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    Azor.....heads up......

    WTO is bearable for goods but impossible for services which requires freedom of movement. 80% of UK exports are services

    BUT WAIT even Cameron ruled out the WTO tariffs on goods which would making them non competitive worldwide....

    Everyone is talking about doing deals with Canada, Australia etc....BUT WAIT they already have preferential trade agreements with EU which will cause UK a hard time to agree around.....

    Asked whether EU/UK trade on 3rd country (WTO) terms would damage EU economies too @MalmstromEU answered "yes, but the vote was very clear"
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    People follow populist parties until they are elected.....

    Perfect example of this is UKIP and Trump.........

    One of the major stumbling blocks in Donald Trump's ability to raise money from deep-pocket donors, other than his lethal combination of sloth and arrogance, has been his carrying as a "loan" to his campaign some $50 million. By carrying it as a loan rather than a contribution, Trump would be legally able to take the money other people give him in order to pay himself back. Many rich people are understandably reluctant to put their money, money which they intended to support Trump's campaign, into the gaping, insatiable maw that Donald Trump calls a pocket.

    Only a week ago, the Trump campaign made a huge announcement that he had converted that debt into a contribution. My colleague, Susan Wright, posted on the announcement and she speculated, as did most of the RedState contributors, that Trump was, in fact, lying. If he claimed to convert the debt to a contribution... which is literally as hard as checking off a single box on one FEC report... he could collect contributions leading up to the convention, pocket them before the next report, and then confront the GOP with a broke campaign that they had to fundraise for. In other words, we were speculating that this was the quintessential Trumpian con wrapped in a scam wrapped in a deception.

    Guess what?

    When Donald Trump said last Thursday he was forgiving over $45 million in personal loans he made to his campaign, the announcement drew plenty of coverage. Many even reported Trump's statement as if the deal was done.

    But it's not.

    A week later, NBC News has learned the FEC has posted no record of Trump converting his loans to donations. The Trump Campaign has also declined requests to share the legal paperwork required to execute the transaction, though they suggest it has been submitted.

    In his most recent FEC filing, which posted June 20, Trump treated all his spending on the campaign as loans.

    An FEC staff member tells NBC News there is no new filing changing Trump's loans. The FEC's candidate tracking page, which posts filings, does not show new paperwork from Trump changing his loans.

    Ultimately, if Trump declines to release any proof for claiming he forgave the loans, the rubber will hit the road on July 20, the next FEC filing deadline.

    When does the GOP convention kick off? July 18. By the time the FEC report is released, Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee.

    This is no different that the way Trump acted in regards to his "contribution" to veterans charities, or charities in general. He claims to give and doesn't follow through with action unless, as in the case of the veterans fundraising scam, he is caught and shamed into doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor.......here is the fallacy in thinking of many in the UK and that includes UKIP and the two major parties.

    The Article 50 trigger states that once it is triggered it must be completed inside two years....this plan is mainly how the UK will detangle itself, legally and financially from the EU and how it envisions going forward with the EU.

    Then the EU will approve or disapproved whatever plan the UK presents to stay in the single market....if it wants to but then they will state the costs as well to stay associated.

    THIS is to happen all inside a maximum of two years .......

    Then the EU will approve whatever comes out of the talks...once approved again inside the two years....all ties are cut immediately to the UK...end of story.

    All the Leavers had calculated that EU funding would still flow until all laws, finances and trade were worked out which will take the UK up to an estimated 15 years to finally get under control.....

    Nope......once the plan is approved and that must be done inside two years...UK is on it own and nothing further flows from the EU that is exactly why the Leavers are trying to drag out triggering Article 50...

    Interesting that they never said that during the referendum campaign....ever wonder why?????
    Well sadly this confirms what I have been trying some to get to understand....and what Cameron did not fully understand ....once 50 is triggered the plan that UK lays in front of the EU Commission is how they are going exit and how they envision going forward then the EU Commission 27 votes to approve and or disapprove....

    If approved then UK is out on the date they determined in their plan but it has to be inside the defined two years......the detangling of UK laws and finance regulations is the responsibility of UK..and that took the UK 40 years to complete......which is what the Leavers wanted ...control our own government and parliament.....

    THEN once UK is completely out then UK and EU start negotiations on whatever the UK lays out.....the UK leaders seem to think that the new plan will be negotiated inside the two year period.....absolutely not is the EU statement.......

    EU commissioner @MalmstromEU tells @BBCNewsnight "first you exit then you negotiate" on trade deal. Note: that has taken Canada 6 yrs so far

    BIG: so @MalmstromEU tells me EU/UK trade talks won't start until Art50 exit complete then UK will trade on WTO terms until a deal is done
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...you cannot make this up any more...the core driver on the Conservative side to Leave was BoJo....AND then realizing he was to going into history as the one triggering Article 50....and delivering economic pain to UK.... simply drops out...what the heck is this as an example of UK democracy...

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...downing-street

    Mustn't forget amid the Gove/Johnson circus that the real scrutiny and focus of attention should be on Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre.

    Our nation's rulers (Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre) have just announced the nomination for their Prime Minister: it's Michael Gove.

    On Monday @rupertmurdoch said Gove "most principled and most able” candidate & "could run a fine government”. Three days later he's running
    BUT WAIT.........

    I'm told Boris' widely criticized @Telegraph column - was SUB EDITED by Michael Gove who suggested changes - and Boris put them in

    SO was he simply setup by Gove??????

    Appears so......

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    Brexit humour springs out from fertile ground and once again stranger then fiction. I mean Boris running away for the time being by not running for PM, Gove's mutiny after defection, spurred on by his wife by email leaked, Farage and company wiping out the webpage to hide their lies clearly shown in archieved images, Labour self-destructing itself after an all-to clever lukewarm campaign fearing their Scottish referendum ghosts, SNP trying as usual to inflict more economic harm on Scotland in midst of an Oil crash, English citiziens rushing to get Irish passports, Welsh voting them out of investments but at once begging thy neighbour, Englands rapid Post-Brexit European Exit against Iceland, commented with grand arrogance by a Mc, a PM possibly breaking an old Union over one MP by losing to such a motley crew that it dissolved right after the act, no plan for the day after....

    I mean you really can't make this stuff up, so much linkable stuff pure comedy gold

    P.S: Tragic McClear. Brilliant stuff, British Humour at it's finest.
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    Azor.....heads up.....remember currency traders has stated bottom of the BP is 1.22 to USD.

    British pound dropping like a stone against the dollar as Carney speaks
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    EU members can't negotiate their own trade deals - a rule that applies to UK during Article 50 process

    So UK out of the EU WITH no access to the single market.....how strange is this....???
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    So much for taking back control - Boris Johnson had no plan and he's unleashed anarchy.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a7111416.html

    "He's like a General that led his army to the sound of guns & at the sight of the battlefield abandoned the field."
    http://bbc.in/298NNnn

    Heseltine on Boris: "He's ripped the party apart. He's created the greatest constitutional crisis in modern times"
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...you send [sic] an unusual amount of time trying to discredit my comments on the financial disaster about to hit the UK and even argue well goin [sic] another will balance it all out in the end..exactly what Leave has arued [sic] repeatedly for years.
    Because you spend an inordinate amount of time attempting to discredit the entire Leave campaign...If Brexit proves to be an unmitigated disaster for the UK and the EU successfully restructures its supply chains, develops financial hubs in Frankfurt and Paris, and finds new export markets, then is Brexit not to the EU’s advantage? In addition, according to you and others, the British have played an obstructionist role in the EU, have secured unreasonable opt-outs or special treatment and have frequently disrupted EU cohesion.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The key point you missed is that the FTSE 100 fell a total of 9% and the 250 fell over 14% so they have a long long way to go to even recover to their original pricing values and may never recovery.
    Are you sure?

    • The FTSE 100 closed at 6,338.10 points on June 23. It closed at 6,504.33 on June 30. Total gain/loss = 2.62%
    • The FTSE 250 closed at 17,333.51 points on June 23. It closed at 16,271.07 on June 30. Total gain/loss = -6.13%


    Both indices have recovered faster this week than from their downturns in January and February.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    ask yourself...no racism in the UK...come on think....
    When have I said that there is no racism in the UK? It is disappointing to see you attempt to portray a democratic decision as merely racist or Russian-inspired or the result of political infighting (Conservatives) with your only proof being soundbites from Remain campaigners who want to change the outcome of the referendum.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Secondly, it is the GPB that needs to be watched....it has never traded under 1.40 for more than one day in it's entire history....it tanked to 1.31 and has only climbed TWO CENTS....not much of a recovery is it????
    I assume that you are referring to the GBP/USD pairing? Certainly it’s at lower levels then during the 2008-2009 crisis, but then again the USD is riding high against almost all currencies due to its liquidity, rising US rates, US economic growth and problems with the Euro as a viable alternative. The GBP is trading higher against the Euro than most of 2010-2014 and higher against the Yen than from 2010-2012.

    Interestingly, the UK exports more to the US than it imports...

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    ...even expat Turkish citizens can vote in their national elections and the EU even helped Turkey setup polling stations in a large number of communities.....THAT my friend is real democracy hard at work…
    When Turks looked set to curtail AKP power and vote in the HDP, “Daesh” conveniently set off suicide bombs in Turkey. Real democracy indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    …this is from the Economist Intelligence Unit......
    Interesting predictions considering that Article 50 has yet to be triggered and the UK will remain in the EU for 2 years.

    In conclusion, you have yet to acknowledge my points:

    1. No one can predict how this will unfold in the long-term
    2. The UK pays more for the EU than it receives in EU spending (trend increasing)
    3. The UK imports more from the EU than it exports (trend increasing)
    4. The “free movement of labor” principle in Schengen and EFTA is not the same as the free movement of the unemployed in the EU
    5. The EFTA has opt-outs (Schengen, EFTA Court) and can be much less expensive than EU membership
    6. Other countries, including Switzerland, Israel and Canada have concluded FTAs with the EU
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    S&P cut its EU rating to AA from AA+, the same rating for the UK...

    http://mobile.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSKCN0ZG2LS

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    Azor....
    Then you have not paid much attention to the UK actions inside the EU since they actually joined the EU....most of all the EU Commissioners at one time or another have openly complained that with every major economic/political decision UK wanted their own version. On major decisions UK always wants it's versions and if not achieved then they defer and reject.

    Notice the last reform run made by Cameron....they actually conceded many points to the UK in order to give him something to take back for Brexit..and I seriously doubt you yourself can even recite those reform adjustments...or can you?

    My friend it is not only me.

    All increases on both FTSEs per traders has not been the average off the street investor/buyer but major hedge funds buying up UK assets at an under priced cost....that my friend is not economic recovery BUT the selling of UK assets to largely outside UK hedge funds....check the hedge funds and you will notice ME/Chinese and US....

    You honestly are trying to sell me the London Bridge are you not.....the UKIP message was what again.....the Tory Leave messaging was again centered on what and the lukewarm undertoned JC messaging had no racist undertones...

    Then my friend you do not live in the UK.....

    The narratives were as follows:
    1. Illegal immigrants driving down our wages/salaries.....LARGELY disproved by FT statistics since 2007
    2. Uncontrolled legal and illegal immigration
    3. Take back under control our own abilities to govern....WHICH was never taken from the UK the last time I checked
    4. we are been ruled and controlled by a supranational empire we have no control over
    5. we can make better trade deals than the EU
    6. FORGOT this one...Turkey is going to join the EU and flood us with Turkish poor and unemployed
    7. AND this famous one...we can replace all funding loses by using the EU fees we pay...THAT one was equally disproved RAPIDLY within 24 hours by even UKIP
    8. we can on and on

    MISS anything.....

    AND the reality was Tories in chaos, Labour is now officially splitting itself apart and UKIP the far right party is becoming close to being the official second strongest UK party...

    The GBP is still at the lowest all time record point in it's life time and the so called gains it made were wiped out by the Carey speech yesterday.

    FACT historically the BP has never traded under 1.40 for longer than 12 hours and now we are what say SIX days breaking all previously known records and that is not an INDICATOR with major currency trades stating final level 1.22 and even the ECB in some of their models points to this.

    THEN explain just why the UK is running for the last quarter a major import/export deficient of 36B GBPs

    Secondly, the UK is mainly a major importer from the EU of virtually all of it's agricultural products and those goods that are exported from the EU to UK are for final production of products and are simply part of the on time delivery supply chain

    Have you honestly any idea just how long it takes to negotiate a trade deal ...all the while the UK will e governed by the WTO rules which will in effect kill UK trade as you cannot even compete with those rates. Those that have no for of any form of FTAs join as quickly as they can SOME kind of FTA zone to avoid WTO.

    We see chatter coming from the Leave side of a Canadian model...well that "Canadian model" with the EU is in now the SIXTH year of talks and still no deal.......

    I have never said Turkey is a democracy...far from it....and you are really hung up on Turkey in many of your comments as where many from Leave...
    BUT here is something that you did not hear when Turkey was used as an argument by say UKIP which is/was a major Leave driver......

    IT takes a nation entering the EU to complete a 36 step process and there is a check by the EU on everyone of those 36 blocks... Turkey has not completed more than today 12...they are at least 15 YEARS away from joining the EU. If they really want to as they are actually comfortable with their own Trade Association Agreement.

    Predictions...who are you actually kidding....the 50 trigger will go into effect once the Tories have finally figured out who will lead them....AND what about UK democracy...the PARTY chooses who will lead you based on NOT elections but by again WHO....not the electorate....until there are snap elections and or 2020.....did you vote for the new incoming Tory government NO you did not.

    This is just not speculation....the UK thought that it could drag out the 50 trigger until all points were defined thus living off of the UK funding until sometime in say 10-15 years when they finally changed back to UK laws and financial/trade regulations.

    AND during that time negotiate some kind of association deal.....

    WELL that is never going to happen WHY;
    1.there is a EU regulation/law forbidding even EU members to conclude separate trade deals with the overall EU UNTIL they leave....
    2. the two year timeframe for 50 is designed to tell the EU just how UK is going to leave and which steps and time tables they will be using to separate 40 years of common laws and financial/trade agreements nothin more and nothin less AND what compensation if any flows back to UK to assist in this devilment process and WHAT flows back to the UK as damages for forcing the EU to rewrite their laws and regulations.

    AND there will be damage claims calculated by the EU.....as now the 27 will present the UK a possible list of damages for their efforts as well.

    AS does it always happen in all divorce proceedings there are two sides to the same story and the UK has apparently totally forgotten that in their rush to Leave....


    1. YES you can in fact predict and the EU has been not so ungentle in trying to show the UK this. THE financial fallout is what cannot be predicted....BUT if you paid attention to the Carey speech yesterday there is going to strong fallout on any model used....
    2. UK pays more than it receives but....largely disproven by Economist and FT and even the English Central Bank
    3. the UK imports more than it exports from YES...previously answered BUT this is critical for you as apparently you will be paying far more for your food which comes from the EU and is factored by the price of the GBP which has fallen strongly against the Euro thus driving up you overall cost of living and driving up inflation WHICH is what the ECB wants BECAUSE UK has basically been in a deflationary phase and not moving out of that
    4. Not so sure you understand what is the term "free movement of labor" and that has caused so much confusion in UK..
    READ closely the Four Freedoms I posted for you and you basically ignored...
    You are as a worker allowed to look for work in other EU nations as labor is a commodity as Marx once stated....that commodity if needed in say Spain and you are in Finland then you can contact Spain and see if they are interested..you then work out a contract and off you go...BUT your argument is for the unemployed...if you are unemployed you do get benefits in your country depending on their laws/regulations and if they are low then many take off for the EU promise land and attempt to find something in another member state.

    BUT this is what you do not get....even if unemployed and you move IT DOES not get you social benefits in another country as this has been fought and defeated inside the ECJ with the recent ruling that you as an unemployed in an new country still have to fulfill the requirements of that country in order to receive social benefits.......AND those countries pushing the EU to allow social benefits to be paid without requirements basically conceded to the ECJ.....there is though an ongoing debate about how long the unemployed person has to pay into the new system...they are shooting for a full year of paying into the social system via taxes before on can claim benefits BUT as always within the EU those benefits are low since one has not paid long into them...

    WHERE was that discussed in UK by any party???? Nowhere....

    5. fees say from EFTA being lower...YES they are but the return benefits NEVER come close to what is received back from the EU....the EFTA does not have say a EU Rural/Low Income Development Fund that the UK has been using extensively since joining AND now you are awakening to the fact THAT even the UK government cannot replace them....
    AND ..CHECK the tariff structures of the EFTA vs EU single market...actually are higher that is why the EFTA tied itself via trade agreements to the EU so when they deal with the EU it is virtually ZERO vs when they deal with other non EU nations.

    6. you are again wrong...Canada is still negotiating their FTA with the EU AND that after SIX years....ALSO check just how long it took Israel and the Swiss to reach their deals...years not months....

    Your overall problem as it was with many Leave voters is you voted with emotion about supposed/alleged problems and or fears driven largely by the Leave groups and not countered by rational facts of the EU and how it functions by the Remain groups....

    BUT this is my complaint about all your comments....the Leavers evidently were in fact complaining bitterly about NOT the EU BUT about the long term effects of "globalization" on UK over the last 40 years or so NOT addressed by the major UK parties when in government.

    THAT my friend is "poor governance" which is not a problem of the EU but of the Brits....

    WHY did they not take their vengeance out at that ballot box SAY TEN years ago....utter silence.

    NOW explain that????

    ENOUGH answers....??

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    Azor...two things to think about...

    1. that so called real UK auto industry was built on EU/international investment premises that they would be actually in the EU...that dictated construction funds and investment funds usually calculated on a 10 year run. THEN what they produce can be exported internally or externally all under virtually no tariffs.....IF inside the EU.

    NOW that the UK in two years is not inside the EU thus unable to guarantee the same tariffs rates even if EFTA or WTO..where will then these same multinationals go......simply across the Channel with both investments and plants....

    It will take UK up to in a good scenario about 15 years to reshuffle the EU business laws back to good ole UK business laws and you know as I do business simply hates uncertainty.....

    2. explain to me again just how is it possible that this EU beating down on EU members with all the Leave arguments about government controls and business red tape....HOW is it possible for Germany who has high average salary rates compared to the rest of EU, has a high really high EU fee, who has guaranteed a majority of the Greek bailout funds and has 80B Euros of their own funds directly tied to whether Greece makes it and NOW has 1.2M extra refugees and has thousands of open and unfilled napprenticeship training positions and hundreds of job positions currently unfilled .....AND HAS allowed full freedom of movement and has thousands of eastern EU citizens living and working inside Germany.......

    HOW is it that they are running with relatively low unemployment, have far fewer poor than the UK and are running a massive export surplus even with a high salary production costs and are now supporting a massive alternative energy build out inside Greece.....and the tax revenue is blowing up all estimates even made by the German Finance Ministry....

    How is that possible when being beaten into the ground by an over controlling EU and massive EU red tape????
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    Michael Gove promises just £100m for NHS, but THAT bus suggested it would be more
    http://huff.to/29wXUC3

    Gove now explaining with a straight face that £350 million was the "gross sum" UK sends to the EU every week so cant spend all that on NHS

    After Brexit, it may be a good time to invest in scotch and cigarettes
    http://cnnmon.ie/29dwJ0V

    What a complete farce as he knows he must trigger 50 in order to start any kind of talks as the EU Commission has strict orders to not talk until they see Article 50.....SO is in fact Gove BACKING away from Leaving....APPEARS so.

    Brexit live: Michael Gove says unlikely that article 50 will be invoked this year

    http://trib.al/lZPvRml

    YET he ran on a campaign pledge to LEAVE...and he knows it...so why the sudden hesitation?????

    Gove says will only trigger article 50 after extensive preliminary talks. Not this calendar year. But EU talks not currently on offer.

    The EU has explicitly stated...no talks until Article 50 is triggered and Gove knows this already....

    So Gove just wants to keep paying EU fees which he based for the last year or so......

    AND here comes the Leave reality...raised taxes and cut social services......

    Financial Times
    ✔ @FinancialTimes George Osborne abandons balanced budget rule

    http://on.ft.com/29fVefM

    Gove stressing his "conviction". On Wednesday he believed with conviction Boris Johnson should be PM. On Thursday he didn't.

    Didn't say Brexit no role. But $9tn of negatively yielding sovereign debt in the world. Fall in UK yields in trend.
    https://twitter.com/WilfredFrost/sta...95894120624129
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    Is there actually in the UK so called "democracy"...."the rule of law, transparency and good governance"...not really.

    For 40 odd years the effects of globalization was largely ignored by all UK political parties and then used to drive UK out of the EU.....

    The ballot was used to force a constitutional change but not the required 2/3rds rule if a change was actually to be a constitutional one....

    NOW there is a complete change in the leadership of the ruling party and YET the voting public is not asked to verify that change nor what they claim they are going to talk to the EU about WHEN the EU is not talking until Article 50....let's not even talk about Labour.....

    ALL without public participation via the ballot box....as to what they think.

    So with a non binding referendum and that is what the Brexit vote was we have a complete coup at the top of the Tory Party and the electorate has no say......as to who is to lead the next four years....????

    So apparently for the UK it does not have the rule of law, transparency and good governance.....

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    Is there an exit from Brexit? Are we the Former United Kingdom (FUK)? My Interim take:
    http://bit.ly/299iCcM

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    It is just not the Tories that have messed up...Labor is not much better these days.......

    Jewish group makes formal complaint to Labour after Jeremy Corbyn compared Israel to ISIS
    http://read.bi/29l3yIz

    BREAKING: Jewish Human Rights Watch make formal complaint to Labour party about the "conduct" of Jeremy Corbyn.
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    So the undertone is if we do not get this then we will leave...quite apparent.....

    AFP news agency
    ✔ @AFP #BREAKING EasyJet demands EU flights pledge after Brexit

    Now the reality is sinking in for the entire UK business community that has dealings with the EU...either in the single market or out..there is no other way forward......EFTA or the non existing CFTA or WTO will get them the preferences they currently enjoy.....

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    An Albanian tells me he's going back to Albania. "Because of Brexit?" I ask in my most unctuous liberal manner. 'No' he answers. 'Weather.'

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    Elegantly devastating @sarahlyall portrait of Boris Johnson.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/wo...e-iphone-share

    UK showing "clear signs" of shock after #Brexit vote, chancellor @George_Osborne says
    http://bbc.in/29brMnF

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    Sound similar to the UK......5M unemployed and not enough adequately educated and or trained to fill the empty positions in Spain......that is why "free movement" exists....


    Spanish headhunter Samuel Pimentel just can’t find the candidates.

    After a frustrating search for specialist consultants for a client, he’s given up and is casting his net elsewhere.


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/marke...cid=spartandhp

    “We were looking for people for two months,” Pimentel, a partner at Ackermann Beaumont Group for Spain and Latin America, said in a telephone interview. “We managed to find one in Spain. We turned to Argentina for others.”

    Pimentel’s experience reflects a bizarre feature of the Spanish labor market that is hampering the country’s efforts to repair the damage from the economic crisis. Even with close to 5 million people out of work, the next prime minister will face labor shortages with employers struggle to find the staff they need.

    “It’s a paradox,” said Valentin Bote, head of research in Spain at Randstad, a recruitment agency. “The unemployment rate is too high. Yet we’re seeing some tension in the labor market because unemployed people don’t have the skills employers demand.”

    From software developers and mathematical modelers to geriatric nurses and care workers, a mismatch in qualifications means companies are struggling to fill posts, even though the unemployment rate at 20.4 percent is the second-highest in Europe. Randstad estimates that Spanish companies may struggle to fill almost 2 million posts through 2020.

    continued....
    Americans with some higher education have taken almost every job created in the recovery
    http://bloom.bg/295peuj

    OSW Warsaw ThinkTank @OSW_eng
    The Russian elite expects #Brexit to be a breakthrough moment in the process of the erosion of the EU
    http://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/...ating-benefits
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    So the undertone is if we do not get this then we will leave...quite apparent.....

    AFP news agency
    ✔ @AFP #BREAKING EasyJet demands EU flights pledge after Brexit

    Now the reality is sinking in for the entire UK business community that has dealings with the EU...either in the single market or out..there is no other way forward......EFTA or the non existing CFTA or WTO will get them the preferences they currently enjoy.....
    Last comments out of Easy Jet.....they will now be leaving the UK...probably to either Ireland and or Germany.

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