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    Default How school shootings catch on.

    One of the better articles I have read since the latest shooting and the author is Malcolm Gladwell; he does not refer to the latest shooting.

    He ends with:
    The problem is not that there is an endless supply of deeply disturbed young men who are willing to contemplate horrific acts. Itís worse. Itís that young men no longer need to be deeply disturbed to contemplate horrific acts.
    Link:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...s-of-violence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Now it does not help when the FBI get a citizen's call and appear to have dismissed it as a credible pointer.
    Twice, within four months. Those Agents who failed to do their duties (and embarrassed the Agency) should be revealed to the public.


    The F.B.I. received a tip last month from someone close to Nikolas Cruz that he owned a gun and had talked of committing a school shooting, the bureau revealed Friday, but it acknowledged that it had failed to investigate.
    The tipster, who called an F.B.I. hotline on Jan. 5, told the bureau that Mr. Cruz had a “desire to kill people, erratic behavior and disturbing social media posts,” the F.B.I. said.
    The information should have been assessed and forwarded to the Miami F.B.I. field office, the bureau said. But that never happened. On Wednesday, Mr. Cruz, 19, killed 17 students and teachers at his former high school in Parkland, Fla., law enforcement officials said.
    The tip about Mr. Cruz appeared to be the second in four months, after another person told the bureau about online comments from Mr. Cruz that he wanted to become “a professional school shooter.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/u...-shooting.html
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    For anyone inclined to call for more legislation, feel free to explain how that would help if the current laws aren't enforced.

    More damage control, after the bull has left the barn. From 12 FEB 18

    (CNN)Since an ex-US airman shot more than two dozen people in a Texas church in November, the US military has added more than 4,000 names to the nation's list of dishonorably discharged military personnel banned from owning firearms -- a sign of what has been a massive hole in the nation's gun buying background check system.
    http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/12/us/gun...nvs/index.html
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    Default Facts are Pesky Things

    [Props to the Agents who did the statistical collations]

    In 64 incidents (40.0%), the shooters committed suicide; 54 shooters did so at the scene of the crime.

    "Of the 160 incidents, at least 107 (66.9%) ended before police arrived and could engage the shooter, either because a citizen intervened, the shooter fled, or the shooter committed suicide or was killed by someone at the scene."

    In 21 incidents (13.1%), the situation ended after unarmed citizens safely and successfully restrained the shooter. In 2 of those incidents,24 3 off-duty law enforcement officers were present and assisted. ■■ Of note, 11 of the incidents involved unarmed principals, teachers, other school staff and students who confronted shooters to end the threat (9 of those shooters were students). ■ In 5 incidents (3.1%), the shooting ended after armed individuals who were not law enforcement personnel exchanged gunfire with the shooters. In these incidents, 3 shooters were killed, 1 was wounded, and 1 committed suicide. ■■ The individuals involved in these shootings included a citizen with a valid firearms permit and armed security guards at a church, an airline counter, a federally managed museum, and a school board meeting.25 ■ In 2 incidents (1.3%), 2 armed, off-duty police officers engaged the shooters, resulting in the death of the shooters. In 1 of those incidents, the off-duty officer assisted a responding officer to end the threat.26

    https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...000-2013-1.pdf

    40 incidents in 26 states:20 incidents in 2014; 20 incidents in 2015.
    231 casualties: 92 killed and 139 wounded (excluding the shooters).
    4 law enforcement officers killed and 10 wounded in 6 incidents.
    3 unarmed security guards wounded.

    6 incidents ended when citizens acted to end the threat.
    26 incidents ended with law enforcement at the scene.
    14 incidents ended with an exchange of gunfire between the 16 shooters and law enforcement.
    12 killed by police, one off-duty.
    3 committed suicide. 1 surrendered to law enforcement.
    42 shooters; 39 male 3 female.
    2 husband-and-wife teams.

    16 shooters committed suicide.
    14 shooters were killed by law enforcement.
    12 shooters were apprehended.

    https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/..._2014-2015.pdf
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    Default Seconds mattered: How BSO's response at Parkland went wrong in 11 minutes

    A detailed report from the Miami Herald on the shooting and what went wrong. It is not an easy read and the blame does not rest with the Schools Officer present.
    Link:http://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article209887469.html?
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    Default FBI Releases Study of Pre-Attack Behaviors of Active Shooters

    Captured via Twitter this 28 page report, mainly from their Behavioural Analysis Unit (BAU) and sub-titled:
    This report, covering active shooter incidents in the United States between 2000 and 2013, examines specific behaviors that may precede an attack and that might be useful in identifying, assessing, and managing those who may be on a pathway to violence.
    Link:https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...-2013.pdf/view

    It is the second part of a research programme, Part One was published in 2014, which had a different focus.
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