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    CrowBat......headsup...one for your expertise.......

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    Remains of an AIM-120 AMRAAM missile, fired from a Turkish F-16 towards and invading object in #Hatay.
    https://twitter.com/ebuhafsturk/stat...53774580719616

    Sorry photo removed...cannot confirm....

    Have you heard today of any AIM120 being fired???

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BREAKING
    Remains of an AIM-120 AMRAAM missile, fired from a Turkish F-16 towards and invading object in #Hatay.
    https://twitter.com/ebuhafsturk/stat...53774580719616

    Sorry photo removed...cannot confirm....
    ...was in the process of downloading that photo when that account was suspended by Twitter...

    Anyway: 'complete silence' in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowBat View Post
    ...was in the process of downloading that photo when that account was suspended by Twitter...

    Anyway: 'complete silence' in Turkey.
    CrowBat....seeing how Twitter does not suspend an account simply because the end user violated terms of service...there had to be a formal request made to Twitter support and AC parts does not reach that level to close the account and knowing how strict the Turks are right now with anything to do with the social media side I would say the Turkish government removed that account thus we can safely assume the AIM120 was indeed fired.

    So from just social media comments....we have the following.......

    1. something was fired and it appears to have been a missile or rocket....two of them based on locally reported explosions

    2. then we have a locally reported report of heavy smoke right after a very loud explosion which came after the two missile strikes

    AND we have...

    3. numerous Turkish eye witnesses in the area stating an unusually high number of AC flying in and around the area

    4. and a single by social media comments identified Russian aircraft flying away from the scene trailing heavy smoke which the poster identified as a hit Russian AC but initially discounted it as unconfirmed by anyone else

    So if it was say a Russian UAV....they have nothing of the size that could have generated a very large explosion and heavy smoke when they go down.

    So was a Turkish supply vehicle of some sort hit in the area by Russian single lurking ground strike aircraft who definitely knew they were across the border which would explain the two missile impacts and then a loud explosion and black smoke as black smoke usually indicates vehicle and fuel on fire or a downed AC.

    Then the Russian strike aircraft was fired on and hit but only damaged which would explain the single photo some trailing smoke from the engine area...which again is usually where the AIM hits......and ties into the AIM parts seen on the ground and photo'd.

    One does not usually fire an AIM against a UAV...simply to much overkill an not enough target for the AIM to acquire. Jet create turbulence if flying close enough is all that is needed to down the UAV.

    And the utter silence is both the Turks and Russians urgently wanting to play it down.....one from the Turkish side to not start a war and the Russians so they cannot be openly accused of crossing into NATO air space just before their so called COH plan goes into effect...
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    Well it did not take the Russian long to violate their own agreements......

    First reported breach of the #ceasefire, Assad army & militias tried to advance to Ayn al-Hawr vlge in Akrad Mount 2 hours after midnight.


    Local activists in Talbisa #Homs reported 14 airstrike conducted by 3 #RuAF warplanes 2 hours before the ceasefire.
    https://youtu.be/49xFaDikEng

    Reportedly sr. #FSA leader Akram Kojak killed in the clashes.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...15&m=b&search=

    Video of one of the jets responsible for the massacres in #Homs today ...
    A #Russian Su-34
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLF6RHW9NE4

    Childen again wounded and or killed by Russian air strikes...BUT WAIT...Russian MoD states they are not bombing civilians...just terrorists aged 2 thru 5.......

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    Several dead & wounded during #Russian air strikes in the last minutes "before the ceasefire" in #Talbiseh.


    Massive devastation caused by Russian airstrikes in Douma #Damascus few hours before the ceasefire implemented.

    Reports Assad army handed over Eras village north #Aleppo to #YPG Kurdish militia and linked group Jaysh al-Thuwar.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36...b&search=ahras
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    Does Kerry ever notice his own hypocrisy .......????? He is worried about IS BUT ignores Assad who is in the UN terms a "war criminal" and based on the number of killed Syrians ranks definitely in the genocide corner especially for his ethnic cleansing of Sunni's and his use of chemical weapons and barrel bombs on civilians..........BUT....Kerry seems to have missed that part......

    Kerry weighs ‘genocide’ label for Islamic State

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/kerry...-sh&soc_trk=tw

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Does Kerry ever notice his own hypocrisy .......????? He is worried about IS BUT ignores Assad who is in the UN terms a "war criminal" and based on the number of killed Syrians ranks definitely in the genocide corner especially for his ethnic cleansing of Sunni's and his use of chemical weapons and barrel bombs on civilians..........BUT....Kerry seems to have missed that part......

    Kerry weighs ‘genocide’ label for Islamic State

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/kerry...-sh&soc_trk=tw
    Notice......Kerry never talks about this even in US TV or for that matter in front of Congress.....

    Nusra Golani: truce will redraw the borders once again. Sunnis will be a minority after millions forced to leave; thousands killed

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    Drone flight monitor rebel artillery attack on #Aleppo's officer club
    https://sendvid.com/47u36h1t

    Am assuming these field reports came in before the midnight CoH

    Regime still shelling Talbiseh in northern #Homs & Yadodeh in southern #Daraa tonight

    Assad's tanks destroy buildings at the outskirts of Daraya. #Syria
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0jIK4Bc1g

    Artillery shelling on Bdama in #Latakia mountains now
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=de&lat=35...08878&z=14&m=b
    Airstrikes & rocket shelling hit Kafr Zita city in northern #Hama now

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    CrowBat....seeing how Twitter does not suspend an account simply because the end user violated terms of service...there had to be a formal request made to Twitter support and AC parts does not reach that level to close the account and knowing how strict the Turks are right now with anything to do with the social media side I would say the Turkish government removed that account thus we can safely assume the AIM120 was indeed fired.

    So from just social media comments....we have the following.......

    1. something was fired and it appears to have been a missile or rocket....two of them based on locally reported explosions

    2. then we have a locally reported report of heavy smoke right after a very loud explosion which came after the two missile strikes

    AND we have...

    3. numerous Turkish eye witnesses in the area stating an unusually high number of AC flying in and around the area

    4. and a single by social media comments identified Russian aircraft flying away from the scene trailing heavy smoke which the poster identified as a hit Russian AC but initially discounted it as unconfirmed by anyone else

    So if it was say a Russian UAV....they have nothing of the size that could have generated a very large explosion and heavy smoke when they go down.

    So was a Turkish supply vehicle of some sort hit in the area by Russian single lurking ground strike aircraft who definitely knew they were across the border which would explain the two missile impacts and then a loud explosion and black smoke as black smoke usually indicates vehicle and fuel on fire or a downed AC.

    Then the Russian strike aircraft was fired on and hit but only damaged which would explain the single photo some trailing smoke from the engine area...which again is usually where the AIM hits......and ties into the AIM parts seen on the ground and photo'd.

    One does not usually fire an AIM against a UAV...simply to much overkill an not enough target for the AIM to acquire. Jet create turbulence if flying close enough is all that is needed to down the UAV.

    And the utter silence is both the Turks and Russians urgently wanting to play it down.....one from the Turkish side to not start a war and the Russians so they cannot be openly accused of crossing into NATO air space just before their so called COH plan goes into effect...
    Good reconstruction, thanks.

    And here 'corpus delicat... erm... delicti'...

    Inscription says that's the WCU-28/B - the guidance section of an AIM-120C.
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    Last edited by CrowBat; 02-27-2016 at 07:25 AM.

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