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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/08/0...-need-to-know/

    The controversial Shyrokine DMZ: what you need to know

    2015/08/03 • News
    Appears that the Putin demanded "sign of good faith" was really a smoke screen to get the Ukrainians out of this strategic town with the help of the US and the EU.

    Since the Russians only pulled back 1.4km and not verified by the OSCE the Russians have attacked the Ukrainian position four times in the last three days.

    Well so much for the US supported/demanded "sign of good faith'????

    Guess in Russian doublespeak it means you pull back and get shot at and we do the shooting and do not pull back and yet demand a "sign of good faith" on your part.

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    Major ground and artillery battle last night and into early morning today---
    09:43 #Starohnativka @Staroignatievca [Night the battle started at 8:30pm and finished about 5am]

    Russia|n tank on a Russian tank carrier in #Donetsk City
    pic.twitter.com/CN5HDzYnJf
    Should be here pic.twitter.com/6fsWwVVlxG

    In the last day militants attacked Mariinka checkpoint (small arms) and Zolote CP (AGS, Small arms) - Border guards
    http://dpsu.gov.ua/ua/about/news/news_8063.htm

    Border Guard Service: 12 UAV flights recorded in Donbas @DPSU_ua

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    Results of another barbaric militant attack on Avdiivka Coke Plant yesterday - Ukraine side to the JCCC pic.twitter.com/KNk7NkF375

    New footage @RoyalAirForceUK Typhoons intercept 10 #Russian military aircraft in single patrol http://ow.ly/Qq6AL pic.twitter.com/AwnU8loRvN

    Ukr 30th brigade, 1st battalion's bunkers were bombed by russians yesterday evening.
    2 KIA, 9 WIA
    https://twitter.com/roman_primorye/s...89512120803328

    Eleron-3SV – $200K #Russian military intelligence drone as a present to #Donetsk terrorists http://lugansk-news.com/eleron-3sv-2...sk-terrorists/ … pic.twitter.com/iykGbLhAKo

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    Russian (hybrid LPR) forces exercises with 2A65 "Msta-B" howitzers in occupied-Luhansk, Ukraine 3 Aug https://youtu.be/wj6RVBBNEx4

    Yet another Russian war crime—shelling of strictly civilians housing areas----

    Latest: #OSCE SMM observed damage caused by shelling in #Horlivka, #Kurdiumivka, #Kodema & conducted crater analysis http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/175736


    AND another war crime—using civilians as shields---

    OSCE admits terrorist attacks from Donetsk residential areas, - Joint Centre for Contro http://24today.net/open/490717

    Militants Made a Video Tutorial About Firing Modern '9М113М' Missiles: https://en.informnapalm.org/militant...113m-missiles/ … pic.twitter.com/5trW5RaSCh
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    More and more solid evidence of Russian troops fighting in the eastern Ukraine—and they are not hiding it any more---

    Soldier guarding "DPR" weapons site admits to being from the 16th airborne brigade from Orenburg, Russia - OSCE
    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/175736

    August 2014—10 captured Russian airborne troops
    2015 –two captured Russian Spetsnaz
    Captured Spetsnaz CPT stated in his last interview that there are 20 Russian soldiers as captives of the UA
    Captured active duty Russian Staff Officer—MAJ July 2015

    Identified as well—the 2, 3, 16th Russian Spetsnaz Brigades

    AND today--the 16th Russian VDV Airborne

    WHAT does it take for Obama and Merkel to finally wake up and call it a Russian armed act of aggression in violation of international treaties.

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    OSCE Warns of Troop Buildup. "Preparedness to a degree we haven’t seen before.”


    http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/3-augus...ss-to-a-degree

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    Russia|n Buryats soldier lost in #Ukraine
    via @666_mancer pic.twitter.com/EhnJPWLZHD

    How ironic! Russian (hybrid DPR) VDV spetsnaz deomonstrate skills by attacking an ambulance! https://vk.com/dnrarmy?w=wall-51146063_4734 … pic.twitter.com/V5oEUeTslo

    Russia compiles Donbass war crimes, puts faked photo on the cover http://sledcom.ru/news/item/953460/http://www.stopfake.org/v-seti-raspr...hego-donetska/ … pic.twitter.com/EhLkaL7VvS

    JBANC chatter @JBANCchatter
    Increased activity of Russian warplanes reported above #Baltic Sea near #Lithuania http://m.en.delfi.lt/article.php?id=68588762

    New Russian gas deals are "enough to make even a seasoned energy observer's head spin"
    http://cs.is/1LDKnqe pic.twitter.com/BAY7LJR7iI

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears that the Putin demanded "sign of good faith" was really a smoke screen to get the Ukrainians out of this strategic town with the help of the US and the EU.

    Since the Russians only pulled back 1.4km and not verified by the OSCE the Russians have attacked the Ukrainian position four times in the last three days.

    Well so much for the US supported/demanded "sign of good faith'????

    Guess in Russian doublespeak it means you pull back and get shot at and we do the shooting and do not pull back and yet demand a "sign of good faith" on your part.
    I had actually posted the French demand for the Ukrainians to pull back at exactly the same time as the Putin demand was issued.

    Yes, concerted - both Elysee and Kremlin posted the demand on Ukraine withdrawal from Shyrokine same day. Mystery is why.

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    Ukrainian military are starting to post via social media their feelings against the so called "western unilateral appeasements" in not returning fire in order to hold to a "ceasefire" that is not and the West says nothing about the constant Russian shellings in clear violation of the Minsk 2.


    I hope this'll never happen, but for today there is such feeling...
    Armed Forces of Ukraine after "Minsk-33" ))))))
    pic.twitter.com/gq7VDYGbfE

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    Today militants violated ceasefire 46 times. Used artillery, mortars, grenade launchers, tanks - ATO press center
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...64&__tn__=%2As

    And we are off and running for tonight--------

    19:11 #Donetsk railway station @HuAdvokatos "They woke up" [=rumble]

    19:00 @ropogckou A volley far in the north of Donetsk, Maybe a supper [signal]

    19:57 #Donetsk @062_Region Battle in #Pisky, heavy machine gun fire

    19:41 #Donetsk @666_mancer [fb] "Mortar? from Topaz area towards #Avdeevka? fly-over time is 20sec. More outgoing fr/position further west"

    19:22 #Donetsk @relictDon Today evening gunnery in the northwest started as usually just after 7pm. Sporadic single gunshots from Azotny

    20:21 #Dzerzhynsk @TarasUkrop_ Heavier weapon [than small arms] is started to be used

    20:15 #Dzerzhynsk @TarasUkrop_ They started early today, small arms is heard well

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    This is an interesting and valid comment--WHY do western leaders and the western mass media keep using the term "separatists" or "proRussian supported separatists" WHEN from the Russian invasion of the Ukraine in August 2014 it is nothing but a Russian "hybrid" army.

    From a 32,000 Russian "hybrid army" only 6,000 are Donbas Ukrainians-the rest Russian active duty military and or Russian mercenaries.

    6,000 Donbas "fighters" out of a civil population before the fighting of 3.2M now after many have fled only 1M and most of them are retirees and disabled.

    AND if the Ukraine was actually invaded why does the mass western media keep using the term "civil war".

    If THEY tell the @OSCE,they r #RussianSoldiers,why our politicians keep telling as,they r "pro-Russian separatists"?! pic.twitter.com/0NqqnP9FfX

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    WHY is it the same every time Western leaders deal with Putin---he "demands from them" that they pressure the Ukraine to do unilateral appeasement moves as a "sign of good faith" WHICH they did and the Ukraine gave in.

    BUT THEN THIS---seems to make the Western leaders especially Obama look like utter fools.

    Russia moves artillery and armor into "demilitarized" zone near Shyrokino
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfgNdagNFI

    Russians move artillery+armor into 'buffer zone' near Shyrokyne. http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/3-augus...itarizedbuffer … via @Ukroblogger pic.twitter.com/C3kHfkYLkM

    If Obama wants to fully understand Putin then understand those that support him---

    Zhirinovskiy wants Russian Federation to become The Russian Empire and bring "half of the World to its knees"http://gagauzpravda.md/social/zhirin...t-rossiyu.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Today militants violated ceasefire 46 times. Used artillery, mortars, grenade launchers, tanks - ATO press center
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...64&__tn__=%2As

    And we are off and running for tonight--------

    19:11 #Donetsk railway station @HuAdvokatos "They woke up" [=rumble]

    19:00 @ropogckou A volley far in the north of Donetsk, Maybe a supper [signal]

    19:57 #Donetsk @062_Region Battle in #Pisky, heavy machine gun fire

    19:41 #Donetsk @666_mancer [fb] "Mortar? from Topaz area towards #Avdeevka? fly-over time is 20sec. More outgoing fr/position further west"

    19:22 #Donetsk @relictDon Today evening gunnery in the northwest started as usually just after 7pm. Sporadic single gunshots from Azotny

    20:21 #Dzerzhynsk @TarasUkrop_ Heavier weapon [than small arms] is started to be used

    20:15 #Dzerzhynsk @TarasUkrop_ They started early today, small arms is heard well
    More Russian war crimes in their shelling of civil housing areas—confirmed by OSCE---

    #News
    The @OSCE_SMM confirms once again that residential areas in #Horlivka ARE shelled by 122 / 152 mm artillery from N-N-W.


    20:33 @kmet7575 Again incoming in #Luhanske area

    Marinka and Zolote checkpoints shelled by Russian mercenaries over the past day-State Border Service http://en.censor.net.ua/n346262

    21:30 #Vuhlehirsk @GirkinGirkin One can hear cannons working in the fields, no incoming

    As contact group holds talks in Minsk, Horlivka is being peacefully shelled.

    21:05 #Maryinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] There were couple of booms in #Krasnohorivka direction, here a bit of MG fire in horse stables dir'n

    Avdiivka 22:16
    Assault rifles, towards #Optyne, very intense!
    https://twitter.com/fingerw80/status/628284231291170816

    Avdiivka 22:18
    Very strong breaks in #Optyne-#Pisky area. Outgoing from #Donetsk. https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/628283693052887040
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-03-2015 at 07:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Appears that the Putin demanded "sign of good faith" was really a smoke screen to get the Ukrainians out of this strategic town with the help of the US and the EU.

    Since the Russians only pulled back 1.4km and not verified by the OSCE the Russians have attacked the Ukrainian position four times in the last three days.

    Well so much for the US supported/demanded "sign of good faith'????

    Guess in Russian doublespeak it means you pull back and get shot at and we do the shooting and do not pull back and yet demand a "sign of good faith" on your part.
    youtube.com/watch?v=M_wC6MuarKY … #Donbas Battalion chief:#Shyrokyne demilitarization 'betrayal of #Ukraine's interests.' 100%! pic.twitter.com/wywQ2v6ajk

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    More Russian war crimes in their shelling of civil housing areas—confirmed by OSCE---

    #News
    The @OSCE_SMM confirms once again that residential areas in #Horlivka ARE shelled by 122 / 152 mm artillery from N-N-W.


    20:33 @kmet7575 Again incoming in #Luhanske area

    Marinka and Zolote checkpoints shelled by Russian mercenaries over the past day-State Border Service http://en.censor.net.ua/n346262

    21:30 #Vuhlehirsk @GirkinGirkin One can hear cannons working in the fields, no incoming

    As contact group holds talks in Minsk, Horlivka is being peacefully shelled.

    21:05 #Maryinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] There were couple of booms in #Krasnohorivka direction, here a bit of MG fire in horse stables dir'n

    Avdiivka 22:16
    Assault rifles, towards #Optyne, very intense!
    https://twitter.com/fingerw80/status/628284231291170816

    Avdiivka 22:18
    Very strong breaks in #Optyne-#Pisky area. Outgoing from #Donetsk. https://twitter.com/bamr69/status/628283693052887040
    Reports of shelling tonight in Avdiivka, Dzerzhyns'k, Mar'inka, Novgorodske, Donetsk(outgoing)

    Donetsk. Single shots turned into chaotic fxxxxxx crazy. Incomings, outgoings. Closer and further. Truce, in one word. https://twitter.com/TaylerRid/status/628292706771578881

    22:59 #Avdeevka @bamr69 It looks like they are pounding from Abakumova mine - there are flashes

    22:57 #Donetsk @donetskye Single outgoing from Topaz

    22:47 #Avdeevka @owl_ok Machine gun rattles off

    22:46 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Short lull and again small arms fire in #Opytne
    22:49 [3 impacts between Avdeevka and Opytne]

    Minsk talks continue, Avdeevka is being shelled...

    22:08 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Battle sounds are becoming louder, AGL joined

    22:42 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Again incoming in #Opytne area

    22:43 #Starobesheve @hubeshevo [cannonade is audible]

    22:39 #Avdeevka @LuftGanze "Rumble, irrational town center shelling"

    22:37 #Avdeevka @avdey777ka Town center has been shelled [no UKR reply at all]

    22:36 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster "One more voltage drop. Btw, battle sounds went silent unnoted"

    22:15 #Maryinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] Made some noise and calmed down
    22:25 Oh no, not ceased, GAI is noisy [=battle sounds]

    22:28 #Donetsk @donetskye Again volleys at Avdeevka
    22:30 Topaz joined [=volleys from Topaz]

    22:08 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Battle sounds are becoming louder, AGL joined

    22:03 #Donetsk Tekstilschik @PVB40 [fb] We can hear massive single dull [outgoing rounds like from Topaz tow/#Pisky]

    22:00 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Schedule, again incoming in #Opytne direction

    21:20 #Lysychansk @lisichanskiy Big flashes seen in #Popasna direction, almost no sound
    21:22 Distant landings heard

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    Talking, talking talking, shelling, shelling, shelling—over an agreement that both the mercenaries and Russians “claimed” they themselves proposed and in front of rolling Russian media cameras “claimed” they had already done—so why now the massive resistance over the “wording”.

    Just gives the Russian troops and her mercenaries more time for shellings----

    In Minsk talks will continue today on the text of an agreement to withdraw from the contact line arms caliber 100 mm or less.

    BUT all the current Russian shellings are coming from 120mm and larger weapon systems THAT were to have been long ago pulled back and verified by OSCE—which the Russians did not allow.

    AND the West responds exactly how---total utter silence that is how.

    #Debaltsevo 5:20AM
    (RU artillery) working from us. Looking forward to return fire. https://twitter.com/Debaltsevo_UA/st...90077941592064

    4:30AM
    #Debaltsevo and #Svetlodarsk loud. https://twitter.com/audrius1977/stat...86234755362816

    Avdiivka 1:50AM
    "Pushkin now loud again.
    Incoming, where is falling exactly I do not know " https://twitter.com/audrius1977/stat...38642981912578

    Novohorlivka 1:32AM
    Outgoing, from somewheare close to us https://twitter.com/Bad_Novoross/sta...32639666180096

    Horlivka 1:33AM
    Salvos. With a long echo or noise from a flying projectile. https://twitter.com/adochek/status/628332908642717696

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Reports of shelling tonight in Avdiivka, Dzerzhyns'k, Mar'inka, Novgorodske, Donetsk(outgoing)

    Donetsk. Single shots turned into chaotic fxxxxxx crazy. Incomings, outgoings. Closer and further. Truce, in one word. https://twitter.com/TaylerRid/status/628292706771578881

    22:59 #Avdeevka @bamr69 It looks like they are pounding from Abakumova mine - there are flashes

    22:57 #Donetsk @donetskye Single outgoing from Topaz

    22:47 #Avdeevka @owl_ok Machine gun rattles off

    22:46 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Short lull and again small arms fire in #Opytne
    22:49 [3 impacts between Avdeevka and Opytne]

    Minsk talks continue, Avdeevka is being shelled...

    22:08 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Battle sounds are becoming louder, AGL joined

    22:42 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Again incoming in #Opytne area

    22:43 #Starobesheve @hubeshevo [cannonade is audible]

    22:39 #Avdeevka @LuftGanze "Rumble, irrational town center shelling"

    22:37 #Avdeevka @avdey777ka Town center has been shelled [no UKR reply at all]

    22:36 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster "One more voltage drop. Btw, battle sounds went silent unnoted"

    22:15 #Maryinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] Made some noise and calmed down
    22:25 Oh no, not ceased, GAI is noisy [=battle sounds]

    22:28 #Donetsk @donetskye Again volleys at Avdeevka
    22:30 Topaz joined [=volleys from Topaz]

    22:08 #Dzerzhynsk @blessmaster Battle sounds are becoming louder, AGL joined

    22:03 #Donetsk Tekstilschik @PVB40 [fb] We can hear massive single dull [outgoing rounds like from Topaz tow/#Pisky]

    22:00 #Avdeevka @fingerw80 Schedule, again incoming in #Opytne direction

    21:20 #Lysychansk @lisichanskiy Big flashes seen in #Popasna direction, almost no sound
    21:22 Distant landings heard
    ATO presser reported 109 russian attacks along the contact line yesterday. Continue to use mortars, artillery, tanks https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...43030522374420

    NOTICE--none of these weapons are under the 100mm that they are talking about in Minsk AND secondly all of these weapons where to have been pulled back in February 2015--and were not and were not verified by OSCE.

    SO--Russia is still not in full compliance and or has never implemented any point in Minsk 2 except they can talk, talk, and more talk.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 08-04-2015 at 05:31 AM.

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    Contact group in Minsk yday agreed to restore the infrastructure of Donbass and exchanged lists of prisoners to be released.

    NOTICE--it was the Russians that totally stopped all POW exchanges in March 2015--PER Minsk 2 ALL should have been exchanged by the end of February 2015--and yet more talk, talk and more talk-BUT it is just a list.

    Minsk 2 demanded a full and complete exchange not lists---AGAIN Russia is not in compliance with Minsk .

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    Examples of Russian Orwellian "doublespeak"---

    BUT naturally not supported at all by Russia and or the FSB……..YET somehow they ended up in Moscow—BUT that is not “support” in Russian doublespeak.

    Oh boy. Azarov, PM under Yanukovych & others in #Russia will actively work to remove #Ukraine's current pro-EU govt. https://twitter.com/MoscowTimes/stat...75546825342977

    MORE Russian doublespeak—in Minsk they talk about rebuilding damaged infrastructure BUT then the Russians shell Ukrainian critical infrastructures---

    Colonel Motuzyanyk: militants shelled the coking plant in Avdiyivka pic.twitter.com/d8BVwJCuBu

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    All Russian shellings with weapons of 120mm or more are in clear violation of Minsk 2 and Russia is in full non compliance---

    SBU seized the weapons of the terrorist group "Kharkiv partisans" http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/4-augus...-group-kharkiv … pic.twitter.com/Qwm96DqHBX via @ServiceSsu

    ATO speaker: @OSCE_SMM spotted enemy military hardware in residential districts near the frontline

    Another Russian war crime spotted this time by OSCE—Russia is using civilian shields to protect their own equipment and to shell the Ukrainian positions.


    ATO spox: UA law enforcement troops found an arsenal in the Luhansk region: 2 grenades, 2 grenade launchers, ammo pic.twitter.com/lZujQxvxj0

    Motuzyanyk: 10 enemy UAVs over ATO area, 7 – over Zaporizhya region

    ATO spokesperson: 3 Ukranian soldiers KIA, 7 – wounded

    Colonel Motuzyanyk: Mariupol sector: Combat actions near Starohnativka and Pavlopil

    Col. Oleksandr Motuzyanyk: UA positions near villages 10-15 km away from the frontline remain under heavy hostile shelling.

    ATO spox: On the western outskirts of Donetsk fighting continues day-and-night.


    ATO spokesperson: Militants for more than an hour shelled Ukrainian positions near Troitske using 152-mm artillery.

    Col. Motuzyanyk: After sunset the enemy uses tanks and heavy mortars firing straight from residential districts of Horlivka and its suburbs.

    ATO spox: Donetsk sector: situation continues deteriorating. The enemy systematically violates cease-fire at the front area

    ATO spokesperson: Short-term hostile shelling was noticed near Shchastya.

    Col. Motuzyanyk: The enemy continues tactics of night attacks using mortars and grenade launchers.

    Col. Oleksandr Motuzyanyk: Luhansk sector: Hotzones: UA positions near Stanytsia Luhanska and the right bank of Siversky Donets River.

    Map. Situation in eastern #Ukraine, August 4, 00:00 EET pic.twitter.com/MKkUfdDlAQ

    Yesterday militants twice tried to storm checkpoint Mariinka. Attacks were repelled - Border guard servicehttp://dpsu.gov.ua/ua/about/news/news_8070.htm

    Another cache of weapons found SBU in Novopskov district of Luhansk region http://liveuamap.com/en/2015/4-augus...u-in-novopskov … pic.twitter.com/G0svWTWk8l via @ServiceSsu

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