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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    In the intel world one constantly looks for indicators..in the case of eastern Ukraine the question has always been what is Putin's intent?....to pressure the Ukraine over the EU and on and on...THERE has never been a full discussion on whether he really wants to annex eastern Ukraine or not.

    With this Bild analysis the answer is very clear...he is after a full annexation regardless of what he is saying publicly which we all know he always lies.....

    THIS is extremely interesting as the town Debaltseve was during the Minsk 2 talks where Putin was present...at the heart of the agreement...Putin constantly demanded that Debaltseve was to be under Russian occupation and even Merkel was dismayed by his demands---at the same time extremely heavy fighting broke out with actual Russian troop units attacking repeatedly Debaltseve until it was captured.

    BTW--the actual town of Debaltseve as actually in Minsk 2 fully in UAF territory--while the heavy fighting was ongoing the US, France and Germany said very very little.

    During a press conference Putin "crowed" about the UAF being totally surrounded and that they must surrender...BUT surprisingly the UAF was able to withdraw all 3K troops and their heavy weapons much to the surprise of the Russian Army.

    NOW with this article we fully see that Putin and his military where working towards a full capture of the eastern Ukraine ie a military annexation BUT due to the heavy UAF pushback which surprised even the Russian military that annexation and total takeover did not occur.

    REMEMBER during the Debaltseve fighting the Russians held a massive one sided tank count of over 500 AD Obama was refusing ship TOWs as he did not want to "escalate" the fighting OR as was reported he was afraid the Russians would escalate even higher....WHICH they did anyway multiple times since then even when the US did not send the TOWs.

    Russia must’ve anticipated this prop-up of separatists when insisted on railroad city Debaltseve @ Minsk.
    pic.twitter.com/27GWtoBLlC
    Strelkov: "we had to take Debaltseve with Artemivsk in 3 days, but it lasted 1,5 months"
    pic.twitter.com/qvZRgiQMLh
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-janu...dnr-we-have-to

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    Russian tanks in Mirne, Lutuhinsky district of Luhansk region
    pic.twitter.com/WX8hPXr0t3
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-janu...ky-district-of

    OSCE vehicle attack in #Mariynka and other latest events part of #Russia's planned provocation against #Ukraine. http://www.mil.gov.ua/en/news/2016/0...ainst-ukraine/

    Will Putin continue to fight a two front war.........???
    "Moment of Truth": Russian TV's news review leads on economic woes: "We're hoping for the best, preparing for worst'
    pic.twitter.com/VTw2TdkE1n

    Really........???
    Russia's Energy Minister tells Russian TV that low oil prices gives Russia "the chance to diversify its economy"
    pic.twitter.com/M2lkvIMizK

    State Bank Chief (German Gref, Sberbank) Calls #Russia Loser Country "Stone Age did not end"
    http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-.../27491521.html
    pic.twitter.com/uxXoH3II5i
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-17-2016 at 05:58 PM.

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    Russian troop and her mercenaries are involved in a strong series of shellings and ground attacks today into the evening.....

    Helsinki Commission briefing sheds light on #Russia/n #humanrights abuses in #Crimea
    http://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/helsin...ses-in-crimea/ … pic.twitter.com/pfWAsKf6x8

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    Warning: @KremlinTrolls may be false flag account. Sows discord/distrust among colleagues. Reminds of Stasi tactics against GDR's dissidents

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    20:56 #Horlivka
    Battle at Shyroka Balka, many small arms, incoming and outgoing fire
    https://twitter.com/ahab9889/status/688797145877590016

    Michael Weiss ✔ @michaeldweiss
    Markov confirms Surkov and the Russian army run Donbas. Very insulting to the brave volunteers who think they do. https://twitter.com/golub/status/688800563547508737

    Frontline very active in #Donetsk and #Horlivka today. #Ukraine
    21:05 #Horlivka @062_Region Ongoing battles along the line #Mykhaylivka-#Shyroka_Balka-mine 6/7 -#Mayorsk: mortar,arty,SA,AGL fire, loudly

    20:56 #Horlivka @EllySmitt 'DNR tells of tank shelling of Horlivka, yet no reports on sites of impacts'
    @ahab9889 They shell *from* Horlivka

    21:02 #Horlivka @ahab9889 #Shyroka_Balka: a signal flare [=litterally 'a rocket' - may mean a rocket, missile and flare in Russia]

    20:39 #Horlivka @_John__Carter_ Orcs became active in earnest, used artillery at Novhorodske area, mortars over 82mm. Fire from city's west

    VK: 20:44 #Hranitne is under fire.
    #Ukraine #Minsk3 https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...05901420130304

    Around 4PM today UAF pos nr #Talakivka (abt 7km fr #Mariupol) came under RU fire from 82mm mortars, GL, small arms). pic.twitter.com/Yx57ePys4D

    About 2 hours ago UAF positions hear #Starohnativka were under RU tank(s) fire.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-17-2016 at 08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    20:56 #Horlivka
    Battle at Shyroka Balka, many small arms, incoming and outgoing fire
    https://twitter.com/ahab9889/status/688797145877590016

    Michael Weiss ✔ @michaeldweiss
    Markov confirms Surkov and the Russian army run Donbas. Very insulting to the brave volunteers who think they do. https://twitter.com/golub/status/688800563547508737

    Frontline very active in #Donetsk and #Horlivka today. #Ukraine
    21:05 #Horlivka @062_Region Ongoing battles along the line #Mykhaylivka-#Shyroka_Balka-mine 6/7 -#Mayorsk: mortar,arty,SA,AGL fire, loudly

    20:56 #Horlivka @EllySmitt 'DNR tells of tank shelling of Horlivka, yet no reports on sites of impacts'
    @ahab9889 They shell *from* Horlivka

    21:02 #Horlivka @ahab9889 #Shyroka_Balka: a signal flare [=litterally 'a rocket' - may mean a rocket, missile and flare in Russia]

    20:39 #Horlivka @_John__Carter_ Orcs became active in earnest, used artillery at Novhorodske area, mortars over 82mm. Fire from city's west

    VK: 20:44 #Hranitne is under fire.
    #Ukraine #Minsk3 https://twitter.com/666_mancer/statu...05901420130304

    Around 4PM today UAF pos nr #Talakivka (abt 7km fr #Mariupol) came under RU fire from 82mm mortars, GL, small arms). pic.twitter.com/Yx57ePys4D

    About 2 hours ago UAF positions hear #Starohnativka were under RU tank(s) fire.
    The #PutinEffect
    #Germany: +2x Tank battalions
    #Sweden: +2x battalions
    #Estonia: +1x brigade
    #Lithuania: +1x brigade
    #Ukraine: +12x brigades

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    BATTLE OF DONETSK AIRPORT ANNIVERSARY: Honoring Ukraine’s Cyborgs
    http://bunews.com.ua/opinion/item/ba...unXTQU.twitter

    #doomsday tomorrow for #Russia's #ruble as revoked #Iran #sanctions become true. #oil #FX
    pic.twitter.com/koIqecN1rF

    'Disturbing fire' in #Horlivka, no mil objectives are achieved with it, it's just for:
    1. keep locals alarmed
    2. receive combat wages



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    Appears even Clinton does not get non linear warfare......

    Hillary Clinton's relationship with #Putin is "interesting," she'd consider another "reset"
    http://mashable.com/2016/01/17/hilla.../#KnpHjW.TOSqP
    pic.twitter.com/l9CFLjmxhv

    .@HillaryClinton: I could do a reset with Russia, depends what we get for it… Relationship with Putin: It’s one of respect. #DemDebate

    Michael Weiss ✔ @michaeldweiss
    Russia has violated Reagan-era nuke deals; it is now arming Taliban in Afghanistan. Putin did not "come back". He was there when you were.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-18-2016 at 06:25 AM.

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    Putin is getting really close to the butter or guns decision.......

    Asian shares skid to 2011 levels as oil slump intensifies

    http://reut.rs/1ncZ8s5
    pic.twitter.com/o5ydgj6qYj

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    "How to not to" ...
    #LNR mortar training in occupied eastern #Ukraine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iO8j_-OR2k

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    In the intel world one constantly looks for indicators..in the case of eastern Ukraine the question has always been what is Putin's intent?....to pressure the Ukraine over the EU and on and on...THERE has never been a full discussion on whether he really wants to annex eastern Ukraine or not.

    With this Bild analysis the answer is very clear...he is after a full annexation regardless of what he is saying publicly which we all know he always lies.....

    THIS is extremely interesting as the town Debaltseve was during the Minsk 2 talks where Putin was present...at the heart of the agreement...Putin constantly demanded that Debaltseve was to be under Russian occupation and even Merkel was dismayed by his demands---at the same time extremely heavy fighting broke out with actual Russian troop units attacking repeatedly Debaltseve until it was captured.

    BTW--the actual town of Debaltseve as actually in Minsk 2 fully in UAF territory--while the heavy fighting was ongoing the US, France and Germany said very very little.

    During a press conference Putin "crowed" about the UAF being totally surrounded and that they must surrender...BUT surprisingly the UAF was able to withdraw all 3K troops and their heavy weapons much to the surprise of the Russian Army.

    NOW with this article we fully see that Putin and his military where working towards a full capture of the eastern Ukraine ie a military annexation BUT due to the heavy UAF pushback which surprised even the Russian military that annexation and total takeover did not occur.

    REMEMBER during the Debaltseve fighting the Russians held a massive one sided tank count of over 500 AD Obama was refusing ship TOWs as he did not want to "escalate" the fighting OR as was reported he was afraid the Russians would escalate even higher....WHICH they did anyway multiple times since then even when the US did not send the TOWs.

    Russia must’ve anticipated this prop-up of separatists when insisted on railroad city Debaltseve @ Minsk.
    pic.twitter.com/27GWtoBLlC

    How Russia finances the Ukrainian rebel territories
    http://ow.ly/X9wTh
    pic.twitter.com/ztiqzXA7aJ

    What is interesting about the BILD report in how Russia finances their mercenaries and eastern Ukraine....127 Russian language media outlets and 25 Ukrainian language media outlets covered the reports' release.....

    BUT NOT a single German media outlet........???

    Important Russian business portal @Radio_BFM covers our #DonbassReport beyond TASS summary.
    http://www.bfm.ru/news/313021 pic.twitter.com/ytTxMrgfG6
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-18-2016 at 12:19 PM.

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    Twitter banned hundreds of #Ukrainian users because of attacks of Russian bots
    http://uaposition.com/latest-news/tw...-russian-bots/
    pic.twitter.com/FuqzVFv05X

    Ukraine says to review cyber defenses after airport targeted from Russia - Reuters
    http://dlvr.it/DJfr1z

    @MoscowTimes Russia Considers Suspending Loans to Other Countries
    http://tmt-go.ru/556181

    Russia's Central Bank is lying about its reserves, here's what the math says
    https://ninajobe.wordpress.com/2016/...-reserve-scam/
    pic.twitter.com/jgDiLob2hM

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    Reference Russian info warfare.....hard at work......

    StopFake English Digest: Most discussed false news of the week debunked

    http://uatoday.tv/society/stopfake-573286.html
    pic.twitter.com/mBTunVSJ9x

    Stop Fake @StopFakingNews
    “Ukrainian Nazis” are really Russian nationalists. New fake from channel "Zvezda"
    http://www.stopfake.org/en/fake-ukra...-nationalists/
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-18-2016 at 12:59 PM.

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    Ukraine intel reports Donbas militants shoot in public places, steal arms
    http://uatoday.tv/news/ukraine-intel...ms-573244.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Putin is getting really close to the butter or guns decision.......

    Asian shares skid to 2011 levels as oil slump intensifies

    http://reut.rs/1ncZ8s5
    pic.twitter.com/o5ydgj6qYj
    Can Putin continue his two front war........????

    Worried about sub-$20 crude? Some sellers are already there
    http://reut.rs/1U6B0l2

    Russian 2016 budget was built on 50USD oil and now redone at 40USD per barrel......this will in effect cause the replay of 1989...just a matter of time--- about two months if oil continues downward.....

    A bulk of the Russian oil is "sour" thus those prices on the current market are in the 12-14USD ranges BUT Russia is still trying to get the Brent pricing......which many buyers are actually avoiding in exchange of Mexican oil.

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    Minsk agreement is one sided & absolves US&UK from providing border security as BudapestMemo signatories

    In #Mariupol sector #Lebedynske (at ca. 5km from Mariupol outskirts) and #Vodyane shelled with 120-mm mortars.

    ATO: UAF positions near #Starohnativka (#Staroignatievka) came under RU fire today from IFV's. GLs, AA-guns.

    LNR is stealing six Luhansk plants and all coal to Russia.
    http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/boeviki-vyvozya...v-201659_.html

    Moscow Patriarchate beefs up its staff for hybrid operations against Ukraine
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/01/1...ns-in-ukraine/
    pic.twitter.com/XWt6m1pM9H
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-18-2016 at 07:17 PM.

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    Russian troops and her mercenaries are shelling again today.......

    Russian-separatist forces attacked Ukrainian troops 28 times since the beginning of Jan 18 with Minsk banned weapons
    http://www.unian.info/war/1239891-uk...on-monday.html

    20:35 #Mariupol sector @milhlopak "O, that is #Shyrokyne under shelling, half hour it sounds from there"
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 01-18-2016 at 07:54 PM.

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    Maxim Tucker @MaxRTucker

    Former separatist chief Strelkov admits 4 murders during #Ukraine war. #Russia harboring a confessed war criminal.
    http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2016/01/18/7095793/

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    NOTICE the US and Germany are doing alot of urgent meetings with Russian counterparts about Minsk 2 BUT not a single Ukrainian rep is present.....????

    Merkel's security adviser Heusgen, with #Hollande's Audibert, met Surkov, Gryzlov, Ushakov in Moscow today to revive #Minsk process.

    Both the US and Germany have been attempting to force the Ukraine into unilateral appeasement moves without a recipocal offer by Putin.....

    AND again Surkov is on the sanctions list as the creator of the eastern Ukraine invasion.......

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    Carl Bildt ✔ @carlbildt

    Are cyberattacks against infrastructure in Ukraine the next phase in the hybrid war by Russia? We better take note.
    http://www.interpretermag.com/ukrain...day-700/#11931

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