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Thread: Ukraine: Russo-Ukr War (June-December 2015)

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    Many do not realize that the Ukrainian Cyborg fighters at the Donetsk Airport broke the Stalingrad record for being surrounded and resisting.

    It took a so called truce by the Russian Spetsnaz under the guise of recovery of Russian KIAs which allowed them using gas to overcome the Ukrainians who then blew up the building with them in it.

    VIDEO: Combat footage from the 242 day defence of Donetsk airport by Ukrainian forces
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nD7WFb...re=youtu.be&a= … pic.twitter.com/ztNscke01A

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    youtube.com/watch?v=Nmz2ATGvlOY …

    Activists block food traffic to #Russia-held #Crimea.Will #Donetsk & #Luhansk b next?#Ukraine pic.twitter.com/lyZxNMPWpt

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    Donetsk 22:48
    Gvardeyka - hearing the roar of military equipment since 10 mins, towards the bypass road. https://twitter.com/Palchakkk/status/645686005815726081

    22:35 #Horlivka @mihailovith Hardware column passed, about 10 items, towards dividing line - to #Komsomolets-#Gagarina

    Horlivka 23:30
    Armored column passed through Stroitel in the city, seems like Gvozdikas and Urals https://twitter.com/ahab7822/status/645696455915638793

    23:30 #Horlivka @ahab7822 [Just now] through Stroitel micro-ds a column of armoured vehicles moved like Gvozdikas & Urals.Tow/block 245
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 09-20-2015 at 08:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    youtube.com/watch?v=Nmz2ATGvlOY …

    Activists block food traffic to #Russia-held #Crimea.Will #Donetsk & #Luhansk b next?#Ukraine pic.twitter.com/lyZxNMPWpt
    VIDEO #Ukraine activists & Tartars blockade entry to #Crimea declare "Crimea Maidan" https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=9tJtBitnuz4 … pic.twitter.com/ZzvovfMVcZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Donetsk 22:48
    Gvardeyka - hearing the roar of military equipment since 10 mins, towards the bypass road. https://twitter.com/Palchakkk/status/645686005815726081

    22:35 #Horlivka @mihailovith Hardware column passed, about 10 items, towards dividing line - to #Komsomolets-#Gagarina

    Horlivka 23:30
    Armored column passed through Stroitel in the city, seems like Gvozdikas and Urals https://twitter.com/ahab7822/status/645696455915638793

    23:30 #Horlivka @ahab7822 [Just now] through Stroitel micro-ds a column of armoured vehicles moved like Gvozdikas & Urals.Tow/block 245
    23:10 #Krasnohorivka @666_mancer [vk] Machine guns. Various intensity, but audible. Sometimes heavier weapons.#Stalino road/#Borysivka dir'n

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    Dmytro #Tymchuk: more ammo for Rus proxies came to #Ilovaysk by railway. Situation got more complicated over weekend https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.tymc...55108121284512

    Militants fired 4 times upon Ukr troops on 20 Sep, opened fire near Luhanske / Mayorsk to provoke return fire https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...70825952928210 … |EMPR

    Press Officer: The situation in sector "C" has begun to deteriorate. Militants yesterday fired on Luhanske & Mayorsk
    http://112.ua/ato/obstanovka-v-sekto...er-259638.html

    Ukraine dejavu
    "Neutral" German media speaks of "hope for peace" because of "Russian #offer", puts "American concerns" against it...

    Tymchuk: In #Lutuhyne area RU forces pulled 5 SPG's (2S1 "Gvozdika").
    To Ilovaysk a trainload of ammo and equipment arrived from Russia.

    Leader of Luhansk Peoples Republic sets Nov. 1 as date for local elections in violation of Minsk Protocol http://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/rolling...medium=twitter
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 09-21-2015 at 09:20 AM.

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    Russian "paths to war"---by Bellingcat

    New detailed report from Bellingcat on Russia's military involvement in Ukraine https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-a...-paths-to-war/

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    US social media giants simply do not nor do they want to fully understand
    Russian weaponization of information..


    WHAT a totally stupid idea by FaceBook-----but a question I have raised here a number of times comes to mind again--is FB really answering to the massive Russian oligarch investment into it??????

    New Facebook Dislike Button Will Delete Posts With 10 Dislikes
    The Kremlin trolls will just love this. Rethink req'd
    http://usatoday.com.co/new-facebook-...h-10-dislikes/

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    One has to love the Russian belief they are the greatest solution thinkers---if the electricity and water are fully cut which is the next blockade steps then what?

    The Crimeans have already forced food shortages by their hamster purchases as they fully believed the food blockade was coming.

    RU gang leader of #Crimea, Aksenov:
    If #CrimeaBlockade, Russian supplies will fully replace Ukrainian within 2 wks.
    https://twitter.com/aksenov_sv/statu...78794503495680

    Russian then has to provide at the minimum 7K tons of food a day just to replace the Ukrainian losses.

    AND the ferry service in winter is always a nightmare?????

    THIS depicts just how independent Crimea is from the Ukraine--and how he is basically lying.

    More than 800 trucks in the queue at the Ukrainian border to the Crimea. This shows that the #Crimea is still dependent on #Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    One has to love the Russian belief they are the greatest solution thinkers---if the electricity and water are fully cut which is the next blockade steps then what?

    The Crimeans have already forced food shortages by their hamster purchases as they fully believed the food blockade was coming.

    RU gang leader of #Crimea, Aksenov:
    If #CrimeaBlockade, Russian supplies will fully replace Ukrainian within 2 wks.
    https://twitter.com/aksenov_sv/statu...78794503495680

    Russian then has to provide at the minimum 7K tons of food a day just to replace the Ukrainian losses.

    AND the ferry service in winter is always a nightmare?????

    THIS depicts just how independent Crimea is from the Ukraine--and how he is basically lying.

    More than 800 trucks in the queue at the Ukrainian border to the Crimea. This shows that the #Crimea is still dependent on #Ukraine.
    New drone footage shows Tatar blockade of #Crimea http://uatoday.tv/news/new-drone-foo...ea-497494.html

    There is an interesting twist at work here--Russia annexes Crimea and expects the Ukrainians to continue paying for the Russian enclave????

    They had assumed the same for eastern Ukraine but also got hit with an economic blockade there as well.

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    And the Ukraine was not invaded????

    Ua losses statistics published: 1915 killed, 7053 wounded, 271 MIA, 76 remain prisoners https://inforesist.org/stali-izvestn...s-nachala-ato/ … pic.twitter.com/c97j0bwXS4

    AND this is for just one year's worth of fighting----

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    RU gov't assumes oil prices may drop below $35, but won't name exact figure "not to scare the people" http://top.rbc.ru/economics/20/09/20...7947604b8d3ff4 … much better now

    RU TV controlled by Alina Kabaeva fakes photo with US ambassador "attending" opposition rally in Moscow. https://twitter.com/rentvchannel/sta...58877426593792

    The 3 Ukrainian paratroopers captured near Crimea (Sep 5) are still being illegally held Russian FSB - Lysenko
    http://www.ukrinform.ua/rus/news/zah...isenko_1787509

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    Another great social media open source analysis product from bellingcat.


    The new @bellingcat report comes with an interactive map of Ru camps and border crossings. https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.kni...war/index.html … pic.twitter.com/1mIUXPaHV9

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    Germany criticizes #Russia for not pressing DNR, LNR to cancel their plans & hold elections in accord with #Ukraine law per Minsk II.

    Video of the operation, interesting captures http://youtu.be/p5djWJayRZk pic.twitter.com/cxp4OFXpSq

    Small arms dealers detained by @ServiceSsu in #Mykolayiv http://www.sbu.gov.ua/sbu/control/uk...2&cat_id=39574 … pic.twitter.com/mTJkA1YrKO

    LT issues note to Russia over repeated interruption by RU navy of civil navigation in Lithuania's EEZ in Baltic Sea pic.twitter.com/Bib7knVD08

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    http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/un...g-provocation/

    March 29, 2014

    Understanding Provocation

    One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya. While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there’s no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

    Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists, turning them to your side. When you’re dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn’t often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don’t exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

    While this isn’t a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don’t care about bloody and messy consequences. Credulous Westerners are a big help. Perhaps the most infamous Kremlin case of provokatsiya was the TRUST operation of the 1920s. In the aftermath of the Russian Civil War, Bolshevik control was incomplete and Moscow faced the problem that a large number of Whites, their recent enemies, had gotten sanctuary in Europe, where they plotted the reconquest of Holy Russia.

    Soon the White emigration klatched in the cafes of Paris and Berlin was invigorated by tantalizing rumors that there existed a secret anti-Bolshevik movement underground in the USSR, calling itself the Monarchist Union of Central Russia. Before long, prominent Whites gave this shadowy group their political and financial support, as did several Western intelligence services who desired the end – or at least the harassment – of Bolshevism. Intelligence from inside the Soviet Union was a scarce commodity at the time. Some emigres were even prompted to clandestinely return to Russia in the hope of aiding the resistance. Among them was the famous revolutionary Boris Savinkov, who had broken with the Bolsheviks and was one of Moscow’s top public enemies.

    But word of Savinkov dried up once he reached Russia, as it did for all the emigres and spies who tried to enter the Soviet Union to establish contact with the underground resistance. They were dead. The TRUST operation was all a mirage; there in fact was no Monarchist Union of Central Russia, it was a front for Soviet intelligence. By 1926, Western intelligence began to suspect the truth, but by that point the Soviet secret police had been running their false-flag operation for five years, during which time it had eliminated or neutralized several of its top enemies while causing them, and several Western spy services, to waste time, money, and energy on a mirage that was actually Soviet-run.

    Russians have employed this crafty model countless times since, as have the many intelligence services that have received training in the dark arts from Moscow. Cuban intelligence is notorious for this – it can be reliably assumed that many of the most hard-line anti-Castro exiles are actually on their payroll – while in the 1990s the Algerian military intelligence service, the feared DRS, executed an enormous version of the TRUST operation against its Islamist foes, defeating them in detail, but at the cost of thousands of innocent lives.

    This model must be kept in mind during current discussions of Ukraine, where the Kremlin assures us that the government in Kyiv are “fascists” planning a “Nazi” takeover. While there are right-wingers in Ukraine who have troubling views, their numbers are inflated for effect by Moscow, something which too many Westerners accept uncritically. Moreover, some of the most hardline Ukrainian nationalists are secretly under Moscow’s control, and there’s nothing new about this.

    The Soviet secret police infiltrated far-right Ukrainian emigre groups in the 1920s and 1930s, provoking them into self-defeating acts and killing off their leaders. Similar provocation was employed after the Second World War by Stalin’s secret police to crush resistance in Western Ukraine, which lasted into the early 1950s, while throughout the Cold War, Ukrainian rightists abroad were targets for surveillance, harassment, and sometimes assassination by the KGB.

    Since the Soviet collapse, similar Russian provocations in Ukraine are broadly understood by security circles in Kyiv, which is part of why the SBU, Ukraine’s Security Service, is now attempting to reign in far-right groups like the Right Sector (Pravyy Sektor): not only are they potentially dangerous to democracy, they may be on Moscow’s payroll too. This has come to a head due to the death this week of the notorious far-right activist Oleksandr Muzychko, AKA Sashko Billy, a vocal hater of Russians and Jews, who fell in a murky shootout with police in the Western Ukrainian city of Rivne. Muzychko was so extreme that he actually fought in Chechnya in the 1990s with the local resistance – Moscow accused him of war crimes there – and his funeral turned into a far-right rally against the government in Kyiv. Predictably, all this got huge coverage in Russian media, which is eager to demonstrate the “fascist” nature of all Ukrainians who do not wish to be ruled by the Kremlin.

    Continue..........

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    Russia still arming Ukraine rebels despite truce: NATO chief http://f24.my/1gGSpm0 pic.twitter.com/hEWPviFNIO

    RU-led terrorists in occup. eastern #Ukraine fear that Putin shot down NovoRussia project, thus started to defect from troops - ATO press


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    Strong dejavu feeling reading pages 147-48 about 1979 and Afganistan. Minus weapons support.

    https://books.google.be/books?id=M51...tan%22&f=false
    Last edited by kaur; 09-21-2015 at 07:03 PM.

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    SBU neutralized "LPR" subversive group planning to blow up bridge across Dnipro in Dnipropetrovsk. http://en.censor.net.ua/n352820 prin @censor_net

    Donetsk, Kievskiy district, Putilovskiy area - loud action...
    ok, whole Donetsk listens to remote artillery

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    Putin’s hybrid warfare in Ukraine is straight out of the Soviet playbook, via @TheStudyofWar http://read.bi/1QtVmT6 pic.twitter.com/ILOCTdNvrD

    UKR Embassy in USA ✔ @UKRintheUSA
    .@bellingcat issues report detailing numerous cases of crossings of UA territory by RU troops http://bit.ly/1MmMv4Y pic.twitter.com/E0IG2M1qoe

    Civil war debunked: @bellingcat probes online evidence of Moscow's secret Ukraine invasion
    https://www.bellingcat.com/wp-conten..._s__to_war.pdf … pic.twitter.com/wKgCAgjrLZ

    Putin's Philosopher Ivan Ilyin - a conspiracy theorist and a Russian nationalist with a core of fascistic leanings. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...ns-philosopher

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    Russian forces prepare for "tank biathlon" at Savur-Mohyla, 5km from UA-RU border https://vk.com/dnrarmy?w=wall-51146063_5301 … pic.twitter.com/igsSP6FqRt

    Russian occupation forces to hold "LPR v DPR tank biathlon" in Horlivka 24-26 Sep https://vk.com/dnrarmy?w=wall-51146063_5297 … pic.twitter.com/cKU89tbzyq

    Russian (hybrid) army unit "Diesel" are acc'd to their propaganda preparing for "tank biathlon"! 21 Sep https://youtu.be/Z-lcI7xbYls?t=26s

    Despite "temporary" Minsk truce, Russian (hybrid) army combat training continues https://vk.com/dnrarmy?w=wall-51146063_5294 … pic.twitter.com/n9s4ql7BzA

    Border Guard Service: 1 enemy drone was recorded in the ATO zone yesterday, near Trokhizbenka. #Ukraine
    http://dpsu.gov.ua/ua/about/news/news_8693.htm

    Videos of Russian (hybrid) army air defence exercises in occupied-Donetsk, Ukraine 19 Sep https://vk.com/dnrarmy?w=wall-51146063_5292

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