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    Immigration of the London City now starting to go in the other direction..was predicted to happen before the vote but "declared rubbish" by Boris "the terrible"....and UKIP.......as were all other expert statements called "rubbish"....by both.

    HSBC to move 1000 jobs to Paris when #UK will leave #EU #Brexit
    http://economie.hotnews.ro/stiri-fin...-europeana.htm


    The City is expected to lose over 100,000 banking and investment jobs over the next two years as will the City lose the right to buy and sell EU bonds and other EU financial products since they will not be in the EU......Frankfurt, Paris and NYC are rejoicing today.......

    Boris "the terrible"...also stated that this was "rubbish" and would never happen.....well it has started.....

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    .@NicolaSturgeon (Scotland) describes events in Westminster as "utter chaos, shambolic and frankly disgraceful"

    The petition for a second referendum on the EU, which now has 3m+ supporters, was set up by a Leave campaigner. http://news.sky.com/story/1717815/se...up-by-brexiter

    Britain's elites have been governing a country they wished they had rather than one they have.
    http://bit.ly/28SvAwQ

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    Cited in part:
    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    HSBC to move 1000 jobs to Paris when #UK will leave #EU #Brexit
    http://economie.hotnews.ro/stiri-fin...-europeana.htm
    I have doubts that a Rumanian news site would have such a scoop.
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    I don't recall this theme being strongly mentioned in the campaign, although other words may have been used.

    So this commentary in The Guardian is noteworthy:https://www.theguardian.com/business...-globalisation

    A key passage:
    This was more than a protest against the career opportunities that never knock and the affordable homes that never get built. It was a protest against the economic model that has been in place for the past three decades.
    It is ironic that many of those who have campaigned against TTIP for example and globalisation are generally found on the Left, who mainly voted to Remain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Cited in part:

    I have doubts that a Rumanian news site would have such a scoop.
    But interestingly enough HSBC has not denied it which they would have if not true.....there have been other banking groups quietly stating before the vote that they would leave as the City will lose the right or "passport" as they call it to trade in EU funds, EU bonds and other EU issued financial products.

    That includes the City being the current center of Euro currency trades....that is the reason that Paris and Frankfurt has been wooing those banks....to move.

    This article goes to the heart of the coming loss of City finance jobs to either Paris and or Frankfurt....

    Comments from French & Dutch Officials suggest loss of passporting: IF true, very damaging for UK economy
    http://ner.sagepub.com/content/236/1/31.full.pdf

    Having ‘passporting’ rights to the Single Market and access to the financial infrastructure of the Eurozone is vital to hosting Euro financial markets.
    UK losses that passporting right when they leave the EU.....
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    Populist parties are popular until they are elected......then....the sky falls....

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    Germany's No 2 effectively quashing rumours of possibly negotiating "Brexit-lite": single market + some FOM control https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/...75243697668096

    German views both private and publicly among the local citizens and the German parties pay close attention.....

    "If you want the benefits then you must play the game"...meaning if you want schools fund them, if you want jobs then push you government for jobs, if you want job training push your government and presto they find the EU will find the funds.

    Example.....where I live which is in the rural edge of Berlin there is a main German Weather Service center (DWD) which has been here since the late 1880s and there is the old center with a lot of historical weather related pieces of equipment and historical documents .....the local community formed a committee approached the EU Rural Fund laid their plans out and got 75% of the estimated construction costs and first three years of operation in order for them to get going as a major weather museum.

    Presto....after the initial slow start....it has gained in popularity and is drawing visitors from all over including tourists outside Germany who are interested in weather and climate change and they are carrying themselves financially.

    Second example....a small specialized company dealing in the stripping of metal construction products prior to a specialized coating being applied.....which employs 25 locals and pushes a good deal of their products into exports... applied for and got 100% funding for the construction of the actual plant and 70% operational funding to carry them for three years until they got their feet on solid good. Now they are at 40 employees and are carrying themselves very well.

    The EU has been good at pushing investment and employment measures for rural development.

    So to hear from Leave types that it was about schools, hospitals and other local needed services WHY did not the government push the Eu for more aid in supporting the increasing immigrant stream??

    Jeremy Corbyn , the Labour leader, has said that areas that voted most strongly to leave in the EU referendum are “communities that have effectively been abandoned” by economic change and the austerity policies of Britain’s Conservative government.

    So why did the Leavers kill the golden goose instead of beating up their own government and why did they "blame" Brussels instead of Whitehall???
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    "Game over" for Boris "the terrible" and those on the Leave side that felt with this mandate they could go back to the EU and renegotiate what they felt Cameron had failed to achieve and then they could have come back and back off of Article 50....

    European Union will not make Britain any fresh offers to keep it in the bloc, German Vice Chancellor Sigmar Gabriel says - Reuters

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    S&P confirms to the FT that UK will lose its final AAA credit rating.

    We calculated this would cost the country about £4bn, (before #BlackFriday), in extra interest payments on our debt.

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    EU Mythbusters
    ✔ @EUvsDisinfo Disinformation is when a poll can only lead to one outcome. Read more in the DisinfoDigest:
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    "Endless complications—chaos, in other words—lie ahead."
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    EU official: NO negotiations on future status of UK before notification of article 50 is sent to Brussels.

    EU official: Article 50 can be triggered by a letter to EU Council. Or by a formal oral statement at Council in presence of 27 other leaders

    EU official: 27 other member states understand level of political crisis in UK - so they can wait for a while for article 50.

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    Humor out of the UK.......

    Asked cat for his actual opinion on EU & he thinks we should repeatedly ask to leave, then when the door opens he just sits there & stares at it

    But as always...humor has some reality......does it not??

    “It’s not the responsibility of Leave to have a plan for what happens now. There is no plan” says Leave spokesman.

    Kind of reminds me of this.....

    "When one with honeyed words but evil mind persuades the mob, great woes befall the state." –Euripides
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    KREMLIN's WARFARE TOOLS: #Putin's apologist @SeumasMilne behind "deliberate sabotage" of EU Remain campaign in Brit http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36633238

    And today, some of the most senior figures in the Labour Party are trying to push their leader out too. There have been concerns about Jeremy Corbyn's performance for months and months. But it was his role, or lack of role, in the campaign to keep the UK in the EU, and his sacking of Hilary Benn in the middle of the night, that has given members of the shadow cabinet the final reasons to quit. Several have already gone; as many as half will be gone by the end of the day, I understand.

    And documents passed to the BBC suggest Jeremy Corbyn's office sought to delay and water down the Labour Remain campaign. Sources suggest that they are evidence of "deliberate sabotage".

    One email from the leader's office suggests that Mr Corbyn's director of strategy and communications, Seumas Milne, was behind Mr Corbyn's reluctance to take a prominent role in Labour's campaign to keep the UK in the EU. One email, discussing one of the leader's speeches, said it was because of the "hand of Seumas. If he can't kill it, he will water it down so much to hope nobody notices it".

    A series of messages dating back to December seen by the BBC shows correspondence between the party leader's office, the Labour Remain campaign and Labour HQ, discussing the European campaign. It shows how a sentence talking about immigration was removed on one occasion and how Mr Milne refused to sign off a letter signed by 200 MPs after it had already been approved.

    The documents show concern in Labour HQ and the Labour Remain campaign about Mr Corbyn's commitment to the campaign - one email says: "What is going on here?" Another email from Labour Remain sources to the leader's office complains "there is no EU content here - we agreed to have Europe content in it". Sources say they show the leader's office was reluctant to give full support to the EU campaign and how difficult it was to get Mr Corbyn to take a prominent role.

    Mr Corbyn has insisted publicly that he campaigned hard to keep the country in the EU and that he made a number of speeches around the country, and attended many campaigning events. But many shadow cabinet ministers believe his performance in the campaign has shown that he is simply not capable of leading the party. One senior figure told me: "People have just had enough and are embarrassed to be part of it." Jeremy Corbyn's team are adamant that he will stand again for the leadership, and they believe the party's members would back him again.

    He has had persuasive and vehement backing from the party's members who he energised last summer. But as the Labour Party reels from Thursday's result, it is not clear that support will be as solid as it was. MPs report that some of their members are contacting them to say they've changed their minds about Mr Corbyn. We'll see. It's possible that within days, both of our two main political parties will be looking for a new leader.

    A spokesman for the Labour party said: "The leaks of these emails within the Labour Party are self-evidently politically motivated. This is the action of people who want to de-stabilise the leadership by attempting to demonstrate negative activity in the leader's office.

    "The leaks themselves show no such thing, simply demonstrating the views of those whose emails are quoted.

    "On the process of letter writing, of course it is normal practice in politics that drafts are amended. Any communications in the name of the Leader of the Labour Party are authorised by the leader's communications team and ultimately by the leader himself .

    "Both Jeremy and his team worked hard to deliver his message of remain and reform. Given that the Labour Party was the only party that delivered a majority vote for the remain campaign among its own supporters, the criticisms of Jeremy Corbyn make little sense."
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    Channel 4 News
    ✔ @Channel4News Scenes of anger and hatred on Britain's streets after Brexit.
    Police are investigating multiple hate crime reports.

    Mini Huang @minyingh
    In the aftermath of #Brexit, neighbours we've never spoken to before confront us with, "Do you even speak English?"

    In a year half of these jobs will have gone to other countries, where foreigners are not assaulted in the streets.
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    Russian Brexit info warfare hard at work.....

    When asked if Brexit is beginning of end of the EU, Juncker said ‘No’. But Russian TV claims “he refused to answer" & "ran away" from media

    Putin's chief propagandist Dmitri Kiselev is cheering Brexit as beginning of the dissolution of the EU. https://twitter.com/BBCSteveR/status/747131537326546944

    BUT WAIT.......
    BBC: #Soros warns of EU disintegration

    http://uatoday.tv/politics/bbc-soros...on-679930.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    I don't recall this theme being strongly mentioned in the campaign, although other words may have been used.

    So this commentary in The Guardian is noteworthy:https://www.theguardian.com/business...-globalisation

    A key passage:

    It is ironic that many of those who have campaigned against TTIP for example and globalisation are generally found on the Left, who mainly voted to Remain.
    David,

    Hopefully cooler heads will prevail. There will be a painful adjustment, not only in Europe, but globally; however, I think it is possible the UK will be better off in the long run. Other countries, to include France and Italy are reportedly considering leaving also. When it comes to economics, the experts have a poor track record. The EU by most accounts has weakened NATO, so from a collective security aspect little is lost there,

    Not the same, but most predicted the colonies would fail when we separated from England. The world doesn't stand still, it changes continuously.

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    Listening to "Question Time" at BBC One. Many people in the audience doesn't seem to understand the enormous loss #Brexit means for them.

    'It is no accident that Nigel Farage has long been a regular on the Kremlin-owned propaganda network Russia Today.' https://www.buzzfeed.com/miriamelder...X4#.tg9PLGNGgO

    MORE humor......
    Kremlin announces closure of airspace over #Moscow due to five-hour-long #Brexit celebration fireworks
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    "There is no plan" London Mayor.....
    @SkyNews
    http://news.sky.com/video/1717859/is...no-brexit-plan

    UKIP leader caught in his Leave lies ........
    Actually, Farage said that the UK spends 385m per week on the EU, according to this:

    http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/26/footag...claim-5967094/

    Leader of Leave movement calls campaign promise a “mistake” hours after #Brexit
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...#storylink=cpy
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    Kyle W. Orton @KyleWOrton
    After a member of Labour Shadow Cabinet was fired last night, seven more have resigned this morning. Coup underway.
    http://bit.ly/292r6TO

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