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    Won my bet that the Obama WH would do nothing until they leave....after they announced really for spin purposes and to cover for the Russians and Iranians....that the President was going over his so called "military options"....

    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    After more consultations, White House has decided to give #Syria talks another go
    [Try again & again, hoping result will change = insanity]


    NOTICE just how the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH caves to Russian demands in order to just get this meeting WHICH in the end will achieve absolutely nothing....

    Moscow shaping participants to attend tomorrow's #Syria meeting in #Lausanne:

    #Russia
    #Egypt
    #Iran
    #Iraq

    #US

    #Saudi
    #Turkey
    #Qatar


    NOTICE that the US is not by any means a "neutral party" as Kerry has repeatedly supported the Putin position first on Assad and secondly on disarming the anti Assad forces and forcing them to surrender "believing" that the ballot box" over rules the motto..."all power comes from the barrel of a gun"....especially true when the other side has more guns than you do.....

    BTW...what good is a so called "ballot" when 9M Arab Sunni's are refugees, 3M are IDPs and the rest of the 74% of the Sunni Syrian pollution either being starved into submission and or bombed into submission AND over 500,000 killed.....

    REMEMBER Assad/Putin just held Parliament elections and the Arab Sunni's were not allowed to even vote???
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    JFS militants attacked a Suqor al-Sham base in Ariha, #Idlib - likely in response to an earlier Suqor al-Sham raid on Jund al-Aqsa fighters.

    Ahrar al-Sham, Suqor al-Sham, Fastaqm Kama Umirt & Jaish al-Mujahideen have formed an alliance to combat Jund al-Aqsa, if necessary.

    Multiple opposition grps have sent forces to #Idlib to bolster Suqor al-Sham's defenses, in anticipation of a Jund al-Aqsa/JFS attack.

    JFS is finding it hard to let go of the tiger stripes called AQ...when it comes to defending a fellow IS type group.....

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    Acc. to @TheStudyofWar, #Russia continues to fight terrorism by almost entirely avoiding #ISIS territory in its #Syria airstrikes.

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    The FSA’s 101st Division, led by @hasanalhamada, has restructured & renamed itself the 21st Division.

    New military chief = Yusuf al-Hamoud

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    Kyle W. Orton ‏@KyleWOrton
    The US intends to "revisit the arrangements" the Russians shredded with airstrikes in Syria.

    AND we are off to the Kerry talking races that in the end go absolutely nowhere as they are intended to go nowhere.....


    White House readout on the president's National Security Council meeting on #Syria:

    Kyle W. Orton ‏@KyleWOrton
    The words "stakeholders" and "equities" might not be in there, but #Iran's and #Russia's interests are represented all the same. #Syria


    Kyle W. Orton ‏@KyleWOrton
    As a statement of intent, blitzing an aid convoy is fairly easy to interpret. But doubtless #Russia will behave better this time in #Syria.


    BUT WAIT...if Obama and Kerry think the Russians are going to "behave better this time around"...what a farce that is....as they will not behave the way the US wants them to....simple fact of life with Putin in charge....

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    Kyle W. Orton ‏@KyleWOrton

    I'm shocked, simply #shocked:

    US officials say Iran supplied Houthis with missiles to target US ship

    WHO in the DC area and inside the IC thought this was not possible....please raise your hands....


    Shows the sheer lack of understanding anything in the ME right now either from the Obama WH, or the IC or the DoD....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Won my bet that the Obama WH would do nothing until they leave....after they announced really for spin purposes and to cover for the Russians and Iranians....that the President was going over his so called "military options"....

    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    After more consultations, White House has decided to give #Syria talks another go
    [Try again & again, hoping result will change = insanity]


    NOTICE just how the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH caves to Russian demands in order to just get this meeting WHICH in the end will achieve absolutely nothing....

    Moscow shaping participants to attend tomorrow's #Syria meeting in #Lausanne:

    #Russia
    #Egypt
    #Iran
    #Iraq

    #US

    #Saudi
    #Turkey
    #Qatar


    NOTICE that the US is not by any means a "neutral party" as Kerry has repeatedly supported the Putin position first on Assad and secondly on disarming the anti Assad forces and forcing them to surrender "believing" that the ballot box" over rules the motto..."all power comes from the barrel of a gun"....especially true when the other side has more guns than you do.....

    BTW...what good is a so called "ballot" when 9M Arab Sunni's are refugees, 3M are IDPs and the rest of the 74% of the Sunni Syrian pollution either being starved into submission and or bombed into submission AND over 500,000 killed.....

    REMEMBER Assad/Putin just held Parliament elections and the Arab Sunni's were not allowed to even vote???
    REMEMBER when Kerry stated Putin and Assad should be charged with war crimes for their hospital bombing campaign AND THEN his own DoS spokesperson WALKED IT BACK....and he and the DoS has never said another word about war crimes have they....????

    BUT WAIT another hospital is hit by Russian air strikes yesterday....ONE day before the Swiss meeting is to occur....accident or intentional....???

    UOSSM Canada ‏@uossmCan 11h
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    #Breaking video of Hospital bombed in Aleppo hours ago.


    Aleppo City today.
    The #AssadPutin terrorism continues.
    Let's talk to #Russia!
    Will make things better for sure!...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUgd...utu.be#…

    Another air strike to add to the dozens of shells lobbed into eastern #Aleppo tonight

    Like every day, #AssadPutin air strikes hit the besieged areas in eastern #Aleppo city.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0vsku4BbR8#…

    Scary-looking explosions on fields around #Lataminah in #Hama today.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgLYfVMOFp0#…

    Turkish presidential spox İ. Kalın on the upcoming talks in #Lausanne
    #Assad regime,#Russian air strikes off the table
    Mission accomplished.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgLYfVMOFp0#…
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    REMEMBER when Kerry stated Putin and Assad should be charged with war crimes for their hospital bombing campaign AND THEN his own DoS spokesperson WALKED IT BACK....and he and the DoS has never said another word about war crimes have they....????

    BUT WAIT another hospital is hit by Russian air strikes yesterday....ONE day before the Swiss meeting is to occur....accident or intentional....???

    UOSSM Canada ‏@uossmCan 11h
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    #Breaking video of Hospital bombed in Aleppo hours ago.


    Aleppo City today.
    The #AssadPutin terrorism continues.
    Let's talk to #Russia!
    Will make things better for sure!...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUgd...utu.be#…

    Another air strike to add to the dozens of shells lobbed into eastern #Aleppo tonight

    Like every day, #AssadPutin air strikes hit the besieged areas in eastern #Aleppo city.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0vsku4BbR8#…

    Scary-looking explosions on fields around #Lataminah in #Hama today.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgLYfVMOFp0#…

    Turkish presidential spox İ. Kalın on the upcoming talks in #Lausanne
    #Assad regime,#Russian air strikes off the table
    Mission accomplished.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgLYfVMOFp0#…
    BUT WAIT....here comes the "truth".....

    State department spox Toner: "don't expect any breakthroughs in Lausanne." Hope to get multilateral talks on Syria back up and running.

    AND from the Russians....as usual.....
    Al Arabiya English
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    #Breaking #Russia does not intend to put forward new initiatives on #Syria crisis at Lausanne
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    MORE ETHNIC CLEANSING is ongoing and yet the talk of war crime charges against Assad and Putin have muted under US pressure...WHY is that????


    1287 people (acc. to opp. media) were displaced by the #Assad regime in what becomes a regular move.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-IClXIAQow#…

    Assad's #EthnicCleansing, facilitated by @SYRedCrescent, continues.
    This time fr. 2 towns in #EastGhouta to #Idlib.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akC-Qpw-MZM#…

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    On Nov 24, 2015, #Turkey downs a Russian jet.

    On Oct 14, 2016, #Russia offers Turkey AA systems.

    Turkish patriots must LOVE #Erdogan ...

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    #BREAKING Kremlin says Russia may supply air defense systems to Turkey, issue discussed at Putin-Erdoğan meeting in Istanbul


    KEY WORD...in Russian....."may"......

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    At least 9 people killed in strikes targeted Aleppo #LausanneMeeting
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Won my bet that the Obama WH would do nothing until they leave....after they announced really for spin purposes and to cover for the Russians and Iranians....that the President was going over his so called "military options"....

    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister
    After more consultations, White House has decided to give #Syria talks another go
    [Try again & again, hoping result will change = insanity]


    NOTICE just how the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH caves to Russian demands in order to just get this meeting WHICH in the end will achieve absolutely nothing....

    Moscow shaping participants to attend tomorrow's #Syria meeting in #Lausanne:

    #Russia
    #Egypt
    #Iran
    #Iraq

    #US

    #Saudi
    #Turkey
    #Qatar


    NOTICE that the US is not by any means a "neutral party" as Kerry has repeatedly supported the Putin position first on Assad and secondly on disarming the anti Assad forces and forcing them to surrender "believing" that the ballot box" over rules the motto..."all power comes from the barrel of a gun"....especially true when the other side has more guns than you do.....

    BTW...what good is a so called "ballot" when 9M Arab Sunni's are refugees, 3M are IDPs and the rest of the 74% of the Sunni Syrian pollution either being starved into submission and or bombed into submission AND over 500,000 killed.....

    REMEMBER Assad/Putin just held Parliament elections and the Arab Sunni's were not allowed to even vote???

    VALID Question actually....

    WHO cut off UK, France & Germany & why is Iraq attending, is it because they supply militias fighting for Assad, in this case where is Lebanon in this meeting since it appears to be basically a gang of Shia mercenaries supported by Russia against the Arab Sunni Front States.....?


    BUT WAIT...UK/France were cut out because they demanded war crime charges against Assad and Putin AND the US caved on their demands for the same thing...WHY is that?????
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    Brutal but true comment.....
    This map shows why Obama & the "leftist" are such duplicitous amoral liars & invent pathetic excuses to delay real solutions
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    HOW strange is this...DoD can launch cruise missiles against radar sites BUT not against the Assad AF responsible for war crimes and genocide....MAKE sense to anyone????


    PENTAGON: USS Nitze strikes three Houthi radar positions on Yemen coast with Tomahawks in response to attacks on US naval assets in Red Sea.

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    CrowBat....anything on your end on this?????

    New form of air defense systems....DYI version.....
    Rebels claim it were anti-air nitrogen filled balloons with RDX explosives attached that damaged SAA Su-22 yesterday
    http://b-sy.net/2qyse56l

    SyAAF reported intense Rebel AA Flak fire and as many as 3 MANPADS launches at 2 Su-24s, with one getting damaged and forced to land.

    HUGE ! Rebels in Idleb-Hama have received a few "Battlefield Surveillance Radars" that will allow them to monitor movement of enemy.
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    Cyberwar is coming. Grab popcorn. Buy network sniffer.
    Watch the greatest show on the Earth live and in real time.

    CIA readies for a cyber attack on Russia big time is the rumor here announced via NBS yesterday....BUT from my business world we are already at war on the net from more than anyone in DC wants to admit.....

    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...-786434627946#
    FULL REPORT: @NBCNews has learned the CIA is preparing a major unprecedented cyber-strike against Russia

    Many of us on internet security side have repeatedly stated this should have happen a long time ago......not as an after thought due to the electoral interference by Russia.....Russian has been seriously hacking Europe big time and nothing was said....
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    Russia escalating,sending more troops,firepower to #Syria,ignoring everyone on the planet & US still talking

    EU Mythbusters

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    Pro-Kremlin disinfo level 2.0: respond to claim that you are distorting truth by distorting truth:
    http://eepurl.com/cjTUnv
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    Well worth reading......
    Putin, Syria and Why Moscow Has Gone War Crazy

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...gone-war-crazy

    A viewer of Russian television this week could be forgiven for thinking that the end of the world was imminent, and that it would arrive in the form of grand superpower war with the United States, culminating in a suicidal exchange of nuclear weapons. On one day alone, three separate test firings of intercontinental ballistic missiles were broadcast on state media: two by submarine, one from a launch pad in the Far East.

    Last weekend, NTV, a channel under effective state control, aired a segment on emergency preparedness that included a tour of a Cold War-era bomb shelter, fortified in case of atomic war, and a mention of the municipal loudspeakers that will sound upon the arrival of “Hour X.” On Sunday, Dmitry Kiselev, the most bombastic and colorful of Kremlin propagandists, warned on his weekly newsmagazine show that “impudent behavior” toward Russia may have “nuclear” consequences.

    Grievances against the West and predictions of militaristic doom are not new in Russia—they have run through all sixteen years of Vladimir Putin’s rule. But they took on a heightened intensity in early 2014, after Russia’s intervention in Ukraine and the U.S. sanctions that followed. Suddenly the question of war was in the air in Moscow. If nothing else, the spectre of a conflict with Washington served as retroactive justification for the Kremlin’s policies, and a ready-made excuse for why the Russian economy had sunk into recession. At home, Russia’s ostracization was spun as a sign of its righteousness.

    The war in Syria, however, was supposed to offer Russia a chance to rehabilitate its image and re-start relations with the United States. Last year, Putin travelled to New York, where he addressed the United Nations and called for “a genuinely broad international coalition” to fight the Islamic State. According to a deeply informed new book on Putin and his court, “All the Kremlin’s Men,” by the Russian journalist Mikhail Zygar, the idea, as Putin and his speechwriters had imagined it, was to “brand ISIS as the new Third Reich.” Putin envisioned a grand coalition, Zygar writes—just like in the good old days of the Second World War—that would bring Russia out of its isolation; what’s more, Putin seemed to hope that, by “defeating Islamic terrorism, the Russians and Americans would finally succeed in creating a new world order.”

    It would be Yalta, 1945, all over again—Putin’s dream scenario of how global diplomacy is meant to work.

    For a while, things appeared to be going largely Putin’s way. At last year’s U.N. general assembly, Putin also had a one-on-one meeting with Obama for the first time in two years. In the months that followed, Moscow became a hub of diplomatic activity, with everyone from Benjamin Netanyahu to the Emir of Qatar flocking to town for audiences with the Russian leader.

    Meanwhile, a Russian air campaign in Syria was helping Bashar al-Assad regain territory and push back rebel forces. “Russia’s battlefield successes in Syria have given Moscow . . . new leverage in decisions about the future of the Middle East,” the Times reported as recently as this August. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Lavrov were meeting every few weeks, and regularly exchanging gifts and jokes. (In March, when Lavrov turned sixty-six, Kerry told him, “You look terrific for thirty-nine.”)

    In September, their talks culminated in a deal—viewed with great skepticism by the Pentagon—that laid out terms for a ceasefire in Syria, and which foresaw joint U.S.-Russian air strikes against extremist groups. Kerry hailed the agreement as “a turning point, a moment of change.”

    All that has collapsed in the past month. The ceasefire agreement fell apart after U.S. forces killed dozens of Syrian troops in a bombing raid—a mistaken strike, U.S. officials said—and a U.N. humanitarian-aid convoy was hit in an air attack outside Aleppo, leaving twenty people dead. That strike was widely blamed on Syrian attack helicopters working under the cover of Russian airpower.

    In the aftermath of the convoy strike, Kerry declared his interest in seeing Russia and the Syrian government investigated for war crimes for its alleged bombing of civilian areas in Aleppo. The notion that Washington and Moscow could work together to resolve Syria’s horrific war now appears to have been scrapped.

    At a press conference on September 28th, John Kirby, a State Department spokesperson, warned that Russia’s continued military campaign in Syria could lead to terror attacks in Russian cities and “troops in body bags.”

    Writing in the Financial Times, Dmitri Trenin, the head of Carnegie Moscow Center, a policy think tank, imagined that Syria “could easily turn into a battlefield” between Moscow and Washington, “with the proxies first taking aim at the principals, and the principals then shooting back not at the proxies, but at each other.”

    Continued....
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    Russia's only aircraft carrier left its Murmansk base and now heads towards the waters off Syria.
    http://thebarentsobserver.com/en/sec...towards-syria#

    Escorted by Russian tugs in case it sinks along the way....

    Russian ships to the Med- 1x Aircraft Carrier, 1x Heavy Battlecruiser, 1x Destroyer, 2x frigate, 4x corvettes, est. 6-10 support vessels.

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    Aleppo #Syria doctor files legal action on #Russia at European Court of Human Rights over hospitals bombing
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/mid

    IMHO...he will win and then what does the EU then do as the decision would be equally binding on their actions towards Putin...this court they cannot just ignore as it is a cornerstone to the core EU policies and 4 main EU core laws....

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