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    Based on Russian intelligence that Putin loudly broadcast to the entire world....

    In the next month Erdogan, who "personally smuggles oil for ISIS", will come to Moscow for a visit.

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    From Aleppo 48 minutes ago......this is what happens when a WH FP is built on biases and false ideas built around "do nothing stupid"...even a mouse can do that these days.....but it takes leadership and personal courage to do something in the face of genocide and war crimes.......

    The Shia have only ever brought betrayal and death to the land of Aleppo. If Aleppo falls it is all lost. We may see a Shia century..

    Does the US really want KSA to go to full war in order to dam in the Iranian revoluntionary Islam.....apparently so.......they have stated they are ready and willing to....

    Apparently this WH does not know Iranian revolutionary Islam exists in the ME....and regards those US citizens killed by Iran to be basically just collateral damage along the way of "doing nothing stupid".....
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    #Syria: Twitter is very busy with blocking accounts who reporting about #Assad/ #Putin/#US war crimes. Dozens vanished this evening


    Heavy fighting between rebels and pro-#Assad forces in #Zabadani. Rebels killed again many pro-#Assad forces, including a Captain
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    The number of barrel bombs dropped by Assad on besieged #Daraya yesterday reached 48-50, + airstrikes, shelling & rocket fire of course

    Assad has verifiably used CW repeatedly in the last year and even confirmed by US YET the Obama "red line" appears to have been basically all talk.....

    Reports this morning of an Assad chlorine gas attack on the Layramoun garages area in #Aleppo after rebel attempt to regain lost positions


    Intense Assad artillery & rocket fire targeted Layramoun, Ashrafiyah, Khaldiya, Bani Zaid, Zahra, Kafrhamra & Malah in #Aleppo last night

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    The Obama/Rhodes/Kerry and now Russian WH has for some very odd reason fully backed away form previous administrations who openly and publicly stated the US is against genocide and war crimes.......

    AND this WH and NSC completely ignores the UNSC US Ambassador Power WHO wrote a 600 page book on genocide and the effects of genocide on politics.

    WHY is that????

    Samantha Power Verified account 
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    Strikes by Assad regime hit 4 Aleppo hospitals in <48 hrs. Russia must do its part to stop the fighting. My remarks
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    http://usun.state.gov/remarks/7381

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The Obama/Rhodes/Kerry and now Russian WH has for some very odd reason fully backed away form previous administrations who openly and publicly stated the US is against genocide and war crimes.......

    AND this WH and NSC completely ignores the UNSC US Ambassador Power WHO wrote a 600 page book on genocide and the effects of genocide on politics.

    WHY is that????

    Samantha Power Verified account 
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    Strikes by Assad regime hit 4 Aleppo hospitals in <48 hrs. Russia must do its part to stop the fighting. My remarks
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    http://usun.state.gov/remarks/7381
    Bombing hospitals is a known Russian-Assad tactic. Obama's coordination w/Putin makes us now openly and directly complicit in mass murder.

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    Notice that there is a major event ongoing for the last several weeks in the JaN (AQ) about their formal split from AQ ...openly covered by social media driven by three major ME/Syrian SMEs and VIRTUALLY ignored by the US MSM and this WH.....

    BUT for the ME...extremely important specially for the defeat of IS on their own terms......which is the only way IS will be defeated in the end.

    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    After 5 days of (unusual) silence, Jabhat al-Nusra’s Al-Manara al-Baydha media wing has re-awoken - issuing 7 posts today.

    A #Nusra_Front official tells AP the group's leader #AlGolani plans to announce a disassociation with #al-Qaida soon #Syria
    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    I’m told probably in a live interview with Al-Jazeera tomorrow.
    Also, some key #Nusra leaders may still refuse.

    From another commenter yesterday......
    It is about finalized, split between AQ and JN decided unanimously by #Nusra, however everything else is just guesses.

    For a breakdown of those ongoing JaN internal discussions it has been covered on the Syrian thread.

    IF one takes the time one might notice AQ has not carried out any attacks on the West....has been strictly IS and AQ has "declared war on IS"...AGAIN largely missed on US MSM and here at SWJ.....
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    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    Get excited.

    I’ve got a 55-page in-depth deep-dive profile of Jabhat al-Nusra being published by @BrookingsInst tomorrow!


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    Matthew Rycroft
    ✔ @MatthewRycroft1 Just spoke in #UNSC on #Aleppo. Cant stay silent. Assad must unblock Castello road, end attacks on civilians & medics


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    BreakingFootage
    Secondary explosion hits area of car bomb attack in #Qamishli city
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXgEoGXTA4s

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    Revealed: the £1bn of weapons flowing from Europe to Middle East
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...e_iOSApp_Other

    Excellent investigation by BIRN & OCCRP into billion-euro #Balkan armstrade
    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...XqJJsY.twitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BreakingFootage
    Secondary explosion hits area of car bomb attack in #Qamishli city
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXgEoGXTA4s
    Hasakah: #ISIS released a statement: "#Qamishli bombing was revenge for the bombing of #Manbij/#Aleppo."

    Hasakah: 2 massive #ISIS VBIEDs destroyed several #YPG buildings in #Qamishli & killed 50+ people & wounded 170+.

    Hasakah: The death toll in #Qamishli will rise. Several buildings were leveled to the ground.
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    Palmyra: #ISIS killed 6+ pro-#Assad forces and wounded 10+ more southeast of #Palmyra today. #Homs
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    Aleppo: The rebels never attacked #YPG, they only repelled the nonstop #YPG attacks from #Sheikh_Maqsood.

    New UK FM is getting a tad louder than the UK has been in the past about Assad......

    UK FM Boris Johnson: Syrian civil war will not end until president Assad removed:
    http://bit.ly/2adjAW6
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    Pro-IS Wala & Bara Agency says its correspondent was stabbed & his body burned by regime near Castello road, Aleppo

    YPG apologists dare to call the capture of the "Youth Housing Complex" #defensive.
    It's not. #Assad-#YPG coalition.

    https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/758292103319392256
    This was a total offensive move against FSA in full support of Assad as the Kurds believe that Assad will allow them to split on their own...

    According to YPG propagandist here, YPG & Assad have a "strategic cease-fire" only involve jointly attacking rebels https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/758294934344597505

    The US supported Kurdish proxy YPG is working hand in hand with Assad...that cannot be the Obama FM....but maybe it is....?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Pro-IS Wala & Bara Agency says its correspondent was stabbed & his body burned by regime near Castello road, Aleppo

    YPG apologists dare to call the capture of the "Youth Housing Complex" #defensive.
    It's not. #Assad-#YPG coalition.

    https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/758292103319392256
    This was a total offensive move against FSA in full support of Assad as the Kurds believe that Assad will allow them to split on their own...

    According to YPG propagandist here, YPG & Assad have a "strategic cease-fire" only involve jointly attacking rebels https://twitter.com/GissiSim/status/758294934344597505

    The US supported Kurdish proxy YPG is working hand in hand with Assad...that cannot be the Obama FM....but maybe it is....?????
    Charles Lister @Charles_Lister
    The #YPG has now completed the total siege of opposition-held eastern #Aleppo


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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    Get excited.

    I’ve got a 55-page in-depth deep-dive profile of Jabhat al-Nusra being published by @BrookingsInst tomorrow!

    My deep-dive look at [for now] AQ’s affiliate in #Syria:
    http://brook.gs/2aKaiiY

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    An interesting critique of the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry Russian proposal...and it is coming finally to the same conclusion those top ME/Syrian SMEs have been drumbeating since the proposal was first surfaced....it will weaken the anti Assad forces, turn the civil war into a true civil war, drive far more Syrians into the arms of AQ and basically KEEP Assad in power....not remove him.....

    http://warontherocks.com/2016/07/wha...ly-as-planned/

    What if a U.S.-Russian Deal in Syria Goes Exactly as Planned?

    Faysal Itani


    Most critics of the White House’s proposed U.S.-Russian cooperative arrangement against terrorists in Syria, the terms of which were recently leaked, have focused on what could go wrong. Russia may simply violate the terms of any agreement reached thereby undermining the mission, embarrassing the United States, and hurting its local partners. I am far more troubled, however, by what would happen if the agreement goes as planned. A successful Joint Implementation Group (JIG) would likely weaken or eliminate a strong component of the insurgency without compensating for the lost capacity, further tilting the military balance in the regime’s favor. Unless the United States can prevent that, the JIG would make a lasting negotiated settlement in Syria more difficult than it already is, setting the stage for open-ended civil war and further radicalization.

    The JIG’s terms do not overwhelmingly favor Russia, at least not on paper. They place constraints on its military action in Syria in return for intelligence sharing and possible direct operational cooperation against Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s Syrian affiliate. Russia would also refrain from targeting jointly designated (and presumably opposition-controlled) areas. Russia would compel the regime to ground its air force across much of Syria. Indeed, Russia might find the JIG’s terms too onerous. It can after all continue its own unrestrained war on al-Nusra and the broader insurgency alike without U.S. cooperation.

    If Russia does accept the JIG proposal, it could later derail it through cheating. It could simply violate the terms, especially over target designation and rules of engagement. The document does not mention any penalties for violations, but there appear to be none. Russia may fail (or fail to try) to prevent regime aircraft from operating over “safe” areas, just as it has failed to stop the regime from violating the Cessation of Hostilities, which broke down after a few weeks. Of course, there is little goodwill between the United States and Russia over Syria anyway, meaning intelligence sharing is inherently problematic.

    In theory however the JIG could unfold exactly as planned: Russia and the United States would jointly weaken al-Nusra as a serious strategic threat to the regimeRussia would limit its attacks to designated targets and areas. And regime aircraft would be grounded across much of Syria. That would save innocents from regime aerial bombardment — a worthy goal in itself. Strategically, however, the JIG should be judged by the extent that it serves key U.S. policy goals in Syria: fighting extremism and enabling a negotiated settlement to the civil war. Weakening al-Nusra will bring some temporary satisfaction, but under the current military balance it would destroy any chance of a political settlement to the civil war. It also has the potential to further radicalize Syrians fighting the regime who would be rid of al-Nusra, but then find themselves even less prepared to resist regime violence and negotiate a lasting peace.

    Like any U.S. policy in Syria, the JIG can succeed only to the extent that it accounts for the main context: the civil war. Both al-Nusra and the civilian suffering that the JIG seeks to mitigate are products of this war. Since Russia intervened against the opposition in October 2015, the military balance has increasingly favored the regime, which has made and continues to make important progress against the rebels. The highly strategic province of Idlib (where al-Nusra is strongest) is the insurgency’s most critical remaining stronghold and a staging point for major operations. Here, al-Nusra fights alongside other Islamist and nationalist brigades, but it is likely the single most capable fighting force in that coalition.

    The JIG would break al-Nusra as a conventional fighting force, with two important effects. First, all else being equal, without al-Nusra the opposition will lose Idlib and, with it, its position in northern Syria. The insurgency would no longer pose a strategic threat to the regime, eliminating any incentive for the latter to negotiate a meaningful political settlement with the opposition. Indeed, the regime would be well-placed to crush the remaining insurgent groups as well, including U.S.-backed fighters. A successful JIG would prevent a negotiated settlement by eliminating much of al-Nusra’s capability without replacing or compensating for the insurgency’s lost capacity. This would either prolong the war or facilitate regime progress, killing and radicalizing more Syrians.

    Second, anti-regime Syrians will see the JIG as a joint U.S.-Russian war on the insurgency writ large. Unlike the Islamic State for example, al-Nusra has built considerable local Syrian acceptance, including among major insurgent groups. It is reportedly considering disassociating itself from al-Qaeda to further bind itself with other Syrian insurgent groups. It will be increasingly difficult to target al-Nusra without harming civilians and other opposition fighters. Even if the United States and Russia do so with relative success, Syrians fighting Assad know the end-results will be a weakened insurgency, an intact regime, and a legitimized Russian role in Syria. Just as predictably, this will further radicalize both insurgents and civilians in targeted areas, especially as the JIG permits regime artillery and rocket strikes on opposition territory where the United States and Russia will also be targeting.

    Those wanting to fight extremists and end the Syrian war must concede that any counter-Nusra plan should not strengthen the regime, whose military confidence remains the main driver of radicalization and obstacle to a negotiated settlement. An isolated military effort against al-Nusra would greatly improve Assad’s military position. Al-Nusra should be destroyed of course, but the JIG as currently conceived would very likely sabotage broader U.S. counterterrorism and strategic interests in Syria. An anti-Nusra effort should instead be paired with direct and proxy military pressure on the regime to prevent its capitalizing on a post-Nusra opposition’s weakness. This could include increased qualitative military support to vetted insurgents and a U.S. commitment to punishing any regime targeting of civilians. There are other means, but the aim is to make the military option unpalatable to the regime. Al-Nusra should not be targeted at the price of condemning Syria to endless war and terrorism. If unaccompanied by robust U.S. measures to protect a weakening insurgency and contain an emboldened regime, the JIG will probably destroy the Syrian opposition, rule out any negotiated settlement, and replace one set of radicals with another.
    BUT what happens if in fact JaN splits formally from AQ and aligns itself with a number of the FSA units?????

    Which BTW is currently about to happen....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Notice that there is a major event ongoing for the last several weeks in the JaN (AQ) about their formal split from AQ ...openly covered by social media driven by three major ME/Syrian SMEs and VIRTUALLY ignored by the US MSM and this WH.....

    BUT for the ME...extremely important specially for the defeat of IS on their own terms......which is the only way IS will be defeated in the end.

    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    After 5 days of (unusual) silence, Jabhat al-Nusra’s Al-Manara al-Baydha media wing has re-awoken - issuing 7 posts today.

    A #Nusra_Front official tells AP the group's leader #AlGolani plans to announce a disassociation with #al-Qaida soon #Syria
    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    I’m told probably in a live interview with Al-Jazeera tomorrow.
    Also, some key #Nusra leaders may still refuse.

    From another commenter yesterday......
    It is about finalized, split between AQ and JN decided unanimously by #Nusra, however everything else is just guesses.

    For a breakdown of those ongoing JaN internal discussions it has been covered on the Syrian thread.

    IF one takes the time one might notice AQ has not carried out any attacks on the West....has been strictly IS and AQ has "declared war on IS"...AGAIN largely missed on US MSM and here at SWJ.....
    In case it wasn't obvious: Jabhat al-Nusra's "break" with al-Qaeda is meant to checkmate #IS, too.

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    Russian troll attack targets US experts, government employees &intelligence service veterans
    http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/07/2...ack-americans/

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