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    The #EU will treat Britain like Greece. A superb post mortem by @mattholehouse in @Telegraph #Brexit http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...n-like-greece/

    PROBABLY one of the best takes on the EU views towards UK and the EU comin actions which will be brutal for UK that I have seen written in the last few days AND it does not bode well for UK citizens nor their economy nor they standing in the world of global politics of which they have actually thrown themselves out of....
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    BBC News - Corbyn office 'sabotaged' EU Remain campaign - sources
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36633238

    This does not surprise me in the least as he was first against the EU and then lukewarm for the EU BUT foremost he is a old line UK leftist who basically out of ideological reasons has always been against the EU....

    Many openly questioned his actions during the campaign but no one wanted to actually say then that he in fact was sabotaging his own words and actions....

    If one looks at the way Putin has been playing the right and left segments of the EU ever since 2006 with money and info warfare help...Putin has been driving Eurospectic groups from both political spectrums to achieve exactly what this vote achieved and it did not cost him a war and or a single bullet.....it was done legally and democratically.....the destruction of the EU as a viable economic and political entity

    Allowing Russia to fulfill it's dream of an free trade economic zone from Portugal to Russian Far East....under Russian influence.....openly stated also since 2006...only the EU stood in the way backed by the US.....
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    Immigration of the London City now starting to go in the other direction..was predicted to happen before the vote but "declared rubbish" by Boris "the terrible"....and UKIP.......as were all other expert statements called "rubbish"....by both.

    HSBC to move 1000 jobs to Paris when #UK will leave #EU #Brexit
    http://economie.hotnews.ro/stiri-fin...-europeana.htm


    The City is expected to lose over 100,000 banking and investment jobs over the next two years as will the City lose the right to buy and sell EU bonds and other EU financial products since they will not be in the EU......Frankfurt, Paris and NYC are rejoicing today.......

    Boris "the terrible"...also stated that this was "rubbish" and would never happen.....well it has started.....

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    .@NicolaSturgeon (Scotland) describes events in Westminster as "utter chaos, shambolic and frankly disgraceful"

    The petition for a second referendum on the EU, which now has 3m+ supporters, was set up by a Leave campaigner. http://news.sky.com/story/1717815/se...up-by-brexiter

    Britain's elites have been governing a country they wished they had rather than one they have.
    http://bit.ly/28SvAwQ

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    Cited in part:
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    HSBC to move 1000 jobs to Paris when #UK will leave #EU #Brexit
    http://economie.hotnews.ro/stiri-fin...-europeana.htm
    I have doubts that a Rumanian news site would have such a scoop.
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    I don't recall this theme being strongly mentioned in the campaign, although other words may have been used.

    So this commentary in The Guardian is noteworthy:https://www.theguardian.com/business...-globalisation

    A key passage:
    This was more than a protest against the career opportunities that never knock and the affordable homes that never get built. It was a protest against the economic model that has been in place for the past three decades.
    It is ironic that many of those who have campaigned against TTIP for example and globalisation are generally found on the Left, who mainly voted to Remain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I don't recall this theme being strongly mentioned in the campaign, although other words may have been used.

    So this commentary in The Guardian is noteworthy:https://www.theguardian.com/business...-globalisation

    A key passage:

    It is ironic that many of those who have campaigned against TTIP for example and globalisation are generally found on the Left, who mainly voted to Remain.
    David,

    Hopefully cooler heads will prevail. There will be a painful adjustment, not only in Europe, but globally; however, I think it is possible the UK will be better off in the long run. Other countries, to include France and Italy are reportedly considering leaving also. When it comes to economics, the experts have a poor track record. The EU by most accounts has weakened NATO, so from a collective security aspect little is lost there,

    Not the same, but most predicted the colonies would fail when we separated from England. The world doesn't stand still, it changes continuously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
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    I have doubts that a Rumanian news site would have such a scoop.
    But interestingly enough HSBC has not denied it which they would have if not true.....there have been other banking groups quietly stating before the vote that they would leave as the City will lose the right or "passport" as they call it to trade in EU funds, EU bonds and other EU issued financial products.

    That includes the City being the current center of Euro currency trades....that is the reason that Paris and Frankfurt has been wooing those banks....to move.

    This article goes to the heart of the coming loss of City finance jobs to either Paris and or Frankfurt....

    Comments from French & Dutch Officials suggest loss of passporting: IF true, very damaging for UK economy
    http://ner.sagepub.com/content/236/1/31.full.pdf

    Having ‘passporting’ rights to the Single Market and access to the financial infrastructure of the Eurozone is vital to hosting Euro financial markets.
    UK losses that passporting right when they leave the EU.....
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    Populist parties are popular until they are elected......then....the sky falls....

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    Germany's No 2 effectively quashing rumours of possibly negotiating "Brexit-lite": single market + some FOM control https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/...75243697668096

    German views both private and publicly among the local citizens and the German parties pay close attention.....

    "If you want the benefits then you must play the game"...meaning if you want schools fund them, if you want jobs then push you government for jobs, if you want job training push your government and presto they find the EU will find the funds.

    Example.....where I live which is in the rural edge of Berlin there is a main German Weather Service center (DWD) which has been here since the late 1880s and there is the old center with a lot of historical weather related pieces of equipment and historical documents .....the local community formed a committee approached the EU Rural Fund laid their plans out and got 75% of the estimated construction costs and first three years of operation in order for them to get going as a major weather museum.

    Presto....after the initial slow start....it has gained in popularity and is drawing visitors from all over including tourists outside Germany who are interested in weather and climate change and they are carrying themselves financially.

    Second example....a small specialized company dealing in the stripping of metal construction products prior to a specialized coating being applied.....which employs 25 locals and pushes a good deal of their products into exports... applied for and got 100% funding for the construction of the actual plant and 70% operational funding to carry them for three years until they got their feet on solid good. Now they are at 40 employees and are carrying themselves very well.

    The EU has been good at pushing investment and employment measures for rural development.

    So to hear from Leave types that it was about schools, hospitals and other local needed services WHY did not the government push the Eu for more aid in supporting the increasing immigrant stream??

    Jeremy Corbyn , the Labour leader, has said that areas that voted most strongly to leave in the EU referendum are “communities that have effectively been abandoned” by economic change and the austerity policies of Britain’s Conservative government.

    So why did the Leavers kill the golden goose instead of beating up their own government and why did they "blame" Brussels instead of Whitehall???
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