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    Shellings and ground attacks are on again this evening---STILL no response from Obama, Hollande and Merkel

    Kirovsk constant explosions can be heard

    20:48 #Kirovsk @AngelMorbit Sounds of very massive volleys or explosions

    19:41 #Mariupol @priazovsky Rumble fr/#Shyrokyne

    19:38 #Horlivka @waringorlovka Quiet

    20:55 #Horlivka Kalinovka @HU_belochka Quiet

    20:35 #Horlivka @xy_gorlov4an "They warm up"

    19:35 #Mariupol @sir_T_Lawrence RUS woke up - distant cannonade

    #Shyrokyne this evening, view fr/RUS side @666_mancer pic.twitter.com/anpNBsaUf3

    20:20 #Horlivka @eco127127 Shooting or it just seemed?

    20:23 RUS src: AGL grenades are landed in the west,Gagarina&19-20 mine

    Shyrokyne: 5 wounded via @1inoplanet9nin1

    Shyrokyno, tonight https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...04533307957248

    Donetsk-Makeevka connecting road: tracked vehicles roar @OSCE_SMM https://twitter.com/TombstoneDjack/s...02185412128768

    Avdeevka, complete silence, easy to explain - DPR asked for silence till 17:00 https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/610463327572099073

    Right Sector reported 1 KIA today at #Shyrokyno

    De facto, #Russia's regular army engages #Ukraine directly (special ops). So proxies or collaborators? pic.twitter.com/7hwYRSS06D

    #News
    From midnight to 6 pm, Russian forces conducted 33 attacks vs. the Ukrainian line of defense. 27 in #Donetsk and 6 in #Luhansk region.

    21:26 #Horlivka @tgorlovka In Komsomolets one can hear mortar rounds and small arms shots

    Shyrokine: ruscists are attacking UA positions RIGHT NOW @OSCE_SMM

    3 #Ukraine soldiers killed, 2 wounded by #Russia|n forces in #Marinka today.

    In all their Glory
    #DNR, #LNR, #novorossiya #russia
    Their "fallen heroes" pic.twitter.com/zbNQaZYa4c
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia threatens the US if it stations weapons near the Russian borders BUT then it somehow forgot it signed the NATO-Russia Founding Act…………………..

    #Russia blackmails #West by #Iskanders in #Kaliningrad & changes in force posture in #Belarus http://charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/ … pic.twitter.com/M1fvKN2rde

    #Russia agreed with #NATO PREPOSITIONING in 1997. Check out NATO-Russia Founding Act part IV http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/jqeu8eVhIp
    NATO plans to store equip for 150 men per Baltic country. Russia: "No choice, must deploy Iskanders in Kaliningrad" http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...source=twitter

    Jorge Benitez: Putin wants to intimidate "the US & Western Europeans to respect Russia's sphere of influence" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    .@NATOSource director Jorge Benitez: Putin "relies on threats & coercion because he believes they work" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Benitez: "The more Putin uses military units to try to bully the West, the more he galvanizes Western opposition" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Spiral theorists, get your popcorn. Russia will deploy reinforcements to the border, if NATO adds tanks to the Balts https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/15...eastern-europe

    Russia tells U.S. that Baltic 'aggression' will get 'land, sea and air response' #Kaliningrad. http://ln.is/tumblr.com/J1Owa

    Russia blackmails EU by Iskanders in Kaliningrad and “changes in force grouping” in Belarus - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/

    Belarus and China hold joint exercise Dashing Eagle 2015 at Brestsky 15-27 June near EU borders - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155576/

    @Guderian_Xaba According to Kremlin logic, YES. NATO is to equip an entire company in each Baltic state --> Iskanders necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Telling comment by a so called ethnic Russian Ukrainian----interesting he openly calls the DNR forces cowards for hiding behind civilians

    Man says there is no #Minsk, never was; & DPR should go & fight in the fields w/ #Ukraine forces, not at their homeshttps://youtu.be/FPZ9XkHzCQs?t=10s

    Human shields: essentially the man is saying DPR not to use residential areas as cover to fire from, at #Ukraine troops, who fire back.

    #Donetsk rally 2day was arranged by Natalia Vitrenko's Socialist party,whose members are now "DPR MPs".Curves of fate pic.twitter.com/sFcAwGkQFI

    Another Kremlin Propagandist who tweets exactly the opposite why people protested pic.twitter.com/yn1Gan1GVe

    youtube.com/watch?v=q1Afj_hZaqo … Woman:'We need peace!' #Zakharchenko: 'You want #Ukraine to put you in a concentration camp?' pic.twitter.com/G3oHvzaG34
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Shellings and ground attacks are on again this evening---STILL no response from Obama, Hollande and Merkel

    Kirovsk constant explosions can be heard

    20:48 #Kirovsk @AngelMorbit Sounds of very massive volleys or explosions

    19:41 #Mariupol @priazovsky Rumble fr/#Shyrokyne

    19:38 #Horlivka @waringorlovka Quiet

    20:55 #Horlivka Kalinovka @HU_belochka Quiet

    20:35 #Horlivka @xy_gorlov4an "They warm up"

    19:35 #Mariupol @sir_T_Lawrence RUS woke up - distant cannonade

    #Shyrokyne this evening, view fr/RUS side @666_mancer pic.twitter.com/anpNBsaUf3

    20:20 #Horlivka @eco127127 Shooting or it just seemed?

    20:23 RUS src: AGL grenades are landed in the west,Gagarina&19-20 mine

    Shyrokyne: 5 wounded via @1inoplanet9nin1

    Shyrokyno, tonight https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...04533307957248

    Donetsk-Makeevka connecting road: tracked vehicles roar @OSCE_SMM https://twitter.com/TombstoneDjack/s...02185412128768

    Avdeevka, complete silence, easy to explain - DPR asked for silence till 17:00 https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/610463327572099073

    Right Sector reported 1 KIA today at #Shyrokyno

    De facto, #Russia's regular army engages #Ukraine directly (special ops). So proxies or collaborators? pic.twitter.com/7hwYRSS06D

    #News
    From midnight to 6 pm, Russian forces conducted 33 attacks vs. the Ukrainian line of defense. 27 in #Donetsk and 6 in #Luhansk region.

    21:26 #Horlivka @tgorlovka In Komsomolets one can hear mortar rounds and small arms shots

    Shyrokine: ruscists are attacking UA positions RIGHT NOW @OSCE_SMM
    Has not be verified---
    Heavy fighting in #Shyrokyne this evening. Many #Ukraine fighters wounded.
    pic.twitter.com/R1PBnJQ8GG

    #Horlivka 21:45
    Lenina mine settlement - a lot of ruscist military equipment on move.
    Towards Stroitel. https://twitter.com/NeonDok/status/610521420389580800

    9:01PM
    A few tanks from #Makeevka towards #Khartsyzsk https://twitter.com/pandenik/status/610507502594166785

    Khartsyzk 21:30
    Judging by the sound the tanks went towards #Zuhres, #Shakhtarsk https://twitter.com/natroso/status/610517160415358976

    Luhansk 10:06PM
    Towards #Stanitsya_Luhanska rumble again, you can hear it from east https://twitter.com/vzglyd2/status/610523696965533696
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    OSCE Says Violence Continues To Intensify Near Donetsk And Elsewhere http://bit.ly/1JTWtKO

    VIDEO Direct hits of Russian artillery on residential building in #Avdiivka
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHl3FuJQ6ig … pic.twitter.com/xwWzQVTPS5

    youtube.com/watch?v=q1Afj_hZaqo … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi7a2olZBM8 … #Zakharchenko calls for offensive, then says it's what #Ukraine plans pic.twitter.com/VW4LpgLlPL

    Kremlin's proxy in occupied Donbas, Andrei Purgin: Unification of DPR and LPR is possible in principle. http://novosti.dn.ua/details/252626/

    #Belarus started drills near the border with Ukraine pic.twitter.com/H6cHbGOJUS http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...ear-the-border

    In the meantime Russia keeps a bunch of soldiers and heavy equipment on both sides of Ukraine border. But that's OK. https://twitter.com/HuffingtonPost/s...69345978896387

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NATO plans to store equip for 150 men per Baltic country. Russia: "No choice, must deploy Iskanders in Kaliningrad" http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...source=twitter

    Jorge Benitez: Putin wants to intimidate "the US & Western Europeans to respect Russia's sphere of influence" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    .@NATOSource director Jorge Benitez: Putin "relies on threats & coercion because he believes they work" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Benitez: "The more Putin uses military units to try to bully the West, the more he galvanizes Western opposition" http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...p-the-new-norm

    Spiral theorists, get your popcorn. Russia will deploy reinforcements to the border, if NATO adds tanks to the Balts https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/06/15...eastern-europe

    Russia tells U.S. that Baltic 'aggression' will get 'land, sea and air response' #Kaliningrad. http://ln.is/tumblr.com/J1Owa

    Russia blackmails EU by Iskanders in Kaliningrad and “changes in force grouping” in Belarus - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155565/

    Belarus and China hold joint exercise Dashing Eagle 2015 at Brestsky 15-27 June near EU borders - Charter'97 15 Jun http://www.charter97.org/en/news/2015/6/15/155576/

    @Guderian_Xaba According to Kremlin logic, YES. NATO is to equip an entire company in each Baltic state --> Iskanders necessary.
    https://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.c...es-to-fortune/

    US prepositioning in the Baltics: heavy metal politics and hostages to fortune

    by Mark Galeotti

    There is much about the present Russo-Western confrontation that is symbolic, even when it comes to the tanks rumbling around the Baltic plans or the Russian aircraft screaming past and sometimes into NATO airspace. Essentially, it is a combination of the macho posture of alpha male animals, trying to overawe their rival by any means short of the murderous, and the stately diplomatic dance of hint, demarche and denunciation, in heavy metal form.

    Consider, for example, the likely deployment of heavy equipment in the Baltic states, a pre-deployment of enough kit for a full brigade. More than anything else, this is a piece of theatre intended to reassure the Balts that they would not be left high and dry if the big, bad Russians ever invaded, and warn Moscow that Washington is indeed serious about its obligations to its NATO allies.

    In military terms, after all, it is harder to see this as serious. Why? All this hardware is pretty pointless without (a) the 5,000 or soldiers to go with it and (b) without the time to take the tanks and other pieces of kit out of storage and get them ready for action -- even at the most basic level, they need fuel, ammunition and other consumables. Presumably if -- and I don't believe this would ever happen -- the Russians ever were to invade the Baltic states, they would do so through a surprise blitzkrieg, as one of their massive military "exercises" on the borders suddenly reveals itself to be an intervention force. I can't see Moscow feeling the need to give NATO fair warning and notice!

    The sad truth is that the Baltic states are pretty much impossible to defend in purely military terms. The borders are open, the terrain is pretty flat, the settlements small. That in no way minimizes the determination of the Balts, and the Russians would have to expect subsequent bitter guerrilla warfare as patriots fight back from the woods or in the cities, but Moscow's ability to take the region in the first instant is hard to question.

    The corollary? It is that, in purely military terms, Washington is prepositioning a cache of modern weapons for the Russians to capture.

    Of course, the point is that this is not what anyone expects to happen: if -- again, let's stress that if -- Russia chose to step up its aggression against the Baltic states, it is almost certain to be through indirect, covert or deniable means, not a storm of armour and airpower. The calculation in Washington is that at least by pretending to make a serious military commitment to the Baltic states (and one which makes it certain and obvious that any Russian offensive will bring it into face-to-face contact with US soldiers), it deters Moscow from any such moves. And so we have another demonstration of the many ways in which if not war but military force can be the instrument for politics by other means.
    MFA Russia ✔ @mfa_russia
    Moscow warns #US not to store military hardware near #Russian border - http://bit.ly/1MX9xiw @RusEmbUSA
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    Shyrokyno
    Ongoing battle, we have 1 KIA, 5 WIA.

    #Mariupol https://twitter.com/sviritat/status/610525473462947841

    #Mariupol 22:05
    3 ambulances just rushed towards #Shyrokyno https://twitter.com/PozyvnoiMol/stat...27553078607872

    A lot of military equipment of militants on Lenin Avenue in Horlivka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/15-june...tants-on-lenin

    #Berezove checkpoint on #Donetsk-#Mariupol road closed, because of heavy ruscist shelling. https://twitter.com/Darren_Aro/statu...29073840955395

    21:45 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA 7 Ural trucks, 1 BTR, 1 minibus, 1 jeep fr/#Donetsk direction eastwards

    20:40 #Kirovsk @AngelMorbit Distant volleys
    @thisnameerror Fr/checkpoint in #Irmino,today also Grad fired fr/there at 25th cp

    This pro-Russian terrorist brags that she has killed 24 Ukrainian soldiers in battle & 2 POWs. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ter_mailonline … pic.twitter.com/tGHLXvSdgF

    21:30 #Alchevsk @GirkinGirkin Active troops movement at checkpoint in Volgogradska St

    22:46 #Stakhanov @yellowbtr A covered Grad cruises around #Stakhanov

    19:59 #Alchevsk @protiv_voiny Along Kirova St "8-10 tankettes" sped tow/#Perevalsk

    Alchevsk @GirkinGirkin "20:00 UPD: there were 12 brand-new BMPs" https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/610537295675027457

    21:56 #Horlivka @_John__Carter_ West. Closer and closer

    21:55 #Horlivka 245th block @NeonDok Many mil vehicles are going along Lenina Ave
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    #Analysis #Map
    Artillery fire clearly coming from the north.
    Thanks to @Tim__Lock for geolocating it
    . pic.twitter.com/tWOHgyxMCs

    QUIZ! Go to NATO -Russia Founding Act.Find a sentence #Russia HAS NOT violated. CLAIM A PRIZE! http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/of...exts_25468.htm … pic.twitter.com/zvkf4jUtzn

    #Footage
    Pro-invasion TV claims, #Ukraine uses phosphorus shells vs them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRYkIdvjrv0
    pic.twitter.com/TzRKxyQe7A

    23:46 #Luhansk @LuhanskJunta Again one can hear RUS cannons, not fr/Zmiyina_Hora[near Stanytsia] as usually, further.Too dull

    23:40 #Donetsk @donetskye Single 122mm shot fr/Azotny area

    #Shyrokyno - Ukr soldier shooting with AGL on russian positions https://youtu.be/4OYLTFwr7o4

    #Shyrokyne battle footage - the chechens from Sheikh Mansour battalion firing at russians https://youtu.be/ZwkKLdespso

    By refusing to honor ECHR verdict in YUKOS case, Russia is consciously seeking to be kicked out of Council of Europe http://top.rbc.ru/politics/15/06/201...794723d5e1b78f
    Seems as if Russia is trying to save themselves 50B USDs as that is the penalty that had to pay in the YUKOS case.

    23:20 #Shakhtarsk @Helgi__UA 5 BMP fr/#Donetsk eastwards

    11:07PM
    At #Stanitsya_Luhanska serious battle https://twitter.com/xyevii_kharkov/s...39212572618752

    Shakhtarsk 23:10
    5x BMP from #Donetsk towards east. https://twitter.com/Helgi__UA/status/610542470015885313

    11:07PM
    Through #Horlivka center in direction of #Dzerzhynsk passed armor, artillery, but they are silent until now. https://twitter.com/nativesss1/statu...39025745747968

    #Russia|n troops attack #Stanytsia #Luhanska after shelling of #Ukraine Army positions

    Lithuanian_MoD @Lithuanian_MoD
    Russia has been long concentrating its modern military equipment near the borders of the #BalticStates. Nothing new is in the RU claims

    #Russia's F/Min warns US plan 2 site heavy weaponry close 2 its borders cld lead 2 "new military stand-off with poss dangerous consequences"

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    UN High Commission for Human Rights notes collapse of law&order in DNR /LNR: http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/P...16077&LangID=E
    http://twitter.com/Ginger_Kip/status...com/mLrDvIjpHq

    #Donbas is waking up
    Local women in occupied #Donbas to invader (or puppet): "LEAVE US ALONE!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28RGaYpsvXM
    He just walks away.

    #Russia playing its favourite game of "let's fly a reconnaissance plane with transponder switched off" over Lithuania
    http://en.delfi.lt/lithuania/defence....d?id=68254410

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    http://maidantranslations.com/2015/0...freesavchenko/

    Dmitry Tymchuk: Military update 6.15

    Posted on June 15, 2015

    Operational data from Information Resistance:

    Over the past weekend (June 13-14, 2015), the activities of the Russian-terrorist forces in Donbas have intensified. The positions of Ukrainian troops, as well as settlements under the control of Ukrainian authorities, were shelled with heavy weapons; in several sectors, enemy infantry groups have attempted to move towards the positions of Ukrainian troops (all such attempts were stopped by the ATO forces’ fire).

    During the last 24 hours, we observed fire strikes from 120-mm mortars and 122-mm artillery on the settlements of Opytne, Vodyane, Pisky, Krasnohorivka, Mar’inka, and Avdiivka (continuous shelling throughout the entire day). To the south of Donetsk (in the vicinity of Novomykhaylivka, Slavne, and Stepne), terrorists have used BM-21 Grad MLRS. In the same area, the enemy used tanks (a group of 5-6 vehicles was spotted near Opytne and to the southwest of the settlement; a tank group was also operating in the vicinity of Novomykhaylivka, after transferring there from Dokuchajevsk through Olenivka). Enemy infantry groups made attempts to pull forward to the positions of Ukrainian troops. Overall, we observed significant reinforcement of Russian-terrorist troops operating in the direction of Mar’inka and south of it, and to the north in the direction of Krasnohorivka.

    In the vicinity of Nova Laspa and Starohnativka, the terrorists attempted to attack the advanced positions of the ATO forces using several infantry groups operating under cover of 120-mm mortar fire. After the ATO forces opened dense retaliatory fire, insurgents employed 122-mm artillery. Nevertheless, the ATO forces succeeded in pushing the insurgent infantry groups back to their original lines.

    In the Artemivsk sector (near Zolote, Popasna, and Novozvanivka), insurgents fired at the positions of Ukrainian troops using AGS-17 grenade launchers, as well as 120-mm and 82-mm mortars. Fire strikes were carried out on the front echelons of the ATO forces, and in several instances – on [Ukrainian troop] strongholds.

    In the vicinity of Luhanske [a settlement in Donetsk Oblast not to be confused with the city of Luhansk], insurgents continue using tanks and mortars in tandem. The enemy is trying to methodically destroy the advanced positions of the ATO forces in order to prevent the consolidation of Ukrainian troops on the positions occupied by the latter.

    North of Troitske, insurgents employed BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launcher systems (2 units).

    Almost all Ukrainian troop positions along the arc north of Donetske, from Novotoshkivka to Trokhizbenka (including Krymske, Sokilnyky, and Prychepylivka) were shelled and attacked during the past 24 hours. In this area, the enemy employed the forces of three mobile fire groups, which included armored vehicles (3-4 tanks and 4-5 armored combat vehicles in each), ZU-23-2 mobile anti-aircraft systems, and mortars mounted on vehicles. Terrorist infantry groups attempted to approach the advanced positions of the ATO forces, supported by AGS-17 grenade launchers and heavy machine guns. The terrorists also used several BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers (BTR-70 and BTR-80) to give direct support to their infantry groups northeast of the Bakhmut motorway.

    During the past 24 hours in the Seaside [Mariupol] sector, insurgents shelled the objects and positions of ATO forces in the vicinity of Shyrokyne, as well as positions located north and northwest of that settlement (including near Pavlopil and Chermalyk). The terrorists mainly used small arms and AGS-17; however, by nightfall, the insurgents deployed two batteries of 2S1 122-mm self-propelled artillery guns and up to four Grad-P 9P132 (“Partisan”) [Grad-P Light portable rocket system] units towards Bezymenne, and used them to fire directly on ATO forces’ positions near Shyrokyne, as well as on the road leading to that settlement from the northwest.

    Movements of insurgent vehicles and personnel:

    • An insurgent unit (450-500 personnel, in several groups) has been transferred to the vicinity of Horlivka, through Yasynuvata and Yenakijeve. Artillery is being transferred as well (six 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled guns and five D-30 howitzers spotted over the last 24 hours);

    • Two Tor-M1 anti-aircraft units transferred through Shakhtarsk. The convoy was escorted by two BTR-80 armored personnel carriers and 3 Kamaz trucks;

    • Three Strela-10M self-propelled artillery systems were spotted on the stretch between Sadove and Khartsyzk;

    • A local insurgent unit (at least 550 personnel in total) is being transferred from Alchevsk to Debaltseve in small groups (5-6 trucks in each);

    • A convoy (four BTR-80 armored personnel carriers and four 2S3 Akatsiya self-propelled artillery guns) moved through Alchevsk in the direction of the Isakivske reservoir;

    • South of Luhansk, we spotted 20 trucks with pontoon equipment (with the tactical numbers wiped on all of them).

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    Russian humor:

    Ukraine didn't shoot down a Russian drone. It's pro-Russian drone bought by concerned locals in a Donetsk flea market pic.twitter.com/9fP6aGzy9C

    Russian military drone shot down over Ukraine. Surely another homemade product by some elderly knitting group ladies angry at Kiev

    More humor----
    Today in 1940 USSR invades Estonia to prevent it "forming an anti-Soviet alliance". Thus were the Estonians liberated from themselves

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    List of shame. AKA members of new far right EU Parliament bloc, “Europe of Nations & Freedoms”http://www.politico.eu/article/franc...an-parliament/ … pic.twitter.com/QiKPZfXwit

    Evidence RUSSIAN GRU SOLDIERS posed as #UA BERKUT on MAIDAN @SimonOstrovsky @Max_Fisher @maxseddon http://tinyurl.com/FalseBerkut

    #Russians are sacrificing freedom for greatness but are getting neither.
    pic.twitter.com/s4m8J71h5n
    themoscowtimes.com/opinion/opinion/article/russians-crave-greatness-but-at-what-cost/523686.html …

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    And the shellings and ground attacks just keep on --well into now a full week and YET still no response from Obama, Hollande, Merkel--how strange is that??

    Heavy Russian shelling continues in eastern Ukraine. In the last 24 hours, 2 Ukrainian soldiers were killed, and several more were wounded.

    Yesterday in the evening militants drastically intensified activities: fired 30 times at Ukr forces till midnight https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...14772605200212

    #Shyrokyno 15.06.2015
    9:17PM
    2 KIA (update) https://twitter.com/sex_Dombas/statu...11410469171201

    03:05am #Sumy: Blast in Svoboda party office https://youtu.be/f02AwKrrhqg http://www.0542.ua/news/858575 pic.twitter.com/PvT4d7kdkq

    Another reported Ukrainian engagement with a Spetsnaz unit—
    2 #Ukrainian servicemen KIA, 2 WIA in fighting w/ militant subversive group near Kryakivka, #Luhansk region http://moskal.in.ua/?categoty=news&news_id=1828

    @Guderian_Xaba The enemy group snuck in Ukr controlled territory from the right bank of the Seversky Donets river. pic.twitter.com/Mvjipz2XR3

    Gov. Moskal: Near #Kryakivka (#Trokhizbenka) there was a battle with russian sabotage and recon group, 2 Ukr soldiers KIA and 2 WIA, heavy fighting ensued

    Also at about 5am thus morning militants bombarded positions of the Ukrainian military in Shyrokyne with 120-mm mortars - Sector M spox

    Over last 24 hours RU forces attacked UKR positions in Sector M 10 times. Used artillery, mortars. 2 soldiers wounded
    http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...luzhashih.html

    Result of Rus GRAD MLRS attack on Trehizbenka
    http://moskal.in.ua/index.php?catego...s&news_id=1829 … pic.twitter.com/8RWjdIXhlp

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    And the shellings and ground attacks just keep on --well into now a full week and YET still no response from Obama, Hollande, Merkel--how strange is that??

    Heavy Russian shelling continues in eastern Ukraine. In the last 24 hours, 2 Ukrainian soldiers were killed, and several more were wounded.

    Yesterday in the evening militants drastically intensified activities: fired 30 times at Ukr forces till midnight https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...14772605200212

    #Shyrokyno 15.06.2015
    9:17PM
    2 KIA (update) https://twitter.com/sex_Dombas/statu...11410469171201

    03:05am #Sumy: Blast in Svoboda party office https://youtu.be/f02AwKrrhqg http://www.0542.ua/news/858575 pic.twitter.com/PvT4d7kdkq

    Another reported Ukrainian engagement with a Spetsnaz unit—
    2 #Ukrainian servicemen KIA, 2 WIA in fighting w/ militant subversive group near Kryakivka, #Luhansk region http://moskal.in.ua/?categoty=news&news_id=1828

    @Guderian_Xaba The enemy group snuck in Ukr controlled territory from the right bank of the Seversky Donets river. pic.twitter.com/Mvjipz2XR3

    Gov. Moskal: Near #Kryakivka (#Trokhizbenka) there was a battle with russian sabotage and recon group, 2 Ukr soldiers KIA and 2 WIA, heavy fighting ensued

    Also at about 5am thus morning militants bombarded positions of the Ukrainian military in Shyrokyne with 120-mm mortars - Sector M spox

    Over last 24 hours RU forces attacked UKR positions in Sector M 10 times. Used artillery, mortars. 2 soldiers wounded
    http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...luzhashih.html

    Result of Rus GRAD MLRS attack on Trehizbenka
    http://moskal.in.ua/index.php?catego...s&news_id=1829 … pic.twitter.com/8RWjdIXhlp
    Ukr casualty numbers for yday coming in soon. Another bloody day for the army.
    I can't understand, Kiev & Europe won't change their stance.


    IMHO it seems that Obama, Hollande and Merkel have informed the Ukraine they must hold to a truly failed Minsk 2 at all costs or why else would the Ukraine simply "allow it troops to be killed and wounded daily without a solid form of resistance".

    EXAMPLE: yesterday one unit got shelled by 120mm mortars and returned fire with 82mm mortars--AND exactly what is the effective range of a 120mm vs. an 82mm mortar?? --some heck of a resistance as more were wounded.

    AT some point the Ukrainian Army on their own and to keep from getting more killed and wounded will fully respond to the Russian attacks.

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    Well worth downloading the article and reading it as it comes from a Finnish assessment of Russia's non linear warfare (western term hybrid warfare).

    We now have more than enough of true evidence with which to analyze the success and or failure of the Russian non linear warfare and in effect the West should be clearly able to both recognize it and to now counter it--only countering the info war piece is still eluding the West.

    http://www.fiia.fi/en/publication/514/.

    Russia’s Hybrid War in Ukraine:
    Breaking the Enemy’s Ability to Resist


    Published 16.6.2015

    András Rácz

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    Since the change of power in Ukraine in February 2014, Russia has been swift to occupy and annex the Crimean peninsula. In April 2014, separatist riots broke out in Eastern Ukraine, following a very similar pattern to those in Crimea. These actions were accompanied by a strong and intensive, well-coordinated diplomatic, economic and media campaign both in Ukraine and abroad, also supported by pressure exerted by the large Russian military units lined up along the border with Ukraine.

    The form of warfare Russia employed in Ukraine in 2014, often called hybrid war, has been aimed at defeating the target country by breaking its ability to resist without actually launching a full-scale military attack. In line with contemporary Russian military thinking on ‘new generation warfare’, hybrid war is built on the combined use of military and non-military means, employing basically the whole spectrum of a state’s policy inventory, including diplomatic, economic, political, social, information and also military means.

    This report aims to seek answers to two main research questions. First, what are the main features and characteristics of Russia’s hybrid warfare as conducted in Ukraine? Derived from the first, the second research question is focused on the operational prerequisites for the Russian hybrid war. In other words, is the Russian hybrid war a universal warfare method deployable anywhere, or is it more country or region-specific?

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    This is interesting if in fact true--could be equally as well Russian disinformation. will monitor to see if more comes out via social media which this came from.

    According to Gerashenko and presumably leaked plan, Ru forces Kharkiv 1st https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/610707075249885184 … pic.twitter.com/fyI9Ro4WRI

    "On 8,9 April Ru Gen Staff approved plan of capturing of Ukraine up to Dnipro in 15 days"
    https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/610706643077210112 … pic.twitter.com/iN5vMhNCKy

    Ukrainian deputy MIA Gerashenko: US move troops to Europe cause Putin plans to occupy whole "left bank of Dnipro" http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...se-putin-plans

    "Leaked plan" more looks like disinformation or "student graduate work", quite low level, though could be draft https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/610709107188830208

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Will comment on this later today.

    Ukraine'll not pay for deliveries of Russian electricity to the occupied territories of Donbass - "Ukrenergo" https://twitter.com/sergvlady/status/610382142829428737
    In Russian non linear warfare --the use of economic pressure is one of the key factors.

    When Russia attacked Georgia and created a "Russian enclave" they supplied the enclave with natural gas and electricity and then suddenly billed Georgia 6B USDs for the outstanding bill.

    Russia has repeated the same tactic with the Donbass region--supplying gas and electricity.

    BUT here is the big difference the Ukraine fully understands the Russian game--when Gazprom stated they would supply gas the Ukraine waved off on payments using the existing gas delivery contract as the legal argument--meaning the gas is not coming via a certified and approved Ukrainian controlled crossing point and is not being correctly metered by the Ukraine thus the supplies are out of contract bounds and the Ukraine refused to pay and still does refuse.

    The Ukraine threatened Gazprom with passing the billing conflict off to the EU anti trust division to be included in the current anti trust violations being charged against Gazprom.

    Now the same thing is occurring with electricity and the Ukraine is again using the same argument and will not pay--not within the existing delivery contracts and not metered at the approved Ukrainian controlled locations.

    Then the Ukraine not so subtlety points out that the outstanding debt back to the Ukraine owed by Russian for simply taking over Ukrainian property and assets in the Crimea total 367B USDs including an additional 2.6B USD for water, gas and electricity deliveries into the Crimea.

    Seems that Russia underestimated the ability of the Ukraine to push back.
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    A really good piece of EU research on the use of Russian propaganda in 2015.

    Worth taking the time to go through it.

    Was just released in time for the Vienna OSCE conference on journalism in conflict zones and propaganda.

    http://proqwerty.tilda.ws/russianpropaganda

    Perfect example from yesterday as seen in Russian TV.

    #Donetsk yday @Serzzze #Footage cut off by Russian TV: #Donetsk residents to militants:"leave us alone!" https://youtu.be/28RGaYpsvXM
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    From Post 72 and cited in part:
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    Evidence RUSSIAN GRU SOLDIERS posed as #UA BERKUT on MAIDAN @SimonOstrovsky @Max_Fisher @maxseddon http://tinyurl.com/FalseBerkut
    From the link; originator 'eugene7' which is dated nine months ago. In the comments 'fereglovesyou':
    All the links you posted show these guys in Crimea. Where are the photos that show them on the Maidan?
    'eugene7' responds:
    I've just re-checked all links. You are right. I though there were photos from that building with a long corridor police was sleeping in. But it looks like all text about Kiev is actually not confirmed. My bad. Let's wait a bit more and see if more will pop-up.
    As I recall other, better photos of the shooters @ Maidan have appeared, although conclusive to some IIRC, others disagreed. It appears plausible that the Berkut contingent from the Crimea, known to have been present @ Maidan, changed sides when Russia asserted itself in the Crimea, hence the photos.
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    Little know Russian historical aspect of their signing of the Ribbentrop Molotov 1939 treaty that Putin now verbally states was a "good thing for Russia" after he condemned it in 2009.

    On April 28 1940, Representatives of the USSR discussed the "Jewish question" with Hitler's representatives in Moscow pic.twitter.com/ya4jdtm7Tn

    The USSR agreed to hand over Jews who had fled to the USSR back to German hands. Many of which died in concentration camps

    Seems to be at odds with the Russian current view that they have great relations with their Russian Jewish population.

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