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    19:39 #Donetsk @PVB40 [fb] #Makiivka, tow/ #Yasynuvata one could hear battle abt 30 min ago - SA, tube arty. Battle goes on

    20:33 #Horlivka Stroitel - it BOOMs somewheare. https://twitter.com/ahab9889/status/710172195142701056

    19:50 #Donetsk @tov_sobakin [ok.ru] "#Abakumova: one can hear #Krasnohorivka/#Staromykhaylivka"
    #Tekstilschik #DIPT: heavy ones heard well

    19:50 #Makiivka @vuiko65 Wow, what are they pounding with? strong hum goes

    20:00 #Makiivka @VasyaMakeevskiy RU large calibre artillery/tanks joined very loudly. Landings tow/#Yasynuvata interchange. fr/Yasynuvata?

    20:01 #Yasynuvata @tov_sobakin [ok.ru] rumbles even closer and louder

    20:03 #Donetsk @kotbarboss massacre northwartds. Heavy thunders are audible as hell in downtown

    20:09 #Avdiivka @rechnikato learned thru @kuzmich_vlad, it sounds loudly in #Yasynuvata, called there& yes, it does. Why nothing heard here?

    20:05 #Makiivka @vuiko65 They pound from the area of #Yakovlivka-#Hryhorivka ettles (#Gvardeyka), gunnery din is just like last winter

    20:10 #Makiivka @romarioall probably #Batman, #Bazhanove - sounds very loudly

    20:36 #Donetsk - towards #Spartak flashes and serious rumble.
    https://twitter.com/tov_sobakin/stat...72875777560576

    Bright flashes over #Yasynuvata as pro #Russia|ns shelling it from #Donetsk / #Makeevka with tanks and heavy artillery
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    Ukrainian Updates ‎@Ukroblogger
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FujTmsQIlEo
    Uh-oh. Russians compare drills in #Lithuania & #Russia-held #Donetsk.

    @mfa_russia Why don't you call on specialized int'l orgs to give an assessment of this Neo-Nazi forum in Russia?
    http://www.examiner.com/article/holi...i-forum-russia

    @mfa_russia Seems like Russia doesn't mind Nazis, anti-Semites and fascists.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...fascist-russia
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    Appears the "sudden demise" "by strangers" is a continuing problem for the Donbas separatist leadership levels......

    On March 16, Dmitry Kargaev, an aide of #Luhansk separatist leader Plotnitsky was shot to death by strangers
    http://society.lb.ua/accidents/2016/...sovetnika.html

    AND in Crimea....Tartars still are "disappearing even affer WW2".....
    The Moment of the abduction of Reshat Ametov, a Crimean protesting Russia's occupation. Later Found tortured, killed
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3BZ2R4TIoc

    BUT THEN this.......
    Russian radio station Vesti FM asks listeners: "Would you vote to keep the USSR today?" 94% of those texting in say yes.

    25 years ago today Soviet citizens voted 78% to 22% to preserve the USSR. By the end of the year the Soviet Union has passed into history.

    USSR hld it's singular referendum 25 years ago today on whether to dissolve itself. Via
    http://urokiistorii.ru/photos_of_the...month=3&day=17
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    ATO reported 52 RU attacks y/day in #Donbas, enemy DRG attempted to enter behind UAF lines near Popasna, repelled. https://www.facebook.com/ato.news/po...62836500393821

    Russian led Spetsnaz teams are still trying to find breakthrough points and are being basically kicked back every time with resulting loses.....
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    Fighting in the area of #Yasinuvata checkpoint, yesterday
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC4xCFKv57A
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/16-marc...ata-checkpoint

    Danish #intelligence agency to start ‘#hacker #academy’ to fight #cyberwar:
    http://cphpost.dk/news/danish-intell...r-academy.html
    WHEN Danes start this then there are some serious cyber war issues afoot.....

    Maybe because of this....
    Cyberespionage groups are stealing #digital #certificates to sign #malware:
    http://www.computerworld.com/article/304472

    I had posted a number of comments concerning a hacked Italian cyber security company that was deep in the cyber warfare side of the house and one of the takeaways from the research on the stolen 500G of data was the fact that they were using so called "save certificates" oin a lot of their hacker tools.......
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    Compare how hard @KremlinRussia_E pushes the military 'federalization' of Ukraine to how adamantly it ignores Syria.
    pic.twitter.com/bFIDAzJyjD

    Pavel Luzin: Art of Fortification - How Kremlin uses military bases 2 take Russn population hostage
    http://go.shr.lc/1QZPLpy
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    СММ ОБСЄ в Україні ‎@OSCE_SMM
    Hug: Shelling of the filtration plant in between Avdiivka & Yasynuvata represents a serious & fundamental escalation in itself


    Russian troops have been directly involved in this area of recent fighting..as late as yesterday ......

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    Avdiivka industrial zone, UAF positions, direct hit from self-propelled gun.

    Russian MoD & General Staff consider occupied Donbas, Ukraine under command of Southern Military District, Rostov HQ https://youtu.be/_t0--C_1q_w?t=15s …

    Russian forces deployed GRAD systems and tanks on Northern border of Crimea to mainland Ukraine https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/s...26049897697280 …

    One Ukrainian soldier killed, two wounded in last 24 hours, #Ukraine's military says.

    "Minsk in 'action' - shellings continued even during my visit to Shyrokyne," Lithuanian FM
    http://24today.net/open/642153

    Lithuania`s Minister of FA @LinkeviciusL personally saw pro #Russia|n shelling of #Ukraine positions near #Shyrokyne while visiting it

    .@LinkeviciusL first EU/NATO Foreign Min to visit #Mariupol & contact line since start of RU aggression.

    "Dangerous new phase of the conflict in eastern Ukraine": @usosce at OSCE today on Russia's ongoing violations
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-marc...astern-ukraine …

    Several massive attacks with IFVs in Luhanske, UA positions in Troyitske shelled with mortars – #ATO Spokesperson

    Col. Motuzyanyk: Yesterday, 11 episodes of enemy snipers` fire occurred in the Mariupol sector

    Russian Ground Forces move heavy armour to the Donbas front, then have cheek to lie that #Ukraine does! https://twitter.com/zvezdanews/statu...09979057065984 …

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    Wow.....now comes the Russian accusations that Latvia is not "protecting Russians"...and naturally the flip side is...we will come in as we Russia under the Putin Doctrine have the right to "protect all Russians anywhere at anytime"......AND that includes what they listen to....

    MFA Russia
    ✔ ‎@mfa_russia #Zakharova: Latvia’s inability to preserve specific political views in media has led to infringements on the rights of Russian media

    MFA Russia
    ✔ ‎@mfa_russia #Zakharova: We forewarn Latvia against rashly banning RTR-Planeta’s broadcasts

    Eliot Higgins ‎@EliotHiggins
    That's Russia, 152nd in the world press freedom index, criticizing Latvia, 28nd in the world press freedom index, over press freedom.

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    New @coe report says 5,000 people are missing in Chechnya.

    SWE FBI: (SAPO's ) chief analyst Young says that Russia conducts war preparations in Sweden https://twitter.com/aewastenberg/sta...98108589498369 …

    Mark Galeotti ‎@MarkGaleotti
    Full video of my @sakharov_talks lecture (in English) on #Russia|n org #crime + (too little) punishment
    https://youtu.be/hTG_Oh74CKE

    Russian FM desperately trying to get international recognition of their occupied Ukrainian zones....by any means possible....
    MFA Russia
    ✔ ‎@mfa_russia #Zakharova: @OSCE_RFoM could be more productive if it also involved media representatives from the Donetsk and Lugansk republics

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    Result of Obamas failed policies: Berlin, Paris Side With Moscow Against Kyiv In Normandy Meeting
    http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_...5#.VuqnkfD3aK0

    Berlin, Paris Side With Moscow Against Kyiv In Normandy Group’s Meeting

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 13 Issue: 49

    March 11, 2016 05:12 PM Age: 5 days

    By: Vladimir Socor

    As anticipated (see EDM, February 26), the “Normandy” meeting on March 3–4, in Paris, cornered Ukraine to extract its acceptance of “elections” in the Russian-occupied territory. German Minister of Foreign Affairs Frank-Walter Steinmeier did almost all the hectoring; his French counterpart, Jean-Marie Ayrault, provided the echo, while Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, seemed content to watch almost aloof, with minimal comments.

    According to Lavrov’s account, “Steinmeier and Ayrault proposed that ‘the sides’ [Kyiv and Donetsk-Luhansk] agree with each other on holding local elections by June or July. We were ready to support this proposal, but the Ukrainian side asked them not to insist, so there was no progress on the main issue, namely preparing those elections” (Interfax, March 4). Lavrov showed flexibility in his own way, giving Ukraine until July to yield. Steinmeier and Ayrault set their deadline for “June at the latest.”

    Lavrov’s summary reflects the success of Moscow’s tactics thus far: exonerating Russia of the aggressor’s responsibility, forcing Kyiv to deal with Donetsk-Luhansk, and using Western hands to pressure Kyiv into conferring democratic legitimacy on Russia’s proxies in Ukraine’s east.


    Steinmeier acknowledged in his concluding briefing that “elections are impossible without security” in Donetsk-Luhansk. But he admonished Ukraine that it is “unacceptable to postpone the elections ad calendas graecas,” because such “elections” are themselves a prerequisite to the political solution, i.e. changing Ukraine’s constitution by negotiation with Donetsk-Lukansk (themselves fronting for Moscow).

    To hold those “elections” by June this year, Steinmeier asked “the parties” (Kyiv and Donetsk-Luhansk) to agree on providing the necessary security “in the next few weeks.” The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE, under German chairmanship this year) shall draft, by March 31, a concept of providing security for those “elections,” albeit with the acceptance of the “parties to the conflict.” Apparently, deploying an OSCE civilian contingent for these elections’ duration is envisaged. The unspoken implication is that Russia would enjoy double veto powers on any “election security concept” or such a contingent: Moscow’s own veto in the OSCE, and Donetsk-Luhansk’s veto in the Minsk negotiations among the “parties to the conflict.”

    As part of the same process, Steinmeier and Ayrault called for a full ceasefire and withdrawal of heavy weaponry (understood to be Russia’s) from the area, to be verified by the OSCE’s Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) with full and unimpeded access. Irrespective of this—and because this call will probably remain as unheeded as the many previous calls—Kyiv is being asked to negotiate with Donetsk-Luhansk about the modalities of “elections” and a special law applying to those “elections.” That would evidently operate outside Ukraine’s existing legal and electoral system, notwithstanding Berlin’s and Paris’s claim that Donetsk-Luhansk election procedures would conform to Ukraine’s laws (see EDM, February 19, 23, 25).

    Summing up on Moscow’s, Berlin’s and Paris’s collective behalf, Ayrault reported with an undertone of satisfaction: “We have avoided retracing the history [of this conflict], we are proceeding from the Minsk agreements”—implying: there was no aggression, there is no aggressor (Auswaertiges-amt.de, Diplomatie.gouv.fr, March 4).

    Ukrainian Minister of Foreign Affairs Pavlo Klimkin argued that any pre-election security arrangement would be illusory without blocking the cross-border flow of weaponry and personnel from Russia into Ukraine’s occupied territory. Klimkin called for a deployment of OSCE civilian observers on what is legally the Ukrainian side of that border, now controlled by Donetsk-Luhansk forces. Ukraine had aired this proposal in previous “Normandy” meetings. This time it added technical specifics about observation posts and monitoring equipment to be operated by OSCE observers along that 400-kilometer border section. Lavrov declined to consider such proposals in the Normandy format, but would consider referring the matter to Minsk Contact Group’s working group on security issues (Ukrinform, March 4). The reason behind such a referral is that Donetsk and Luhansk are represented in the Minsk Group and can block such proposals there, while Russia would disclaim the direct responsibility for such blocking actions.

    The Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics” first held “elections” on November 2, 2014. No Western government or organization agreed to send observers, let alone validate those elections. Russia did validate them by announcing that it “respected” the outcome, mentoring and arming those “elected” leaders, and chaperoning them in the Minsk Group. Now, Russia is using the “Normandy” process and the OSCE for a repeat performance. In Paris, Klimkin said Ukraine would not accept “another November 2, 2014–like farce.”

    Ukraine’s representative in the Minsk working group on political issues, Roman Bessmertnyy, remarked after the “Normandy” meeting in Paris: “Berlin and Paris must decide what role they want to play in this process. We would like to see them in the role of arbiters, not of lobbyists for Russian interests
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    MFA Russia
    ✔ ‎@mfa_russia #Zakharova: Over the past 20 months, @OSCE observers have not registered any movement of Russian servicemen or hardware across the border


    BECAUSE Russia does not allow the OSCE to monitor along the Russian occupied Ukrainian border....BUT OSCE has identified Russian personnel and their weapons all year long......

    AND Ukraine has formally passed onto to Russia full identification of Russian Spetsnaz killed last week....in attacks on UAF.

    Another great example that the Russian FM spokesperson must truly be smoking something ........?
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    WHAT is interesting is that Nuland stated formally this week that until Russia fully implements all points in Minsk 2 there can be no "special law in the Ukrainian Constitution" as demanded by Putin thus no elections as well as they must be based on Ukrainian election laws...something both France and Germany seemed to have missed.
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    This is why there will be no elections or changes to the Ukrainian Constitution...until Russia fully implements all 11 points of Minsk 2.....

    Impossible to say,who is "DNR" terrorist & who a Russian soldier as they wear same uniforms
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF22iCMMMCk
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    Russian military flexing muscles on Ukraine-Crimea border
    http://bit.ly/22nKeBL

    Russia to criminalize Crimean Tatar Mejlis for refusal to collaborate
    http://khpg.org/en/index.php?id=1458227489 …...
    http://fb.me/7NyO24aSx

    The War Criminals of the 15th ‘Peacekeeping’ Brigade: Unpublished Story
    https://informnapalm.org/en/mar06-wa...eping-brigade/

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    EU at OSCE ‎@EUOSCE
    Chief of #OSCE Border Observation Mission reporting to OSCE PC. Permanent monitoring+verification by #OSCE on #Ukraine #Russia border needed
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    EU at OSCE ‎@EUOSCE
    Chief of #OSCE Border Observation Mission reporting to OSCE PC. Permanent monitoring+verification by #OSCE on #Ukraine #Russia border needed

    BUT WAIT...this today from the Russian FM spokeswoman.....
    Claims that Occupied border checkpoints are under Ukrainian control
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    Bodies of 60 Russian military shipped from Donbas to Russia in five days – Ukraine intel
    http://www.unian.info/war/1292963-bo...ine-intel.html …

    THEN over the last three weeks of the current Russian ground offensive Russia has had 60 plus of their own military killed and over 40 wounded...most were Spetsnaz.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Result of Obamas failed policies: Berlin, Paris Side With Moscow Against Kyiv In Normandy Meeting
    http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_...5#.VuqnkfD3aK0 …

    Berlin, Paris Side With Moscow Against Kyiv In Normandy Group’s Meeting

    Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 13 Issue: 49

    March 11, 2016 05:12 PM Age: 5 days

    By: Vladimir Socor
    Seems to be a sudden change of heart for Germany and France...following the lead of Nuland maybe????

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    Russian military convoy on 15 March at Donbass
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/17-marc...oy-on-15-march
    via @GirkinGirkin

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