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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Moore View Post
    Outlaw,

    Some things never seem to change.



    Towards the end of WWII they did the same thing in Manchuria and parts of Eastern Europe. The Russians have always been about rape, pillage and burn. They committed tens of thousands of rapes in WWII, and pillaged anything of value in the areas they occupied. Hey, but at least they were liberated
    From today.......
    Col. Lysenko: UA intelligence reports: militants continue looting factories for equipment & metal

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    ATO spox: According to UA intelligence, yesterday near Horlivka, an armed clash occurred between “DPR” army and “DPR” police

    ATO spokesperson: In Krasnohorivka, the enemy fired at UA positions with BMP, rocket launchers & small arms

    Col. Lysenko: Area near Pisky amounted for the largest number of hostile armed provocations

    ATO spox: Most intensive hostilities occurred in the western outskirts of Donetsk

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: At the outskirts of Horlivka, the enemy was shelling UA positions for an hour with 120-mm mortars

    ATO spokesperson: Donetsk sector: Illegal armed groups opened fire at UA positions near Luhanske

    Col. Lysenko: Luhansk sector: The enemy was active near Slovianoserbsk: militants shelled UA positions in that area

    ATO spox: Yesterday, militants opened fire at UA positions with mortars, and cannonry at infantry combat vehicles

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Yesterday military situation in ATO area deteriorated

    Pro-#Russian militants attacked #Ukrainian positions 68 times in the last 24 hours. More at
    http://lugansk-news.com/pro-russian-...last-24-hours/
    pic.twitter.com/Ukosbnvsfa

    11:46 #Donetsk #Abakumova @PVB40 [fb] For about an hour the wind wafts [battle] sounds from the west, #Krasnohorivka area?

    11:17 #Horlivka @PVB40 quiet before, now 2 salvos aprox southward..At [former seafood] storages near GAI kamaz trucks are loaded+a black BTR

    Donetsk
    13:13 Booms
    13:14 Booms (Center/Leninskyi)
    Can be heard also in #Dzerzhynsk center.
    https://twitter.com/Chervona_Kalyna/...23942310805504
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-07-2015 at 12:04 PM.

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    Russia stopped al coal deliveries to Ukraine and attempted to economically pressure them---but they shot themselves in their own two feet---Russian coal was being supplied at 300 USD per ton and way to expensive and tied to older oligarch trade agreements favoring Russia--BY stopping the coal it ended the old agreements AND now South African coal arrives at 85 USD per ton.....

    South African coal arrives in Ukraine – Energy Ministry
    http://www.unian.info/economics/1204...-ministry.html
    pic.twitter.com/iCbbpIii2M

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    Lifenews: "Jihadi Tolik"(new Daesh executioner) interested in Nazism.
    Typical for "Novorosiya" volunteer fighters

    pic.twitter.com/rsUtETviQz

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    ATO spox: According to UA intelligence, yesterday near Horlivka, an armed clash occurred between “DPR” army and “DPR” police

    ATO spokesperson: In Krasnohorivka, the enemy fired at UA positions with BMP, rocket launchers & small arms

    Col. Lysenko: Area near Pisky amounted for the largest number of hostile armed provocations

    ATO spox: Most intensive hostilities occurred in the western outskirts of Donetsk

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: At the outskirts of Horlivka, the enemy was shelling UA positions for an hour with 120-mm mortars

    ATO spokesperson: Donetsk sector: Illegal armed groups opened fire at UA positions near Luhanske

    Col. Lysenko: Luhansk sector: The enemy was active near Slovianoserbsk: militants shelled UA positions in that area

    ATO spox: Yesterday, militants opened fire at UA positions with mortars, and cannonry at infantry combat vehicles

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Yesterday military situation in ATO area deteriorated

    Pro-#Russian militants attacked #Ukrainian positions 68 times in the last 24 hours. More at
    http://lugansk-news.com/pro-russian-...last-24-hours/
    pic.twitter.com/Ukosbnvsfa

    11:46 #Donetsk #Abakumova @PVB40 [fb] For about an hour the wind wafts [battle] sounds from the west, #Krasnohorivka area?

    11:17 #Horlivka @PVB40 quiet before, now 2 salvos aprox southward..At [former seafood] storages near GAI kamaz trucks are loaded+a black BTR

    Donetsk
    13:13 Booms
    13:14 Booms (Center/Leninskyi)
    Can be heard also in #Dzerzhynsk center.
    https://twitter.com/Chervona_Kalyna/...23942310805504
    Donetsk 14:25
    From the airport and #Spartak area BOOMs can be heard. Truce continues.

    https://twitter.com/vuiko65/status/673841121559228416

    New unit of #Russia|n regular Armed Forces entered #Ukraine, vehicles has diamond shaped insignia with number 29 inside - Muzhenko

    Major Escalation In Number Of Attacks Overnight ---MAP
    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...ernight/#11406
    pic.twitter.com/y8IjNtcHiT
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-07-2015 at 01:25 PM.

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    Head of Rus Parliament Naryshkin: #Kyiv can bet on any new confrontation in the #Donbass
    pic.twitter.com/3X6eUML4OK
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/7-decem...n-kyiv-can-bet

    Russia is preparing for attack. ~1 Jan
    https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/673862283903287297

    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Envoy Alexander Grushko: #NATO expansion is blatantly ideological and has nothing to do with security

    http://sptnkne.ws/andU

    BUT the Russian invasions of eastern Ukraine and Syria do have to do with Russian security??? Another great Russian altered state of reality statement by their FM...
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    Appears Russia will not be getting their 3B Euro debt paid back as it was a open bribe to begin with for th4 former Ukrainian President ....

    IMF has scheduled a Board Meeting to change its "Arrears-Lending Policy" on Dec 8. = IMF can continue to lend to UA if RU not paid $3bn bond

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    19:28
    #Yasynuvata checkpoint, #Spartak - battle with mortars and artillery.
    https://twitter.com/patriot_petya/st...17324253073409

    Good read.
    "Only thing they complain about is that when militants fire on them, they have orders not to shoot back."
    https://twitter.com/24todayneteng/st...30493130317824

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    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/1...freesavchenko/

    Dmitry Tymchuk: Military update 12.07

    Posted on December 7, 2015

    (See end of post for acronym glossary)

    Operational data from Information Resistance:

    During the past weekend (12.05.–12.06.2015), Russian-terrorist troops in Donbas continued actively firing on ATO forces’ positions and civilian targets in a number of sectors. Militants used small arms, 82 mm and 120 mm mortars, the on-board guns of armored combat vehicles and grenade launchers. Enemy tactical groups made attempts to directly engage ATO units, and to approach advanced Ukrainian troop units to fire at them from an effective small arms range.

    The appearance of militant heavy armor (tanks) and artillery at the front line, which had been previously withdrawn according to the Minsk agreements, was noted in several sections simultaneously. At this time, these armaments are not being used (they are camouflaged at front-line positions).

    The highest terrorist activity was recorded in the vicinity of Horlivka, as well as west and northwest of Donetsk. During the past 24 hours, militants fired on ATO positions near Krasnohovirka, Pisky, and Avdiivka, as well as along almost the entire contact perimeter between the “Horlivka garrison” and Ukrainian troops (firing was particularly active in the directions of Shumy, Mayorsk, Zaitseve, and east of Zaitseve). Militant activity was also noted in the vicinity of Troitske, Shyrokyne, and Shchastya.

    Militants made three attempts to attack the ATO forces’ positions.

    Thus, northwest of Staromykhailivka, a terrorist group of up to one platoon in strength (up to 30 personnel), supported by four 82 mm mortars, one ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun, and two BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles (firing from a stationary position), covertly proceeded towards an advanced ATO stronghold in the vicinity of Pisky. After a mortar fire attack, the group attempted to engage the Ukrainian unit in close combat. The covert movement of the militant infantry group was duly spotted by the lookouts of the stronghold’s battlefield security, and the enemy was subject to heavy fire from automatic rifles and machine guns. Following that, militants were forced to fall back to their original line, all the while actively returning fire. During the retreat, the enemy actively fired on ATO forces’ positions from mortars, AGS-17 type automatic stand-mounted grenade launchers, ZU-23-2 and the on-board weaponry of a BMP-2.

    Militants followed a similar scenario south of Novhorodske and in the vicinity of Shumy – Zaitseve. Near Novhorodske, an enemy DRG attempted to infiltrate the ATO forces’ tactical rear under cover of heavy fire on the Ukrainian troop positions (militants fired heavily on strongholds south of Novhorodske throughout Sunday, using small arms, and 82 mm and 120 mm mortars); the resulting skirmish was a firefight. In the vicinity of Shumy – Zaitseve, militants employed several armored combat vehicles (APCs and BMP-2) and operated with relatively large infantry groups (45-50 personnel in each). The assault was “accompanied” by fire from 82 mm mortars, the on-board weapons of ACVs, and ZU-23-2.

    The level and manner of organization of these skirmishes demonstrate the lack of foresight and a considerable nervousness in the militant tactical command: terrorist groups often fire unsighted, act in an erratic and “ad hoc” fashion, and make frontal assaults against the battlefield security and positions of Ukrainian troops. The level of coordination of forces and equipment during these attacks and armed provocations is notably low.

    The enemy continues growing (reinforcing) their tactical groups concentrated in the vicinity of Horlivka. Further accumulation of forces and equipment in this area can result in the creation of a militant strike group capable of operating in the northern (Artemivsk), northeastern and northwestern directions.

    Terrorists also continue reinforcing their units concentrated on the stretch from Spartak and Donetsk International Airport (DAP) to the northern outskirts of Horlivka. A militant armored group (several BMP-2) was spotted transferring to the vicinity of Ozeryanivka. A militant reinforced motorized rifle company (eight ACVs and a mortar battery of six 2B9 82 mm automatic mortars) is concentrated near the Haharina (Hlyboka) mine town. A similar reinforced company was transferred towards the Stroiteley residential estate in [western] Horlivka; four terrorist tanks were recorded south of the area (camouflaged among private residences).

    The group deployed along the Novooleksandrivka – Veselohorivka – Sanzharivka line continues receiving reinforcements. Terrorists are covertly transferring personnel (in 25-30 person groups) to this area through Irmino and Stakhanov (Almazny). Six ACVs (MT-LB multi-purpose transporters and BMP-1) arrived in this area during the weekend.

    An armored group consisting of six MT-LB and three BMP-1 advanced from the direction of Luhansk towards Stanytsia Luhanska (according to our preliminary data, to provide reinforcements for militant checkpoints).

    Two MT-LB transporters with Strela-10 anti-aircraft systems were spotted in the vicinity of Makiivka, transporting to the southern regions.

    Glossary:
    ACV – armored combat vehicle
    ATO – Anti-Terrorist Operation
    BMP – infantry fighting vehicle
    BTR, APC – armored personnel carrier
    DNR – “Donetsk People’s Republic”
    DRG – sabotage and reconnaissance group
    LNR – “Luhansk People’s Republic”
    MT-LB – light multirole tracked vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/1...freesavchenko/

    Dmitry Tymchuk: Military update 12.07

    Posted on December 7, 2015

    (See end of post for acronym glossary)

    Operational data from Information Resistance:
    Ukraine warns OSCE of possible 'adequate response' to militants shelling
    http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/309649.html

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    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Yesterday, near Mariupol, SBU detained an informant of “DPR” militants who was recruited by Russian military

    ATO spox: According to UA intelligence, militants of so-called “DPR” & “LPR” seek to terminate their “war contracts” & return to safe life

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: 2 UA servicemen were wounded because of explosives` blast

    ATO spox: No serviceman KIA, 2 Ukrainian servicemen were wounded in last 24 hours

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Mariupol sector: Militants opened unaimed fire at UA positions near Starohnativka & Shyrokyne

    ATO spokesperson: Most strained military situation remains near Donetsk airport: mortars, BMP-2, sniper fire were detected

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Near Zaitseve, illegal armed formations attempted to attack UA positions, but were repelled back

    ATO spox: Outskirts of Horlivka: militants shelled UA positions, enemy snipers were active

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Donetsk region: Near Luhanske village, militants opened fire with rocket launchers & machine guns

    ATO spox: Luhansk region: militants violated cease-fire regime near Stanytsia-Luhanska by opening fire with small arms & rocket launchers

    .@OSCE: around 270 explosions in Donetsk and Luhansk regions last weekend. "Sharp spike in #ceasefire violations"
    http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=...3&e=7e51c3b9d7

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Yesterday, near Mariupol, SBU detained an informant of “DPR” militants who was recruited by Russian military

    ATO spox: According to UA intelligence, militants of so-called “DPR” & “LPR” seek to terminate their “war contracts” & return to safe life

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: 2 UA servicemen were wounded because of explosives` blast

    ATO spox: No serviceman KIA, 2 Ukrainian servicemen were wounded in last 24 hours

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Mariupol sector: Militants opened unaimed fire at UA positions near Starohnativka & Shyrokyne

    ATO spokesperson: Most strained military situation remains near Donetsk airport: mortars, BMP-2, sniper fire were detected

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Near Zaitseve, illegal armed formations attempted to attack UA positions, but were repelled back

    ATO spox: Outskirts of Horlivka: militants shelled UA positions, enemy snipers were active

    Col. Andriy Lysenko: Donetsk region: Near Luhanske village, militants opened fire with rocket launchers & machine guns

    ATO spox: Luhansk region: militants violated cease-fire regime near Stanytsia-Luhanska by opening fire with small arms & rocket launchers

    .@OSCE: around 270 explosions in Donetsk and Luhansk regions last weekend. "Sharp spike in #ceasefire violations"
    http://us6.campaign-archive2.com/?u=...3&e=7e51c3b9d7
    Heavy Fighting Reported In Donetsk This Afternoon http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...reforms/#11428
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8-Ekap3JVo

    New Draft Law Enables Russia to Ignore International Human Rights Decisions
    https://globalvoices.org/2015/12/08/...hts-decisions/ … @yashavzakone on tricky legalese.

    The story how #Russian army spreads the world terrorism first in #Ukraine, now in #Syria.
    https://informnapalm.org/en/dec08-russia-terrorism/ … pic.twitter.com/BZ4q4cnzoF

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    Russia's economy going down hill in line with oil. Expect more #Putin trouble.
    https://twitter.com/wbstevens/status/674193389546508288

    AND at 6M USD per day for two wars...how long can Putin hang on...not long....

    Fighting intensifies in #Donbas, #OSCE monitors threatened by armed fighters.
    http://www.kyivpost.com/article/cont...&source=traqli

    Part 5 of my Russia open source research guide is up! Lots of useful info on Russia/Ukraine-specific geolocation: https://globalvoices.org/2015/12/07/...f-geolocation/

    Putin's financing of anti-EU far-right is paying off: FN win in #France inches #Russia from sanctions over #Ukraine http://mashable.com/2015/12/07/marin.../#QZTRZwCaq05E

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    http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1449581815

    Major increase in ‘unexplained’ Russian soldiers’ deaths

    08.12.15 | Halya Coynash

    Human rights activists are demanding an official answer about the death of 159 Russian soldiers, and particularly note the sharp increase in unexplained deaths during the second half of 2014. The increase coincides with reports of Russian deaths in Donbas and of a major escalation in Russia’s military engagement in eastern Ukraine.

    Rights activists have been forced to use only alternative open sources, since there has been no official information published on military deaths since 2010. Valentina Melnikova from the Union of Committees of Soldiers’ Mothers stresses that the actual number of deaths is always higher than the military prosecutor’s statistics. She points out also that because of the increased number of contract soldiers, rather than conscripts, there has been a decrease in recorded cases of suicide, murder and fatal accidents. All the more reason, she adds, to find out why there was such a sharp increase in deaths in 2014.

    Or at least to ask the question, since the scale of Russia’s military engagement in Ukraine, particularly from August 2014, is denied only by Russia itself.

    The question, however, is welcome especially given Russian President Vladimir Putin’s decree of May 28 which classified all information about Russian military losses during “special operations in peacetime”, without providing any definition of ‘special operations nor any clarity as to what information is to be concealed.

    The lack of foreseeability is doubtless deliberate, with even lawyers, let alone journalists and civic activists, unsure what information could be deemed by the FSB [security service] to constitute a ‘state secret’ and lead to a person being prosecuted if they divulge it.

    Sergei Krivenko, from the Human Rights Council, an advisory body under the President, has told RBK that he and colleagues will be asking Russia’s Investigative Committee and the Chief Military Prosecutor’s Office to carry out a more thorough investigation into the death of 159 Russian soldiers from Jan 1, 2014 to July 30, 2015. The figure only concerns those cases which have gained publicity.

    In the absence of official information, the rights activists have compiled their own list, choosing only the most definite cases. In most of these, they know the name, the soldier’s military unit, and have confirmation of their death from relatives or law enforcement bodies.

    Krivenko stresses that they have probed only cases where the deaths were of serving officers. After a surge of reports in late August of the death of a large number of Pskov paratroopers dying in Donbas, and of soldiers, including conscripts being forced to go to eastern Ukraine, pro-Kremlin TV showed a couple of funerals of men who had allegedly gone as volunteers to fight in Ukraine (See: First reports on Pro-Kremlin TV of Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine).

    Of the 159, the circumstances of only 79 deaths are known and only in 38% of the cases is there any information about a check being carried out by the military prosecutor’s office.

    The activists’ probe uncovered an anomalous situation in the second half of 2014. Krivenko explains that the Russian army then lost at very least 108 men (68% of the total number over the year and a half in question). In the vast majority (80%) of cases, there is no clear information as to how the men died, or of any check having been carried out. This is quite unacceptable for peacetime, Krivenko stresses.

    RBK notes that the surge in numbers coincides with reports of soldiers dying in eastern Ukraine. In September it sent a formal request for information to the Defence Ministry about over 10 soldiers from different units. The Ministry did not reply, though it is legally obliged to do so.

    All kinds of deception was applied. In the case of the Pskov paratroopers, first reported by Lev Shlosberg, there were even attempts to deny their deaths, with fake social network entries added (See: Russian soldiers’ deaths in Ukraine: A web of lies and fake social network pages).

    There have also been repressive measures against those activists who probe the deaths: Soldiers Mothers of St Petersburg was labelled a ‘foreign agent’ just days after it announced its probe. Lev Shlosberg was brutally attacked within days of reporting the deaths of Pskov paratroopers, while 74-year-old Soldiers’ Mothers activist Ludmila Bogatenkova was first remanded in custody on absurd charges and only released when it became clear that she would likely die in remand prison. She was still convicted in a case clearly intended to provide a lesson to other activists.

    Soldiers have also been jailed, effectively for refusing to fight in Donbas.

    Krivenko insists that the aim of their report is not to prove that Russian soldiers have taken part in the military action in Ukraine. For them it is more important that the rights of the soldiers and their families to an objective investigation are observed, and, if necessary, to bring those guilty to answer.

    This is indeed important, but accountability is vital when it is the leaders of the country who are causing the death of soldiers in an undeclared war on another country’s territory. And when they are claiming that such information is a ‘state secret’.

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    Donetsk 17:50
    Petrovka - Periodically one can hear quite powerful single volleys. https://twitter.com/olgarjpthju/stat...55904439730178

    Shooting in #Donetsk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8-Ekap3JVohttp://liveuamap.com/en/2015/8-decem...ing-in-donetsk

    17:33 #Krasnyi_Luch @falconua ...smoke in the sky and flashes there [AA-gun or fireworks]

    Lysenko: Area of combat actions expands. Militants use prohibited 82-mm mortars
    http://uacrisis.org/38381-andrij-lisenko-138
    pic.twitter.com/F2KGxVhr1L

    17:34 #Horlivka #Rtutnyi @ahab7822 towards mine 6-7 small arms fire is heard

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia's economy going down hill in line with oil. Expect more #Putin trouble.
    https://twitter.com/wbstevens/status/674193389546508288

    AND at 6M USD per day for two wars...how long can Putin hang on...not long....

    Fighting intensifies in #Donbas, #OSCE monitors threatened by armed fighters.
    http://www.kyivpost.com/article/cont...&source=traqli

    Part 5 of my Russia open source research guide is up! Lots of useful info on Russia/Ukraine-specific geolocation: https://globalvoices.org/2015/12/07/...f-geolocation/

    Putin's financing of anti-EU far-right is paying off: FN win in #France inches #Russia from sanctions over #Ukraine http://mashable.com/2015/12/07/marin.../#QZTRZwCaq05E
    Is $10 the next stop for #oil? Unlikely, but there are striking parallels between 2014-16 and the crisis of 1997-98 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...all-over-again

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    17:00 #Donetsk @donetskye Roar of a tracked column towards #Hornyak. [Gunnery] rumble for 30 min towards #Azotny-#Hornyak.

    Heavy Fighting Reported In Donetsk This Afternoon
    http://bit.ly/1R7CUDD
    http://bit.ly/1R7CWLI

    20:14 #Donetsk #Kirovsky @666_mancer [vk] "They resume to make noise"
    [battle sounds again after some lull]

    20:48 #Horlivka @tgorlovka In the north of the city one can hear shots and explosions
    20:57 Shooting in #Zaytseve, combat started there

    21:26 #Horlivka @_John__Carter_ First there was just shooting, now it's getting more and more heavier

    21:27 #Zaytseve, #Horlivka @oksi_art 82mm mortaring started at UA positions

    20:15 #Donetsk @Buzzing_Rook Northward, it sounds like a tank rumbles
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-08-2015 at 07:33 PM.

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    http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.de/...ganda-its.html

    Tuesday, December 8, 2015

    ‘Russian World’ Isn’t Propaganda; It’s Psychotherapy for Russians, Analyst Says


    Paul Goble

    Staunton, December 8 – “Under the conditions of the specific Russian culture of today, the ‘Russian world’ fulfills an important role,” Maksim Goryunov says. “The myth of the ‘Russian world’ helps people to hold out when they find themselves in complicated and unbearable circumstances.”

    The Russian analyst says that “if an individual who grows up in the Russian cultural climate is not able to make a career, keep a family or maintain a business … the myth about the ‘Russian world’ helps him to avoid throwing up his hands or turning to vodka” (forbes.ru/mneniya-column/tsennosti/306971-russkii-mir-kak-zashchita-ot-otchayaniya).

    And thus it is important to understand that “the ‘Russian world’ is not propaganda” and was not dreamed up in a Kremlin office. It existed long before pro-Kremlin talking heads mentioned it. It “exists now, and it will exist tomorrow when the hysteria [about it finally] settles down.”

    Goryunov devotes his article to explaining why this is so and how the myth of the “Russian world” works. First of all, he says, “the ‘Russian world’ by accusing Jews/Caucasians/Asians for all their misfortunes removes the feeling of guilt for their own failures.”

    Guilt is a destructive emotion, and people run from it. The “Russian world” is one mechanism that helps them do so. If a Russian loses his job, he isn’t guilty. The Zionists or the Americans or someone else is. That isn’t so important; what matters is that the Russian himself or herself never is. And he or she doesn’t not have to face reality or take responsibility.

    But in this respect, “the ‘Russian world’ is like opium for the people about which Marx spoke, “an ideological opium” that may help people get through tough times but that through overuse strips them of the capacity for action, Goryunov suggests.

    A second way that the “Russian world” performs a psychotherapeutic function has to do with the victims it identifies. Sometimes, Russians talk about White Russian emigres who were driven into poverty abroad by the Zionists; more often, they talk about the Russian Cossacks who have suffered so much.

    “As a rule,” Goryunov writes, “Russian men who have suffered a major failure sooner or later join the Cossacks. A Russian Cossack is such an amoral government actor and holy thief who by his theft serves the fatherland and by his amorality God.” Such people thus become romantic heroes precisely because they are driven to this by oppression.

    Not all Russians take refuge in the “Russian world,” of course. “If someone formed in a Russian milieu is in a situation where ‘everything is going well,’ he will not think about the ‘Russian world.’ More likely, he will with satisfaction laugh about it” – because he doesn’t need the kind of therapy it provides.

    That in turn means, the analyst says, that “even if tomorrow Russia was suddenly transformed and became normal, the ‘Russian world’ would not go anywhere. It would remain very much alive in the dregs of Russian society.” It would in short return to where it was two years ago, but it will last 200 years after Russia disappears “if of course it does disappear.”

    There is a “radical” cure for the “Russian world.” It consists of economic growth and a just distribution of incomes. “The richer Russian society will be, the less of the ‘Russian world’ there will be in it.”

    Indeed, the connection between the myth of the “Russian world” and misfortune and a poor quality of life is much like the connection between those factors and tuberculosis. And the cure is thus much the same.

    The myth is thus useful – it provides a reduction in “discomfort from failure” – but only temporarily. Like any ideological opium, the ‘Russian world’ destroys if it is used for too long. It is sufficient to look at ‘professional Russians’ in order to understand how fatal it can be in large doses.”

    But even small doses can be dangerous under some circumstances. It can lead those who take it to avoid responsibility to meet their ends “in the Ukraine steppe or in the mountains between Syria and Turkey.”

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    Reference the Russian info warfare media outlet....Sputnik International

    Satire is a threat to authoritarianism. So Russia attempts to "discredit" that which cannot be discredited: Comedy.
    https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/sta...07831676432385

    No @SputnikInt, parody accounts mocking you are result of your idiotic "journalism" not of popularity.
    http://sputniknews.com/analysis/2015...#ixzz3tl6VBte6

    Also bashes open source investigations while saying it conducted its own, albeit poorly done, investigation. https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/674322613825642496

    Sputnik runs piece mocking "digital forensics," then whiffs on trying it themselves in misidentifying who runs parody
    http://sputniknews.com/analysis/2015...-accounts.html

    Hilariously humorless Sputnik piece about how people mistake it for its own parody account:
    http://sputniknews.com/analysis/2015...#ixzz3tlL7JtDE
    pic.twitter.com/r5AIoJxii6
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-08-2015 at 08:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    17:00 #Donetsk @donetskye Roar of a tracked column towards #Hornyak. [Gunnery] rumble for 30 min towards #Azotny-#Hornyak.

    Heavy Fighting Reported In Donetsk This Afternoon
    http://bit.ly/1R7CUDD
    http://bit.ly/1R7CWLI

    20:14 #Donetsk #Kirovsky @666_mancer [vk] "They resume to make noise"
    [battle sounds again after some lull]

    20:48 #Horlivka @tgorlovka In the north of the city one can hear shots and explosions
    20:57 Shooting in #Zaytseve, combat started there

    21:26 #Horlivka @_John__Carter_ First there was just shooting, now it's getting more and more heavier

    21:27 #Zaytseve, #Horlivka @oksi_art 82mm mortaring started at UA positions

    20:15 #Donetsk @Buzzing_Rook Northward, it sounds like a tank rumbles
    21:16 #Donetsk #Petrovsky @_Befana Northwest: 2 MLRS volleys, sounds like Grad, long and short volleys

    21:25 #Donetsk #Trudovski @olgarjpthju [fb] Very strong growl, but not thunder for sure, 1,2,3 times like metal skirr...

    21:15 #Maryinka @666_mancer [vk]strong salvos tow/#Krasnohorivka
    21:41 @pinokioner sounds like before the last pseudo-truce tow/#Kurakhove

    21:41 #Donetsk @waterloo_2014 From #Krasnyi_Partyzan they report me, something booms constantly towards #Horlivka once each 3-5 minutes

    21:33 #Maryinka @666_mancer [fb] Sounds like it goes at checkpoint [area], heard loudly and windows vibrate

    Donetsk 21:41
    GRADs from Petrovka, not full package. 4-6 rockets every few mins. Already 20 flew tow #Krasnohorivka https://twitter.com/patriot_petya/st...13953435107328

    21:54 @amdh2012 'Maybe there were some landings in village Shevchenkove near #Kurakhove'
    https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/674311424785711104

    22:00 #Horlivka #Stroitel @ahab7822 It booms somewhere [=salvos heard]

    21:49 #Maryinka @patriot_petya [vk] "They shell at mine's shaft - explosions are seen over there"

    Russian contractors & volunteers moving from #Ukraine to #Syria
    https://informnapalm.org/en/dec08-russia-terrorism/
    pic.twitter.com/MwrEmSOtHa

    Luhansk. Russian soldiers in the city
    pic.twitter.com/cqw0wqbfp0
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/7-decem...rs-in-the-city
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 12-08-2015 at 08:11 PM.

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