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    Better duck...the Sunni Shia sectarian war is about to begin and the Saudi's have been attempting to warn the US as has Turkey BUT the Obama WH has not wanted to listen.

    This Saudi journalist should be intently listened to as he is speaking for the Saudi Royal Family...

    Was released on 6 Feb but not picked up by MSM until today.......

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/view...-security.html

    World peace versus Saudi national security

    Wednesday, 10 February 2016

    In the event of victory for Saudi Arabia and its allies in Yemen, Yemeni politicians - including the Houthis, should they wish - would return to dialogue to build a country that is not governed by a dictator or a single political or sectarian faction. However, a Russian-Iranian victory in Syria will maintain an oppressive sectarian regime that caused the ongoing revolution, and will threaten global security.

    The situation is as dangerous as the Cuban missile crisis or the 1958 Middle East crisis, imperiling a region that is important for the global economy. So why can Washington not see that Russia’s thwarting of negotiations in Geneva, and the continuation of its fierce war in Syria, constitute a threat to world peace?

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry cannot be that naïve to believe he can convince the Syrian opposition to partner with President Bashar al-Assad to fight terrorism. What is wrong with the Americans? Why do they not listen to Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir when he says his country will militarily support the opposition if negotiations fail?

    “Saudi Arabia’s responsibility is to protect its national security, given that a Russian-Iranian victory in Syria will have negative repercussions on Saudi internal affairs.”

    Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu has made similar statements about his country’s support for the Syrian opposition, raising speculation in Turkish media about whether Ankara will be part of the Islamic military alliance announced by Riyadh last month. It is widely known that both countries reject a Russian-Iranian victory in Syria. The time has come for Washington to understand that the Saudis and Turks are not bluffing.

    U.S. inaction

    Americans would consider Turkish intervention in northern Syria, or Saudi shipment of surface-to-air missiles to the rebels, as a threat to world peace. This is how they should have viewed Russian and Iranian interference in Syria. Washington must take an immediate firm stance against this.

    Saudi Arabia’s responsibility is to protect its national security, given that a Russian-Iranian victory in Syria will have negative repercussions on Saudi internal affairs. Luckily, Turkey - another major regional power - shares the same concern because a Russian-Iranian victory would lead to their permanent presence south of its borders, allowing for the expansion of a Kurdish state or zone of influence.

    Why is this so unclear to Washington? Is it because of its withdrawal policy that President Barack Obama will be proud of when he writes his memoirs and describes how he protected his country from the sectarian wars of the Middle East? Riyadh must not take U.S. cooperation for granted. There are opponents waiting for any loophole to allow them to turn the table on us. Yemen and Syria represent the same battle, for us and them.

    What is happening in Syria threatens world peace. It is leading to the rise of far-right parties in Europe. In Jordan, the refugee issue is no longer just humanitarian but also political, a source of concern to King Abdullah and his government. He used the term “boiling” to refer to the state of his country when dealing with the flood of refugees.

    His government said the longer the conflict rages, the less likely it is that Syrian refugees will return home. It expects some of them to settle in Jordan, which suffers from a weak economy, while the rest will not leave for many years. Regardless of who wins the war, and even if it ends tomorrow, they have no place to go back to.

    These painful details should be told to Washington, which must take part in and keep pace with Saudi political and military activity in the region. The United States is an important player because it can face Russia. We should remind the Americans that the Syrian crisis has crossed regional, European and Asian borders.

    This article first appeared in Al Hayat on Feb 6, 2016.

    ______________________________
    Jamal Khashoggi is a Saudi journalist, columnist, author, and general manager of the upcoming Al Arab News Channel. He previously served as a media aide to Prince Turki al Faisal while he was Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States. Khashoggi has written for various daily and weekly Arab newspapers, including Asharq al-Awsat, al-Majalla and al-Hayat, and was editor-in-chief of the Saudi-based al-Watan. He was a foreign correspondent in Afghanistan, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan, and other Middle Eastern countries. He is also a political commentator for Saudi-based and international news channels. Twitter: @JKhashoggi
    This was the Turkish comment that the US and Russia should have been watching...US was silent and Russia laughed them off on their RT propaganda news....

    TURKEY: PM Davutoglu pledges to defend their 'Aleppo brothers' in Syria just as they defended Turkish cities in WW1
    https://www.rt.com/news/331968-turke...ention-aleppo/
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    Russia warplanes carried out airstrikes targeting #Bayanoun
    #Aleppo cs #Syria FEB 11

    Iran media announced the extermination of it's mercenary terrorist Colonel Saadat Khairkhawah,one of the #IRGC leaders
    #Aleppo FEB10

    even under war and siege Zamalka in the Ghouta has just held elections for its local council
    https://syriafreedomforever.wordpres...tion-of-a-new/

    Russia warplanes carried out airstrikes targeting #Anadan AGAIN
    #Aleppo cs #Syria FEB 11

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    Russian Syrian Express on the move again.......

    Rainy morning #SyriaExpress : #ВМФ Ropucha class LST #Бф BF Alexander Otrakovsky transits northbound Bosphorus

    ВМФ LST #Бф BF Alexander Otrakovsky completes first #Syria deployment of 2016, returns from #Tartus in 10 days

    Other ships that passed southbound on Feb 1st are not coming soon. Ropucha's maintain their the pace. #FLOT #ВМФ

    ВМФ Бф BF Minsk 127 transits the Bosphorus en route to #Tartus #Syria

    ВМФ #ЧФ ropucha class LST Azov 151 is en route to #Tartus #Syria

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    Turkish statements against the US and the UNSC are getting a tad sharper lately and when viewed in context of the Saudi article now make sense as they reinforce that the article stated.

    Turkey's prime minister has lashed out at the United Nations after it demanded the country open its borders to tens of thousands of more Syrian refugees, accusing it of failing to stop the Russian bombings that have triggered the exodus.

    Ahmet Davutoglu said Wednesday he considered the U.N. Security Council "two-faced" for telling Turkey to open its borders while not moving "a finger to solve the Syria crisis" or to stop the Russian bombardments.

    He also said the Syrian and Russian military operations were an attempt to drive out people who don't support the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

    By taking in the refugees that have fled the city of Aleppo, he said Turkey would be indirectly contributing to what he termed as an "ethnic cleansing."

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    4:30 p.m.

    Turkey's president has ratcheted up his criticism of the United States for not recognizing Syrian Kurdish forces as "terrorists," saying Washington's lack of knowledge of the groups operating in the region has led to bloodshed.

    Turkey considers the Kurdish Democratic Union Party, or PYD, which is affiliated with Turkey's own Kurdish rebels as a terror group. The PYD however, is a key force in U.S. efforts to root out the Islamic State group in Syria.

    On Wednesday, Recep Tayyip Erdogan reiterated his position that the PYD was no different to Turkey's Kurdish rebels, which the U.S. does consider to be a terror organization, or to IS.

    Erdogan said: "You failed to know (these groups). That's why the region is drenched in blood."

    Turkey summoned the U.S. ambassador on Tuesday over the issue.
    WHAT is extremely interesting is that when these Turkish comments were made they made no sense to the MSM and the MSM usually made negative comments towards them especially in the US media....ALL the while the Saudi article was sitting there since 6 Feb and not a single western MSM picked up on it......AND still has not .....now the Turkish comments take on a clear and concise context in relationship to the Saudi article.....

    Both fully view what the Russians, Iranians and Assad are doing as direct national security threats to their nation states...that wording should be causing an immediate meeting of the US NSC but silence......

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    Think Obama and Kerry are a tad overwhelmed right now........

    Perpetrators of chemical weapon attacks in #Syria must be held to account - @OPCW chief
    https://www.project-syndicate.org/co...uzumcu-2016-02

    Brings back is red line in full force again....just when he thought he had to do nothing....

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    Tip for social media open source analysis...

    spotting where imagery has been removed - the gaps, is a way of finding out what's hidden
    https://exposingtheinvisible.org/fil...of-the-visual/
    pic.twitter.com/mwxDibrPq9
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    MORE of the standard Ukrainian Russian refrain...it ain't us".....
    Russia Claims That US A-10s, Not Russian Jets Bombed Aleppo Yesterday

    http://www.interpretermag.com/russia...ppo-yesterday/
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    The Russian Ministry of Defence has accused the US Air Force of carrying out air strikes on the rebel-held city of Aleppo and attempting to pass the blame onto Russia.

    The state-owned RT channel reports that Igor Konashenkov, spokesman for the MOD, said today that two US A-10 attack jets had flown to Aleppo from Turkey and bombed nine targets in the city.


    “Yesterday, at 13:55 Moscow time (10:55 GMT), two American A-10 assault aircraft entered Syrian airspace from Turkey, flew right to the city of Aleppo and bombed targets there.”

    Konashenkov said that a Pentagon spokesman, Colonel Steven Warren, had yesterday claimed that Russian jets had bombed hospitals in Aleppo so as to pre-emptively deflect blame away from the US.

    According to Konashenkov, there were no Russian air strikes on the city of Aleppo yesterday.

    “I’m going to be honest with you: we did not have enough time to clarify what exactly those nine objects bombed out by US planes in Aleppo yesterday were. We will look more carefully.

    NOTE:: When the Russian MoD states "I am going to be honest with you"....literally run.....

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    What they do first is make unfounded accusations against us – to deflect blame away from themselves. If it goes on like this, we’re going to make two media briefings: one for ourselves, another for those coalition guys.”
    First of all, it's important to point out that Colonel Warren did not say that Russian jets had bombed two hospitals on Wednesday, instead he refers to "the destruction of two hospitals in Aleppo by Russian and regime attacks." No specific date for the destruction of those hospitals was given. Furthermore there is extensive evidence of the bombing of Syrian hospitals by Russian or regime forces, with multiple claims from medical groups and activists
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    The blame shifting claimed by Konashenkov is therefore a total fabrication.

    Moving on the claim that US A-10s flew from Turkish airspace into the Aleppo province and bombed the city in the midst of a massive Russian air campaign in the area, we extremely sceptical.

    Unless the Russian MOD could provide hard evidence of such a claim, it should be treated as false. Considering the extensive Russian air defence coverage of the area, with S-400 surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) deployed and within range, and the high tensions between Russia and Turkey, it seems extremely unlikely that two non-stealthy attack jets would make it all the way to Aleppo and back without coming under fire. Furthermore, we would expect Russian jet fighters, which have been flying combat air patrol and escort missions in this area since Turkish F-16s downed a Russian Su-24 bomber in November last year, to have intercepted any flight crossing the frontier.

    Russian jets were yesterday reported widely to have conducted multiple air strikes to the north and west of Aleppo, if not on the city itself, so the A-10s would have had to fly right through airspace in which numerous Russian jets were conducting combat operations.
    AND the Russian lying just keeps on keeping on........

    Daily #RussianLies: ...
    There is no #ISIS presence in #Idlib province.
    Nowhere.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEg-xaHM2GM
    pic.twitter.com/0EGBiC7hjS
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    Is the US actively providing CAS to the SDF/YPG when they are fighting known anti Assad forces ie FSA???????

    Local activists say it actually might be the USAF ~20 airstrikes that helped YPG militia take Menage airbase north #Aleppo not the Russians.

    Rebels retake #Qaroja village in Turkman Mount #Latakia countryside and kill several Assad soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Better duck...the Sunni Shia sectarian war is about to begin and the Saudi's have been attempting to warn the US as has Turkey BUT the Obama WH has not wanted to listen.

    This Saudi journalist should be intently listened to as he is speaking for the Saudi Royal Family...

    Was released on 6 Feb but not picked up by MSM until today.......

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/view...-security.html

    World peace versus Saudi national security

    Wednesday, 10 February 2016



    This was the Turkish comment that the US and Russia should have been watching...US was silent and Russia laughed them off on their RT propaganda news....

    TURKEY: PM Davutoglu pledges to defend their 'Aleppo brothers' in Syria just as they defended Turkish cities in WW1
    https://www.rt.com/news/331968-turke...ention-aleppo/
    The Saudi's and the Turks definitely know their "near enemies"...we are not far from a coming sectarian war that could have been avoided with US leadership...BUT WAIT there was none....

    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.

    -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    ichael Weiss ✔ @michaeldweiss

    Saudi’s decision to send troops in Syria ‘final’
    http://ara.tv/66k5d via @AlArabiya_Eng


    By Staff writer, Al Arabiya English

    Thursday, 11 February 2016

    Saudi’s decision to send troops to Syria in an attempt to bolster and toughen efforts against militants is “final,” the spokesman of the Saudi-led coalition force in Yemen announced on Thursday.

    Brig. Gen. Ahmed Al-Assiri, said that Riyadh is “ready” and will fight with its U.S.-led coalition allies to defeat ISIS militants in Syria, however, he said Washington is more suitable to answer questions on further details about any future ground operations.

    “We are representing Saudi’s [decision] only” in sending troops, he said.

    He also sent a message to Iran, saying that if Tehran is serious in fighting ISIS, then it must stop supporting “terrorism” in Syria or Yemen.

    Riyadh has long accused Tehran of supporting the Houthi militia in Yemen against the internationally-recognized government there. Iran is also a key ally to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

    The military spokesman also said that the Islamic Military Alliance will take effect within two months.

    Thirty-five Muslim countries released a joint statement announcing the formation of the alliance against terrorism in December last year.

    The alliance’s joint command center is located in the Saudi capital Riyadh.
    The video I posted yesterday purporting to being the transport of Saudi armored IFVs near the Jordanian border was initially claimed to be an older video and denied by a single Saudi account...but quietly and gently removed from the net....apparently not an old video and definitely Saudi IFV movements and definitely a not so subtle signal to both Russia and Iran....
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    ArmsControlWonk on possible #Iran rocket launch next week.
    http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archi...imorgh-launch/ … h/t @DaveSchmerler @KY_nerd pic.twitter.com/kyI1xYF9xY


    Russian cyber warfare hard at work although for the wrong reasons.....
    Mark Galeotti @MarkGaleotti
    #Russia #hackers make unlimited ATM withdrawals using a clever bank hack @Techworm_in
    http://www.techworm.net/2016/02/russ...bank-hack.html

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    BIG ===> Russian military exercises may be cover for war against Turkey...and NATO -- see the latest evidence here http://observer.com/2016/02/mounting...-ignite-wwiii/

    Putin and his MoD have since Crimea hinted at a possible war with NATO......

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    The White Helmets @SyriaCivilDef
    Here’s How Syria’s Regime Is Profiting From People Under Siege
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/borzoudaraga...GD#.uoLwVgMvGD

    Using Tor M2E SA-15 Gauntlet. Could hit aerial targets up to 15 km
    https://informnapalm.org/19736-21-j-omsbr-donbass/
    pic.twitter.com/mxqEXOiXv3

    Footage of the Saida field hospital in rural #Daraa, #Syria that was bombed by #Russia
    http://youtu.be/KD8MmUTMJ4c

    Aftermath of #Russia|n airstrikes in Tal Rifa'at, #Aleppo, #Syria
    http://youtu.be/E-LYIz44rig

    Note that on the map of Russian bombed #Kissin village, the school has been marked in Russian
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34...21594&z=19&m=b … #Homs #Syria

    Rebels regain control of the town of Hubar near Jabal al-Arbai’in in south rural #Aleppo, +20 Iranian lead miltias reportedly killed
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    Russia bombarding #Teir_Maela & all the north this night
    #Homs #Syria FEB 11
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8z48Nvy_zA

    Destruction aftermath yesterday's #Russia airstrikes on #Saida HOSPITAL
    #Daraa FEB 10 #Syria

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD8MmUTMJ4c

    SCD HERO Tariq al Kurdi, martyred while saving lives in #Daraa by the #Russia occupation airstrikes.. #Syria FEB 11

    .@SyrianHNC_en General Coord. @hijab_riad: Humanitarian Situation in #Syria Must Improve
    http://ow.ly/YdiQO

    US: Situation in #Aleppo “Dire”, #Russia-n Airstrikes “Enabling #ISIS” in #Syria
    http://ow.ly/YdieX

    Russian & #Assad Regime Bombings Kill 85 Aid Workers
    http://ow.ly/3z4jdj

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    Nice nasheed in this #Ahrar vid from the Latakia mtns.
    https://youtu.be/ZzAwU5tQSlg

    Regime Faces Discontent from Loyalists After Officers 'Betray' Soldiers in Ambush, Massacre #Syria
    http://sobsrvr.com/clEJjSjU via @observesyria

    Tour of Menagh airbase & village:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHNzG47NFNk
    Captured flags imply it was held by Ahrar.

    Hospitals on Turkey-Syria border overwhelmed, says @MSF.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...-idUSKCN0VJ2CE

    New " X / KH " payload on RuAF' Su-34 in Syria
    Shorter than Kh-35 . New air to ground missile


    Iran presented 4th generation of its Shahed-129 UCAV today (equipped with SATCOM, SAR radar and improved engine).

    Iran's proxy Kata'ib Sayyid al-Shuhada,fighting in #Iraq&#Syria,fully US-equipped(in Iraq)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61XqTmE31pU
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The Saudi's and the Turks definitely know their "near enemies"...we are not far from a coming sectarian war that could have been avoided with US leadership...BUT WAIT there was none....

    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.

    -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    ichael Weiss ✔ @michaeldweiss

    Saudi’s decision to send troops in Syria ‘final’
    http://ara.tv/66k5d via @AlArabiya_Eng

    The video I posted yesterday purporting to being the transport of Saudi armored IFVs near the Jordanian border was initially claimed to be an older video and denied by a single Saudi account...but quietly and gently removed from the net....apparently not an old video and definitely Saudi IFV movements and definitely a not so subtle signal to both Russia and Iran....
    Turkey's Erdogan warns patience will run out on Syria
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...source=twitter

    MORE: Saudi Arabia has offered to broaden participation in the US-led coalition air strikes against ISIS - @AlArabiya_Eng
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 02-11-2016 at 06:27 PM.

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    SAA failed attack on Ghouta from their own cameras
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFADsiyGBg4 … #Damascus suburbs #Syria

    Regime shelling from Qassioun mountain hits the #Jobar district of #Damascus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W7ITrL1sSM … #Syria

    Hardship of life under siege conditions in #Rastan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQbLR_fCgsA
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34...34161&z=13&m=b … #Homs #Syria

    Mosque in #Kissin destroyed by #Russia's #terrorist air raid
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnkrkA369s
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34...21466&z=15&m=b

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    Has someone been using wikimapia.org in order to target for the RuAF schools and other critical infrastructure........Russian marking of schools and mosques across #Syria

    Unbelievable
    A Russian marks Syrian #schools, #mosques & water towers on Wikimapia.
    Then some get hit by the #RuAF.

    Set Wikimapia language to Russian, and you'll be surprised how much of Syria is labeled in Russian...

    All through syria schools and mosques have been marked in russian. I even noticed it before the russian intervention.

    The last few school/mosque additions are on Latakia front lines.
    http://wikimapia.org/user/tools/watc...84930&type=999

    To keep map open, go to e.g.
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35...=/34456051/ru/
    Мечеть, History, username, show users's edits

    Marking history can be checked of 2 most prominent labelers, jrgjrg & Andrew Valdaj.

    The user Jrgirg talked to pnbr who edited objects in Ukraine and caused neutrality concerns w/ eds. Both registered fall 2012

    Here is the person's "work list" ... this is truly shocking.

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34...1784930&type=7

    KafrNaya, #Kissin, #Ratyan, #Latakia frontline villages &ISIS-held towns East of #Aleppo.
    He marks them appr. a week before they get hit.

    Evidence:
    This is target reconnaissance for the Russian army of civilian objectives!

    Schools and #mosques this monster marked last night in relation to the current pro-#Assad front in Latakia.

    2 days ago, he marked the radio tower and mosque in #TallRifat.
    Guess, where the bombs aimed at.

    He started his work on that very small town in northern #Syria 3 years ago, marking a water tower beside a school.

    I'm not saying, it's markings / air strikes 1:1.
    But the time+front correlation between the marked objects and the air strikes is prominent.

    Quite a lot of schools in Syria are marked on wikimapia. And they are still being added:
    http://wikimapia.org/user/tools/watc...84930&type=999

    Note that on the map of Russian bombed #Kissin village, the school has been marked in Russian
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34...21594&z=19&m=b
    The person marked the only school of #Kissin 7 days before it got hit by a Russian jet as @RobotNickk pointed out.

    In the map of fiercely attacked #Harbinafsah the schools are marked in #Russian
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34...24030&z=17&m=b
    Are any of those schools actually bombed? If school is bombed days after added on WM... :-/

    Kinsabba school in #Latakia is labeled today. Any info on Kinsabba?

    Syria Airstrikes by #Russia killed a dozen children in schools of Anjarah & Maarath Al-Artik in western #Aleppo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J82adSSV3Z4

    I see no schools marked there. We need more research to see the purpose.

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    Russia is being gradually replacing #USA as #SDF/#YPG 1st backer, thx to its air military power and anti-Turkish stance

    Footage
    #Assad forces shell village in #Latakia.
    Not the #FSA position nearby
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuVM4_WjojU

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    This press conference could ignite the entire Middle East from March or April on.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...-is-final.html

    If #Iran wants to join the coalition (vs #ISIS), they must stop supporting the terrorist groups and the militias in #Iraq and in #Syria."

    In other words: The #KSA regards tens of thousands of Iraqi & Lebanese pro-#Assad militants in #Syria as "terrorists".
    Party time
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    Now finally some in the DoD is fully understanding how to play the social media info war against Russia.....should have come much sooner....

    COL Steve Warren 
    ‏@OIRSpox
    .@MOD_Russia's tweets are wrong. Furthermore their bombing is reckless and indiscriminate and their efforts are strategically short-sighted.
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