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    Azor....not much in the way of accurate info as the UAF is not talking....

    Evidently it evolved out of a constant amount of shelling coming from this one location and UAF has not been returning much counter fire other than when threatened by ground attacks trying to remain inside Minsk 2 and not be accused for violating it by both Putin and the West.

    Rumored from one comment was that it was a joint infantry attack supported by Mech side....25th BN and the 52nd Brigade a battle hardened UAF Mech line unit fighting since 2014

    Rumored was 11 or so UAF wounded but that did not show up in their daily ATO briefing. No comments on any KIA outside of these WIAs.

    IMHO it had a two fold effect;
    1. destroyed a major artillery position and base camp that had been causing loses
    2. showed the Russian military and her mercenaries the UAF could at their choosing make a very specific rapid attack and advance as fast and as far as they wanted to go

    AND did it get their attention as it has been the Russians and her mercenaries constantly attacking over the last year and the UAF basically sitting and taking it...example the DNR has been on a massive police/security lock down looking for "raiders". via car searches/roadblocks...so maybe also there was a UAF SF unit or two also involved....

    Once the objective was cleared the UAF units returned back to Minsk 2 front lines....

    This is from the vk account of the so called dnrarmy showing the positions as of 1/6/2016

    ну мы тоже посмотрим, что орки нарисовали

    https://pp.vk.me/c636921/v636921523/...e-mDRDZJ8g.jpg

    BTW...the Russians mark their map with the following colors
    RED friendly forces
    BLUE enemy forces

    This is the reverse by the US Army
    RED is enemy
    Blue is friendly

    We saw this Russian map marking method used when I worked with them in 2012/2013 during the Atlas Vision exercises held in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor....not much in the way of accurate info as the UAF is not talking....

    Evidently it evolved out of a constant amount of shelling coming from this one location and UAF has not been returning much counter fire other than when threatened by ground attacks trying to remain inside Minsk 2 and not be accused for violating it by both Putin and the West.

    Rumored from one comment was that it was a joint infantry attack supported by Mech side....25th BN and the 52nd Brigade a battle hardened UAF Mech line unit fighting since 2014

    Rumored was 11 or so UAF wounded but that did not show up in their daily ATO briefing. No comments on any KIA outside of these WIAs.

    IMHO it had a two fold effect;
    1. destroyed a major artillery position and base camp that had been causing loses
    2. showed the Russian military and her mercenaries the UAF could at their choosing make a very specific rapid attack and advance as fast and as far as they wanted to go

    AND did it get their attention as it has been the Russians and her mercenaries constantly attacking over the last year and the UAF basically sitting and taking it...example the DNR has been on a massive police/security lock down looking for "raiders". via car searches/roadblocks...so maybe also there was a UAF SF unit or two also involved....

    Once the objective was cleared the UAF units returned back to Minsk 2 front lines....

    This is from the vk account of the so called dnrarmy showing the positions as of 1/6/2016

    ну мы тоже посмотрим, что орки нарисовали

    https://pp.vk.me/c636921/v636921523/...e-mDRDZJ8g.jpg

    BTW...the Russians mark their map with the following colors
    RED friendly forces
    BLUE enemy forces

    This is the reverse by the US Army
    RED is enemy
    Blue is friendly

    We saw this Russian map marking method used when I worked with them in 2012/2013 during the Atlas Vision exercises held in Germany
    There was heavy fighting around #Debaltseve / #Svitlodarsk again yesterday evening

    Azor....it appears the UAF is holding strategic ground positions covering their own front line and presenting to the DNR/Russian Army a perceived direct threat to Debaltseve for the Russian military a strategic railhead....and this is critical the UAF intently watches to make sure the Russians cannot create a pocket as they only learned badly in 2014 and 2015 in Debaltseve.

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    09:37 #Krasnohorivka @hyeva_maryinka a boom
    09:38 Power supply cut off


    [#Lysychansk] @dadylollipop "At the 29th CP [=#Bakhmut road, area of #Zolote] one wounded..., fragmentation wounds"

    09:37 #Donetsk #Vetka @rjpthjuljytwr [fb] Skirmish. Surprisingly loud and distict like nearby here

    @loogunda mentioned locations:
    #Svitlodarsk, #Luhasnke, #Myronivskyi, #Debaltseve, #Horlivka
    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=48...ch=svitlodarsk
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-02-2016 at 07:58 AM.

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    Obama @POTUS slams Russian aggression against #Ukraine in historic speech in #Canada Parliament
    http://uatoday.tv/politics/obama-sla...nt-684264.html

    Sorry this is in Russian but it pertains to a series of drastic new Russian laws on free speech an internet usage...

    Russia’s uber-popular tech blogger @wylsacom releases 13-min video explaining & criticizing the Yarovaya Amendments
    . https://youtu.be/m_sIkv2dak0

    Duma passed them in three minutes....with no discussions....

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    Google Earth captured a Russian spy UAV in full flight Aug 15 2014 south of Saur Mogila, Ukraine. https://twitter.com/sl0zhny/status/748576028294021120

    More on Russian shot down of MH17

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    For more on the creepiest #MH17 development this year check out this post

    http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17....med-at-july-5/

    MH17 Zuhres video was captured on Iphone 5 and recorded at 11:40 (8:40 UTC time).

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The "MH17 Inquiry" video is so dubious even #MH17 Truthers are claiming it's a false flag to make Russia look suspicious.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The "MH17 Inquiry" video seems to show Russia has resorted to witness tampering to defend themselves against #MH17 accusations.
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 07-02-2016 at 09:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Google Earth captured a Russian spy UAV in full flight Aug 15 2014 south of Saur Mogila, Ukraine. https://twitter.com/sl0zhny/status/748576028294021120

    More on Russian shot down of MH17

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    For more on the creepiest #MH17 development this year check out this post

    http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17....med-at-july-5/

    MH17 Zuhres video was captured on Iphone 5 and recorded at 11:40 (8:40 UTC time).

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The "MH17 Inquiry" video is so dubious even #MH17 Truthers are claiming it's a false flag to make Russia look suspicious.

    Eliot Higgins @EliotHiggins
    The "MH17 Inquiry" video seems to show Russia has resorted to witness tampering to defend themselves against #MH17 accusations.
    DSB: #Buk missile parts recovered from #MH17 wreckage area.

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