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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    Interview with BBC Radio about investigating #Ukraine's claim separatists are developing a dirty radioactive weapon
    https://soundcloud.com/max-tucker-1/...shour-1-august

    BTW--it should be noted that independent of this article--the Ukrainian government formally asked the OSCE number of weeks ago to ensure that this particular nuclear waste storage site be inspected to ensure it was still protected and had not been breached.

    Interesting that the Ukrainian government was several weeks ago concerned about a possible "breach of the site" --NOTICE the OSCE was unable to get into the area to inspect the site as they were constantly denied entry by the Russian troops and her mercenaries.

    Wonder why????
    Let’s see three Russian trolls argue the article is rubbish, then the Russia mercenaries deny today that the nuclear waste storage site has not been breached BUT offer no video proof.

    But the OSCE cannot confirm nor deny as the Russian mercenaries do not allow them access to the site.

    Tend to think with OSCE not being allowed to check ie confirm and or deny------the UK Times might in fact be correct----

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    It will be another long, long, long night on the eastern front lines--will be another 80-105 Russian shelling and ground attacks.

    AND does any Western leader really care--apparently not.


    Today (00:00-18:00) militants 51 times violated ceasefire. The area of Donetsk remains the most tense - ATOhttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...60&__tn__=%2As

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    Paratroopers day in Gorlivka (occupied #Ukraine)
    Possibly a RU MTLB:
    http://streamable.com/v7ge
    https://instagram.com/p/54D4cAQj_o/ pic.twitter.com/cQbMJjIjj8

    Who doubts they really are Russian Airborne Troops (VDV) in DPR unit "Sparta"? https://vk.com/sparta_orb?w=wall-88853749_4678 … #PutinAtWar pic.twitter.com/Kaddy92yzp

    In Horlivka today: Russian T-72B with Kontakt-5 ERA, BTR-60 R-145BM http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-augus...h-kontakt5-era … pic

    Artillery barrage hit Svitlodarsk and Myronivka http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-augus...-and-myronivka

    Svitlodarsk. Fire after shelling - wood is burning http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-augus...ood-is-burning … #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/kpYGLWyJio via @GirkinGirkin

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    Russia's GRU Captain says RF Consul doesn't visit many Russian POW's captured in #Ukraine
    http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/69410.html … pic.twitter.com/aUxusCOdrw

    From the independent Russia media interview just release this captured Russian CPT of the Spetsnaz is indicating that the Ukrainians hold more than 20 Russia officer POWs evidently also from Spetsnaz and they are in fact abandoned as he has been by Russian.

    He is also indicating that the Russian military hold Ukrainian POWs physically on Russian soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Let’s see three Russian trolls argue the article is rubbish, then the Russia mercenaries deny today that the nuclear waste storage site has not been breached BUT offer no video proof.

    But the OSCE cannot confirm nor deny as the Russian mercenaries do not allow them access to the site.

    Tend to think with OSCE not being allowed to check ie confirm and or deny------the UK Times might in fact be correct----
    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    #Ukraine rebels initially denied knowledge of radioactive bunker but now know what's inside. Yet it 'remains sealed' pic.twitter.com/REJ8XGEfO9

    Russia-backed rebels in eastern Ukraine say storage of radioactive waste at chemical factory safe: http://apne.ws/1E24fNc

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Right before Mi-28H went down in Ryazan,Russian Air Force Maj-Gen made statement that air show goal was to show RUS air power & reliability

    Russia's latest military helicopter Mi-28H crashed at air show http://top.rbc.ru/society/02/08/2015...79474598721195 … pic.twitter.com/RPXET4u6S2

    Mi-28N crash at Russia Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xuUqHTD2dA

    The helicopter belonged to the "Berkuty" ('Golden Eagles') flight display team.
    BTW-----the engines for this Russian copter come from the Ukraine which has stopped shipping them

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    It will be another long, long, long night on the eastern front lines--will be another 80-105 Russian shelling and ground attacks.

    AND does any Western leader really care--apparently not.

    Today (00:00-18:00) militants 51 times violated ceasefire. The area of Donetsk remains the most tense - ATOhttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...60&__tn__=%2As
    18:00 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk Yet another shelling at #Luhanske fr/#Vuhlehirsk or #Horlivka Kalinovsky ds direction,2-3 howitzers

    18:18 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk After UKR response the shelling ceased
    @paty11976 It shelled from #Lohvynove

    18:23 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk I can swear,I heard volleys fr/the south, not southwest, morning ones were southwest

    18:26 #Horlivka @adochek More incoming far away

    18:41 #Svitlodarsk @GirkinGirkin pic.twitter.com/tvLSIutHPm
    @hu_svetlodarsk In the morning shey shelled the same area, now like closer

    18:28 #Horlivka @NovaGorlivka Artillery 'ouverture' for the show has begun. Mortar entrance for now

    19:03 #Svitlodarsk @GirkinGirkin Shelling is on, over houses, fir-trees on fire pic.twitter.com/CZGreAkdd7

    19:29 #Donetsk @relictDon Volleys from Azotny started at 7pm. One more series 20 min after

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    18:00 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk Yet another shelling at #Luhanske fr/#Vuhlehirsk or #Horlivka Kalinovsky ds direction,2-3 howitzers

    18:18 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk After UKR response the shelling ceased
    @paty11976 It shelled from #Lohvynove

    18:23 #Svitlodarsk @hu_svetlodarsk I can swear,I heard volleys fr/the south, not southwest, morning ones were southwest

    18:26 #Horlivka @adochek More incoming far away

    18:41 #Svitlodarsk @GirkinGirkin pic.twitter.com/tvLSIutHPm
    @hu_svetlodarsk In the morning shey shelled the same area, now like closer

    18:28 #Horlivka @NovaGorlivka Artillery 'ouverture' for the show has begun. Mortar entrance for now

    19:03 #Svitlodarsk @GirkinGirkin Shelling is on, over houses, fir-trees on fire pic.twitter.com/CZGreAkdd7

    19:29 #Donetsk @relictDon Volleys from Azotny started at 7pm. One more series 20 min after
    Russian forces are once again escalating their attacks since sunset.
    Heavy shelling in many areas of the 400 km long front.


    19:50 #Maryinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] Machine gun fired a bit and AGL in GAI direciton, quiet in general

    20:25 #Donetsk @PVB40 [fb] Durna_Balka: "again Baikonur starts far away, outgoing as hell"

    20:27 #Donetsk Kirovsky ds exec comitee @PVB40 [fb] Distant heavy outgoing volleys

    20:27 #Donetsk @relictDon Onging rumble at Azotny. Shots became more frequent, various sounds

    20:34 #Svitlodarsk @kmet7575 I can hear impacts on Zaluhan [part of #Troitske]

    20:40 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca "Party" started [=shelling]
    20:59 Calmed down


    20:43 #Donetsk @Serzzze Fireworks

    20:49 #Volnovakha @AloneWolf5 'Concert' is on, incoming [in #Starohnativka]

    21:02 #Taramchuk-#Stepne @Darren_Aro Regular sporadic distant volleys

    21:02 #Donetsk Kalinovka @AlfaNubovsky For 30min either small arms shooting, or together with fireworks. They are Celebrating

    21:23 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca 'Party' is on, shelling again
    21:41 Great and greater, sounds like tanks and arty joined [shelling]


    Frontline: moderate shelling, Peski, Starognativka, Horlivka

    21:30 #Luhansk @100007182042214 #Stanystsia_Luhanska is being shelled

    22:02 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Loud volleys, not very far off

    Starohnativka; Avdeevka - more action unfolds...

    20:40 #Luhansk @100007182042214 #Schastya outskirts - restless

    22:56 #Donetsk @GirkinGirkin South outskirts: loud rumble, landings heard from #Dokuchaevsk direction
    @shuttle1907 Quiet from us

    23:10 #Donetsk @AkaDON12 Cannonade with misc sound volume [=various intensity] from the north/northwest lasts for 4 hours

    23:25 #Avdeevka @owl_ok Rumble here

    23:23 #Luhansk @antonio_fz1 Volleys from Luhansk, read vk [ruscist Luhansk group] "Ukrops are shelling fr/Schastya at Stanytsia", logged out

    Keep your eyes on Volnovakha... Russian attacks on Starohnativka are the route to Volnovakha (ie Mariupol north flank)

    23:19 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Short combats in #Opytne direction with pauses. Lighter calibre incoming there. Sporadic closer outgoing

    23:24 #Donetsk @relictDon Sporadic single volleys from Azotny

    22:13 #Horlivka Kalinovka @UA_Gorlivka It's hard to breath outside, eastern wind brings burnt odor from the fields, smth was burning there

    23:40 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Rumble
    23:39 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 2 incoming in #Opytne and 5 outgoing from UKR

    23:55 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Heavy landings in #Novhorodske direction
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    Typical of the corruption the Ukraine has to combat if it is to move forward-----

    BMWX5 driven by police chief in a remote #Ukraine district where illegal #amber mining thrives. His salary ~$300/m pic.twitter.com/QwNtKpMFMh

    Corruption is a systemic problem inherited from the Soviet days and refined ever since----

    More than 100 Russian attacks each day with 10-20 casualties.
    And Poro says,Ukraine will withdraw more arms from the front,leave #Shyrokyne.

    Prez: we are only talking about withdrawal of Armed Forces from #Shyrokyne. In Berdyanske, on heights our units stay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vHxPiWy6p0

    Remember my tweets from Feb&March.
    #Shyrokyne was always thought 2b a temporary battlefield.
    https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/st...40948196081664
    https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/st...12888784592896

    Russian invaders inaugurated a BMD-1 monument in #Luhansk - "for the paratroopers killed, defending the republic". pic.twitter.com/wLMeLIoSDP

    Of course, the BMD - and all "killed paratroopers" - are from #Russia itself.
    But hey! Why should we care?! ...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-xyc3w2nek

    Electronic Warfare: What US Army Can Learn From Ukraine http://bit.ly/1gBf2Jq pic.twitter.com/xKck8awQBD

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    Maybe Obama, Nuland, Kerry, Hollande, Merkel should read this as their unilateral appeasement moves they are pressuring the Ukraine on are in causing stress inside the Ukrainian civil society and one is starting to seriously doubt the intentions of the West.

    http://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentar...ampaign=buffer

    Is Europe losing Ukraine?

    Note from Berlin
    Gustav Gressel
    30th July, 2015

    Although temperatures remain low, summer time has started in German politics. Politicians have gone back to their constituencies, diplomats are being reshuffled, offices are being restructured, and even the efforts to save Greece have lost some of their drama in the last week. But beyond the empty corridors of the Bundestag, significant foreign policy challenges remain and in some cases grow. One of them is Ukraine.

    On 11th June 2015, fighting in Mukaczewo in western Ukraine took the lives of two Prawy Sektor activists. While Prawy Sektor claims that these activists were acting as a vigilante force, trying to clean up smuggling operations conducted by corrupt local police and officials, the government described the Prawy Sektor's gunmen as the ones escorting smugglers to raise money for their organisation. Wherever the truth lies, this is a worrying sign: neither vigilantism nor a marriage between organised crime and political activists are reassuring for the future of Ukraine.

    While it is unlikely that the Prawy Sektor will become a major force in Ukrainian politics, owing to its narrow support base, it could become a major destabilising factor – not unlike the Brigate Rosse in Italy or the 17N movement in Greece. Prawy Sektor, like these other groups, sees itself as having defended the country at the time of greatest need, but is deemed as unacceptable to mainstream politicians. Prawy Sektor portrays itself as the victim of political intrigues and Russian subversion and as true defenders of the ‘Ukrainian people’ against a corrupt, repressive, socially indifferent, subverted, and ineffective state apparatus. Mixing involvement in organised crime with a revolutionary zeal and ‘Robin Hood’-like arguments was one of the primary activities of the radical, violent left in southern Europe and could become a central activity of the Ukrainian far-right.

    What is perhaps more worrying still is the increasing acceptance or indifference of the Ukrainian society towards the destabilising developments. And frustration in Ukraine is mounting over the way the West deals with Ukraine is increasing this frustration.

    On 15th July the Ukrainian parliament adopted the law on the special status of the ‘Peoples’ Republics’ in the Donbas. The constitutional amendment was highly controversial, and a very emotional debate split the Ukrainian parliament. Ultimately, the amendment was passed to comply with the Minsk agreement, signed in February. Yet Russia for it's part has not met a single condition demanded by the Minsk agreement prior to Ukraine's constitutional reform: there is no ceasefire: there is no heavy weapons withdrawal, no prisoner exchange, no withdrawal of Russian troops, and no effective supervision.

    So why should Ukraine implement the later stages of the agreement, if Russia hasn't moved at all? The answer is Western pressure. US and German diplomats were putting pressure on Ukraine to proceed with the implementation of the Minsk Agreement, despite the fact that Russia was not complying. There is the feeling that neither American nor European politicians are ready to tell their domestic audience that the Minsk II agreement has failed. And so Ukraine must take action in order to maintain the illusion that there is still progress. Indeed, the way in which the negotiations with Kyiv were conducted has left a black mark on the entire reform process. The West insists that Ukraine needs to “signal” its goodwill to Russia by advancing the agenda of the Minsk agreement unilaterally. But now, rather than seeing it as part of a genuine peace process, the Ukrainian public regards the entire decentralisation reform as a concession to Moscow and a surrender of Ukraine's sovereignty.

    The new bailout agreement with Greece has further reinforced the feeling of unfair treatment in Kyiv. In the midst of fighting a war, Ukraine has had to embark on a dramatic reform programme in order to secure a €17 billion loan from the IMF. Greece, on the other hand, will receive a stopgap €7 billion for free and comparatively soft reforms will lead to a further aid package of €86 billion for Athens. At the same time the West – at least from a Ukrainian perspective – is providing little help for Ukraine regarding its military standoff with Russia. The feeling of anger and disappointment is spreading.

    This rising disappointment coincides with two new trends in Ukrainian politics: the rise of populism and the emergence of the security sector as a political force. Populist gestures will collide with the reform agenda, especially as the slashing of MP and civil servant salaries conflicts with the desire to strengthen their political independence. The rise of the security sector in Ukrainian politics is a side-effect of the war. While not posing a threat to the Ukrainian democracy by itself, it reshapes the political culture and political climate in Ukraine. Security forces are usually more conservative and less interested in transparency – a natural habit of their working environment. In Eastern Europe the goal of NATO and EU enlargement has made the security apparatuses swallow limitations on their domestic powers and increasing democratic oversight. But such a clear direction is missing in Ukraine.

    The situation should make western politicians – Europeans and Germans as well as Americans – rethink their strategy on Ukraine. First of all, while it remains true that Ukraine is over-centralised and in desperate need of reforms, pushing the reform agenda should be separated from the Minsk process. Otherwise it will delegitimise the entire effort. Second, the strategy towards Russia needs to be reconsidered. Russia is not implementing the Minsk-Agreement, instead airing new demands that would – if implemented – undermine Ukraine's sovereignty. Russia has not given up the hope to lure both the West and Kyiv into a trap of ‘bosnianisation’ - creating a failed state through ill-fated federalisation. The West needs to manoeuvre tactically to avoid this above all. And any solution that rests on unilateral concessions by Kyiv alone will not be sustainable. Moscow will demand more, until it reaches its goal of a paralysed Ukraine.

    Last but not least, the West should consider how to strengthen the dynamism in EU-Ukrainian relations. The ratification and application of the association agreement could be a framework for new initiatives, if used pro-actively by Brussels and the member states. Still, the issue of the final destination will be on the table. With an increasingly hostile domestic climate against enlargement, few European politicians want to talk about membership for Ukraine. But it would need decades to fulfil the Copenhagen criteria – for the moment, at least, such a move would cost little. On the other hand, the less Europe is willing to engage directly in Ukraine, the more it has to accept that the outcome of the transformation process in Ukraine will differ from the European model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Maybe Obama, Nuland, Kerry, Hollande, Merkel should read this as their unilateral appeasement moves they are pressuring the Ukraine on are in causing stress inside the Ukrainian civil society and one is starting to seriously doubt the intentions of the West.

    http://www.ecfr.eu/article/commentar...ampaign=buffer

    Is Europe losing Ukraine?

    Note from Berlin
    Gustav Gressel
    30th July, 2015
    Horlivka today (9 km fr the front)
    T-72BM,2S1,BM-21
    They shxxxxx on Minsk while Poroshenko sacrifices more land for it pic.twitter.com/u9zJ2g4xOI


    Donetsk city today.
    Because why not! ...
    pic.twitter.com/Zbm6gToMXx

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russian forces are once again escalating their attacks since sunset.
    Heavy shelling in many areas of the 400 km long front.


    19:50 #Maryinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] Machine gun fired a bit and AGL in GAI direciton, quiet in general

    20:25 #Donetsk @PVB40 [fb] Durna_Balka: "again Baikonur starts far away, outgoing as hell"

    20:27 #Donetsk Kirovsky ds exec comitee @PVB40 [fb] Distant heavy outgoing volleys

    20:27 #Donetsk @relictDon Onging rumble at Azotny. Shots became more frequent, various sounds

    20:34 #Svitlodarsk @kmet7575 I can hear impacts on Zaluhan [part of #Troitske]

    20:40 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca "Party" started [=shelling]
    20:59 Calmed down


    20:43 #Donetsk @Serzzze Fireworks

    20:49 #Volnovakha @AloneWolf5 'Concert' is on, incoming [in #Starohnativka]

    21:02 #Taramchuk-#Stepne @Darren_Aro Regular sporadic distant volleys

    21:02 #Donetsk Kalinovka @AlfaNubovsky For 30min either small arms shooting, or together with fireworks. They are Celebrating

    21:23 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca 'Party' is on, shelling again
    21:41 Great and greater, sounds like tanks and arty joined [shelling]


    Frontline: moderate shelling, Peski, Starognativka, Horlivka

    21:30 #Luhansk @100007182042214 #Stanystsia_Luhanska is being shelled

    22:02 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Loud volleys, not very far off

    Starohnativka; Avdeevka - more action unfolds...

    20:40 #Luhansk @100007182042214 #Schastya outskirts - restless

    22:56 #Donetsk @GirkinGirkin South outskirts: loud rumble, landings heard from #Dokuchaevsk direction
    @shuttle1907 Quiet from us

    23:10 #Donetsk @AkaDON12 Cannonade with misc sound volume [=various intensity] from the north/northwest lasts for 4 hours

    23:25 #Avdeevka @owl_ok Rumble here

    23:23 #Luhansk @antonio_fz1 Volleys from Luhansk, read vk [ruscist Luhansk group] "Ukrops are shelling fr/Schastya at Stanytsia", logged out

    Keep your eyes on Volnovakha... Russian attacks on Starohnativka are the route to Volnovakha (ie Mariupol north flank)

    23:19 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Short combats in #Opytne direction with pauses. Lighter calibre incoming there. Sporadic closer outgoing

    23:24 #Donetsk @relictDon Sporadic single volleys from Azotny

    22:13 #Horlivka Kalinovka @UA_Gorlivka It's hard to breath outside, eastern wind brings burnt odor from the fields, smth was burning there

    23:40 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Rumble
    23:39 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 2 incoming in #Opytne and 5 outgoing from UKR

    23:55 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Heavy landings in #Novhorodske direction
    AND the intensive shellings just keep on coming in --AND not single comment from any Western leader--as if they approve of the shellings for some strange reason.

    Just short example of the early morning shellings--the reports of continued shellings and ground attacks are just now coming in.

    Avdiivka
    Effects of tonight's (2-3 Aug 2015) bombardment https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...67856287186944

    Donetsk 4:33AM
    Center - intensive artillery work, few seconds between the shots https://twitter.com/papandopoolo/sta...15703560462336

    Donetsk 4AM
    Ruscists artillery started working in Yakovlevksky shaft of mine Zasyadko-Mineralne area. 5-6 howitzers https://twitter.com/nixer79/status/628013145324421120

    04:10 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Something heavy lands in the south - in series of several shots. Few min interval between series, pretty loud

    03:45 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia It calmed down...

    03:29 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Monotonous volleys far in the south, within earshot
    #donbasreports

    #Dzerzhynsk 4:10AM
    Smth big flies in south in series of several pcs. Few mins interval betw series. Relatively loud https://twitter.com/blessmaster

    03:24 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 10 more incoming in the same area

    #Avdiivka 3:05AM
    "Loud! Can hear salvos, the whistle and hit. No electricity!" https://twitter.com/JuZolyshkaLia/st...93746827776005

    03:09 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 About 30 [incoming] already... electricity went off

    03:10 #Donetsk @ADivinorum RUS resumed, abt 5 outgoing, your incoming [in Avdeevka] are barely heard, shots so massive hear that roof shakes

    03:05 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Rumble. One can hear volley, hiss and landing. Electricity down

    02:01 #Donetsk @ADivinorum It seems to me or they pound for 50 min from Pityevoy [pond] - I wen't out for acig break and cansee flashes

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    Reference the Russian troops during the takeover of Crimea----
    Head of Russian airborne troops: more than half of "polite people" were Russian paratroopers http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-augus...e-than-half-of

    Painted over Р-166-0,5 near UA pic.twitter.com/4uSEnj3WUD http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/2-augus...6605-near-ua--

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    Obama, Nuland, Kerry, Hollande, Merkel have applied direct pressure to the Ukraine to do unilateral appeasement moves and as " sign of good faith" as demanded by Putin--AND what has it gotten the Ukraine for these unilateral moves without a single reciprocal move by Russia----nothing but more dead and wounded.

    With 43 Ukrainian soldiers killed & injured in 3 days, where does #Poroshenko and the west see ANY hope for an implementation of #Minsk2 !?!

    4 Ukr servicemen were KIA in the last day, 15 were WIA - ATO spox

    That was to be expected... Demilitarized zone and still getting KIA... https://twitter.com/Guderian_Xaba/st...50376135585792

    Shyrokyno
    KIA among Ukr marines
    . https://twitter.com/sex_Dombas/statu...48303239213056

    There are unconfirmed reports about KIA's among #Ukraine marines in #Shyrokyne

    So how do western leaders explain the killing of Ukrainian Marines in a supposed DMZ which the Ukrainians did pull out of as demanded by Putin in a "sign of good faith"?????

    WHY do they honestly seem to think Putin never lies??

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    AND the intensive shellings just keep on coming in --AND not single comment from any Western leader--as if they approve of the shellings for some strange reason.

    Just short example of the early morning shellings--the reports of continued shellings and ground attacks are just now coming in.

    Avdiivka
    Effects of tonight's (2-3 Aug 2015) bombardment https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...67856287186944

    Donetsk 4:33AM
    Center - intensive artillery work, few seconds between the shots https://twitter.com/papandopoolo/sta...15703560462336

    Donetsk 4AM
    Ruscists artillery started working in Yakovlevksky shaft of mine Zasyadko-Mineralne area. 5-6 howitzers https://twitter.com/nixer79/status/628013145324421120

    04:10 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Something heavy lands in the south - in series of several shots. Few min interval between series, pretty loud

    03:45 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia It calmed down...

    03:29 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Monotonous volleys far in the south, within earshot
    #donbasreports

    #Dzerzhynsk 4:10AM
    Smth big flies in south in series of several pcs. Few mins interval betw series. Relatively loud https://twitter.com/blessmaster

    03:24 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 10 more incoming in the same area

    #Avdiivka 3:05AM
    "Loud! Can hear salvos, the whistle and hit. No electricity!" https://twitter.com/JuZolyshkaLia/st...93746827776005

    03:09 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 About 30 [incoming] already... electricity went off

    03:10 #Donetsk @ADivinorum RUS resumed, abt 5 outgoing, your incoming [in Avdeevka] are barely heard, shots so massive hear that roof shakes

    03:05 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Rumble. One can hear volley, hiss and landing. Electricity down

    02:01 #Donetsk @ADivinorum It seems to me or they pound for 50 min from Pityevoy [pond] - I wen't out for acig break and cansee flashes
    Militants fired 99times at Ukr troops 2Aug. Were most active around Donetsk, intensified attacks in #Mariupol sector https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...42478412429631

    Appears that all those from western leaders ie Obama and Nuland demanded unilateral appeasement moves by the Ukraine GOT absolutely nowhere.

    When will western leaders wake up and realize that until there is a military solution and or implementation of military moves under Minsk 2 there never will be any political moves on Minsk 2---HOW is it they believe that if one does unilateral appeasement political moves that is going to push a Russian 152mm SPG 15kms away from the eastern front line??

    Militants fired from 152-mm guns on the village Valuysky. http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/3-augus...llage-valuysky

    Letters from Donetsk: living in a constant threat of being arrested, beaten, killed http://eng.appc.lv/?p=690 via #CEEPS pic.twitter.com/JzV6pn5r2L

    Noo, impossible!
    All the T-72 were removed and separatists do not have #RussianArmy KAMAZ 65225 tank carriers! ...

    Russian tank carrier—never in the Ukrainian Army
    Donetsk Aug02, 5th hospital area @GirkinGirkin pic.twitter.com/qEDapG8ReN

    OSCE guys told me separatist & Russian soldiers are digging extensive trenches in east Ukraine, clearly preparing for serious escalation.

    Footage
    Volunteer from #Italy within Russian invasion forces gives interview.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRQwq1eq2Co
    #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/OqQtn3ksEq

    During the last day, 1 civilian was wounded after Militants fired on Kurakhove - Donetsk RSA
    http://donoda.gov.ua/?lang=ua&sec=02...%24_exclude:46

    News
    Yesterday, a civilian was injured by a gun in #Kurakhove, 20 km west of the front
    . pic.twitter.com/h2O89UzGqL
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-03-2015 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    AND the intensive shellings just keep on coming in --AND not single comment from any Western leader--as if they approve of the shellings for some strange reason.

    Just short example of the early morning shellings--the reports of continued shellings and ground attacks are just now coming in.

    Avdiivka
    Effects of tonight's (2-3 Aug 2015) bombardment https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...67856287186944

    Donetsk 4:33AM
    Center - intensive artillery work, few seconds between the shots https://twitter.com/papandopoolo/sta...15703560462336

    Donetsk 4AM
    Ruscists artillery started working in Yakovlevksky shaft of mine Zasyadko-Mineralne area. 5-6 howitzers https://twitter.com/nixer79/status/628013145324421120

    04:10 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Something heavy lands in the south - in series of several shots. Few min interval between series, pretty loud

    03:45 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia It calmed down...

    03:29 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Monotonous volleys far in the south, within earshot
    #donbasreports

    #Dzerzhynsk 4:10AM
    Smth big flies in south in series of several pcs. Few mins interval betw series. Relatively loud https://twitter.com/blessmaster

    03:24 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 10 more incoming in the same area

    #Avdiivka 3:05AM
    "Loud! Can hear salvos, the whistle and hit. No electricity!" https://twitter.com/JuZolyshkaLia/st...93746827776005

    03:09 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 About 30 [incoming] already... electricity went off

    03:10 #Donetsk @ADivinorum RUS resumed, abt 5 outgoing, your incoming [in Avdeevka] are barely heard, shots so massive hear that roof shakes

    03:05 #Avdeevka @JuZolyshkaLia Rumble. One can hear volley, hiss and landing. Electricity down

    02:01 #Donetsk @ADivinorum It seems to me or they pound for 50 min from Pityevoy [pond] - I wen't out for acig break and cansee flashes

    Russians hit Ukr 34th battalion base in #Kurdyumivka with high-precision "Krasnopol" missiles, each cost $70.000 http://lugradar.net/2015/08/86875

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    Russian Marine officer admits on camera that they invaded the Ukraine in August 2014---

    RUSSIA_INVADED_UKRAINE.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roAzbidlGuY … pic.twitter.com/y93FfIK1Hr
    “We came to the aid of the “new republic”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    #Ukraine rebels initially denied knowledge of radioactive bunker but now know what's inside. Yet it 'remains sealed' pic.twitter.com/REJ8XGEfO9

    Russia-backed rebels in eastern Ukraine say storage of radioactive waste at chemical factory safe: http://apne.ws/1E24fNc
    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker
    No doubt @OSCE_SMM will be very interested in the type and cause of the 'deep craters' at #Ukraine radioactive bunker
    pic.twitter.com/c4oZpnerXa


    OSCE has requested the right to monitor this specific nuclear site YET denied by Russian mercenaries---if all is fine as the mercenaries have so stated then why the NO????

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    Reference the recently created in Moscow "Ukrainian Government" in exile---

    Russia naturally claims they are not behind the recently created Ukrainian government in exile –made up of those corrupt and rich former government officials who fled to Moscow to avoid going to jail for corruption and crimes committed on the Maidan..

    Today in Moscow ex-PM of Ukraine Azarov will present "committee on saving of Ukraine" pic.twitter.com/4bXSUwcVzs http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/3-augus...v-will-present

    Committee to Save Ukraine:
    Led by fmr PM Azarov in Moscow.
    End war.
    Crimea is Russia (Kiev's fault).
    No Yanukovich.
    Want new pres elex

    Still unclear about the Azarov Ukraine committee: HOW they plan to take back ukraine and source of their funding, both q's were sidestepped

    After an hour of press conference I still don't understand how the 'Committee to Save Ukraine' plans to win the election...

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    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/08/0...-need-to-know/

    The controversial Shyrokine DMZ: what you need to know

    2015/08/03 • News

    Shyrokine is a strategic village 8 kilometers to the east of Mariupol, a Ukrainian-held city of 450,000 on the coast of the Azov sea.

    Since August last year, the invaders have been probing Mariupol’s defenses. While a key port itself, some suspect Mariupol could be the first step for a land corridor to Crimea.

    In January 2015 Mariupol’s eastern outskirts suffered heavy Russian shelling coming from the East. Losing Shyrokine would put Mariupol’s residential areas under direct threat of Russian artillery attacks.

    Shyrokine has been a conflict hotspot since March despite the Minsk accord, with both sides taking casualties. According to Azov commander Andriy Biletskyi’s estimate, Ukrainian forces lost about 60 killed and 200 wounded to the enemy’s 800 total casualties.

    80% of houses in Shyrokine have been destroyed, all the locals have left the village

    OSCE proposed demilitarization of Shyrokine, mutual withdrawal of troops and weapons up to 23mm in caliber. OSCE monitors would establish a permanent post in Shyrokine to monitor the ceasefire. There is no clear mechanism to prevent “DPR” troops from seizing Shyrokine as soon as Ukrainians withdraw.

    Locals in Mariupol as well as the volunteer battalion Donbas (defending Shyrokine along with Azov) oppose the decision, calling it voluntary yielding of Ukrainian territory.

    US ambassador to Ukraine has supported the DMZ plan, being in line with Minsk agreement and serving towards establishment of peace.

    Some refugees from Shyrokine support the move, willing to return to normal life. Others believe normal life under Russian tank guns is impossible.

    President Poroshenko stated Ukrainian troops would keep strategic heights surrounding Shyrokine and the DMZ wouldn’t spread to Mariupol itself. The city, he assured, would remain under firm Ukrainian protection.

    Ukrainian military analyst Dmytro Tymchuk believes Ukrainian troops would be unable to recapture Shyrokine, should Russians move in upon breaking the ceasefire. He suggested a DMZ plan failure should bring a new round of sanctions against Russia.

    On Tuesday, July 28, Azov and Donbas volunteer battalions (who weren’t eager to leave Shyrokine) have been withdrawn from the village, replaced by marines.

    Ukrainian marines take positions in Shyrokine

    The trilateral contact group is expected to present a more detailed DMZ plan later today after a meeting in Minsk.

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