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    CrowBat...something for you....

    Iran’s Homemade F-313 “Qaher” Stealth Jet
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    CrowBat...something for you....

    Iran’s Homemade F-313 “Qaher” Stealth Jet
    theaviationist.com/2017/04/15/new-photos-and-video-of-irans-homemade-f-313-qaher-stealth-jet-have-just-emerged-and-heres-a-first-analysis/#

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    Can't understand how can anybody take that toy seriously any more...

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    Even if they would have a decent chance to be successful it such projects just seem a huge waste of money due to the very high opportunity costs...

    More so if the economic legs are so marginal in propping up the whole state. If you disregard the common good much is of course possible until it all breaks down.
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    I wish the Iranians all the best. Indeed, I wish them a quick removal of that fascistoid regime that's terrorising even itself (as absurd and amazing at it might sound, but that's the simple truth about the Khamenei, IRGC and the entire gang of cliques there).

    However, and I'm very sorry to say it: I do not see how should their protesting ever work?

    The regime is so deeply embedded in the society, and having such a firm grip of the economy and security, nothing else but a civil war might ever work.

    Indeed, 'this time' it's the very core basis of the IRGC's regime that's protesting. Contrary to what various of Shah-wannabes abroad are trying toe explain, it's masses of poor Iranians. Not the educated elite, nor anybody else, but the poorest between the poorest. Just like in Syria of 2011.

    With other words: in 'best case scenario', this is going to be 'just another Syria of 2011' (even much of 2012).

    Perhaps even worse than that: the last six years, the Mullah regime has been taught (by the West), that it can apply any kind of terror, any kind of weapons upon its own population (and that of several neighbouring countries) - and absolutely nothing is going to happen to it.

    On the contrary: Airbus and Boeing are going to continue selling it airliners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post

    With other words: in 'best case scenario', this is going to be 'just another Syria of 2011' (even much of 2012).

    Perhaps even worse than that: the last six years, the Mullah regime has been taught (by the West), that it can apply any kind of terror, any kind of weapons upon its own population (and that of several neighbouring countries) - and absolutely nothing is going to happen to it.
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    Harsh words but I fear there is more then just some truth in it. All those wars with their brutalities and often direct Iranian military intervention have certainly set the bar of feasible terror very low.

    Economically the times are harsh although some support will come from the higher oil prices .
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    Default Not for Gaza, not for Lebanon, we will die for the sake of Iran

    Someone loves Qassem Soleimani, it's Palestinian children - an Israeli watcher has spotted a video by children in Gaza singing his praises. Whilst reportedly demonstrators in Iran were saying something very different.
    Link:http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/...rapprochement/
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    Of course there is 'more than just some truth in it'.

    One is that there is an all-out Iranian military intervention in Syria going on since 6 years, with the IRGC-QF controlling and providing for up to 250,000 troops there (including locals)...

    ...another is that there is no Syria even in form of an 'Assad Regime' actually left worth talking about, because everything there is de-facto IRGC-QF-controlled...

    ...and yet all of the West can't find a single Pasdaran in all of Syria, and don't anybody dare touching that nuclear treaty.

    ...while all are crying foul about three (in digits: 3) Hezbollah in Yemen, fantasising about some 'increased tempo of Iranian arms deliveries to the Houthis', and increasing the resulting hysteria for an 'Iranian effort to destabilize the Middle East'.

    ...while two (out of several thousands) of videos showing a few Iranian protesters calling for something like 'return of the Shah', are happily misinterpreted into who-knows-what sorts of amazing stuff and whatever else.

    When not only the politics, but indeed the entire 'reality' goes that absurd... then it's sure as Hell: there few billions of sticky, little, green truths in it.

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    Default Rouhani’s budget transparency stokes Iran unrest

    Hopefully this FT article can be viewed; normally there is a pay wall. A "taster" passage:
    As disgruntlement festered over rising living costs and complaints that Mr Rouhani had failed to back his promises of reform grew louder, the budget exposed the large amounts of taxpayers’ cash allocated to religious institutions and other entities affiliated to factions within the Islamic regime.
    Link:https://www.ft.com/content/d3f6eebe-...2-2c9be7f3120a
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