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    Al Arabiya English ✔ @AlArabiya_Eng
    #BREAKING Black box confirms 'violent, sudden' demise of Russian jet: investigation source
    http://ara.tv/zrhqn

    ISIS reportedly warned of 'something big in the area' before the Russian plane went down in Egypt
    http://read.bi/1PfrME1

    Sound of explosion heard on Russian plane's black box: French TV
    http://reut.rs/1OtPDzQ

    Unprecedented: US & UK shared #SinaiCrash intel w/#Russia before #Putin suspended Russian flights to Sharm
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    In a new news re #Sinai plane crash a new report revealed a #UK plane barely survived a missile fired near Sharm el-Sheikh last year..

    Reports that an IS SAM missed an UK airliner by 300 meters in August this year....UK and US kept it quiet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    In a new news re #Sinai plane crash a new report revealed a #UK plane barely survived a missile fired near Sharm el-Sheikh last year..

    Reports that an IS SAM missed an UK airliner by 300 meters in August this year....UK and US kept it quiet.
    UK airliner had to dodge a missile while nearing #sharmelsheikh airport. But govt decided it was OK

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...sile-in-august

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    Default Was it a SAM or something else?

    To be fair the BBC is reporting:
    The British government investigated and concluded the incident was linked to routine Egyptian military activity and was not a "targeted attack".....Aviation security experts told BBC security correspondent Frank Gardner it had involved artillery practice by the Egyptian army.
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34754577

    There has been press reporting here of chaotic airport security @ Sharm, with bribes to pass through screening and poor security for airport staff. One gets the impression these reports did not reach anyone brave enough to refer the concerns to politicians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    To be fair the BBC is reporting:
    Link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34754577

    There has been press reporting here of chaotic airport security @ Sharm, with bribes to pass through screening and poor security for airport staff. One gets the impression these reports did not reach anyone brave enough to refer the concerns to politicians.
    The SAM launch in August cover story of "friendly fire" was simply a cover story in order to not to admit that IS had in fact launched a SAM and in order to not disturb the "tourists/tourist industry" which is important to Egypt.

    If you go back to the extremely limited "military SAM launch story"--there was not much at all carried even by social media--and the "military SAM" was never ID'd nor was they any explanation for a military exercise being carried out near the runway take off area that commercial airliners were using to gain height on.

    Actually if one tracks the cover story--social media only picked up on it in the last two days--a SAM launch friendly or otherwise would have been a massive red signal flare to social media--but nothing of the kind occurred.

    BREAKING: Black boxes show no system or hardware failures aboard #A321 prior to crash - RT
    http://on.rt.com/6v35

    ISIS in Aleppo releases a video congratulating #ISIS in Sinai for downing Russian plane
    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...n-airliner.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The SAM launch in August cover story of "friendly fire" was simply a cover story in order to not to admit that IS had in fact launched a SAM and in order to not disturb the "tourists/tourist industry" which is important to Egypt.

    If you go back to the extremely limited "military SAM launch story"--there was not much at all carried even by social media--and the "military SAM" was never ID'd nor was they any explanation for a military exercise being carried out near the runway take off area that commercial airliners were using to gain height on.

    Actually if one tracks the cover story--social media only picked up on it in the last two days--a SAM launch friendly or otherwise would have been a massive red signal flare to social media--but nothing of the kind occurred.

    BREAKING: Black boxes show no system or hardware failures aboard #A321 prior to crash - RT
    http://on.rt.com/6v35

    ISIS in Aleppo releases a video congratulating #ISIS in Sinai for downing Russian plane
    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archiv...n-airliner.php
    BTW--Putin's actions following the bombing have been a tad "odd"--for the first 72 hours virtually no comment, then a short press release and he still has not gone to St. Petersburg where many of the families are from AND that his is so called "home town".

    Secondly his actions in organizing just ten planes to bring home an estimated 70K Russian tourists are the actions of an "amateur" not at all the image of this "shirtless superman of a Russian leader".

    For days after air crash Russian TV said little about terror theory. Last night's bulletin had long report about 'Sinai Province' jihadists

    So is the next move by the Russian military and Putin "in defeating IS--into Egypt?????
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    Russia never misses a chance or the info warriors to blame the Wes for just about anything and everything.........FROM this time Sputnik fully owned by the Russian government....

    RussiaLies by trying to blame the West for #EgyptCrash.
    Sputnik suspects that British MI6 agents planted the bomb.
    pic.twitter.com/ZhUIRT7UqL

    BUT wait--a newer version is out........
    Wait! it wasn't MI5,It was the CIA who shot down the Russian plane,says Russian news source
    http://yournewswire.com/russia-captu...i-plane-crash/
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    The curious tale of how #Russia almost banned Boeing 737 jets and grounded half its airlines
    http://goo.gl/YD2xzi
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    BREAKING NEWS: Israel intercepted the ISIS conversations regarding the Sinai Russian plane crash & shared them with western intelligence.

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    British extremists linked to jet bomb:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...l-Sheikh-Egypt

    They were overheard celebrating moments after the explosion that blew the plane apart, killing all 224 on board.

    The jihadis were heard talking in Birmingham and London accents by spies at GCHQ in Cheltenham.

    Trained in Syria and with an electronics background, it is believed they may have had a hand in building the bomb.
    I'll leave it to our British friends to tell us the credibility of the Express. As far as I know it may be a rag, but if the report is accurate it is certainly concerning.

    “We know there are British jihadis in Egypt fighting with members of Islamic State. They were trained in Syria and are now hardened terrorists. Some of the Britons have an electronics background and have been developing some very sophisticated bombs.

    “They have been experimenting with different-sized charges and different types of explosives but there was nothing prior to this attack to suggest that they were going after airlines.”

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    Bill,

    I fear that the Daily Express and probably other papers have been "spun" a story from the intelligence agencies, albeit 'off the record'. There is a piece of legislation due for review and the official PR machine has been in overdrive to ensure it passes without amendment. On a quick check no other national papers have run with the story.

    Yesterday in my reading one report stated it was Israeli intelligence that provided the "chatter" to the UK after the attack.

    Awhile ago now a UK paper IIRC published photos of an aspiring IED maker, who had joined ISIS and upon examination a SME was far from convinced any IED could be made.

    We get regular reports on "chatter" and British accents being overheard in Afghanistan and the Middle East, rarely followed up - in the public domain - with anything else. Yes several hundred UK citizens / residents have gone to fight in the region in the last three years, perhaps a few can make IEDs and many more can boast accordingly in the knowledge it maybe overheard.
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    In Russian........Russian info war hard at work........

    Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant
    Here is Russian state TV basically accusing the US of complicity in the Metrojet crash. Take from it what you will.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSPNkCoClA

    from Russian state TV: terrorists took down Sinai plane with approval from the Americans
    https://twitter.com/navalny/status/663667172443594752

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    Russia's latest conspiracy theory: #EgyptCrash caused by "sound & light" technologies known to US, Israel & Germany
    pic.twitter.com/pKT4ovE3tY

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Russia's latest conspiracy theory: #EgyptCrash caused by "sound & light" technologies known to US, Israel & Germany
    pic.twitter.com/pKT4ovE3tY
    Russian info war drumbeat just keeps on beating........one has to wonder why after Russia admits it got formal info files from the US FBI.......and from the UK as well.

    @A_SHEKH0VTS0V ominous stuff, Kiselev indeed ends by suggesting West made a deal with IS(IS). Remember, Kiselev in Russia big & MAINSTREAM.

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    Appears both Russia and Egypt does not a full and clear investigation of the air crash....actually wonder why that is??????

    BREAKING: #Russia and #Egypt refuse FBI help investigating plane crash: U.S. source - @Reuters

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    Default It was....Turkish "Grey Wolves" who dun it

    John Schinder has written this article 'Who Really Murdered 224 Innocent People on Flight 9268?' and the sub-title says it all almost:
    First Moscow said the Islamic State brought down their jetliner—now the Kremlin claims it was Turkish nationalists
    Link:http://observer.com/2016/02/who-real...n-flight-9268/

    The very short version: the last two paragraphs:
    Moscow’s revised propaganda is consistent with presenting Ankara as the “real” force behind ISIS, which is a now-standard trope in Russian media. “Low-grade Kremlin bull####” was how a senior American intelligence official with extensive experience in the region described the current Moscow line on the Grey Wolves: “trying to pin the airline disaster on Ankara this way is sure to kick the hornet’s nest in Turkey.”

    That the Grey Wolves, not the Islamic State, murdered 224 innocent people is a far-reaching claim that requires genuine evidence to be taken seriously. To date, none has been forthcoming. If Moscow has such evidence, it needs to present it to the world, before the rising tensions it’s creating with Turkey threaten to engulf an already dangerously unstable region.
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