Flight KGL9268: shot down over Sinai?

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Unconfirmed....the Russia aircraft had a history of technical problems prior to this flight, but it appeared also to be an engine issue that does not rule out a SAM hit.

Will wait to see how this plays out..........

Video claim shot down #Russia' passenger plane above #Egypt #Sinai today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvZ0u6vqQY …
Fake? or not?

IS has been operating in the area......configuration of the aircraft does appear to be an Airbus 320 series---might have in fact been returning due to an emergency call by the pilot and then hit by a SAM????

Sinai: don't want to speculate to much but Ansar Bait al-Maqdis DOES have manpads.
https://youtu.be/QWztP6rDges

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Interesting if true as it appears the Airbus had engine issues and that would not have caused it to brake up in mid air........the IS video did show the aircraft training smoke from the engines

If news that #7K9268 bodies are found up to a 5km radius, then almost certain aircraft broke up in the air. RIP to the dead.

Russian pilots didn't let #Egypt air traf. controller know on emergencies, didn't ask for landing #7K9268 #Airbus321
pic.twitter.com/wdp7NmIv64

[OUTLAW 09]

Interesting if true as it appears the Airbus had engine issues and that would not have caused it to brake up in mid air........the IS video did show the aircraft training smoke from the engines

If news that #7K9268 bodies are found up to a 5km radius, then almost certain aircraft broke up in the air. RIP to the dead.

Russian pilots didn't let #Egypt air traf. controller know on emergencies, didn't ask for landing #7K9268 #Airbus321
pic.twitter.com/wdp7NmIv64

Here is a some additional info..... a number of Syrian commenters who have been tracking IS since 2011 do not in fact rule out 100% a SAM hit.

The aircraft literally broke up in mid air. the pilot did not at anytime state his emergency, the smart phone video while grainy did in fact depict the shape and configuration of an airbus in descent, flight radar 24 in fact confirms a sink rate of 6K feet per minute and it was when the video was made at SAM height, and the video depicts the aircraft trailing black smoke from the engine area.

Social media open source checks have indicated no old photo depicting a burning Airbus previously anywhere in the net.

On top of all of this AF and Lufthansa immediately stopped flying over the area AND the Russians have an overall poor performance rate on the maintenance of their commercial aircraft--this Airbus if reporting is correct was over 20 years old and the pilot had complained about the plane's conditions to his wife.

Side note--there has not been any reported similar mid air breakups by any Airbus before and there is a large number of them over 20 years and still flying daily.

If one looks at the crash site photos the plane hit the ground in about three main pieces and burnt out--interesting is the fact that at one of the burn sites with a large amount of crash wreckage the wings/engines were nowhere to be seen which seems to indicate they detached earlier and in mid air.

Still a puzzle I think......

[jcustis]

This seems to show that the only thing missing onthe ground was the tail:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-up-in-mid-air

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This seems to show that the only thing missing onthe ground was the tail:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-up-in-mid-air

Interesting that the owner of the aircraft today has "lanced" the thought that there was something more at work that engine problems.

Might simply be CYA on their part to coverup any poor maintenance on the aircraft BUT more international airlines are no longer flying over the crash area and they have not clearly stated why that is??

[jcustis]

My guess is they are not flying over the Sinai for illogical reasons, the seats just can't be sold, and they have to show due diligence on being "careful".

No matter the final determination of the cause, this is going to tank tourism even further and hurt Sisi. Cairo bookings are already in the crapper and the bombing of the Mexican convoy in the desert was bad but somewhat manageable through PR spin.

The Egyptians, Airbus, Russians, and EU onlookers are all going to press for a conclusive determination of the cause and a very public release of the results.

If it turns out an engine took a dump or the airframe split, Sisi will demand that the word gets out in order to deflect any concerns of insurgent action in his country. He'll play the Russians to ensure they release those details if that's how it shakes out. Russia can point a finger at Airbus and blame the OEM.

If it turns out to be terrorism, Airbus will be all over that to prove its aircraft was airworthy.

The Russian government has little to lose, no matter how this plays out, so it's pretty even odds that the cause will be released, if it can be conclusively determined.