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    Default Brexit: demonising VS analysis

    When attempting to dull and overpower the senses, demonisers typically avoid hard issues and instead buttress their interests by using contrived targets and emotive language. But demonising is a poor substitute for analysis. That was clearly demonstrated by two recent items on the ASPI site.

    For clever demonising see
    http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/rise-democracy-europe/
    For rational analysis see
    http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/den...rexit-divorce/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Compost View Post
    When attempting to dull and overpower the senses, demonisers typically avoid hard issues and instead buttress their interests by using contrived targets and emotive language. But demonising is a poor substitute for analysis. That was clearly demonstrated by two recent items on the ASPI site.

    For clever demonising see
    http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/rise-democracy-europe/
    For rational analysis see
    http://www.aspistrategist.org.au/den...rexit-divorce/
    48% agree there should be another General Election to vote on EU plans (only 23% disagree).


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    Everyone for themselves...."little Europe"....

    Our current cover story: Everyone for themselves – Little Europe: The return of the past
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1100852.html

    This is @Freedland on blistering form. On just how despicable Boris is and what a disaster #Brexit will be.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...in-over-brexit

    The hints at Michael Gove's coming knifing of the Etonians can be found in this 2014 @FT profile.
    http://app.ft.com/cms/s/90d3f85a-3f7...71e8140b0.html

    How to Crash #Putin's #Brexit Party
    https://lnkd.in/eZr-Y2c
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    For all Ukraine's dysfunction, its civil society and elite have a better understanding of what EU negotiations entail than UK Tories do

    AND they are in the middle of a Russian war of aggression and has lost Crimea.....

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    British politics now has a big dose of Syriza-thinking towards negotiations - "respect our democratic mandate". That's not how it works

    Greece is a study in how EU states will hazard their own economic interest & beggar a nation to face down 'populism' https://twitter.com/duncanweldon/sta...73193055825921

    After #Brexit, NI would face an annual loss of c. €1 billion and a 3% decline in GDP, according to NI Assembly Enterprise Committee report.

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    Interesting note by @drjennings on the decline of "representative parliamentary democracy."
    https://sotonpolitics.org/2016/07/01...ary-democracy/

    THIS goes to my comments that the UK PM and Parliament parties has basically for 40 odds years ignored......"the rule of law, good governance and transparency"......

    WHILE claiming to be "a unique and the oldest democracy"...the question is THEN why not go back to "the so called ballot box" and ask the civil society what they want for leadership ...but simply changing out the "so called leaders" until 2020 is not democracy.....it is a "political coup" via so called "democracy"......driven by egos.....not the rule of law and good governance and in full transparency...not lies, lies and more lies used to misled a large segment of the UK civil society...

    What sort of arrogance dictates Irish & Danes can have 2nd referendums on EU but we British cannot. Irish & Danes knew they made a mistake.
    We Brits cannot figure out if we have actually made a mistake or not......as our house burns down around us.....

    Gove: "I could not be Prime Minister, I'm not equipped to be Prime Minister, I don't want to be Prime Minister."

    BUT WAIT...being PM gets a house, servants, airplane, chef and other benefits and an increase in salary......NOW I want to be PM.....

    AND best of all...with no election to worry about...SOLID job security until at least 2020...
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    This is the best explainer yet of why arguing "they'll back down - it's in their interests" is likely to be wrong https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...lf-immigration

    Imagining that Britain’s European partners will produce concessions to facilitate a U-turn is wishful thinking – the EU is too weak and too rattled by populist forces to be able to make that kind of manoeuvre without setting itself on a course to self-destruction. The EU will prefer to ensure its own survival as a project rather than risk suicide by handing Britain unprecedented exemptions from its founding principles, such as freedom of movement
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Everyone for themselves...."little Europe"....

    Our current cover story: Everyone for themselves – Little Europe: The return of the past
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1100852.html
    Reference the power struggle mentioned in the Spiegel article...

    Juncker faces his own exit as German Gov hints it could side with East European leaders who want EU commission president to go


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