Suicide Attacks: weapon of the future?

[Sarajevo071]

Islam is part of a culture but is not in and of itself a culture. If in doubt, just change out the word Islam for Christian. I know that the "Christian culture" of Brazil is pretty different than the "Christian culture" of England.

Again, religion is a component of a culture not a stand alone culture. Don't make me tell the board's Anthropologist on you.

Muslim would answer to you: “Islam is religion, is culture, is universal idea and is way of life.”

[Sarajevo071]

Just be careful not to confuse LOCAL/TRIBAL customs, which sneak in local understanding of what is Islam. Great examples would be Afghanistan, Bosnia and Chechnya…

Afghanistan is full of pervasive look on bad behavior toward women (local/tribal customs according to Ahmed Rashid-man who knows that good- I recommend both his books), and mentality that was changed under decades of warfare and wahabi/salafi influence:

Bosnia was and still is open, multicultural society, always closer to European life style then to Arabic way of life, keeping Islam in sphere of private life, never forcing others into it. Even during they war when they felt abounded by Europe and US simple because they were muslims dying under serbian (christian) shells.

War in Chechnya started like a public resistance and war for liberation. Once again, Muslim populous was abounded by “freedom loved” and “democratic West” so they got help where they could… Arabs and they wahabi/salafi look on Islam. Let’s not forget, Wahabism is just ONE sect in Islam.

Anyways, my point is that Islam is not what many people today think that Islam is. There are many local customs and beliefs, behaviors that got mix and people there think that is Islam and they behave that way.

Compare Afghans and Taliban, and they appalling behavior toward woman while Islam when started rise up against killings of baby-girls just because Arabs in those time used to buried female babies just for being born - female!? Islam put end to that. And that same thing is still happening in China and Korea (not sure if those people are Buddhist or Christians, but they are not Muslims).

We may here discuses difference of suicide bomber killing civilians in restaurants or pilots killing villages with bombs, but ultimately there is no difference between innocents. I don’t think that those people care for different labels like “terrorism” and “preemptive strikes” and “collateral damage”. There is just they pain, tears and blood.


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I recommend these books by Ahmed Rashid:
Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia
http://www.amazon.com/Taliban-Milita...e=UTF8&s=books

Jihad: The Rise of Militant Islam in Central Asia
http://www.amazon.com/Jihad-Rise-Mil...e=UTF8&s=books

[Mondor]

Anyways, my point is that Islam is not what many people today think that Islam is. There are many local customs and beliefs, behaviors that got mix and people there think that is Islam and they behave that way.

That was my point exactly.

[uzodinma]

Islam forbids suicide and killing innocent people(without recourse to Justice and Law).According to reputable hadiths,suicide leads to hell that is further than a forty years scent of Paradise.This means that 911 is an act of disbedience and also means that Al Qaeda are dajjal (the Anti Christ) who leads to "Muslims" to hell while promising heaven!The failure of intelligence agencies to identify these weaknesses in the terrorist ideology suggests compromise.Consult me blog for free details: http://satanistterrorist.blogspot.com/

[davidbfpo]

An article from 2004 (pre-dating this thread) and found today, appears to be a good summary: http://www.newscientist.com/article/...er.html?page=1

davidbfpo

[davidbfpo]

One of the two attempted suicide bombing cases in the UK, in 2008, this one in Bristol (the other was in Plymouth IIRC) has finally been dealt with at court: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8144114.stm In a radio report special attention was drawn to the original impetus for police action 'came from within the Muslim community' and if IIRC previously reported as from a local mosque he frequented (not the first time this has happened).

Very short summary and I'd expect some more commentary before next week.

The Plymouth defendant was dealt with in January 2009: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7859887.stm and mother's interview on his vulnerability: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7664316.stm

davidbfpo

[goesh]

Al-Anfal (60):
"Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the Cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. "

whatever you spend, up to and including your life.........

[goesh]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534185,00.html

"GARDEZ, Afghanistan — Suspected Taliban militants armed with bombs, rifles and rocket-propelled grenades launched near-simultaneous assaults Tuesday on Afghan and U.S. facilities in two eastern cities, killing six Afghan police and intelligence officers.
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Militants, some of them wearing explosive belts and disguised in women's burqa robes, launched the attacks in late morning, storming the governor's compound, the intelligence department and the police department in Gardez and the U.S.-run airfield in Jalalabad about 90 miles to the northeast.
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A Taliban spokesman, Zabiullah Mujahid, claimed responsibility for the attacks. He said 15 militants — all in suicide vests — took part in the Gardez attacks, but officials said they believed all the assailants were killed. "