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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    IF this is in fact correct THEN is an interesting turniong point regardless of whether the fighting is still occurring.

    Russia attempted to get the Ukraine to pay for the electricity and natural gas they were shipping to the mercenaries and the Ukraine refused and argued that they are not bound by any legal contract to pay and for Russia if they wanted to they could take it to the Swedish Court--WHICH russia did not do.

    This Russian tactic had been successful in their Georgian enclave so they assumed it would work again.

    I have stated here a number of times that while Russia want a "frozen conflict" it was appearing more and more than in fact the Ukraine was "freezing Russia into a serious problem"--how to extract itself from the eastern Ukraine without a serious loss of even more money which has been estimated to be costing Russia 30 to 40M USDs per day to support the mercenaries.

    In addition today there was a report from the Russian Finance Ministry indicating that out of the 500 banks in Russia 300 might have to be shut down due to bank failures and only 100 will remain---Russia is having some serious unannounced financial issues that some analysts stated would be occurring in the 3rd quater--this decision on the electricity can mean that this is in fact.

    If one also looks at the apparent battlefiled failures by the newly from Russian regulars trained mercenary forces and that virtual no new territory has been captured since Feb. even the early battlefield successes have not been repeated.


    http://news.yahoo.com/russia-cuts-of...155519945.html

    Russia cuts off power supplies to Ukraine rebels: Kiev

    AFP By Dmitry Zaks

    1 hour ago
    This is the first real indicator that the tipping point has been reached in the Russian non linear war against the Ukraine.

    I had posted on the previous Ukraine war thread a recent military analysis on Putin's non linear warfare where the author indicated that the longest the Russians could maintain the military pressure was roughly one year.

    Meaning they had one year to be successful or their adventure would be a failure.

    The Russians openly entered eastern Ukraine with ten of their "lost" soldiers being captured in August 2014 so we are close to the first full year.

    Then this today and it is the first indicator next to several military indicators that the Russian non linear warfare may in fact be failing.

    I had previously indicated that there were four major single points of failure and now all four have been reached-----yes the fighting might go on for awhile but Putin's eastern Ukraine adventure is over--and I do think he knows it.

    He has reached a point where if he wants to expand the Donbass region he will have to go the full invasion route--and he knows then the sanctions response will be massive and it will hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    This is the first real indicator that the tipping point has been reached in the Russian non linear war against the Ukraine.

    I had posted on the previous Ukraine war thread a recent military analysis on Putin's non linear warfare where the author indicated that the longest the Russians could maintain the military pressure was roughly one year.

    Meaning they had one year to be successful or their adventure would be a failure.

    The Russians openly entered eastern Ukraine with ten of their "lost" soldiers being captured in August 2014 so we are close to the first full year.

    Then this today and it is the first indicator next to several military indicators that the Russian non linear warfare may in fact be failing.

    I had previously indicated that there were four major single points of failure and now all four have been reached-----yes the fighting might go on for awhile but Putin's eastern Ukraine adventure is over--and I do think he knows it.

    He has reached a point where if he wants to expand the Donbass region he will have to go the full invasion route--and he knows then the sanctions response will be massive and it will hurt.
    Appears AFP was positioning a story that had half truths--the question is for who?


    Ukraine Negotiates With Russia To Restructure Electricity Delivery For Separatist 'Republics'

    19:34 (GMT)

    AFP is reporting that Russia has cut electricity to Donetsk and Lugansk, territories controlled by the Russian-backed separatists:


    Ukraine's Energy Minister Volodymyr Demchyshyn said Tuesday that energy-rich Russia had recently also stopped supplying electricity to the militia-run regions of Lugansk and Donetsk because bills were not being paid.

    "We held fairly productive negotiations with the Russians," Interfax-Ukraine quoted Demchyshyn as telling an energy ministry meeting.

    "We have been able to switch off four lines that ran from Russia to territories outside our control."

    The energy minister said the cables supplied an allowance of $15 million (14 million euros) of power a month.

    "That money was not being paid," Demchyshyn said.

    The framing in the AFP article, however, leaves out an important detail -- the Ukrainian government is technically supposed to be paying this bill, and they have refused. This is just one of the disagreements between Russia and Ukraine which are being negotiated in the current round of talks about the price of natural gas sold to Ukraine. In an article published on June 15, Interfax explained the issue:

    "There are flows from the Russian Federation to the uncontrolled territories. We see them and we know about them, but they are not taken into account in payments. Russia has been warned that we are not taking these five lines into account and Ukraine will not pay for this electricity," [Yuriy Kasich, acting director at Ukrenergo, the Ukrainian national energy company] said.

    The Luhansk thermal power plant has been operating separately from the national power grid in mainland Ukraine since last year and power flows between Starobesheve and Zuyevska thermal power plants and Ukraine's national power grid have been minimal, Kasich also said.

    In addition, on May 7, 2015 the Ukrainian Cabinet determined that LEO and DonetskOblEnergo, based in the uncontrolled anti-terrorist operation (ATO) zone, should buy electricity directly from local producers and supply to local consumers without the state company Energorynok. Sale and purchase of electricity between mainland Ukraine and the uncontrolled ATO zone is banned. Only payments for net power flows are allowed. The government has also banned electricity imports through the rebel-held part of Donbas.

    This latest development is progress in the negotiations. Vladimir Demchishin, Ukraine's minister of power and the coal industry, told Interfax that he has successfully negotiated with Russia to have Moscow stop supplying electricity to areas of Donetsk and Lugansk region which are not under Ukrainian control (translated by The Interpreter:

    "We held fairly successful negotiations with the Russians; we managed to shut off 4 lines which had been running from the Russian side to the zone not controlled by us, and they had been supplying power monthly for 300 million hryvnias. And those bills are not being paid at the present time," he said at an expanded meeting of his ministry in Kiev today.

    According to Demchishin, a new plan of work with these territories, approved early by a decision of the Cabinet of Ministers, involves payment for overflows only, and enables saving about 800 million hryvnias per month.

    Demchishin noted that along with taking into account other measures, this enabled the increase of the level of payment for electric power from 85% in the first quarter to almost 100% in the second.

    "We expect that we will be able to maintain this level until the end of the year and that we will manage to buy both nuclear fuel and coal, he said.

    This does not mean that these areas will have no electricity, however. It does mean that Russia has accepted the fact that Ukraine will no longer pay for electricity in the Donbass. If the territories controlled by the Russian-backed fighters want power, they will have to either generate it themselves or Moscow will have to pay for it. Either way there have yet to be reports of widespread power outages, beyond the (already terrible) status quo.

    As such, the AFP article has misinterpreted a key aspect of this issue -- the electricity is not necessarily being cut, as much as Russia and Ukraine now both agree that Ukraine won't pay for it (they were refusing to do so anyway). AFP also used this article to echo a claim that this was another sign that Russia was cutting support for the separatists. That is not clear at all. In fact, there is no sign that Russian troops or armor in Ukraine have pulled back. The situation remains tense, fighting continues, and the conflict appears to be no closer to a resolution.


    -- James Miller, Catherine A. Fitzpatrick
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    Russia demands payment for secret shipment of weapons against Maidan :: http://khpg.org http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1436278200

    MP Timchuk has published data on the number of the Russian forces in Ukr and on the border pic.twitter.com/8qu92ULN00 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/7-july-...-on-the-number

    youtube.com/watch?v=ZwQ1hGIFbxo … #Russian journo obsessed w/ 'UkroNazis' calls #Ukraine's prez...by his putative #Jewish name pic.twitter.com/UlxIb18Z2A

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    Canada bows to @WhiteHouse pressure to not arm #Ukraine
    @EuromaidanPress @EuromaidanPR @pmharper @TedOpitz
    http://youtu.be/8xSSRJkQcRo

    Last night militant attacks intensified. Between 18:00-00:00 they shelled UKR positions 40 times - ATO press center

    Attacks Across Front Line In Donetsk Region Last Night And This Morning. http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...ts-river/#9045

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...25&__tn__=%2As

    One day they say: Slavyansk and Kramatorsk belong to "DPR", the other they they say they will retreat. War criminals can't be trusted...

    DPR" says it will withdraw from Marinka, Krasnogorovka and Gorlovka if Ukraine does same from Adviika and Shyrokyno
    http://novosti.dn.ua/details/254354/

    07:55 #Mariupol @sex_Dombas [UKR serviceman]: We were informed that all units must leave positions in #Shyrokyne.

    BRK
    Russian forces attacked an Ukr KAMAZ truck over the Seversky Donets with heavy machine guns & RPGs.
    1 KIA
    3 WIA
    pic.twitter.com/TT87VBXdVI

    VIDEO #Russia "AID" soldiers in #Ukraine hiding & covering faces - but forgot the flag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zj3pW55yVQ … #Putin pic.twitter.com/iU5kH6FsDM

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian volunteers presented military engineers with radio, navigators, optic tubes and thermal cameras pic.twitter.com/6RyFGHLw22

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    SBU detained Russian mercenary who fought for “LPR” unit of so-called “Russian Cossacks”

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian troops & emergency services help to repair railways damaged from militant shelling pic.twitter.com/0foe4sQS64

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    CEPA @cepa
    @CEPA releases new Intelligence Brief: "Is Mariupol Next?" http://goo.gl/VJ6AYt pic.twitter.com/LOyMHzjzw0

    Appears Russia has a problem with the past.

    Voice of America ✔ @VOANews
    With new internet ban, #Russia blocks access to nearly 20 years worth of web pages - http://bit.ly/1LO7a2Q pic.twitter.com/wIxS2lPsmB

    Russian military analyst Alexander Golts on the increasingly authoritarian tendencies of Russian law and justice. https://twitter.com/MoscowTimes/stat...04956315389952

    youtube.com/watch?v=er8mjhC88zM … Meet #Russia's LTG Romanchuk(JCCC). Speaks PERFECT Ukrainian. Special ops material. #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/p9EDf22tW9

    Russia has Reached Its Own Very Different ‘End of History’ and West has Failed to Recognize
    http://www.interpretermag.com/russia...-pavlova-says/ … pic.twitter.com/6dzaOdqSJt

    Russia's latest propaganda #fake
    Hoax letter attributed to @SenatorDurbin aims to disrupt #Ukraine

    http://abc7chicago.com/832079/

    Russia court ruled for #Ukraine to pay for 2014 flights bringing Russian weapons to suppress Euromaidan in #Kyiv
    http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2015/07/6/7073626/

    Ukraine holding the line in Shyrokyne, new defenses in Mariupol make invasion unlikely http://dailysign.al/1H5t5gr @nolanwpeterson @DailySignal

    No end to Russian protectionism against Ukraine: Imports down by 2/3. Now general quotas. Where is EU & WTO or US? http://www.vedomosti.ru/newsline/top...ainskii-import

    Russia|n Su-34 bombers use Garmin GPS Navigation. American. For tourists.TT @TimurKhorev
    Ukraine pic.twitter.com/bruR4CzfZl
    Reference the "fake' Durbin letter--perfect example of just how Russian disinformation--ie fake propaganda works.

    Hoax #Durbin letter was disseminated by Yanukovych clerk Ina Kirsch @we_in_brussels, Brussels resident. pic.twitter.com/0qWreh94NB

    "No fake?" - "It fits Sen. Durlin letters in past" - says Kirsch who immediately tries to mask herself as Cherry. pic.twitter.com/LMhTBUmPQS

    Kirsch is director of Yanukovych laundry in Brussels
    http://www.modernukraine.eu/contact-details/
    and Ukraine "expert" at @WienerZeitung pic.twitter.com/Py21Hmsz5N

    Hoax Sen Durbin letter's promoter and "Ukraine expert" in EU - Ina Kirsch - supports anti-US emotions in Germany. pic.twitter.com/24SyODHdD1

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    From the strange world of cyber warfare--a legal spyware company selling into the black market and then denying it was selling to the black market got caught at it.


    Over 400GB of files and e-mails from the Italian spyware manufacturers Hacking Team have been dumped online http://www.csoonline.com/article/294...mped-data.html

    HackingTeam hard at work tracking down the person who hacked their site: pic.twitter.com/JQ9V9ZuKjD

    Hacking Team never sold to Sudan? Here's the instructions for the 480,000 Euro wire transfer. cc @hackingteam pic.twitter.com/JqexHpvb3s

    hackingteam violated European Union sanctions by contracting with a Russian intelligence firm linked http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernst...sur#.gkVqQ8G0m

    hackingteam Selling “dual-use” technology to Russian military clients is banned under EU Ukraine-related sanctions,
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernst...sur#.fgPojx1oJ

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    IMO they just want Ukraine to retreat from Shyrokyne and thus hold a carrot in front of the donkey to get it done. pic.twitter.com/Y6Vc1J4VvP

    Russian 'anti-fascist' Strelkov aka Girkin: Key MH17 Crash Suspect Linked to Massacre of 3,000 #Muslims
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/igor-strelk...s-1992-1458304 … pic.twitter.com/I7LNsODLPZ

    Russia: "The creation of a court to investigate the MH17 downing is unacceptable, illogical and useless" http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-internat...ca-inutila.htm

    Jul 7 - #Tymchuk: 12'000 Russian troops amassed at Ukraine's border.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...e=1&permPage=1 … pic.twitter.com/fZvAXL7NIy

    An ex-DNR official now in Russia and a current commander in Donetsk both told me this wk: "Our forces are hugely outnumbered by #Ukraine's."

    Bridge over Siverskiy Donets near Shchastya is controlled by Ukraine from 2 ends + 50 meters. https://www.google.com/maps/place/48...!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 … pic.twitter.com/2nSymeaLBm

    Shellings have started early today………
    12:46 #Donetsk East @JRijJyY08AkRzL8 "I can hear volleys, like tanks and arty"
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    Ukroboronprom: 4,000 armored vehicles supplied to armed forces over past year http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ar-392963.html

    Aerial reconnaissance of Dnipro-1 filmed another proof of Russian army presence in Ukraine VIDEO http://en.censor.net.ua/n343008

    These pro-#Russia guys took #Strelkov's 'fool or moron' comment so personally I had to quell the rebellion. pic.twitter.com/IJSjTjgClk

    SBU detains moderator of 500 anti-Ukrainian groups in social networks
    http://www.unian.info/society/109859...-networks.html … pic.twitter.com/IY2i3XpNkW

    Pro-#Russia troll playbook: #Ukraine is Nazi, fascist, anti-Semitic & is run by #Jews! Yes, Jews are the real Nazis! pic.twitter.com/5U4VNMqLh7

    Other Hotspots today - Opytne, Mariinka, Avdiivka, Krymske, Stanytsia Luhanska & Trehizbenka – ATO

    7am this morning militants fired on Bakhchovyk with 152mm artillery. This afternoon bombarded Pisky with heavy artillery – ATO

    Today (as of 18:00) militants more than 20 times shelled UKR positions. Used Mortars, artillery, RPGs - ATO
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...97&__tn__=%2As

    Oleksandr Motuzyanyk: Ukrainian special services detain Russian mercenary and “LPR” militant group member
    http://uacrisis.org/28198-oleksandr-motuzyanik-12

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    http://www.unian.info/war/1098553-dp...n=DTN+Ukraine:

    DPR leader: withdrawal from Shyrokyne serves as trap for Ukrainian troops

    08.07.2015 | 18:21

    Leader of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) militant organization Oleksandr Zakharchenko claims that the village of Shyrokyne, which is located near the Ukrainian-controlled city of Mariupol, serves as a trap for Ukrainian troops now, after DPR militants withdrew to nearby fortified positions, according to Mariupol local news portal 0629.ua.

    Asked about whether there were fears that the territory of Shyrokyne would become a bridgehead for Ukrainian armed forces after the withdrawal of the DPR troops, Zakharchenko said that it is now a trap rather than a bridgehead, 0629.ua reported referring to his interview with the separatist-controlled media outlet PRT.

    "The terrain in Shyrokyne is lowland, where there are two dominating heights. One side of the village is controlled by Ukraine, the other one is under our control. We withdrew to a commanding point. Therefore, this can serve as a trap [for Ukrainian troops] rather than a bridgehead. There are no fears, as the terrain is sophisticated from one side, the positions are well-prepared, so these 1.5 kilometers play no tactical role but politically they are decisive," Zakharchenko said.

    Thus, the portal wrote, Zakharchenko confirmed that the withdrawal of the DPR troops from Shyrokyne to the nearby dominating heights had been a political move pending the Minsk meeting on the settlement of the Ukrainian crisis on July 7.

    As UNIAN reported earlier, Russian-backed militants withdrew from the village of Shyrokyne early in July. The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine confirmed their withdrawal.

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    Appears that Gazprom is out of money.

    Russia short of cash? "Turkmenistan says Russia's Gazprom has not paid for any gas this year." http://reut.rs/1MeMmzJ via @ReutersUK

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears that Gazprom is out of money.

    Russia short of cash? "Turkmenistan says Russia's Gazprom has not paid for any gas this year." http://reut.rs/1MeMmzJ via @ReutersUK
    BREAKING: ROMANIAN PROSECUTORS SEIZE 2 BILLION EUROS FROM LUKOIL ASSETS FOR MONEY LAUNDERING http://anticoruptie.hotnews.ro/stiri...ile-lukoil.htm … pic.twitter.com/AZ1uL5HgiT

    THE SEIZURE INCLUDES AMOUNTS IN DIFFEENT ACCOUNTS IN UK AND NETHERLANDS, AS WELL AS SHARES OWNED IN ROMANIAN REFINERIES

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    Russia inserts Lt-Gen Romanchuk into JCCC, Ukraine - Romanchuk is Deputy Commander of Southern Military District (HQ Rostov-on-Don)

    Russian Spetsnaz units of Southern Military District conducted training operation in urban warfare. Mariupol? https://twitter.com/mod_russia/statu...41437086588928

    Russia forgot to warn its citizens that going to #Ukraine as selfie-taking soldiers is also deadly.
    @RJisTrouble4U pic.twitter.com/ssxfJZIKZN

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    http://www.interpretermag.com/putin-...larionov-says/

    Putin has Barricaded Himself in the Dead End He has Created,’ Illarionov Says

    Paul Goble

    July 8, 2015

    Staunton, July 5 – “Putin has finally decided” to block all of the ways out from “the dead end into which he has driven himself and Russia,” Andrey Illarionov says, prompting the West to oppose him more vigorously, creating a disaster for Russia, and setting the stage for the ultimate restoration of Ukrainian control over the Donbas and Crimea.

    The Kremlin leader’s use of nuclear blackmail led the leaders of Germany and France to sign the Minsk accords, the Russian commentator says, but his repeated use of the same tactic has forced the West to adopt a confrontational strategy given the dangers Putin’s policy entails.

    Putin continues to try to present this situation as “a dead end into which he supposedly has been driven,” Illarionov continues. But “in fact, it was not the West that drove him into this corner but he himself. More than that, he continues in this direction ever further and deeper,” while carefully “barricading” Russia from any of the ways out he might have pursued.

    Given that Russia has nuclear weapons and a 700,000-man army, the commentator says, that alone “forces millions of people throughout the entire world to be afraid” of what the Kremlin may do next.

    “That is the tragedy of the present situation,” Illarionov says, “because hundreds of millions of people directly depend on Putin. Their lives, health and well-being really depend on the decisions of one man. But the problem is that in the contemporary world, ordinary citizens, the expert community and the leaders of the Western countries don’t know how to respond.”

    As a result, “the only way out of this situation” is likely to be “a continuation of the confrontation” which has plunged the world into a Cold War and a situation which “could take on other hotter forms.” And that reality, Illarionov says, is “not susceptible to easy and simple predictions.”

    That in turn means that “this war will have various stages. But at its end, Ukraine will regain control over the occupied territories,” the commentator says, adding that he is “very much concerned that for Russia this will not be the only geopolitical consequences of the end of this confrontation.”

    Illarionov analyzes Putin from the perspective of someone who has consistently opposed the Kremlin leader’s actions in Ukraine. But what is truly frightening is some who have supported Putin look at the same situation he does and conclude that Putin must get out of the current impasse by going over to the offensive.

    One such writer, Aleksey Anpilogov, in an article in Aleksandr Prokhanov’s Zavtra, pointedly asks “Is it possible to win a war while sitting in a fortress? Even if this fortress covers a sixth of the earth’s surface, has 146 million residents, and whose ancestors have left it a powerful arsenal of conventional and nuclear arms?”

    The greatest theoreticians of war, he continues, say otherwise. They argue that “wars have always been won exclusively by attacks,” and those who adopt a defensive position typically create a situation in which “the army and people sitting in a fortress lose their opportunities for action day by day, exhaust their resources and demoralize their soldiers.”

    The conflict between Russia and the West “isn’t going to disappear. War and the siege of the fortress will be extended just as Alarich’s barbarians continued the siege of Rome even after various ‘armistices’ and declarations about ‘eternal friendship.’” At the end of it, “the thousand-year Rome” was overwhelmed by the barbarians marching through its streets.


    One wants to believe, Anpilogov continues, that “the Russian elite understands this and doesn’t have any illusions regarding the iron curtain of the West” which may take on many forms but which will never be eliminated as long as the two are locked in confrontation.

    “Russia has no friends in Kyiv. But both the West and Russia have interests there which must be achieved. The interest of Russia is in the lifting of the blockade from its fortress – but unfortunately for this to happen, one must attack.” Acting as if Russia can simply sit in its fortress and wait is no way to win a war, he concludes.
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    New footage of Russian Army base in Lugansk.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOYuRvRWWow

    How Russian Lobbyists Are Manipulating American Perceptions of the Ukraine Conflict" http://www.theblaze.com/contribution...aine-conflict/

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    Cyber warfare in real time--eye opener


    holy crap, America getting cyber-attacked big time right now, real-time map over here

    http://map.norsecorp.com/

    most attacks out of #ChinaJ


    Jonathan Schanzer
    ‏@JSchanzer Try not to think of it so much as a cyber attack, but rather an effort to degrade and ultimately defeat our economic power.
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    AND Russia “threatens again”-----------Reference Moldavia and Transnistria

    http://tass.ru/en/russia/807074

    Moscow: Transformation of Dniester peacekeeping operation to provoke new armed conflict

    Russia
    July 08, 21:51 UTC+3

    The fact that not a single peacekeeper has died since the operation started proves that it has been effective, Sergey Gubarev, ambassador at large of the Russian Foreign Ministry, told TASS

    Russia says concerned by stagnation of talks on Transdniestria peace process

    MOSCOW, July 8 /TASS/. The transformation of a peacekeeping operation in Moldova’s unrecognized Dniester region may radically aggravate the situation and provoke a new armed conflict, Sergey Gubarev, ambassador at large of the Russian Foreign Ministry, said in an interview with TASS on Wednesday.

    "In their official speeches Moldovan leaders (and not only them) are constantly calling for the transformation of the peacekeeping operation in the Dniester Republic into a multinational police mission despite the fact that the presidents of Moldova, the Dniester region and Russia highly appreciated its stabilizing role in a joint declaration signed in Moscow on March 18, 2009," Gubarev, who represents Russia at a permanent conference held as part of negotiations for the Dniester settlement, said.

    According to him, the peacekeeping operation made it possible to establish effective control over the Security zone straight from start and prevent incidents from growing dramatically uncontrollable. "The fact that not a single peacekeeper has died since the operation started proves that it has been effective," Gubarev added.

    "The transformation of the peacekeeping operation in the Security zone may spur the sides to new armed confrontation. If this is the result sought by the ‘transformation’ advocates, then they will bear full responsibility for the emergence of a new trouble spot," Gubarev stressed.

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    Watch our whole @Channel4 film #FromRussiaWithCash exposing London's dirty secret here. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/f...mand/60105-001

    Online museum of Russian invasion of Ukraine features section on #Russia|n Neo-nazis
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/07/0...ian-neo-nazis/ … pic.twitter.com/qtDXH6sKmW

    Drone filmed militants equipment on the outskirts of Luhansk http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/9-july-...uipment-on-thehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOYuRvRWWow

    Ukraine UAV / drone shot at by #Russia-backed forces July 2
    Geolocation SE #Luhansk

    https://www.google.com.ua/maps/place...s0x0:0x0?hl=ru
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    Soon we will present high-res photos from some of our drone's flights http://www.peoplesproject.com/en/fir...s-uav-complex/

    Patriot battery on the Turkish-Syrian border was hacked.
    Could turn worse than Russian Buk
    http://europe.newsweek.com/german-mi...-source-329980 … pic.twitter.com/lkfSqKNRA9

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    According to Lavrov annexation of Crimea is done deal now. Next thing he'll come up with: MH17 is closed issue too. https://twitter.com/uatodaytv/status/619087069743325184

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    "#Russia & Russia-backed Militants Do Not Abide by the Minsk Agreements"
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    My assessment today is that Russia presents the greatest threat to our national security" - Gen Dunford, Obama's next Joint Chiefs chairman

    ATO: There's over 8000 RU troops in Donbas, equipped with 512 armoured vehicles, 147 arty guns, 190 tanks & 83 MLRS

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    Russian Army BAZ-6403 Tank Transporter at Luhansk base 6/6/15 http://www.military-today.com/trucks/baz_6403.htm … @Aero_Dnipro1 @RobPulseNews pic.twitter.com/idOIt3MTMY

    Dnipro-1" photo from 6 June 2015 shows many Russian army trucks at Luhansk have white aerial identification markings pic.twitter.com/VxjcZWtRKj

    Will The OSCE’s ‘Water Truce’ Keep The Peace? http://bit.ly/1HhTTfS pic.twitter.com/QQneM9lNXG

    Regiment "Dnipro-1" on the front line. From Pisky to Mariupol, fighting for freedom of Ukraine
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    Berlin and the Minsk trap

    Commentary
    Gustav Gressel

    03rd July, 2015

    When the implementation agreement on the September ceasefire was signed in Minsk on February 11th (later referred to as Minsk II agreement), there was an enormous amount to scepticism about the real effect and feasibility of the agreement. It was seen, at best, as the start of a difficult process towards peace, not as a perfect solution nor as a definitive end to the Russian-Ukrainian war.

    German negotiators and politicians too were sceptical. The key points of the agreement were only vaguely defined, giving huge scope for interpretation, and ideas about how to implement them differed considerably amongst the parties. On top of this, many of the issues addressed in Minsk II were and are incredibly difficult to implement and have long-term consequences for the conflict: the special status for the Donbas, the amnesty law, the local elections, resuming social transfers to the separatist areas, and proposed constitutional reform in Ukraine.

    But such considerations were seen as less important than securing an immediate end to the fighting. And the strict conditionality built into the treaty was designed to do that. Russia would only get benefits for the Donbas if the ceasefire lasted, heavy weapons were withdrawn, and the Russian Army left the Donbas. Eliminating foreign military presence justified the heavy burdens on Ukraine to finance and somehow legalise the strange constructs in the Donbas.

    Almost five months on since Minsk II was agreed, it is clear that none of the early conditions have been met. While fighting did indeed slow down after the fall of Debalcevo, fighting is now on the increase again. Most of the ceasefire violations are caused by the Russian side and heavy weapons have not been withdrawn. Larger battles like the battle for Marinka are marked by the appearance of regular Russian armoured formations.

    The OSCE is not capable of monitoring the ceasefire. Above all, it has no mandate and no capability to enforce it. In Eastern Ukraine, OSCE observers are allowed to drive only along roads in company with “separatist authorities” during the day. All routes have to be announced 24 hours in advance and woods, factories, barns, industrial storage facilities are never inspected at all.

    Nevertheless, since May 2015 German foreign minister Steinmeier has been urging the Ukrainian government to proceed with the implementation of their parts of the Minsk II agreement, despite the worsening situation on the front. EU Commissioner Hahn, responsible for the European neighbourhood, was even more explicit, calling on Ukraine to proceed with the later points of the Minsk agreement without waiting for Russia to comply with any of the previous points.

    Such statements are against the entire rationale behind the agreement. Concessions and benefits to Russia's puppet states were designed as a reward for de-escalation and withdrawal. If such a plan had been implemented, Ukraine and Europe would have been given financial responsibility for the Donbas while Putin would be relieved of any responsibility for the war.

    Why has the logic and the conditionality of the Minsk agreement been abandoned? Many observers confused the pause in the fighting in March/April 2015, to allow Russia to rotate troops in the Donbas, with a ceasefire. Public opinion and the European press started hailing the agreement as “the” political solution to the conflict – which it wasn't. And in time, politicians came to believe this myth too. And finally there was no Plan B if the actions of Minsk II were not implemented. That left European politicians, including those in Berlin, reliant on a dogmatic implementation of an agreement that no longer fit the situation. And from Russia’s side, Putin has practically lost interest in the agreement, as he begins to realise that his interpretation of Minsk II (making Brussels and Kyiv pay for the Donbas and using “federalisation” to paralyse Ukraine domestically) is off the cards.

    For the moment, Greece absorbs the attention of European and German decision makers. But there is unfinished business on bringing peace to Ukraine and the Minsk framework is approaching a dead end. Europe faces a difficult choice: put more pressure on Moscow to comply with Minsk II, or quickly come up a plan B, possibly including a separation force.

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    Reference the former Texas resident fighting with the Russian mercenaries----

    In full flow "Texas" lets slip that "the Russian army [in Ukraine] is strong & getting stronger every day"
    [21:42] https://youtu.be/2gOJEx7hPJQ?t=21m33s

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