Mass shooting(s) after Orlando (amended title)

**Bill Moore** · 06-12-2016

Bottom line is these attacks are inspired by ideology, not illegimate government. Time to put aside outdated ideas and describe the problem correctly, and then deal with that problem. Opportunity can emerge from tragedy, opportunity to relook and revise our current approach to CT.

**davidbfpo** · 06-12-2016

Via Twitter a news agency report ISIS have claimed responsibility for the attack (below).

Note another SME has tweeted:

There's NO official #ISIS claim for #Orlando. We have a report by Amaq News agency, close 2 IS, saying sources say it was IS fighter

**slapout9** · 06-12-2016

His ex-wife has reported that he became violent during their marriage because of his associations???????

**slapout9** · 06-12-2016

WFTV ch 9 local news in Orlando has video of Muslims teaching death to gays in local Mosques!

**Bill Moore** · 06-13-2016

Assuming this Muslim leader is legitimate, his road just got a lot tougher. Both links below reference Muslims in Orlando prior to these attacks in a relatively positive light. The property dispute appears to be little more than keeping residential property residential. I suspect the tone will change now, further dividing Americans. This is ultimately part of Al-Qaeda's and Islamic State's strategy, they know they are not strong enough to defeat a state in direct combat with their security forces, so they seek to conduct attacks in ways that turn different groups against one another. It doesn't matter if Shia versus Sunni, Muslim versus Christian, or whatever group against gays. It is these second order effects after the terrorist attacks that destroy countries by dividing them. We can't afford to let that happen.

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/musli...sson-/20245443

Muslim leaders invite Trump to Orlando mosque for lesson on Islam

Wajeeh Bajwa, president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community’s Orlando chapter, said Islam orders Muslims to be loyal to the country they live in.

"Originally, I'm from Pakistan,” Bajwa said. “But my loyalties are with America, because I'm an American now."

Orlando’s Baitul-Aafiyat Mosque hosted a blood drive Saturday afternoon, which was followed by a prayer vigil for the victims of the California massacre.

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/resid...road/157151636

Residents fight mosque plan on Windermere Road March 16

“This is still our little piece of paradise here,” she said, adding that her home is remote enough to keep her horse, Napoleon, in her back yard.

Any large facility would take away from what makes the area a great place to live, Maurer said.

The fact that it’s a mosque has nothing to do with it, she said.

**omarali50** · 06-13-2016

A nice tweet I saw today (From Jeffery Goldberg)

This needs to be reiterated: Orlando massacre can be about Islamism, access to guns, homophobia and mental illness, all at the same time

I do wish Obama had said something negative about Jihadism directly, if nothing else then as a tactical matter... He means well, but he is not helping Muslims, he is helping Trump and giving an opening to demagogues during what is an otherwise sane and measured response.

Tho come to think of it, a sane response should probably include real action against Raqqah. Discrediting the Islamic state may have a negative impact on wannabe jihadis at this time.
Though it may encourage others to attack.
I have to think this through clearly.