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    Russia really does want to truly violate Minsk 2 and head to a new Minsk 3 which would be beneficial for them.


    Russia twice attempted to go offensive near Novozvanivka, Ukrainian forces repelled both attacks

    pic.twitter.com/eJGljZDKHX

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    From the "fighting ceasefire" in eastern Ukraine or the war that never really did stop even though Putin wants you to think it did......
    BREAKING: 1 #Ukraine soldier killed, 5 wounded in the last 24 hours - ATO


    BREAKING Ukraine about to get 'lethal weapons' from USA.
    Putin will face the TOW in Ukraine as in Syria.
    https://twitter.com/uatodaytv/status/664356174150545408

    Ukraine MI-8 helicopter over #Volnovakha minutes ago, most likely medevac taking out the wounded
    via @Guderian_Xaba

    Fighting resumes around #Donetsk airport this morning. #Shyrokyne was under mortar fire at night.

    Russian invasion troops do their best to disrupt peace process, - NSDC Secretary Turchy
    http://24today.net/open/580156

    UK Delegation OSCE ✔ @UKOSCE
    #OSCE Border Mission observe funeral vans & ambulances crossing UKR/RUS border.All casualties of conflict regretted.
    http://www.osce.org/om/199051

    Tymchuk: Rus/Militants transfer 800 troops, equipment to Horlivka. Prepare large provocation
    https://m.facebook.com/dmitry.tymchu...message_bubble
    pic.twitter.com/XxlJQP4w8b
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    Over 300 Russian mercenaries arrive in Horlivka http://www.unian.info/war/1180166-ov...-horlivka.html …?

    Putin: We are not in new arms race, our task is to gain what was lost in the 90s
    http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2015/...ce-our-task-is …
    pic.twitter.com/iyXjcvSy9J

    New Arms Race now officially started although Putin he is not in an arms race? https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/664114208792043521 …

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    17:14 #Donetsk @patriot_petya [vk] "Putilovka: small arms are audible very much"

    16:57 #Donetsk @PVB40 [fb] "Leninsky: loud salvos heard" "Kirovsky Exec Com also hears singles" "Gvardeyka,center: small arms+single salvos"

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    Donetsk 17:01
    Larinka - booms can be heard from north, flashes
    https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/664465701315461124

    Donetsk 16:50
    Gvardeyka - shooting again, heavy
    https://twitter.com/kolbasnya/status/664455066867400704

    Donetsk 16:56
    Booms can be heard from north
    https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/664465546751135744

    Donetsk 16:56
    FB: Krasnyi Pahar - booms can be heard.
    https://twitter.com/Serzzze/status/664465337811935233

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    #EU's think-tank countering Russian propaganda issued it's first monitoring! Check it out! #Ukraine
    https://www.facebook.com/uacrisis/posts/900201553381934

    Appears Russian Occupation Forces near Horlivka will soon attempt to provoke Ukrainian response to blame Ukraine, destroy Minsk truce
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    http://russianforces.org/blog/2015/1..._massive.shtml

    Is Russia working on a massive dirty bomb?

    On November 10, 2015 President Putin held a regular meeting with his generals in Sochi to discuss development of the Russian strategic forces. The president used the occasion to complain again about U.S. missile defense plans and to warn that Russia will do whatever it takes to preserve the strategic balance.

    But that was not the most interesting part of the news story. One sharp observer (MJ) noticed that the camera took a peek at one of the documents prepared for the meetings (it is at 1:46 in the news story). It showed a summary of one of the projects that presumably were discussed at the meeting as part of the plan to restore that strategic balance that the U.S. missile defense system so blatantly undermines.

    The project is called "Ocean Multipurpose System 'Status-6'" with the TsKB MT Rubin design bureau listed as the lead developer (Rubin is the design bureau that built virtually all submarines that are currently in service). A brief paragraph describes the mission of the proposed system as follows:

    Damaging the important components of the adversary's economy in a coastal area and inflicting unacceptable damage to a country's territory by creating areas of wide radioactive contamination that would be unsuitable for military, economic, or other activity for long periods of time.

    The picture that follows shows that at the core of the weapon system is an underwater autonomous drone ("self-propelled underwater craft" or SPA), which could be delivered by one of the two submarines - Project 09852 or Project 09851. For some reason, the drone is shown as attached to the bottom of the 09852 submarine, but not to the 09851. Te text is hard to read, but it appears that Project 09852 submarine will carry four drones and Project 09852 - either 3 or 6. Given that 09852 is a smaller submarine (its displacement is shown as "10000 t" vs. what looks like a larger number for 09852), it's probably 3. It certainly does not look like "1", although "2" is a possibility.

    Interestingly, these two submarines are relatively recent projects. Project 09852 was laid down at Sevmash in December 2012. It is said to use the hull of the Belgorod submarine of the Project 949A/Oscar II class. The first Project 09851 submarine, Khabarovsk, was laid down in July 2014. (Project 09851 was also mentioned in the R&D known as Kalitka-SMP.)

    Again, the text is barely legible, but it appears that the drone would be able to travel at the depth of up to 1000 m at a fairly high speed (something like 105 km/h?). The range appears to be listed as 10000 km, which is a bit hard to believe, but this is what the slide says. The diameter ("caliber") of the drone appears to be more than 1 meter (probably 1.6 m), the general's hand hides the length of the device.

    The drone appears to be nuclear-powered - the fourth compartment is marked "Reactor module". This would explain the range, I guess, although it would need some guidance system to find its way around.

    Further down the list, there is a drawing of the system's components - command and control, support ships (non-nuclear submarine "Sarov" and some surface ship - Zvezdochka rescue ship I'm told), and something else that we cannot see.

    Finally, the timeline at the bottom of the slide says that pilot system will be built by 2019, so the state tests can be conducted in 2019-2020.

    I'm not quite sure what to make of this. First, it's an interesting security lapse. I know that quite a few people believe that the leak was intentional, but I don't think it's the case. Indeed, as I understand, the news organizations quickly removed the clip from their sites. On the other hand, Bill Getz did have a story about Russian underwater drone, Kanyon, two months ago. The name is different, but it appears to be more or less the system Gertz's Pentagon sources described. So, maybe Moscow decided that the leak would not be such a big deal. Still, they would have probably preferred to keep some details out of it.

    As for the project itself, Russia is not the only country that is working on underwater drones. But the payload looks like a massive "dirty bomb", which strikes me as absolutely crazy. A number of people noted that the description does not necessarily exclude the possibility that the initial "damaging" can be done by a regular nuclear device. Which only makes this whole thing even more insane - do they think that a nuclear weapon on its own would not inflict "unacceptable damage"?

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    Carl Bildt 
    ‏@carlbildt Worrying reports of separatist activity undermining the ceasefire in Eastern Ukraine. Moscow has control.


    Russia never had any love for Syrian refugees but now it seems to be kicking out Ukrainian refugees too http://www.newsru.com/russia/11nov2015/bezuk.html …

    OSCE monitors witness coal taken from occupied #Donbas to #Russia
    http://uatoday.tv/news/osce-monitors...ia-531867.html …
    pic.twitter.com/rERkSeWdHa

    Shellings and attacks are on again tonight.......
    16:48 #Donetsk railway station @TaylerRid Intense artillery and machine guns towards the airport. It rumbles all day since morning

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    Russia has not fulfilled a single point in Minsk 2 so what did Russia expect????

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Deputy FM Alexey Meshkov: Stripping Russian delegates of voting rights at the PACE is an act of Russophobia

    http://sptnkne.ws/acCc


    Russia is concerned they are not included in TTIP.......
    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Secrecy surrounding the Transatlantic Trade & Investment Partnership deal raises questions

    http://bit.ly/1QuLNpu
    pic.twitter.com/KrwgSSRKRN

    ATO: Militants fired at UA positions near Opytne four times, Avdiivka - three times, Marinka, Pisky and Novhorodske - twice

    ATO: Today, militants over 10 times attacked UA positions, using grenade launchers, heavy machine guns, small arms

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...50&__tn__=%2As

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    Ceasefire war is back on again--Russia never intended nor intends to ever fulfill Minsk 2.......


    BreakingNews
    The Ukrainian army warns, (pro-)#Russian militants redeployed 2S1 and BM-21 to close to #Makeevka.


    Russians position heavy artillery to front line again in Ukraine.
    https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/664558761445584896 …

    Because of the renewed Russian attacks on Ukrainians in Donbas Ukraine has to use lethal force again.
    https://twitter.com/novostidnua_en/s...60646520991745 …

    Russian proxies' troops continue massing near Donetsk – ATO HQ
    http://www.unian.info/war/1180897-ru...sk-ato-hq.html …
    pic.twitter.com/GQbFgUhNtL

    In German.....
    Disturbing to say the least. German TV on child soldiers in Donbas #Ukraine
    http://www.zdf.de/frontal-21/kriegsv...-40911640.html … via @ZDF
    pic.twitter.com/proEgqmkIe

    Russia accuses human rights group of seeking regime change http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/44656...#axzz3rDlVZZSH …
    pic.twitter.com/35Q6gnRQoW

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    MORE on the Russian underwater nuclear drone...mentioned here yesterday..

    We are now officially in Cold War 2----arms race is off and running regardless of what Putin states for the press which is always lies anyway....


    Lots more detail on that Russia 'accidental leak' of details on the doomsday-drone nuclear subs
    http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...med-drone-sub/

    In German......
    Kreml bestδtigt Echtheit: Geheime Atomwaffen versehentlich im russischen TV gezeigt
    http://bit.ly/1O4YMfc
    pic.twitter.com/I6kMPEZLzv

    RUSSIAN NUCLEAR TORPEDOS TO BE LAUNCHED FROM SPECIAL PURPOSE SUBMARINES "BELGOROD" AND "KHABAROVSK", NTV SAYS
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    'We gave a soldier 1st aid kit, he said it gave him hope of returning alive from frontline'
    http://uatoday.tv/society/lsquo-we-g...ne-531749.html … pic.twitter.com/j6nuOrHtxm

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    07:50 #Donetsk Kyivsky ds @KalinaiMalina Dull booms

    07:00 #Donetsk Shakhtarska Sq @UrriKara4en 6 long trucks of [Putin's] convoy escorted by DNR's UAZ car

    01:54am #Horlivka Stroitel @ahab7822 Seldom salvos audible

    22:58 #Donetsk @jackson_villi Sounds of battle are still reaching us. Middle intensity

    Again #rumours about RUS offensive, now on Nov15 'along front from Shyroka_Balka to Popasna'

    First day I've checked ТАСС that the "Crisis in Ukraine" has replaced "Crisis in Syria" on their news ribbon. Bad sign?

    Horlivka 5:15-5:25AM
    Outgoing series, very loud, audible from center. Judging by sound, from Gorky park direction. https://twitter.com/gipsogolovij/sta...45538382520325

    After every so called Russian humanitarian convoy Russia starts an offensive.......so we will see this time WHEN not IF....
    Putin's newest supply convoy arrived to #Donbas, the convoy was seen in #Donetsk minutes ago.


    Horlivka 5:20AM
    "Hear explosions, loud! Towards #Zaitsevo-#Mayorsk!"
    https://twitter.com/mihailovith/stat...45883020091393

    @Guderian_Xaba Near #Horlivka in the RU-controlled territory, all morning loud explosions could be heard. https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...94083057269166

    @Guderian_Xaba In #Doretsk reg. our positions came under RU fire at #Pisky, #Avdiivka, #Troitske.
    The same in sector M at #Bogdanovka.

    ATO press service: Yesterday evening russian-terrorists forces shelled our positions near #Trokhizbenka with 82-mm mortars.
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    US giant social media companies have been often working hand in hand with the Russian info warriors in getting their propaganda out.....if you use them MAYBE you need to read this urgently............

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...rolls-facebook …
    pic.twitter.com/WMbDWCbXTA

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    Situation in Ukraine is deteriorating. Russian forces mobilizing men/equipment & shelling Ukrainian positions where casualties are mounting.

    Ukraine discovers a large number of Russian tanks in Donetsk as Russian forces try to break through Ukrainian positions north of the city.


    Russian terrorist leader in #Ukraine advises his cohorts to put on tin foil hats to avoid "psychotrophic attacks":
    pic.twitter.com/2oJfkO0fVX

    Kremlin’s Campaign against Russophobia Threatens both Russia and West, Polish Experts Say
    http://www.interpretermag.com/kremli...h-experts-say/
    pic.twitter.com/APxvX30eK1

    Star Wars Redux’ – Putin’s Fear of Losing Nuclear ‘Club’ Works to Ukraine’s Advantage
    http://www.interpretermag.com/star-w...ortnikov-says/ pic.twitter.com/szRiyOvB5o
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    Russia prepares provocation against Ukraine to discredit UA authorities and create grounds for Minsk cancellation – #ATO Spokesperson
    Special group of FSB, GRU, other operatives tries to falsify evidence for alleged killing of 500 ppl & destroying 400 houses in Sokolniky
    ATO spox: To fabricate proof of “genocide” that never occurred, RU involves special services, General Staff, so-called “LPR” & “DPR” reps
    Col. Lysenko: To divert attention from Syria, Russia fabricates evidence of so-called “genocide of RU-speaking people” by UA army in Donbas


    ATO spox: Near Shchastya, UA police found an arsenal: 3 anti-tank rocket launchers, 20 grenades & >1000 ammo
    pic.twitter.com/lGSyHY0X33

    Now to ATO situation.
    In Luhansk sector shelling with 82mm mortar near Tryokhizbenka registered – #ATO Spokesperson

    ATO spokesperson: SBU detained an official of the “ministry of energy” of so-called “DPR” in Kharkiv region

    ATO spox: At place of RU & militants assault attempt of UA positions near Popasna, evidence of RU presence was found--CC found
    pic.twitter.com/bk43cjNJSU

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Mariupol sector: militants applied small arms near Bohdanivka village

    ATO spokesperson: Enemy used small arms & rocket launchers against UA positions to the south of Horlivka & in the west of Donetsk

    Col. Lysenko: Luhansk sector: militants provoked UA servicemen by shelling them twice near Triohizbenka village

    Russia MoD to form radioelectronics/electronic warfare (EW) research & development cluster at Tambov in 2017 https://twitter.com/RostecRussia/sta...44146926747648
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    The Ukraine has three major law suits against the RF ongoing and it is being predicted they will win all three.

    One against Gazprom for illegal billing and illegal business practices--283M USD

    Now this one with the WTO which is far more dangerous for Russia as it is against the business practices of pricing products from State owned companies

    November 17 RF invites Ukraine to hold consultations on Ukrain's suit to WTO
    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/2429261 … ...

    AND a 50B USD damage suit for RF military damages in eastern Ukraine.......

    Ukraine has managed to build one of Europe’s largest standing armies in the last 18 months
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nati...#storylink=cpy

    Russia 's main idea is to scare Europe with its nukes -to make sure they cooperate to appease https://twitter.com/harries_matthew/...49645550264320
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    Ukrainian parliament recognized the deportation of Crimean tatars in 1944 as a genocide
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/12-nove...rs-in-1944-was

    Russian "de-escalation" doctrine - War under a nuclear umbrella http://wp.me/pT7Zd-1cb
    via @jamesmashiri 9/12/2014

    Very important to factor in Russian military "de-escalation" doctrine of limited nuclear strike
    http://thebulletin.org/why-russia-ca...-de-escalation

    MUST READ 'NATO must adapt to address Russia’s nuclear brinkmanship' by @JacekDurkalec
    http://www.europeanleadershipnetwork...ship_3263.html … via @theELN #EUnonprolif

    Each Russian Bear remains a credible platform for 8x nuclear Kh-102 air-launched cruise missiles
    https://twitter.com/UAC_Russia_eng/s...44512728793088
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    Russia doesn't understand language EU speaking – PA OSCE President
    http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/303179.html

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    UAF is more and convinced the Russians want to attempt this.........

    Genocide Of Russian Speakers”: Russia Prepares A Large-Scale Provocation Against Ukraine

    http://ukraineunderattack.org/en/438...t-ukraine.html
    pic.twitter.com/Z7FlqQRISY

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