For example, Starikov believes that the Donbas is a weight on Ukraine’s leg. That is, Russia can keep Ukraine on a leash in such a way,” said the blogger.

    Commenting on the developments of the so-called coup d’etat in the DPR, Kazansky said that there was a version that the ex-head of the “People’s Council” Andrey Purgin did not serve the Moscow curators’ turn, and Denis Pushilin himself could not arrange such a scandalous event.

    “There is a version that Purgin wanted to organize a referendum in the DPR for accession to Russia. They say that ballots were already printed. He traveled to Russia to negotiate with the ‘hawks’ who are supporters of accession of the ‘DPR’ to Russia. And this was at odds with the policies of the Kremlin,” Kazansky said.

    According to the journalist, Russia does not need the Donbas, this issue has been resolved a long time ago.

    “There is another problem – Purgin was sick with the idea of the LPR and DPR and their accession to Russia. He was planning to create this republic back in 2005, when no one was even paying for it. He promoted the idea when it was considered as schizophrenia. As for Pushilin – he is a petty crook, who is far from separatism, he came only when he realized that he can make money at it. It is a perfect doer, because he does not discuss the orders, ” the blogger added.

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    Russian propaganda had hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russian speaking Ukrainians fleeing to Russia during the first six months of the fighting there and they were constantly claiming a human disaster ie genocide was occurring.

    Now barely a year later seems that they all but vanished back in the Ukraine proper as IDPs---so much for the glory land Russia being their new home.

    Julian Rpcke @JulianRoepcke
    Looks like we talk about a couple of hundred to few thousand Ukr refugees in Russia.
    Not 260.000 as claimed earlier.
    https://twitter.com/MannfredNikolai/...43070082883584

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    In the interesting if true column;
    Russian proxies in E #Ukraine ready to conduct election due to UA legislation -RU MF #Lavrov
    http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/donet...ov-648407.html … pic.twitter.com/tGR0EZrgu8

    Rape in wartorn #Ukraine - UN report documents sexual abuse
    http://uatoday.tv/crime/rape-in-wart...se-491173.html

    So to defend Russian honor from rape charges Russia announces the following;
    In the meantime, #Russia officially blames #Ukrainian officials for committing genocide
    https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/09/10...tting-genocide

    Crazy man Mikhail Delyagin says US embassy in Moscow is building a 4-story underground bunker to guard against US rocket attacks on Russia.

    Here's the link for the Delyagin conspiracy theory. http://delyagin.ru/news/88381-posols...ogo-udara.html

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    Reference Moldavia—a good article on what is happening there now.

    Waiting for a New Moldova - by @Judy_Dempsey
    http://carnegieeurope.eu/strategiceurope/?fa=61247 … pic.twitter.com/1GWJL8J9SP

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    Knew there was a catch to the Russian offer---to negotiate with the Russian mercenaries directly gives the direct impression that they were the legal power to be in the Donbass—Not the Russian military that actively invaded the Ukraine and annexed Crimea.

    If they cannot agree on the mercenary and Russian side to pull back weapons of 100mm and less THAT they themselves proposed WHO really believes that once the Ukraine starts talking to them directly THEY will actually follow through on this—when they have never fulfilled a single point of Minsk 2.

    Lavrov: Ukraine must negotiate with DNR/LNR directly, and they will agree on local elections under Ukrainian law and OSCE.

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    More Russian threats----first Bulgaria and now Sweden again--------second time in last than 1.5 months.

    MFA Russia ‏@mfa_russia
    #Zakharova: Sweden’s accession to #NATO would have military & political implications requiring #Russia to take retaliatory steps @RusEmbSwe


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    Russia wants more patrols along the demarcation line but will not allow OSCE to monitor the entire Russian/Ukrainian border just two crossing points.

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Moscow calls on the OSCE to intensify Special Monitoring Mission patrols along the line of contact in Donbass - http://goo.gl/VI5Orm

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    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Risks of disruption of gas supplies to Ukraine’s Donbas in winter still quite high - http://goo.gl/cZPbuQ

    NOT sure why there would be a disruption as Russia has been sending the gas directly to them??????

    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    Embarrassing: Even Kadyrov dismisses Moscow claims #Ukraine's 'geek' PM fought in Chechnya http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2662726 … pic.twitter.com/2llpzy5RLL

    Security Service of #Ukraine detained terrorist spy in #Lugansk Region. http://lugansk-news.com/security-ser...ugansk-region/ … pic.twitter.com/CCrqRITO64

    Hey world, FYI. In the space of 24 hours #Russia has questioned Bulgaria's sovereignty & threatened Sweden militarily
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    Col. Lysenko: Militants have not yet shown any real desire to withdraw heavy weapons
    http://112.ua/ato/boeviki-poka-ne-de...ko-257608.html


    "DNR" organization plans to hold their Elections on November 2 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/10-sept...heir-elections
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    Not a single ceasefire violation yesterday and after midnight. We have a complete ceasefire.

    Lavrov drops quiet bombshell. Could Kremlin actually be thinking of sticking to Minsk? Believe it when you see it.

    Reference Russian threats against Sweden----
    'Retaliation' is for an attack. Since when would #Sweden joining #NATO be an attack on #Russia? Really?

    Russian FSB agent identified via social media –was in the uniform of a Ukrainian special riot policemen during Maidan—
    pic.twitter.com/cU9OgiK2Ax

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    Poroshenko: Ceasefire not a dream any more. Today 1st day of no shelling in 1.5 years!

    Map. Situation in eastern #Ukraine, September 11, 2015, 00:00 EET *No single hostile armed provocation was recorded* pic.twitter.com/pxj6DVmCxz

    Poroshenko at #YESUkraine2015 'Minsk agreement not tbc in 2016. It have to be fulfilled in 2015'

    Fighting stopped in #Ukraine BUT: #Russia still controls the border, #Russia|n soldiers are still there, not a single weapon was withdrawn.

    The lack of intl response for the Crimea annexation encouraged Russia to continue, says @Poroshenko.
    Hard to argue with that now

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    Humor------

    Say Russia's 9/11 (apt bombings) was an inside job & we'll kill you.
    Say the real 9/11 was an inside job & we'll hire you at Russia Today.

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    Wolfgang Ischinger, Munich Security Conference, says NATO enlargement was not designed to confront Russia, outreach to RU was in parallel

    Russia wants #Ukraine to feed #Donbas while they will continue ruling that territory" - chief UA negotiator in #Minsk. #YESUkraine2015

    FM Klimkin says he's frustrated with lack of "comprehensive and consistent response" of the West in this crisis
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    Oliver Carroll @olliecarroll
    Strobe Talbott: ceasefire less abt permanent peace, than an attempt to lull Western govts, esp in Paris, not to roll
    over sanctions

    Russian corruption is amazing---another case of it----
    Metal bars painted gold apparently found in the vaults of the latest Russian bank to go bust:
    http://www.banki.ru/news/lenta/?id=8291660 … (RUS)

    What the heck is this Pro-Kremlin Grinsberg doing in Kyiv
    Grinberg: Donbass needs autonomy. No Ukraine in NATO. "Western arrogant triumphalism" drives Russian insecurity.

    THEN he states this internal Russian contradiction---
    Grinberg: we have to live together. No alternative to Minsk. There are responsible ppl in Russia who think Donbass is Ukraine.

    Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: Let us stop dreaming up. #Donetsk and #Luhansk are #Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/4gZMQnAL3G

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    Russian FM states yesterday if the Ukraine talks to the Russian mercenaries then they could allow the Ukrainian elections to happen their occupied zone—WHICH has to actually happen under Minsk 2.

    Ukrainian response---does not surprise me
    .@poroshenko rules out talks with Russian-led militants
    http://uatoday.tv/politics/poroshenk...ts-491625.html … pic.twitter.com/ixyBbhPpNq

    Poroshenko: We know exact location of Russian troops and weapons. None of their soldiers returned to Russia
    http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2015/09/11/7080912/

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: According to UA special services, hostile Russian soldiers and equipment have not been withdrawn from Donbas

    Col. Lysenko: No single flight of enemy UAV was detected in last 24 hours

    ATO spox: In Dnepropetrovsk region, SBU eliminated Web-operated communication line of militants with their Russian “curators”.

    Vital Probe of Odesa May 2 Tragedy stymied because of questions answered?
    http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1441584924

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