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    Assad says hopes Russia can change Turkey's policy towards Syria
    http://reut.rs/2euTXTO

    BUT WAIT....Turkey was not invited to the Swiss weekend meetings with Russia, Iran, US Qatar and KSA.....why because KSA/Qatar have more input into turkey than does Putin and Iran right about now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Ahrar al-Sham’s leader proclaims victory over Jund al-Aqsa & says will fight it again if “criminals” still fight:
    While this is a significant success, it also resulted in a major problem. Namely, Ahrar's victory over the Jund resulted in the latter abandoning its positions in northern Hama. This morning, Assadists of the Liwa ad-Dauter (or Liwa Suqour ad-Dauter), the Quwwat Qalamoun, the Tiger Force, and pan-Arabists of the Arab National Guard, have recaptured the fortified village of Ma'an, a very important piece of real estate in this part of Syria.

    Unless the AAS takes care to replace withdrawing Jund and thus stabilize the situation in this area, the situation could turn into a serious crisis.

    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    Source: Nour al-Din al-Zinki will merge with Ahrar al-Sham.
    [Not accurate: long-time talks are ongoing, but no substantive breakthrough]
    I seriously doubt this.

    Majority of commanders of the Harakat Noureddin az-Zenghi are ex-SyAA officers and NCOs. While they 'islamised' over the last 12 months (and lost the US support because of this), they still insist on fighting under the 'Flag of Independence' (the green-white-black flag with three red stars) - which in turn is something Ahrar is staunchly against (as Syrian Salafists - not to be mixed with typical, transnational Wahhabi Jihadists, though - they simply cannot fight under such a flag).

    This might appear unimportant to many in the West, but is a very important issue to many of Syrian insurgents. Keep in mind: Faylaq ash-Sham separated from the AAS precisely over this issue, back in mid-September this year (and if that's not 'evidence enough', then consider all the hundreds of local FSyA units, all of which would - from typical Western standpoint - easily side with Ahrar, but aren't doing so, precisely for the same reason).

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    Regardless of what one thinks of the French they tend to analyze our FP much better than we do....here is Hollande's view of the Obama failed ME FP.....

    Obama’s decision not 2 use force agst Syria gov in 2013 encouraged Russia mil expansion into Ukraine, Syria: Holland
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/hollande...cy-1476287400#


    IMHO Holland is 500% correct....while Obama thinks that one can change the world by talking...Russia is still intent on the old style 20th century of "power politics"....

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    AM News: Lavrov Says Russia Doesn't Intend to Fight With US; EU Discussing New Sanctions Against Russia Over Aleppo
    http://www.interpretermag.com/russia...3-2016/#15299#

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Next good question: Who produced English-labelled shells for the M46 130 mm gun in the late 90s?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F-ixRVCMXw#…
    Also in #Latakia.
    Full charge~930m/s; reduced charge~705m/s; max.range ~27km/19km. Serbia Yugoimport, BNT; Bulgaria Armaco= English markings.

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    UK looking at military options in #Syria & is in contact w. Clinton team, who take “a tougher line” than #Obama:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...share_btn_tw#…

    What goes around ...
    #Europe & the #US are mulling new sanctions, @HillaryClinton to win the US elex.
    Kremlin is panicking - and will react.

    THUS the Swiss round of meetings this weekend...Russia is trying to lock the US into decisions that the new President cannot overturn nor change.....AND THIS is interesting even Obama/Kerry are trying to tie the hands of the incoming President as well...AND tie them as well in eastern Ukraine.

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    MFA Russia

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    #Zakharova: The US has not provided any facts or arguments to prove its claims of alleged Russian involvement in hacking attacks

    Pinpointing the attack methods and procedures, tools used and from where the attacks occurred might be enough evidence accept Russia does not accept evidence unless they provide the "evidence"....it was the Russian FSB and the sec0nd group the GRU....simple as that....

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    To be clear, there are now two wars in Mideast where US & #Iran are conducting military action for opposing sides: #Syria & #Yemen

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    Another great US FP wonk just came out of the closet.......

    Donald Trump apologized!

    To Serbia!

    For the US stopping genocide in the 1990s!

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    Another great US FP wonk just came out of the closet.......

    Donald Trump apologized!

    To Serbia!

    For the US stopping genocide in the 1990s!


    Trump is now fully inline with Russian FP on Ukraine, Syria and now Serbia....how close can Russian black money get you these days to Russia..very close.....

    That is why he has not shown his IRS tax forms.....as he must repay currently 650M USDs and does not have the capital available so it must come from investors "somewhere"....

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    AFP news agency
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    #BREAKING Moscow says ready to ensure 'safe withdrawal' of armed rebels from Aleppo


    1. Didn't they say that before too Just like they agreed to have humanity Aid but then didn't let it in

    2. "To secure exit for the civilians and opposition from #Aleppo" actually means to enforce sectarian displacement and to disarm rebels

    3. Look up what happened to the Ukrainians at the Battle of Ilovaisk to see how genuine that offer is.

    They mean ALL rebels!
    =Surrender of the opposition
    =Capture of eastern Aleppo by Assad
    =Exactly what Russia wants - one way or another
    =NoGo


    THE BIGGEST propaganda myth put out by Assad and Putin.....both sides of Aleppo are suffering......that is an outright farce of a statement and the western side has never been bombed, shelled and or starved by the anti Assad forces inside eastern Aleppo and the rebels who controlled the water supplies have continued to provide western Aleppo with water....
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 10-13-2016 at 02:34 PM.

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    MFA Russia

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    #Zakharova: The outgoing US administration seems to be applying a scorched land tactic to Russian-US relations | @RusEmbUSA


    Russia all on it's own appears to have done a great job of scorched earth policies in eastern Ukraine and Syria......

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    Saber-rattling propaganda?: Half hour of reports on #Aleppo on #Russia state TV include general saying he's ready to shoot down US planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Saber-rattling propaganda?: Half hour of reports on #Aleppo on #Russia state TV include general saying he's ready to shoot down US planes.
    WHAT is extremely interesting to watch right now are the same exact mistakes made by the Soviet Union shortly before the collapse of the WALL and the collapse of the SU.

    I had camped my way through the SU in 1972 and again in 1973 and after eight weeks of total camping inherently knew the SU was not an economic power capable of supporting a super power...YEs they had nuclear weapons and YEs they had a large land army and AF and were capable of threatening NATO but in the end a superpower has to have three elements 1) economic power, 2) international political soft power, and 3) military power capable off going world wide for long sustained operations......

    Right now Russia is not an economic power and is in fact slowing collapsing under the weight of two full scale wars in Ukraine and Syrian costing at least 15M USD per day to maintain...secondly their soft power is based largely on propaganda that is not pulling the way it was two years ago especially in the face of "war crimes charges" in both Syria and Ukraine and lastly militarily they are barely able to extend that power to Syria and not much further as they really have no truly powerful "blue water Navy" and their global bases while they exist cannot support sustained long term operations.....

    SO right now ALL that is coming out of Moscow is bluster and bluff trying to convince both themselves and the US that they are indeed a "superpower"...equal to the US...

    Russian military circles have repeatedly stated they cannot win a full on war with NATO and the US especially on the nuclear side of things yet bluster and propaganda are the only things they can throw at the US right now.....

    One Russian paper today says US must either "give up idea of American hegemony" or risk "a new Cold War or World War 3"

    BTW...Putin has us already in a Cold War 3.0.....

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    ProKremlin media smokescreen on attack on humanitarian aid convoy in #Syria
    http://eepurl.com/cjTUnv
    (click on timeline below) #DisinfoReview

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    NOTICE Russia is still trying to place Ahrar a Sham into the terrorist corner....
    From the 500% Russian owned propaganda media outlet Sputnik International

    https://sputniknews.com/world/201610...a-aleppo-syria


    Top US-Backed Rebel Group Signs Deal to Fight Alongside Daesh Offshoot in Syria

    The second largest US-backed rebel group Ahrar al-Sham reworked their agreement with al-Qaeda affiliate al-Nusra Front which absorbed a major Daesh (ISIS) offshoot Jund al-Aqsa on Sunday.On Monday, leaders from the second largest US-backed rebel group in Syria — Ahrar al-Sham — reached a new agreement with Syria's long-time al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra Front calling for cooperation with terrorist fighters from the Daesh (ISIS) offshoot Jund al-Aqsa that pledged allegiance to and was absorbed by al-Nusra Front on Sunday.

    ​The cooperation deal places Washington in a troubling predicament with the Obama White House continuing to provide aid and support to Ahrar al-Sham which fights now with both al-Qaeda and an offshoot of Daesh (ISIS) under the umbrella organization The Army of Conquest undermining the United States claim to moral superiority in dealing with the Syrian theater with the US now aligned directly behind the terrorists that they claim to be fighting against. ​

    The development may ultimately force Washington's hand to reconsider their current strategy that has focused on both tackling the spread of the Daesh (ISIS) terror group in Syria while still looking to oust the Assad regime on account of the fierce bombing campaigns conducted by both Syrian and Russian forces to weed out that multiplying terror threat.

    In the wake of the ceasefire collapse, to which Ahrar al-Sham openly refused to act in accordance and stated to Washington directly that they would not disband from the Al-Nusra Front terror group because it is "impossible," the United States and its Western allies have gone on the offensive against Russia and the Syrian regime within the halls of the UN Security Council with France even exploring the possibility of war crimes probes against Moscow and Damascus with the International Criminal Court.
    NOTE...the last time I checked the US has never supported nor provided military aid or funding to AAS.....a fact that the Russians somehow just keep overlooking....

    WHY the Russians do not attack directly Qatar, Turkey and KSA about AAS is amazing to watch just how they sidestep that confrontation....

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    NOTICE that Sputnik mentioned possible Russian war crimes......

    MSF International

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    #Syria: "We’ve been working every day around the clock" - Dr Abu Huthaifa, a surgeon from #Aleppo #DoctorsOfAleppo


    YES the deliberate targeting of civilians with cluster munitions, cluster incendiary munitions and thmerobaric weapons also being used against hospitals is in fact a war crime to be brought in front of the ICC....

    Is there too much focus on Russian atrocities in Syria? No. Russia has killed 4-8x more civilians than the coalition
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/re...ad-as-russias#
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    Interesting article by The Daily Beast.....

    Interesting. Tenuous but relevant
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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/
    10/13/networks-in-syria-go-out-as-russian-ship-lingers-by-coast.html#


    ARE in fact the Russians attempting to stop the internet reporting by anti Assad forces....???

    This Russian spy ship being near the Syrian coastline was posted here a number of days ago....

    We have seen similar Russian EW shutdowns of the Ukrainian internet in the areas of eastern Ukraine when they launch ground attacks as well as the shutting down the cell phone comms....
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 10-14-2016 at 07:11 AM.

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    Remarkable that Bloomberg, whose editorial line has been very soft on Putin, publishes such a hard-hitting op ed.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-poison-it-is#

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    In #Estonian we've saying: "If you cry wolf the wolf will come."
    Smells like World War 3 in #Syria (spelled by al-Assad)

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