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    Appears that Russia is now formally admitting it is hurting or they would not been evidently trying a trial balloon like this—Russia is having a hard time getting the Ukrainians attention—they are weathering the shelling and ground attacks, have basically blockaded the mercenaries in a corner and are getting financial help from the West—they are in no hurry to do deals with Russia and in the meantime Russia is struggling to financially support their mercenaries and the daily war costs for the military deployment are pushing 30M USD a day.

    top.rbc.ru/politics/15/06/2015/557ea3169a7947375ffa6b5c … Media reports that Moscow has sent a secret peace proposal, though a source says leadership in Kiev must change 1st.

    Kremlin's terms for #Minsk3: DPR/LPR (ie Russia) to control entire territory of Donbas region?! https://translate.google.ie/translat...k-3&edit-text= … via @JoergForbrig

    Moscow's next trap for Kyiv? @vesti reports Minsk 3 proposal to include autonomy for full Luhansk/Donetsk oblasts, amnesty for rebels......creation of national militia, gov't reshuffle or snap election in Kyiv http://vesti-ukr.com/donbass/103515-...tovili-minsk-3

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    Russian troops and her mercenaries and their heavy weapons are on the move.

    Tymchuk: Ukrainian armed forces have recorded 20 trucks with a pontoon bridge system to south of Luhansk http://www.unian.info/war/1089411-ty...ebaltseve.html …

    Tymchuk: 14 Jun Russian forces also moved 3x 9K35 Strela-10 short-range SAM systems between the village of Sadove and the town of Khartsyzk

    Tymchuk: On 14 June Russian forces redeployed 2x TOR SAM systems through Shakhtarsk (+ 2x BTR-80 amphibious APCs and 3x KAMAZ trucks)

    Tymchuk: On 14 June Russian forces deployed 450-500 troops + 6x 2S1 Gvozdika SPGs + 5 D-30 howitzers near Horlivka http://www.unian.info/war/1089411-ty...ebaltseve.html …

    Tymchuk: Russian forces forward deploy 1000+ troops and many 122/152mm artillery units to Horlivka and Debaltseve http://www.unian.info/war/1089411-ty...ebaltseve.html …

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    DNR and LNR is called zone T1 & T2 in Russia government
    via @InfoResist And someone still believes in Novorossia

    Seems some Russian officials just cannot let go of the past---moderator on Russian TV
    "We lost the country in 1991. Now we recovering....returned Crimea, and finally the battle with the West!" - Prohanov at #NTV.


    After #Ukraine hit Givi's ammo store Russia's DNR troops shelled RESIDENTIAL areas in #Donetsk
    http://podrobnosti.ua/2040696-pod-do...ikov-givi.html … pic.twitter.com/J2qOw5FRp2

    Rostov-on-Don in #Russia, close to Ukraine, with 5000 new no-name graves pic.twitter.com/flZWSi0Ukf

    Russian MoD: Moscow will boost forces on Western flank should US store heavy arms in Baltic states and eastern Europe http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...cs/523613.html

    Fighting intensifies in the #Donbas. #Russia forces attacking with heavy artillery:
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...in-the-donbas/ … pic.twitter.com/YxRWkir2ya

    Minsk dies one more time - Zakharchenko: the DNR is an independent state, will "never be part of Ukraine": http://ria.ru/world/20150615/1070093401.html

    @LUGANSK_TODAY
    Ghost Army in #Ukraine. Identified soldiers who captured Council of Ministers of Crimea http://lugansk-news.com/putin-ghost-...ers-of-crimea/ … pic.twitter.com/VWtElkbgxF

    Image of the situation in East #Ukraine #Russia(n) forces spreading like a cancer in #Donbas pic.twitter.com/QEYOo1wfJO
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Seems the local Ukrainian media has a far different view of Azov as does the good US Congressman Conyers:

    Holding back #Putin’s Red Tide in #Shyrokyne (#photo essay):
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...-in-shyrokyne/
    AZOV pic.twitter.com/pubxQtm4G2
    During Cold War, Rep Conyers tight with World Peace Council a known KGB front. Some things never change.

    Two #Azov soldiers troll #Russia media online,pretend they're USA soldiers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxtQzJghF24
    Full report here: http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...-in-shyrokyne/

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears that Russia is now formally admitting it is hurting or they would not been evidently trying a trial balloon like this—Russia is having a hard time getting the Ukrainians attention—they are weathering the shelling and ground attacks, have basically blockaded the mercenaries in a corner and are getting financial help from the West—they are in no hurry to do deals with Russia and in the meantime Russia is struggling to financially support their mercenaries and the daily war costs for the military deployment are pushing 30M USD a day.

    top.rbc.ru/politics/15/06/2015/557ea3169a7947375ffa6b5c … Media reports that Moscow has sent a secret peace proposal, though a source says leadership in Kiev must change 1st.

    Kremlin's terms for #Minsk3: DPR/LPR (ie Russia) to control entire territory of Donbas region?! https://translate.google.ie/translat...k-3&edit-text= … via @JoergForbrig

    Moscow's next trap for Kyiv? @vesti reports Minsk 3 proposal to include autonomy for full Luhansk/Donetsk oblasts, amnesty for rebels......creation of national militia, gov't reshuffle or snap election in Kyiv http://vesti-ukr.com/donbass/103515-...tovili-minsk-3 …
    Well that trial balloon did not last long----went over like a "lead balloon it seems"

    RBC: The Kremlin has denied reports about offering a "compromise" on Donbass to Kiev. https://twitter.com/ru_rbc/status/610404062798942208 …

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears the "locals" seem to be getting fed up with their mercenary government now they are conducting "flash demos".

    Zaharchenko tries to pacify protesting anti-war crowd not very successful https://youtu.be/TkDWt_oAk64

    Donetsk: #Zakharchenko can not calm the residents. Some people begin to disperse, others provide further questions. https://twitter.com/aa_borodulin/sta...94528084828160 …

    Zaharchenko promises the residents of Oktyabrsky, whose homes have been destroyed, a safe place to stay. #Doentsk pic.twitter.com/wsJJsGsGQB

    People in Donetsk stage a peace protest. For the first time since the war began https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/15...astern-ukraine …

    Quote:
    Local residents call out:'Stop the war' 'Give our destroyed housing back' 'Away with you all'


    novayagazeta.ru/news/1694493.html … About 500 people turn out for anti-war protest in Donetsk. Zakharchenko addresses the crowd, who yell & interrupt him
    Donetsk resident in flash rally against DNR's use of residential quarters as shelling launch-sites; "get out of here" http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1694493.html …

    Protesters in Donetsk say terrorists shell from residential areas and these are hit in response: http://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1694493.html …

    That's what I've said about, they demand to 'fling back UKR arty' according to Lifenews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B12Y...ature=youtu.be …
    More commenting on this topic----

    youtube.com/watch?v=9GmN7HHo2VY … Surprise! #Donetsk's #Russia-picked #Zakharchenko cornered by war-ravaged locals. pic.twitter.com/cxNZ5irXTB
    Looks like Donetsk's already famous "anti-war" rally also featured people calling to push back Ukrainian troops.

    Anti-war rally in #Donetsk (unclear who organized)
    Zakharchenko: What's your name?
    Lady: No way! So that I get shot?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkDW...ature=youtu.be …

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    It is interesting to see how the American “Left” is positioning itself over the Ukraine.

    Even though this writer is American—he words and arguments are largely the same ones being used by Russian propaganda.

    It also appears that the American “Left” still is roaming the world in search of something that does not exist and fell apart in 1991.

    Russian propaganda 4Ds--dismiss, distract, distort, dismay ---all designed to create 2Ds--distrust and doubt.

    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/...agreement-dead

    Kiev Pronounces Minsk Agreement Dead
    June 14th, 2015

    by Stephen Lendman

    It was dead on arrival like the two previous 2014 ceasefire agreements - not worth the paper they were written on despite Russia and Donbass freedom fighters fully observing them.

    The Kiev Post is a junta regime house organ. Its reports are virtual press releases. Independent journalism is banned in Ukraine.

    Regime approved views alone are permitted. Violators risk harassment, arrests, imprisonment or death.

    On June 5, the Kiev Post headlined Minsk is Dead: Now What?"

    The broadsheet turned truth on its head claiming a nonexistent "Russia(n) renewed military offensive in eastern Ukraine provides the latest evidence that the Kremlin violates the Minsk II peace agreement at will."

    Fact: No so-called "Russian aggression" exists - not now or earlier. Claims otherwise are Big Lies.

    Fact: The whole world knows Kiev and Washington bear full responsibility for naked aggression on Donbass. It continues daily.

    The Kiev Post called prospects for peace dim. It failed to explain why. It lied claiming "Russian-separatist forces launched a renewed assault on…Maryinka."

    Kiev and Washington bear full responsibility for all acts of aggression on Donbass. Self-defense forces respond only in self-defense as international law allows.

    Illegitimate Kiev prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk lied claiming Russia "order(ed) its terrorists" to attack Ukrainian forces. Truth is polar opposite - what Western leaders and echo chamber media refuse to acknowledge despite clear irrefutable evidence.

    The rest of the Kiev Post's report was full of rubbish blaming Donbass freedom fighters for blatant junta crimes.

    On June 11, Russia's Foreign Ministry accused Washington of destabilizing Ukraine in a statement saying:

    "Unlike Russia, the United States not only fails to make any real efforts to resolve the crisis in Ukraine and prevent a humanitarian catastrophe in the (eastern) Luhansk and Donetsk regions, but in fact it spurs the current authorities in Kiev to continue the fratricidal civil conflict."

    On June 10, Kiev for the first time claimed Russia occupies Donbass (the so-called Anti-Terrorist Zone). A letter signed by its illegitimate foreign minister Pavlo Klimkin states:

    "Taking into account the aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine, which took place with the participation of regular (units) of the Armed Forces of the RF and the illegal armed formations, which are directed, ruled and financed by the Russian Federation, an anti-terrorist operation is being carried out…"

    "The Russian Federation, which in fact occupied separate territories of the Donetsk and Lugansk Regions and carries out management of them, bears full responsibility for the provision and protection of human rights in these territories in accordance with the international humanitarian legislation and internationally established human rights."

    Kiev blames Russia for its own high crimes. It outrageous accused Moscow of seizing control of 169 Ukrainian municipalities.

    On June 10, Tass reported Ukraine intending to impose a complete food, transport and financial blockade on Donbass based on pending legislation, according to Ukrainian Choice public movement leader Viktor Medvedchuk.

    This means Donbass residents "will be left by the state to their devices," he explained. Kiev "is not even trying to launch the negotiation process with the Donetsk and Lugansk republics."

    Meanwhile, Russians overwhelmingly support Putin. Recent Pew Research poll numbers showed his approval rating reached 88%.

    His Ukraine policy has 83% popular support. Relations with China are supported by 90% of Russians, and his US agenda got an 85% approval rating.
    Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

    His new book as editor and contributor is titled "Flashpoint in Ukraine: How the US Drive for Hegemony Risks World War III".

    http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BREAKING: SURPRISING FINAL RESULTS IN MOLDOVA ELECTIONS(CHISINAU) - PRO-EU CAND. 37%, PRO-RUSSIAN 36%! WILL BE SETTLED IN 2ND ROUND

    #Russia passports handed out in #Transnistria as Russian media claim #Ukraine planning war: http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1434310866 … pic.twitter.com/OiXRG8xcYO
    Read here abt Russia's incredible claims that Ukraine is planning to attack Transnistria. Russia's purpose not clear http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1434310866 …

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    Sweden Denounces Russias Unpredictable Airspace Provocations http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...e-provocations … pic.twitter.com/6lXOk8ie4I

    Has Givi died from his wounds?
    https://twitter.com/raging545/status/610450898687512576 …

    Report: #Givi the leader of the "battalion "Somalia" DOA after a shell hit the militant's HQ in #Donetsk http://patrioty.org.ua/likaryam-ne-v...rt-svogo-bosa/ …

    Zakharchenko: DNR is an independent country and will not be part of Ukraine http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...untry-and-wont … via @EgoRZemtsoV

    And it is a violation of Minsk agreement. There are no "DNR" or "LNR" there https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/610466297474846720 …

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    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...eal-nightmare/

    Putin’s unrealizable dream vs. his all too-real nightmare

    2015/06/15 •

    That Vladimir Putin lives in a different reality than do other world leaders is now more or less common ground. Now, two commentators have described respectively what the Kremlin leader dreams about and what his worst nightmare might turn out to be.

    In a commentary of Kyiv’s “Novoye vremya,” Yury Felshtinsky, a Russian historian who now lives in the US, says that Putin’s dream is that the world will treat his Russia as having a status equal to that of the United States, something the writer says is beyond his capacity to achieve.

    For Putin, Felshtinsky says, “the US is the main problem. Not Chechnya, not Georgia and not Ukraine.” But he has a problem: “Perhaps America would be glad to recognize Russia as an equal partner but Russia has nothing besides Gazprom, and the earnings of Gazprom are less than those of the American company Apple.”

    “America has no ideology regarding Russia. It wants to see Russia as it wants to see everyone else as a peaceful and reliable partner in politics and business,” he continues. However, “there cannot be relations of parity between the two because Russia in the literal sense is not a great power. It exports raw materials and imports everything else.”

    “Over the course of the last century,” he writes, Russia “has destroyed its farmers and its own intellectuals, carried out the terror famine in Ukraine, and conducted a global purge of its own Soviet communist nomenklatura and army. And the Soviet Union fought with Hitler only because the latter attacked it.”

    In contrast, “Washington dreams only about one thing” – that Russia will stop causing problems. “No one ever expected anything good from Russia, only something bad,” although when periods of a warming of the relationship happen, “all are ready to accept this as a long-term strategic change and look with hope into the eyes of Putin, a KGB guy who, as President Bush said, one could believe.”

    “Unfortunately,” he writes, “ordinary Americans on the whole do not think or know anything about the Russian-Ukrainian conflict: if you turn on the main American television channels, you won’t hear about Crimea, Luhansk or the Donbas.”

    And when Putin annexed Crimea, “almost all world leaders indicated to Putin that they were ready to recognize the annexation if Putin would declare an end to his plans for seizing the territory of the former Soviet republics.” Putin spat in their faces, declaring the existence of a Russian world that he would defend and denying that Ukraine was a state at all.

    But now it is clear that Putin’s Russia doesn’t have the resources to carry out his threats. “There is a lot of boldness, bluffing, and even more bad behavior, but the boorishness of Zhirinovsky and Rogozin won’t help you to take on America.” What you can do and what Putin has done is to harm Russia.”

    “One can intimidate the entire world with nuclear weapons; one can help Iran and North Korea; one can kill Nemtsov; one can poison Kara-Murza; and one can ban the import of sprats from the Baltics,” Felshtinsky says. But those who will suffer as a result of this ban are not the Balts but the Russians.

    Putin, of course, “is thinking in other categories. This is already not about money; it is about eternity, empire and glory. Putin has to prepare Russia for global isolation from the West in the case of the beginning of a major war. Sprats are a serious test of Russians’ firmness, because if they are not ready to live without sprats, they won’t fight for Putin. But if they will, then they will be able to do everything else.”

    “The time for talks with Russia, unfortunately, has passed,” Felshtinsky concludes. “Russia does not plan to reach agreement with the West, but the West sincerely does not understand how one can reach an agreement with a negotiating partner if he does not plan to agree on anything.”

    If Putin’s dream is to have his country be treated as the equal of the United States, his nightmare is that he is on course to become a second Gorbachev and preside over the disintegration of his country into a plethora of smaller states with himself ousted from the stage of big politics and history.

    In a comment on Ekho Moskvy, Aleksandr Goldfarb, the head of the Litvinenko Foundation in London, says that there are some good reasons why Putin may have such fears. The Soviet Union fell apart “quickly and unexpectedly” because of the coming together of five factors: there was a war in Afghanistan, a collapse in oil prices, the non-existence of the Soviet economy, corruption and cynicism among the elite, and pressure from the West.

    Now, all five of these have been recreated: there is a war in Ukraine, a collapse in oil prices, a systemic economic crisis, corruption and “colossal income differentiation,” and Western sanctions and “a course directed at isolating Russia.”

    “Economists predict,” Goldfarb says, “that the stabilization fund will run out of money within a year, that then inflation will reach 25 percent and social dissatisfaction will rise. Oil apparently isn’t going to become more expensive. The Ukrainian fiasco will be no smaller than [the Soviet one] in Afghanistan, and the West will not weaken sanctions.”

    Moreover, he continues, “whatever anyone says, [the West] has clearly adopted a course directed at regime change” in Russia. “In this situation, Putin has three options.”

    First, he can leave office and transfer power to one of his slightly less corrupt comrades in arms, hoping against hope that they won’t turn him over to the international court even as they reverse his policies and his support disappears “like smoke.”

    Second, Putin can “tighten the screws, extend the war, completely break with the West and build a mobilization economy.” That could extend his rule for “many years,” but he could achieve these things only by instituting the kind of purges of his colleagues that Stalin used to maintain his power.

    And “finally” there is “the third path: do nothing and await the collapse of the economy, an uncontrolled disintegration with an unpredictable outcome” as the situation spins “out of control.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    OSCE in Vienna is holding a conference on journalism in conflict/war zones and the protection of journalists.

    Propaganda is not the main problem, the main problem is double standards - a key message from Russian delegation #journosafeOSCE Weird!

    Russian delegation complains about 'double standards': why everybody trash their propaganda, but ignore Ukrainian
    #journosafeOSCE

    Russian delegation attack Ukraine at #journosafeOSCE. But there are 35 of us from Ukraine. We will answer

    Ban of Russian channels, detention of journos from Russia, arrests of anti-war reporters in Ukraine, Russian rep complains

    Sweden to the OSCE @SwedeninATOSCE
    @OSCE @OSCE_RFoM #JournoSafeOSCE apparently also an arena for Russian misinformation: laughter around the room as we hear known narrative

    #Russia rep to #OSCE: "propaganda can be different" , "Russia is the only OSCE place where there is NO crisis #journosafeOSCE

    There are multiply audible smirks at #journosafeOSCE while Russian rep goes on with a primary example of whataboutism pic.twitter.com/ZeLA3a1M1Q

    Russian oppositional journalist was surprised to see Russian propaganda on #journosafeOSCE - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater … pic.twitter.com/8l2QkuoX9V

    Russia brought their fantasy books about some concentration camps in Ukraine. Again. They do this again after Belgrad. #journosafeOSCE
    As tension rises in room, Russian commenter says: "What ever we don't like, we call propaganda." #journosafeOSCE

    A participant has just accused the OSCE of deliberately displaying "anti-Russian" tweets at #journosafeOSCE conference Nonsense.

    Russian delegation accuses me, @StankoNastya of hijacking #journosafeOSCE hashtag, being paid by 'intl Russophobic orgs' whatever it means ��
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 06-15-2015 at 04:31 PM.

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    100+ Hectares On Fire After Grad Attack Near Tryokhizbenka - Forestry Agency http://bit.ly/1cVUU1W pic.twitter.com/6gjL4z8Y9m

    #Report
    Constant attacks on #Pisky, among them 120 mm mortar strikes, killed one Ukrainian trooper today.

    #Pictures
    Russian forces keep shelling #Avdeevka residential areas on a daily basis, using 122 mm artillery.
    #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/ixaVBpLKvR

    'Novorossiya' Is Not Dead - Separatist Leaders Discuss Unification With Each Other, Not With Ukraine http://bit.ly/1BdEM

    Zakharchenko has announced "offensive military exercises" around #Donetsk

    Rus OSCE envoy: the real separatists are not #Donbas fighters but those in #Ukraine who impose a blockade on them pic.twitter.com/yFItvYOUrq

    Wonder if GWP's cell/mobile signal gave #Ukraine the lock-on to target Givi & his thugs?
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    Ah........now we know the core demand from Putin--let's see the current list of countries that want to join NATO are the Ukraine, Moldavia, Georgia, and several from the Balkans ---so in fact does Putin want a full veto right over NATO actions and decisions????

    A guarantee of no @NATO expansion in the East would significantly reduce tensions in relations between Russia and the West, Kudrin claims.

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    Two Soldiers Wounded In Lugansk Region As Shells Strike Residential Areas http://bit.ly/1C8XzMk pic.twitter.com/tqfEtHBqcG

    #Mariupol 7:35PM
    Canonade can be heard in the city.

    Today RU forces 33 times shelled UKR positions using almost all types of weapons. Hottest area in Donetsk direction
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...61&__tn__=%2As

    Over the weekend, OSCE recorded 594 explosions in and around Donetsk airport
    JUNE 14 REPORT http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/164491

    Chechen Battalions in #Ukraine (named for Dudaev & Sheikh Mansour) meet and reaffirm their unity https://www.facebook.com/JovharEskar...34280876660161

    3 #Ukrainian soldiers killed & 2 wounded in combats near #Maryinka today

    Here's the alleged [telephone] denial from Givi.. (via Kremlin outlet LifeNews)
    http://lifenews.ru/news/155666

    S.Koshkina,@lb_ua, rep. of #Russia's special forces arrived to #Ukraine during #Maidan at least 3 times pic.twitter.com/f36pUmZLq7

    Once more - breaking down Russia's foreign propaganda outlets. pic.twitter.com/XVJMG6JP3n

    Interesting in that Russia has not confirmed that they have withdrawn the Iskanders from Kaliningrad that it stationed there during a recent snap exercise. They went in but no one can confirm they came out.

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More commenting on this topic----

    youtube.com/watch?v=9GmN7HHo2VY … Surprise! #Donetsk's #Russia-picked #Zakharchenko cornered by war-ravaged locals. pic.twitter.com/cxNZ5irXTB
    Looks like Donetsk's already famous "anti-war" rally also featured people calling to push back Ukrainian troops.

    Anti-war rally in #Donetsk (unclear who organized)
    Zakharchenko: What's your name?
    Lady: No way! So that I get shot?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkDW...ature=youtu.be …
    People @ #Donetsk rally shouted: "Shame on "DPR!" "U made us live shield!" "DPR" betrayed us&took families 2 Rostov!" pic.twitter.com/1cTJGzleTY

    GWP spotted in #Donetsk at the anti-war rally, introducing his 'media handler' to a woman :-)
    https://youtu.be/FPZ9XkHzCQs?t=2m9s … pic.twitter.com/KQ35DPSc1L

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More commenting on this topic----

    youtube.com/watch?v=9GmN7HHo2VY … Surprise! #Donetsk's #Russia-picked #Zakharchenko cornered by war-ravaged locals. pic.twitter.com/cxNZ5irXTB
    Looks like Donetsk's already famous "anti-war" rally also featured people calling to push back Ukrainian troops.

    Anti-war rally in #Donetsk (unclear who organized)
    Zakharchenko: What's your name?
    Lady: No way! So that I get shot?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkDW...ature=youtu.be …
    Telling comment by a so called ethnic Russian Ukrainian----interesting he openly calls the DNR forces cowards for hiding behind civilians

    Man says there is no #Minsk, never was; & DPR should go & fight in the fields w/ #Ukraine forces, not at their homeshttps://youtu.be/FPZ9XkHzCQs?t=10s …

    Human shields: essentially the man is saying DPR not to use residential areas as cover to fire from, at #Ukraine troops, who fire back.

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    Ukrainian authorities say 10 soldiers have been killed & 20 wounded in the past 24 hours. equals Escalation

    S.Koshkina, Ed @lb_ua: #Crimea annexation & #Odessa 2 May were thoroughly planned by #Russia pic.twitter.com/HzaHWI6eQ5

    Azov:
    There is some good painters out there in the big world, thats for sure. pic.twitter.com/DDHjY7hdAp

    Russia AND NATO Both Up The Ante, Both Discuss Moving Arms Into Eastern Europe http://bit.ly/1C90u7I pic.twitter.com/nYQ8RyY7jD

    .@OSCE_SMM drone spotted 60 tanks, 6 howitzers, 23 APCs in separatist territory E and S of Donetsk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...itzers-23-apcs

    #Russia(n) websites reporting #Putin terrorist "Givi" died from wounds http://myrussianews.ru/politika/smi-...givi-ymer.html … pic.twitter.com/sLfIboaQlr
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 06-15-2015 at 06:39 PM.

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    Russia threatens the US if it stations weapons near the Russian borders BUT then it somehow forgot it signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act…………………..

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

    #Russia agreed with #NATO PREPOSITIONING in 1997. Check out NATO-Russia Founding Act part IV http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/jqeu8eVhIp

    Part IV Continued…………

    NATO reiterates that in the current and foreseeable security environment, the Alliance will carry out its collective defence and other missions by ensuring the necessary interoperability, integration, and capability for reinforcement rather than by additional permanent stationing of substantial combat forces. Accordingly, it will have to rely on adequate infrastructure commensurate with the above tasks. In this context, reinforcement may take place, when necessary, in the event of defence against a threat of aggression and missions in support of peace consistent with the United Nations Charter and the OSCE governing principles, as well as for exercises consistent with the adapted CFE Treaty, the provisions of the Vienna Document 1994 and mutually agreed transparency measures. Russia will exercise similar restraint in its conventional force deployments in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia threatens the US if it stations weapons near the Russian borders BUT then it somehow forgot it signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act…………………..

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

    #Russia agreed with #NATO PREPOSITIONING in 1997. Check out NATO-Russia Founding Act part IV http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/jqeu8eVhIp
    US affirmed Budapest Memo + no NATO for Ukraine in 2009. Nothing scary for Russia til Euromaidan booted Putin puppet https://twitter.com/liveuamap/status/610507600124317697 …

    #Russia says will retaliate if U.S. weapons stationed on its borders
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0OV17A20150615 …

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    @LUGANSK_TODAY
    BREAKING
    #Russian neo-nazi identified as paratrooper who took part in #Crimea annexation. READ http://lugansk-news.com/russian-neo-...ea-annexation/ … pic.twitter.com/Y0wvaOT5Rf

    @LUGANSK_TODAY another soldier from the same unit identified. Read details at http://lugansk-news.com/putin-ghost-...ers-of-crimea/ … pic.twitter.com/gT0Yd4esyS

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