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    Yasinuvata 30.03.2016: Russian military equipment on the street. Presumably new MLRS Uragan
    pic.twitter.com/tuEJ20QzGU
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/31-marc...y-equipment-on

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    Ukraine: Sep's have brought 4 Giatsint nr Yasnyvaty 8 km from front line banned by Minsk
    http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2016/03/31/7104034/

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    Russian ground attacks and heavy shelling's kept up the entire night and into the early morning today.....

    06:22 #Donetsk #Proletarskyi @DoneckiiPatriot very far salvos are audible

    77 hostile attacks upon Ukr troops over last day. Avdiivka remains hottest spot. Intense attacks in Mariupol sector - ATO press center


    Mariupol is becoming a critical point ...if taken then it lends itself to the Russian military pushing all the way to Odessa and linking Crimea to their Moldavian enclave....and giving their "New Russia" a major harbor and cutting the Ukraine from the sea.

    06:25 #Donetsk #Schetinina @DoneckiiPatriot Now closer single salvos. 06:26 and again sounds like starts

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    A serious battle has been under here for over 14 hours on and off.....now strong Russian attacks again....

    Yasynuvata 6:42AM
    "Ongoing battle! Shooting with everything they got!"

    https://twitter.com/swetlaha1706/sta...46009008246784

    Yasynuvata 6:40AM
    Sounds like battle at Promka, periodically tank firing.

    https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...46521615048705

    The entire front line was under attack for most of yesterday and into this morning.....this Russian slow stepped ground offensive is picking up in both intensity and attacks numbers...STILL not a single comment by any western leader...ie Obama, Merkel or Hollande.

    Makiivka 6:50AM
    "Very loud, sounds like at Butovka mine."
    https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/sta...48935554441217

    Makiivka 6:20AM
    Artillery working.
    https://twitter.com/AlexDobrov666/st...42403928461312

    Donetsk 6:30AM
    Northwest, heavy canonade.
    https://twitter.com/BylByleva/status/715747363655131138

    Russia has been demanding that the US pressure the Ukrainians to hold elections in their occupied zones under Minsk 2 and from all the major Russian attacks and heavy artillery next to the forward line Russia itself is in FULL violation of Minsk 2 and has never implemented a single point in Minsk 2 YET literally demands elections to give their occupied zone a "semi legal status".....

    Poroshenko: Current situation in Donbas makes holding local elections there impossible
    http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/334635.html

    06:32 #Yenakiieve @ZloyEnakievec Tracked hardware clattered along #Yenakiieve-#Donetsk route

    06:45 #Donetsk @rjpthjuljytwr [fb]
    #Kalininskyi #DOB: heavy salvos, north
    #Naberezhna can hear far salvos to the north, not a good morning
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    Russian info war paranoia hard at work........

    A presenter on Vesti FM just called opposition activists traitors & said West is plotting regime change in RUS. Does he really believe that?

    Putin does.......

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    UAF is indicating that this battle area is now quiet....confirmation coming via locals as well.......Russian loses are said to be high.......

    09:10 #Yasynuvata @GirkinGirkin [vk?] #Melnytsia: sunny and windy. Quiet

    BUT not so in other locations along the front line......

    10:00 #Makiivka @tov_sobakin [ok.ru]
    #Gvardeyka, mil comissariat: noisy
    #Vostochnyi2:rumbles strongly
    #Pastukhivka: hearing it loud&powerful
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    Russia just keeps on holding onto the Russia NATO Accord which they themselves killed by annexing Crimea and invading eastern Ukraine.

    NOTICE Russia is never ever at fault for anything.....it's always NATO, US or Europeans that are at fault........BUT again today is "April Fools Day"

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/politics/866497

    Diplomat: Deployment of US forces in Europe on rotation basis against Russia-NATO accords

    Russian Politics & Diplomacy
    April 01, 4:21

    MOSCOW, April 1. /TASS/. Russia does not accept the attempts to justify the deployment of more NATO forces in Europe by the claims troops are being deployed on the basis of rotation, as this rotation is indefinite, the Russian ambassador to NATO, Alexander Grushko said in an interview with the Izvestia daily.

    "A surplus armored brigade, which is said to consolidate NATO's eastern flank, runs counter to the letter and spirit of the Russia-NATO Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security," he said. "NATO took a pledge to refrain from an additional deployment of considerable combat forces permamently under its provisions and we've said more than once that an indefinite rotation is in no way different from permanent deployment."

    Along with it, Grushko said NATO's actions in Europe stood at variance with the provisions of the Founding Act even from a formal angle of view.

    "Construction of two bases of the European segment of the global antiballistic missile system is underway," he said. "The base in Romania has reached the phase of operation readiness and its transfer to NATO's command has been scheduled for May.'

    "Construction of a facility in Poland continues, too," Grushko said. "These bases already meet the criteria of strategic significance and are permanent."

    Arms control regime in Europe is dead

    According to the diplomat, the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE) has no links with reality because NATO countries are not ready to support its adaptation to new conditions. For that reason, the arms control regime is practically non-existent.

    "Since the CFE [Treaty - TASS] has lost all links with reality, it can be said that today the arms control regime in Europe is dead. That makes the security situation even more complicated. But it is the NATO countries’ choice," Grushko told Izvestia.

    He explained that the CFE regime had initially implied full exchange of information and a reliable inspection regime.

    "Early in the 1990s it became clear the treaty was no longer complying with new political realities. Negotiations on its adaptation got under way. Those efforts ended with the signing an Agreement on Adaptation of the CFE Treaty," Grushko went on to say.

    "That regime was more adapted to the new realities. For example, it envisaged concrete mechanisms for using political instruments in case the forces deployed exceed certain limits," he added.

    Grushko also said that Russia had ratified the Agreement on Adaptation of the CFE Treaty in 2004.

    "However, the NATO countries kept delaying its ratification under far-fetched pretexts. As a result, the agreement has never come into force and the arms control regime has been eroded," the Russian diplomat said.
    NOTE: A large majority of the Russian snap military exercises from 2014 to 2016 were never as required registered in advance and have to a degree always exceeded the numbers of participants covered in the agreement....OVER that Russia says nothing....

    HAS anyone told the Russians that it is 2016 not the 1990s????


    BTW:
    Today's Nezav.Gaz warns that "the latest spiral in the arms race" between Russia & West "may soon overtake cold war levels by speed/scale"

    Actually this time driven by the Russians not the US that is now playing catch up.....
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    Yesterday, situation in E. Ukraine furtherly escalated. Enemy used 122mm, 152mm artillery to shell UA positions – #ATO Spokesperson

    Pro-Russian attacks are on a 7-months high.
    Mounting casualties among Ukrainian troops.
    Germany demands election ...
    https://twitter.com/uaunderattacken/...35552768081921

    In Luhansk sector, militants breached ceasefire 4 times in Popasna district. Mortars, anti-aircraft guns, other weapons used – #ATO Spox

    Hostilities along entire contact line in Donetsk sector with hotspots in Zaytseve, Avdiyivka – #ATO Spokesperson

    In Luhanske enemy shelled ATO forces by IFV with 73mm artillery – #ATO Spokesperson

    In Mariupol sector, enemy opened fire at UA positions in Maryinka, Novotroitske, area Hnutove-Shyrokyne – #ATO Spokesperson

    Overall, 26 enemy attacks with half of them with heavy weapons registered in Mariupol sector over day – #ATO Spokesperson

    1 serviceman KIA among Ukrainian troops in the #warzone in E #Ukraine during the last 24h, and 8 WIA.Details on
    http://empr.media soon

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    Interesting that Russsia has not pushed back on the BILD report of their total Russian governmental agency control of their occupied zone

    No official denial of @BILD's #RussiaRulesDonbass report.
    Just desperate attempts by its media tools.

    https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/715825030047916032

    A solid indirect statement on their part that the leaked documents are accurate.

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    Russian shelling's and ground attacks are now ongoing for over 72 plus hours non stop....Russian slow stepped ground offensive is getting stronger.

    UAF is only returning fire when they have clear shots.....Russians are firing using the local civilians as human shields to prevent the UAF from returning fire on them.


    11:35 #Stepne @Darren_Aro Since 9am it is not calm in vicinity, but the wind distorts the direction of booms

    12:06 #Makiivka @PVB40 [fb] #Makiivka listens to heavy salvos

    12:07 #Horlivka [pro-RU source] @phoenix_dnr Just now there are not bad landings at #Zaytseve
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    Horse-trading is under way. Russian Investigative Comm Spox V Markin says #Savchenko swap possible if it's for 'good & honest' Russians.

    "Good and honest" might be if Russia finally fulfills a key portion of the Minsk 2 agreement...immediate return of all Ukrainian POWs and she was captured inside Ukraine and then taken to Russia which Russia has repeatedly stated did not happen.....

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    March 2016....
    Combat losses of Ukrainian Army ...
    Total: 19 KIA, 125 WIA

    https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/715838207145979905

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    Ukrainian Armed Forces has gone to full combat alert tonight on the Mariupol front line.......

    UAF near #Mariupol put on full combat alert due to militants' attacks yesterday.
    http://novosti.dn.ua/details/272254/

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    Another day, another video of heavy fighting around Avdiivka
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS1BIpAlnl0

    23:20 #Donetsk @rjpthjuljytwr [fb] #Motodrome: The north is heard heavily since 22:50 till now, in both directions

    23:30 #Makiivka @VasyaMakeevskiy Seldom salvos towards #Mineralne

    Not that intense as yday in Donetsk. Unusual things: #Pervomaysk heard gunnery, #Luhansk prob AA missile

    23:00 #Donetsk @LifeInDonetsk Firing
    23:03 #Avdiivka @tiamat007 #Opytne dir'n is heard or further to the east, grenade launchers


    Luhansk @l_vinchenso [vk] "Bright flying up line, then ike fireworks in silence, then blast
    22:40 #Luhansk @l_vinchenso [vk] the explosion was heard at #Mirnyi,#center,#Kambrod, #Hayovoho. #Lisotorhovyi- 'jet engine & boom then'

    AA missile fired??????


    @GeoVit72 It was ground-to-air [missile], probably AAS Osa or Strela

    22:05 #Donetsk #Kirovskyi ds @UKara4en #Trudovski direction still booms sporadically

    23:03 #Makiivka @VasyaMakeevskiy something strong 2 times towards #Mineralne-#Yasynuvata

    21:12 #Horlivka #Stroitel @ahab9889 Firing towards #Shyroka_Balka.
    21:46 Vasilek?
    21:48 a signal flare, like yellow

    20:56 #Marinka @666_mancer [vk] booms and small arms towards #Novomarinka
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    The "DNR" rebel army says 28 of its troops were killed in fighting the Ukrainian army during the last 4 weeks.
    - DAN News


    Russian tactic is that the loss figure is more accurate when it is 10X the reported numbers.......thus 280 is closer to the actual truth.

    NewsMap
    Heavy fighting as Ukrainian troops defend the frontline in #Avdeevka
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS1BIpAlnl0
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    WHY has Obama in almost eight years not seriously called out the clear Russian INF violations and still does not nor clearly stated that the Russians have developed their first strike use of tactical nuclear weapons and have exercised that doctrine repeatedly in the last two years....

    Obama blames Putin for slowing the progress of nuclear arms reduction — via @RFERL
    http://read.bi/22X9XkL
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    slon.ru/posts/66002
    @Stanovaya argues Putin is suffering Khorodkovsky’s fate, “caught” in corruption ubiquitous among Russia’s powerful.

    Will Ukraine and the West acknowledge the real occupation of the Donbas?: Quite a few discoveries that are pro...
    http://bit.ly/1PLMrui

    Russians plan provocations against Ukrainian forces, civilians in #Donbas on Apr 4-9: #Ukraine intel
    http://www.unian.info/war/1306803-ru...ine-intel.html

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    This week the Germany MSM outlet BILD released tightly held Russian documents depicting the extent of the Russian takeover of eastern Ukraine which now appears to be a full scale Russian annexation which flies in the face of Minsk 2 and the constant Russian statements they are fulfilling Minsk 2.

    Evidence that the article was highly accurate was and still is the complete Russian no response to the article and just a tad of counter Russian troll activity as they seemed to not understand just how to respond.

    Over the last day or two there has been indirect but direct confirmation of the article by some who are involved in the various Russian "Commissions".....

    DTEK employee A. Smirnov confirms commission existence, meeting time & place and dealing with coal exports.
    http://biz.nv.ua/publications/kogda-...sa-107388.html

    GAME OVER.
    Ukrainian DTEK employee A. Smirnov confirms presence in the Russian commission, governing #Donbass.


    Normally Russian info war would be all over this BILD article BUT it is strangely silent this time around......

    Nothing like getting called out by western media AND not a single comment from any western leader specifically Obama...why is that?????
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    Latitude 67N SIGINT ‎@Sigint67n
    RUAF VHF traffic in Baltic Sea. Consistent with transport (IL76/AN26) in/out Kaliningrad

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