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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    From Post 72 and cited in part:

    From the link; originator 'eugene7' which is dated nine months ago. In the comments 'fereglovesyou':

    'eugene7' responds:

    As I recall other, better photos of the shooters @ Maidan have appeared, although conclusive to some IIRC, others disagreed. It appears plausible that the Berkut contingent from the Crimea, known to have been present @ Maidan, changed sides when Russia asserted itself in the Crimea, hence the photos.
    A follow up with a TASS press release from that period.

    Crimean Berkut police to preserve name as it incorporates into Russian Interior Ministry

    Russia
    March 24, 17:44 UTC+3

    SIMFEROPOL, March 24. /ITAR-TASS/. Crimea’s Berkut police unit incorporated into the Russian Interior Ministry will preserve its old name, Russian Interior Ministry Vladimir Kolokoltsev said at a meeting with the unit’s officers in Simferopol on Monday.

    Kolokoltsev said that Berkut had proven to be an efficient and well-functioning unit which showed high level of training and moral strength in hard conditions.
    There were indications that after the disbanding of Berkat a number of the Kyiv members fled to the Crimea but that would have been after the Maidan not before. Others remained in Donetsk and formed the mercenary Ghost volunteer BN following the former Ukrainian Commander of Alpha.

    In another comment in that thread and right after the shot down of MH17 he (the Ghost BN Commander)openly critiqued the shot down having been conducted by the mercenaries--he later retracted that publicly recorded statement and has not made a single statement for the public since then.

    Way back in the first Ukraine military thread just after Crimea there was posted a couple of photos of a Kyiv Berkat member in Russian Spetsnaz uniform in Crimea--and in another Russian VK (FacebooK) page indicating that a member of Spetsnaz had been in the Ukraine prior to the Maidan conducting recons.

    The VK page was in fact from a actual Russian Spetsnaz individual not a former Berkat.

    NOTE: from a 3 Sept blog comment:

    If you wondered, who killed people on #Euromaidan: soldiers from #Russia in #Ukraine uniform!
    https://twitter.com/lennutrajektoor/...72131424063488 … pic.twitter.com/KZK9ARCrd1
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    And the shellings and ground attacks just keep on --well into now a full week and YET still no response from Obama, Hollande, Merkel--how strange is that??

    Heavy Russian shelling continues in eastern Ukraine. In the last 24 hours, 2 Ukrainian soldiers were killed, and several more were wounded.

    Yesterday in the evening militants drastically intensified activities: fired 30 times at Ukr forces till midnight https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...14772605200212

    #Shyrokyno 15.06.2015
    9:17PM
    2 KIA (update) https://twitter.com/sex_Dombas/statu...11410469171201

    03:05am #Sumy: Blast in Svoboda party office https://youtu.be/f02AwKrrhqg http://www.0542.ua/news/858575 pic.twitter.com/PvT4d7kdkq

    Another reported Ukrainian engagement with a Spetsnaz unit—
    2 #Ukrainian servicemen KIA, 2 WIA in fighting w/ militant subversive group near Kryakivka, #Luhansk region http://moskal.in.ua/?categoty=news&news_id=1828

    @Guderian_Xaba The enemy group snuck in Ukr controlled territory from the right bank of the Seversky Donets river. pic.twitter.com/Mvjipz2XR3

    Gov. Moskal: Near #Kryakivka (#Trokhizbenka) there was a battle with russian sabotage and recon group, 2 Ukr soldiers KIA and 2 WIA, heavy fighting ensued

    Also at about 5am thus morning militants bombarded positions of the Ukrainian military in Shyrokyne with 120-mm mortars - Sector M spox

    Over last 24 hours RU forces attacked UKR positions in Sector M 10 times. Used artillery, mortars. 2 soldiers wounded
    http://www.mariupol.tv/news/war/mari...luzhashih.html

    Result of Rus GRAD MLRS attack on Trehizbenka
    http://moskal.in.ua/index.php?catego...s&news_id=1829 … pic.twitter.com/8RWjdIXhlp
    09:05 #Horlivka @DobryShubin "No shelling in Horlivka for 2 days and sone dismay seizes [us]"

    AND it starts again—maybe the mercenaries just ran out of munitions and had to resupply—at the height of the fighting in Feb 2015 they were firing an average of 150 tons of munitions per day.

    10:30 #Donetsk @666_mancer [vk]'Proletarskyistant singles for 1/2hr' 'Budenovka hears' 'In City too,dull but clear&massive'

    11:30 #Donetsk @BylByleva Distant volleys heard in the center,Leninsky ds
    11:35 [vk] Yuzhnye_Sklony (Leninsky): Rumble

    11:42 #Donetsk @relictDon Single gunshots fr/Azotny areafor about 15min, small arms was heard before

    Ukrainian authorities have the access roads to the #DNR locked again. Only the connection #Donetsk - Gorlovka is open

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    Is this Russian statement something attune to “calling the kettle black” themselves??

    Russian prime minister calls provision of IMF funds to Ukraine ‘large-scale theft’http://www.unian.info/politics/10898...ale-theft.html … pic.twitter.com/8zPoXvtkW9

    Putin and his military leadership using non linear warfare--the economic aspect of hybrid warfare assumed based on the lousy Ukrainian economic conditions they could drag out the fighting and thus break the Ukrainian will to resist and give into the concept of a "federalized eastern Ukraine".

    Not only has that not happened the IMF contrary to it's on standards is providing the Ukraine with another large billions transfer and has openly stated it will continue to do so--thus ensuring the Ukrainian economy will not collapse as was planned and hoped for by Putin and company.

    Which if the figures are correct at a 4-5M USDs a day to fight in eastern Ukraine was a distinct possibility BUT it seems the war costs are also dragging on the Russian side at an estimated 38-51M USDs per day and they have been doing that since August 2014 PLUS having to actually financially support the Donbass with another 4-6B Rubles per month just to keep running and afloat.

    That is actually why you see them virtually pleading with the West to use their influence to get the Ukraine to stop their economic blockade of Donbass--BUT the Ukrainian argument of "if we do not control it we are not paying for it" still is a valid argument for the West.

    There has been a massive amount of corruption conducted by the mercenaries with the Russian "humanitarian aid and funds coming in" and not much of both is getting through to the locals--which even the GRU/Spetsnaz has not been able to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Am bringing this forward into the thread as a perfect example of just how US Congressman seem at times to be either "bought" by lobbyists or simply know nothing about which they claim to stand for.

    Jun 11 2015

    U.S. House Passes 3 Amendments By Rep. Conyers To Defense Spending Bill To Protect Civilians From Dangers Of Arming and Training Foreign Forces
    Department of state: #the U.S. had no plans to train battalion #Azov. pic.twitter.com/PoD7tNkrt2 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...plans-to-train

    This DoS statement seems to imply two questions;

    1. why did the good Congressman not fact check his information concerning the projected training of Azov

    AND even more importantly--

    2. WHO fed him the "wrong information" and what did he get for his efforts outside of press coverage????

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    In #Аntrasyt area (#Luhansk reg.) a large convoy of GRADs arrived from Russia, they went to the Novopavlivka mine. https://twitter.com/Karlik_Pu/status/610561373697896448

    #Avdiivka shelling 14.06.2015
    HighRes: http://img.ly/C3wx pic.twitter.com/h93Gq4ZGW3

    AND this after even the JCCC with a Russian general actually accused and verified that the mercenaries were in fact firing phosphorus shells.

    Russia MoD war propaganda accuses Ukraine of using phosphorus shells.
    If you tell a lie often enough...

    https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...51884751990785

    @ystriya Phosphorous shells my backside! (That's a glowing fuse head FFS). Someone with a blowtorch and a videocam more like!

    From another world of “Russian reality”
    Russian Investigative Committee official wants probe into U.S. moon landing, suggests it was faked
    http://russia.liveuamap.com/en/2015/...ficial-wants-a

    VIDEO @SimonOstrovsky following the path of Russian soldiers taking selfies in Ukraine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIFN2mso … pic.twitter.com/dV87kBPWbx

    VICE News ✔ @vicenews
    .@SimonOstrovsky sets out to prove that Russian soldiers are fighting in Ukraine: http://bit.ly/1cY2vgs pic.twitter.com/F8TFtzaHR1
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    And round three of the Russo Ukrainian war is still grinding on with little to no comments from Obama, Hollande and or Merkel.

    He seems to have arisen from the dead so to speak—his HDQs was definitely hit and destroyed --
    VIDEO 'Givi' commander of Somali brigade clearly not killed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DkbNV14JNg

    Scums who took selfie w/ cut-off ears of Ukrainian soldier identified
    Anatoly Gritsenko & friends: https://vk.com/id207175274?z=photo20...hotos207175274
    v @xyevii_kharkov

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Russian regulars to occupy key posts in forthcoming military administrations to control and direct militant forces

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    A Donetsk miner told Ukrainian operatives that he was forced to repair RU tanks under threat of being killed
    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Ukrainian border guards spotted 13 flights of enemy UAVs

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Luhansk sector: RU proxies fired at Novotoshkivske – 122mm artillery. Clash in Sokilnyky-Kryakivka-Tryokhizbenka triangle.

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Donetsk sector: Militants fired at UA troops by Maryinka from Grad missile systems twice; Intensive fighting Hranitne-Horlivka

    Dnipro-1 Aero reconnaissance found 200 heavy units of the militants in #Luhansk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrxPW_NhX2chttp://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june....32487&zoom=15

    NSDC of Ukraine ✔ @NSDC_ua
    Fighting continued in Shyrokyne, Mariupol sector. Militants use mortars and artillery that exceed 100mm caliber.

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    "#Russia is no party in the conflict in #Ukraine."
    But 8 Russian TV channels spread daily lies by the "DNR's" Basurin
    pic.twitter.com/g9imTim1xV

    @LUGANSK_TODAY
    #Russian GRU #Yerofeyev identified on video taken in #Lugansk, #Ukraine in January 2015. Read http://lugansk-news.com/russian-gru-...-january-2015/ … pic.twitter.com/Or6snP8ROo

    Graham Phillips filming 'actress' with fake tears at Donetsk rally calling on Zakharchenko to start an offensive. pic.twitter.com/50qeKVR7LQ

    DRONE FOOTAGE from Lugansk showing Russian military bases: 6 MTLB 12 BMP 14 BTR 47 Ural 49 Kamaz 63 tanks
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrxPW_NhX2c

    Screenshots from Russian military bases at Lugansk filmed by Ukrainian drone.
    pic.twitter.com/UNV0WDyp71

    Powerful explosion in Donetsk, a strong shock wave reported. No details. - 62.ua http://www.62.ua/article/859314?utm_...medium=twitter

    14:20 @666_mancer '#Donetsk city: rumble', 'Shakhtarska Sq: massive explosion' 'DOK: car alarms went off'

    Zakharchenko's soldiers look extremely nervous at y'days anti-war rally in #Donetsk
    https://youtu.be/an5FAc8mLnk?t=2m38s … pic.twitter.com/BQHkyKBkk8

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    Someone ask Bato Dambaev and @SimonOstrovsky if @Bellingcat's methods work https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2zssIF...ature=youtu.be … #PutinAtWar pic.twitter.com/7CaJbDCEQI

    Herashchenko: Russia has plan for occupation of left-bank Ukraine
    http://www.unian.info/politics/10899...k-ukraine.html

    Kasyanov: Only #CrimeanTatars have right of self-determination in Crimea under UN rules: http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/1...kasyanov-says/ … pic.twitter.com/Lr908KgxCp

    VIDEO: Lugansk - 200 pieces of military equipment found by Regiment Dnipro-1 UAV
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrxPW_NhX2c&sns=tw … pic.twitter.com/fj2S4F8Rq9

    Though #Russia soldier Dambaev has deleted pics of him fighting in #Ukraine, his friends have not:
    pic.twitter.com/uh6LszGg3s

    #Kremlin logic: It's fair for us to threaten you with nuclear strikes, but your defensive measures are destabilizing. pic.twitter.com/nGmVfeJDSV

    United Russia deputies question Baltic independence and claim 1991 recognition was 'treason'. http://tvrain.ru/articles/deputaty_u...a_sssr-389250/

    Putin’s Nuclear Plan Is Working: DC musters only intermittently credible response as Kremlin tries to undermine NATO http://www.wsj.com/articles/putins-n...ing-1434392929

    #Russ. terrorists' ammunition depot near #Luhansk ,Polk "Dnipro"s video https://twitter.com/Doctor_Stefan/st...79868406640640

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    Officer recruited by Russian special services found operating in SBU ranks
    http://www.unian.info/society/109006...sbu-ranks.html … pic.twitter.com/3xIBahRQSf
    Ukraine: the lieutenant colonel of SBU detained, he passed secret information to Russian intelligence

    Mariupol frontline #Ukraine:
    “Straight ahead, regular #Russia|n forces of the 42nd Div, which controls the Chechens" pic.twitter.com/FfQCqXbYj4

    NBS @Latvijas_armija
    Armed Forces on 16 JUN in LV EEZ 20 nmi from territ. waters spotted RU Navy's SS-750 Kashtan-class submarine support ship.

    More aggressive Russian propaganda----
    Prokhanov: "Let this bomber fly over Florida: Stalin's hand will touch it and say, 'Don't be stupid, America!' " pic.twitter.com/FU8yn054nV
    Stalin icon will be on board, so "when the bomber flies over NATO borders, they see the power of Izborsk & Saratov" pic.twitter.com/zRC7TIb3Lt

    At anti-war protest in Donetsk, "DNR leader" Zakharchenko admits separtists fire heavy weapons from near school. http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine.../27074917.html

    RUS Armed Forces UAV pictured @ Kubinka 15JUN15 pic.twitter.com/eWR08A7Jzi

    Simon Ostrovsky ✔ @SimonOstrovsky
    I re-enacted a Russian soldier's trip to #Ukraine to prove Moscow is at war there http://bit.ly/1JRKEX3 pic.twitter.com/MrjoHGtHcm

    Separatists fire white phosphorous rounds in #pisky, trying to kill #Ukraine troops sheltered in cellars pic.twitter.com/YPL9YHdBC6

    DNR Announces Resettlement Of Shelled Villagers, But Zakharchenko Considers Yesterday's Protest A 'Provocation'. http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...k-region/#8824

    Zakharchenko does not exclude that the rallies on the "DNR" territory will be forbidden pic.twitter.com/q3yDJr1Qg6 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...he-rallies-and

    Ukraine soldiers raised the Ukrainian flag on hilltop near #Horlivka/#Gorlivka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwGrIqpCekY … #Russia pic.twitter.com/eUM6nSLFFv

    #Poland:
    Polish neo-nazi Dawid Hudziec fights for #Russia in #Donetsk
    https://www.facebook.com/hudziecWNS
    https://vk.com/honorek85 pic.twitter.com/5Rz5CeabXT

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    "#Russia is no party in the conflict in #Ukraine."
    But 8 Russian TV channels spread daily lies by the "DNR's" Basurin
    pic.twitter.com/g9imTim1xV

    @LUGANSK_TODAY
    #Russian GRU #Yerofeyev identified on video taken in #Lugansk, #Ukraine in January 2015. Read http://lugansk-news.com/russian-gru-...-january-2015/ … pic.twitter.com/Or6snP8ROo

    Graham Phillips filming 'actress' with fake tears at Donetsk rally calling on Zakharchenko to start an offensive. pic.twitter.com/50qeKVR7LQ

    DRONE FOOTAGE from Lugansk showing Russian military bases: 6 MTLB 12 BMP 14 BTR 47 Ural 49 Kamaz 63 tanks
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrxPW_NhX2c

    Screenshots from Russian military bases at Lugansk filmed by Ukrainian drone.
    pic.twitter.com/UNV0WDyp71

    Powerful explosion in Donetsk, a strong shock wave reported. No details. - 62.ua http://www.62.ua/article/859314?utm_...medium=twitter

    14:20 @666_mancer '#Donetsk city: rumble', 'Shakhtarska Sq: massive explosion' 'DOK: car alarms went off'

    Zakharchenko's soldiers look extremely nervous at y'days anti-war rally in #Donetsk
    https://youtu.be/an5FAc8mLnk?t=2m38s … pic.twitter.com/BQHkyKBkk8
    This is why social media open source analysis has become so important in the fighting in the Ukraine.

    This particular Russian Spetsnaz officer (POW) claimed during his video interviews he had only arrived in the Ukraine in early April--social media open source analysis was able though through video footage taken from the net--proved he had been in the Ukraine since January 2015--a really big difference.

    Of the two POWs he has been the "quietest' of the two and has not had much to say vs his SGT. He has said actually very little if anything.

    Now we know why----

    @LUGANSK_TODAY
    #Russian GRU #Yerofeyev identified on video taken in #Lugansk, #Ukraine in January 2015.
    Read http://lugansk-news.com/russian-gru-...-january-2015/
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    Russian-backed militants take over two supermarkets in Luhansk pic.twitter.com/4UIc3wRkFw http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...o-supermarkets

    This is interesting in that there have been today a number of tweets indicating that Russian troops ie officers are taking over administrative positions in the Donbass in order to control the extensive corruption and massive fraud that is ongoing among the various mercenary groups which largely answer to warlords and gang leaders.

    If one goes back to the video interview of the captured Russian Spetsnaz officer--one of their SF mission sets was "watching the mercenaries"--his term but being a GRU officer it has a deeper meaning.

    In this case control the supermarkets means one controls the supply chain thus can set the prices--there has been indications that many of the "so called ethnic Russians" shop in Ukrainian controlled zones as the Prices are much cheaper.

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    Ceasefire--really.............


    Nolan Peterson @nolanwpeterson
    I embedded w/ #Ukraine army in #pisky for 8 days Constant separatist artillery barrages, tank attacks & sniper fire. Cease-fire is a fiction


    Pisky is one of the major hotspots located next to the destroyed Donetsk Airport.

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    #Stoltenberg : Russian military rhetoric is dangerous http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...c-is-dangerous

    Arrested Russian journo Pavel Kanygin, allegedly tests positive for drugs; will be deported today to #Russia by DPR:
    http://novayagazeta.livejournal.com/3253602.html

    #Russia claims that #NATO would break its commitment by pre-positioning equipment in E. Europe. Untrue. pic.twitter.com/ScYzZ6mKeR
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    Seems that all wars have their own rap themes even in say Iraq where several US soldiers even poduced their own record labels.

    More war-themed rap from Donbass, this time from Ukrainian Azov battalion, set to them shooting at DNR in Shyrokyne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-PCE5n87c …e

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Department of state: #the U.S. had no plans to train battalion #Azov. pic.twitter.com/PoD7tNkrt2 http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...plans-to-train

    This DoS statement seems to imply two questions;

    1. why did the good Congressman not fact check his information concerning the projected training of Azov

    AND even more importantly--

    2. WHO fed him the "wrong information" and what did he get for his efforts outside of press coverage????
    This rap video from Azov might help the good Congressman to "see and understand" the Ukrainian war and who Azov is fighting.

    More war-themed rap from Donbass, this time from Ukrainian Azov battalion, set to them shooting at DNR in Shyrokyne

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-PCE5n87c …e

    The good Congressman must ask himself if this looks like a crazed bunch of Nazi's running around overthrowing the Ukrainian government OR are they heavily engaged defending that very government????

    If the good Congressman paid attention to the video not a single Nazi symbol anywhere to be seen-- what was seen was the Ukrainian colors on some of their uniforms.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 06-16-2015 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    #Stoltenberg : Russian military rhetoric is dangerous http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...c-is-dangerous

    Arrested Russian journo Pavel Kanygin, allegedly tests positive for drugs; will be deported today to #Russia by DPR:http://novayagazeta.livejournal.com/3253602.html

    #Russia claims that #NATO would break its commitment by pre-positioning equipment in E. Europe. Untrue. pic.twitter.com/ScYzZ6mKeR
    Ah... the truth always wins over Russian propaganda-----

    Arrested Russian reporter Pavel Kanygin yesterday filmed Donetsk residents complain about being used as human shields, heckle Zakharchenko

    The Russian reporter deserves an Ukrainian medal for his honesty----

    Donetsk militants detained and beat @novaya_gazeta reporter @pavlikmail before deporting him to #Russia: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2748187

    This single event actually shows that the Russian "hybrid warfare" is dying a slow death-----telling.

    Then we have a UK Journalist who worked for RT UK and then the Russian MoD News medai now in the Donbass and who should have been arrested by trhe UK for POWs torture videos when he returned to the UK but was not even questioned.

    Graham W Phillips‏@GrahamWP_UK ·

    Graham W Phillips retweetete Simon Ostrovsky
    One dishonest, unethical journalist defends another, as @SimonOstrovsky sticks up for DPR detained Pavel Kanigin
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    New anti-EU, anti-immigration, far right group, “Europe of Nations and Freedoms”. Or, more aptly, "Putin's Minions":

    pic.twitter.com/xZR9ZGnXjL

    Remember Russian non linear warfare is just the "means" to achieve the Putin desired political warfare "end state" of--

    1. the discrediting and damaging of the EJU
    2. the discrediting and damaging of NATO
    3. disconnecting the US fully from Europe
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    More and more Russian propaganda is coming into play as the fighting is becoming more intense and more evidence of Russian troops on the ground is almost a daily event now.

    Russian Embassy, UAE ✔ @RusEmbassyUAE
    IMPORTANT! Press release on the allegations of #Ukraine's Embassy in #UAE http://goo.gl/xjdr6b pic.twitter.com/zqQa61fFhN

    Remember Russian propaganda 4Ds--dismiss, distract, distort, dismay is designed to create 2Ds ----distrust and doubt.

    Which of the 6Ds is the Russian Embassy in the UAE using in this release.

    Simply one of the best examples I have seen in recent Russian propaganda reflecting all 6Ds in one statement--actually hard to do.

    ON THE RECENT ALLEGATIONS BY THE UKRAINIAN EMBASSY IN ABU DHABI
    After nearly six-month break, the Embassy of Ukraine in Abu Dhabi once again decided to remind about itself and come out with another portion of propaganda bubbles. Kiev is obsessed with mythical ‘Russian aggression' but cannot find it on the ground, therefore goes on fighting the ‘arch foe' on paper.

    The new product of Ukrainian imagination does not differ much from all the previous ones and does not go beyond lies and disinformation. Here are our clarifications on some of the issues raised.

    First of all, Ukrainian claims about shelling by self-defence forces of Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples Republics (DPR and LPR) look pathetic and are nothing more than an attempt to cover their own ceasefire violations which are systematically reported by OSCE Special Monitoring Mission as well as civil monitoring groups and DPR and LPR authorities.

    Kiev mentions 50 shelling cases of its positions on one particular date of the 14th of June, at the same time it ignores the fact that the city of Donetsk and surrounding areas, especially Gorlovka, live under nearly constant bombardment by Ukrainian forces that only escalated at the beginning of June. There are massive destructions in the residential areas, daily news about dead and wounded among local civilians. Obviously, this is not a subject the Ukrainian Embassy would like to touch.

    Our Ukrainian colleagues decided to be creative and accuse Donbass militia of ‘destroying critical infrastructure' e.g. a pipeline in Yasinivataya suburb, thus deeming self-defence forces responsible for ‘depriving locals of gas'. There is at least lack of common sense. Donetsk militiamen defend their homeland so why would they harm themselves and worsen already severe social-economic situation caused by the war and nearly total blockade enforced by Kiev.

    All questions should be addressed to the opposite side. What about numerous power stations, heating and sewage plants across Donbass deliberately targeted by Ukrainian artillery? What about technical teams being shot at while trying to repair them? What about thousands of people hiding from Ukrainian bombs and shells in basements for months, deprived of most basic facilities and services even when power- and pipelines are intact?

    This time Kiev is backing its claims with a map, which actually works completely against it. What did they mean by those randomly marked tanks and artillery units inside Donetsk and Lugansk regions? Where is the Ukrainian army, or those three boats in Azov Sea are everything left for now? Perhaps Kiev was carried away by hiding from OSCE Special Monitoring Mission its real tanks and howitzers and concealed them on the paper map too?

    On the ground there are a lot of indications that the Ukrainian side has already been ridiculing the implementation of Minsk agreements. It did not only bring the heavy weaponry back to the frontline but is even increasing its numbers. The president of Ukraine openly admits that ‘the ceasefire is only needed to rebuild and upgrade Kiev's army'. As soon as this task is completed there might be another attempt to solve the Donbass issue by military aggression, which is in fact the Ukrainian aggression against its own people. This new round of their propaganda campaign could perfectly be a prelude to the escalation on the ground.

    Last but not least – a couple of words about the attacks on Ukrainian diplomatic missions. The Ukrainian side ‘expresses strong protest' over what happened in Moscow and Rostov-on-Don on the 12th of June but seems to completely forget the ‘audacious attack' on the Russian Consulates General in Kharkov and just a day before and in Lvov – on the 12th of June. The leaflet says about ‘deliberate provocation' against Ukrainian missions but how should one call the attack on our Consulates exactly on the same day they were holding the National day events? By the way, did the Ukrainian authorities ‘investigate and punish those responsible' for the siege of the Russian Embassy in Kiev last June?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More and more Russian propaganda is coming into play as the fighting is becoming more intense and more evidence of Russian troops on the ground is almost a daily event now.

    Russian Embassy, UAE ✔ @RusEmbassyUAE
    IMPORTANT! Press release on the allegations of #Ukraine's Embassy in #UAE http://goo.gl/xjdr6b pic.twitter.com/zqQa61fFhN

    Remember Russian propaganda 4Ds--dismiss, distract, distort, dismay is designed to create 2Ds ----distrust and doubt.

    Which of the 6Ds is the Russian Embassy in the UAE using in this release.

    Simply one of the best examples I have seen in recent Russian propaganda reflecting all 6Ds in one statement--actually hard to do.

    ON THE RECENT ALLEGATIONS BY THE UKRAINIAN EMBASSY IN ABU DHABI

    Well done @UkrEmbUAE - Whatever you said has gotten the Kremlin in a flap. Keep up the good work https://twitter.com/RusEmbassyUAE/st...67950627766276

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    Ah... the truth always wins over Russian propaganda-----

    Arrested Russian reporter Pavel Kanygin yesterday filmed Donetsk residents complain about being used as human shields, heckle Zakharchenko

    The Russian reporter deserves an Ukrainian medal for his honesty----

    Donetsk militants detained and beat @novaya_gazeta reporter @pavlikmail before deporting him to #Russia: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2748187

    This single event actually shows that the Russian "hybrid warfare" is dying a slow death-----telling.

    Then we have a UK Journalist who worked for RT UK and then the Russian MoD News media now in the Donbass and who should have been arrested by the UK for POWs torture videos he filmed when he returned to the UK but was not even questioned.

    Graham W Phillips‏@GrahamWP_UK ·
    Graham W Phillips retweetete Simon Ostrovsky
    One dishonest, unethical journalist defends another, as @SimonOstrovsky sticks up for DPR detained Pavel Kanigin
    Some protection the Russian MFA provides these days--

    Russian MFA promised to protect Pavel Kanygin, who was detained in "DNR" http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/16-june...el-kanygin-who

    Photo of beaten Russian journalist----
    pic.twitter.com/6IuO2Pc1Og

    Pavel Kanygin was beaten up in the car. He was asked if he was for "the Ukries" or "for them". He said he was for peace. Big mistake
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