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    Russia's *fearsome* aircraft carrier is also unable to deploy jets fully fuelled or fully loaded w. bombs as launch system too weak.

    In past 6yrs, its known to have:

    - set fire (killing one sailor)
    - spilled fuel
    - required US Navy's 6th Fleet escort in case of sinking

    Has now a tug in her convoy....smokes like crazy and has cancelled ALL air ops as she is underway....

    BLUE WATER NAVY....more like a local lake navy.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    SO much for that rumored warming up between Putin and Erdogan....

    Syria #Russia'n airstrikes on #FSA south of #Mare in northern #Aleppo
    First time that they target #Turkey backed #EuphratesShield area

    APPEARS the RuAF wants to provoke an outright air war.....they should be extremely careful as the vaulted S300/400s are not so vaulted......as NATO has trained to attack them with ease.....
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    Highly significant - #Russia airstrikes have protected #YPG/SDF advances against #Turkey-backed FSA forces fighting #ISIS in N. #Aleppo.

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    We don't know who the rebels are" -- @realdonaldtrump b/c he didn't read @badly_xeroxed @ryanmofarrell

    Trump could have landed a great consulting gig with the Obama/Rhodes/Kerry WH as this was their mantra when trying to find those so called Syrian "moderates" as an excuse to not engage into Syria and deter war crimes, starvation and genocide.....and using even Trump's tweet......SAD.....

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    Sultan Murad brigade firing mortars on regime forces security building in #Aleppo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJexlaTR6w#…

    Ahrar al sham fighters training for an eventual battle to open a way to relieve the siege on eastern #ghouta
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is4dkgStkjI#…

    Ahrar al sham firing rockets on neirab military airport #Aleppo earlier today
    https://youtu.be/gIQ_Apk90AY

    Large convoy of aid enters #Douma, eastern #Ghouta

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7KxOS3SuV4#…

    Rahman corps destroy a regime sniper position in #Ghouta with a recoilless rifle
    https://youtu.be/oDgk_sO17pk

    Al Safwa Islamic Battalion target regime Security center with mortars in Sulaymaniyah

    Video of al Safwa islamic Battalion in N. #Aleppo during #Euphrates_shield operations
    https://youtu.be/27QWMu8NKBY

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    Aleppo now
    #Assad's #EthnicCleansing busses waiting
    @SYRedCrescent displacement helpers waiting
    #Russian drone overhead.
    But no one coming


    SIMPLY PUT IT IS AMAZING THE SELF CONTROL OF THE EASTERN ALEPPO SUNNI CIVILIANS WHO HAVE BEEN UNDER A RUSSIAN AIR CAMPAIGN OF UTTER DESTRUCTION A LA GRONZY

    Russia gave a humanitarian aid party and no way showed up...EVER wonder WHY?????

    RIGHT NOW RUSSIAN DRONE ANALYSTS ARE SEARCHING FAR AND WIDE FOR ANY SIGNS OF CIVILIANS "STREAMING TO THEIR BUSES AND THERE ARE NONE...NONE WHATSOVEVER .......

    In their live feed you can sense the frustration and utter disbelief..........as the drone operator keeps searching for a sign of civilians anywhere...
    http://syria.mil.ru/syria/livecam.htm#

    BTW they stopped and froze their live feed at 12:43:12 as there was nothing to actually show......other than empty street after empty street...NOT a single civilian to be seen anywhere.....remarkable
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Aleppo now
    #Assad's #EthnicCleansing busses waiting
    @SYRedCrescent displacement helpers waiting
    #Russian drone overhead.
    But no one coming


    SIMPLY PUT IT IS AMAZING THE SELF CONTROL OF THE EASTERN ALEPPO SUNNI CIVILIANS WHO HAVE BEEN UNDER A RUSSIAN AIR CAMPAIGN OF UTTER DESTRUCTION A LA GRONZY

    Russia gave a humanitarian aid party and no way showed up...EVER wonder WHY?????

    RIGHT NOW RUSSIAN DRONE ANALYSTS ARE SEARCHING FAR AND WIDE FOR ANY SIGNS OF CIVILIANS "STREAMING TO THEIR BUSES AND THERE ARE NONE...NONE WHATSOVEVER .......

    In their live feed you can sense the frustration and utter disbelief..........as the drone operator keeps searching for a sign of civilians anywhere...
    http://syria.mil.ru/syria/livecam.htm#

    BTW they stopped and froze their live feed at 12:43:12 as there was nothing to actually show......other than empty street after empty street...NOT a single civilian to be seen anywhere.....remarkable
    Putin's options are now rapidly running out...if he continues the Gronzy style destruction of Aleppo WHICH he really wants to do he himself is then responsible for a hardening of EU sanctions on the Crimea/Ukraine side and far harsher sanctions for Aleppo and war crimes....

    I have never in over 40 odd years of living in and out of Europe seen a French President call out Putin and or any former Soviet or Russian leader for "war crimes"...as the French stated..."true war crimes"....

    WHILE Putin attempts to laugh off the effects of the sanctions ALL one hears from him and his Duma is what damages they are and have been causing...so YES they do in fact hurt and hurt badly....

    Putin if he continues the destruction of Aleppo truly runs the risk of being charged in the ICC for war crimes...and even as a sitting so called Russian President he could be arrested and hauled into court....ask African leaders who have had the experience....WHILE his courts defy the ECHR he cannot if he does not want to run the risk of being personally sanctioned and cut off from the banking world with his BILLIONS stashed overseas...that could in fact be confiscated and or seized.

    Right now his so called "blue water navy" is really being seen as a "local lake navy" that after 80-90 days has to return to base and refit and resupply....he has been largely unable to project for really extended periods of time a strong naval presence anywhere...

    Putin has really reached a point where he himself has to ask...is Assad really worth it???? WHY right now the vaulted Iranian, Hezbollah and Shia militias are truly not in a position to win against the anti Assad forces manpower wise and or in a position cost wise to continue years if needed in fighting a guerrilla war with the anti Assad forces....

    Assad and Putin really do need to look at the current situation...even if Assad can gain some control of the hand full of rebel held cities...Assad and Putin would need upwards of a 300,000 man force to tamp down a guerrilla war and he simply does not have the necessary troops and MONEY....

    Reference the impact of sinking oil prices and the sanctions...in German...stagnation in Russia until 2035...Putin cannot afford another round of sanctions due to Aleppo and Syria.....

    Prognose des russischen Wirtschaftsministeriums: Stagnation bis 2035
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    WELL the Russian drone operator is back at it again now at 13:04:31 and counting and he is screening his long line of buses .....STILL no civilians.......

    WOW.......must be frustrating for the Russian MoD to have thrown a humanitarian aid party and no one came..

    BUT HEY they organized it without the UN, the US and the EU and never planned on providing actual humanitarian aid to anyone inside eastern Aleppo....


    SIDE COMMENT:.....the quality of the drone footage is actually quite poor...the US Shadow at that height gives far better screen and resolution quality.....
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    Kafranbel SCD center was targeted by an airstrike last night;3 volunteers were injured, one of them critically. @SyriaCivilDef

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    NewsMap
    Seemingly afraid, their #Rojava project will end for good, #YPG forces put all their energy in the push eastwards now.
    #Aleppo


    WITH the Turkish AF following their every move..........
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    Heavy Turkish artillery fire (not "air strikes" as many suggest) on #YPG-held towns north of #Aleppo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-iOMPB6Lrc#…

    RUSSIAN WAR CRIMES....attacking hospitals and clearly marked civil defense facilities

    Russia's systematic attacks on @SyriaCivilDef centres continue.
    Beside Kafranbel, also in #MaaratAlNuman today
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxEK-t1z4hg#…

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    WELL the Russian drone operator is back at it again now at 13:04:31 and counting and he is screening his long line of buses .....STILL no civilians.......

    WOW.......must be frustrating for the Russian MoD to have thrown a humanitarian aid party and no one came..

    BUT HEY they organized it without the UN, the US and the EU and never planned on providing actual humanitarian aid to anyone inside eastern Aleppo....


    SIDE COMMENT:.....the quality of the drone footage is actually quite poor...the US Shadow at that height gives far better screen and resolution quality.....
    And over #Aleppo, they drop leaflets,asking the people to surrender / leave / agree to their #EthnicCleansing
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlEhgoOk41c#…

    The price for a calm #Aleppo
    #AssadPutin heavy and sustained air strikes on
    #Souran
    #Sayad
    #MaaratAlNuman
    #KafrNaha
    #Sarmin
    #DayrHafir
    #Lataminah
    #JisrAlShughur
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    Assad regime artillery fire hit and damaged a school near #Daraa city.

    Ethnic cleansing is still ongoing and the entire WEST says not a single word, utterance and or press conference...EVEN the UN remains totally quiet and silent in the face of war crimes, starvation and genocide....why is that?????

    2 months after #Daraya evacuation, fighters & civilians from nearby #Damascus neighbourhood (Muhadamiat Al-Sham) reached N. Rebel territory
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    Irkutsk, #Russia @rentvchannel Tu-95 bomber burst into flame at a mil base near Irkutsk
    http://ren.tv/novosti/2016-10-20/bom...pod-irkutskom#

    RuAF is slowly but steadily either crashing and being grounded and or catching fire.....

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    Syria Run for al Bab town in eastern #Aleppo
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    DOES anyone ever question WHY some western MSM journalists seem to always appear at Russian propaganda events invited and cleared by the Russians and Assad to report the Assad/Putin version of events BUT NEVER seem to make it to the rebel side of the Syrian war?

    SO just how much do they get for their reporting efforts and what kind of hotels and free flight did they get??????


    THIS particular journalist has never reported from the rebel side BUT a lot from the Assad side.....

    Dan Rivers ‏@danriversitv 1h
    1 hour ago
    Mortar lands right where buses were parked - buses had moved though due to gunfire

    Buses ready to 'evacuate' civilians from east - so far no one has crossed. A rebel mortar just landed 50 ft from us. No injuries thank God.

    Syrian APC broadcasts message telling people in east they will ensure their safe passage. So far no one has crossed

    Bakery we filmed yesterday totally destroyed at crossing point Bustan al Qasr - rebel rockets lying nearby

    ITV News
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    Mortar fire in Aleppo as 'humanitarian pause' begins - our news editor @jonathanwalditn's hotel window has been hit
    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-...egins/#…

    IF one takes the time to really go through this particular twitter feed from the journalist....when he talks about the rebel mortar rounds HE truly failed in the same breath to talk and the Assad Shia/Hezbollah ground attacks over the last week through this exact area....

    FAIR AND BALANCED...seriously doubt it...fair and balanced is determined by who is paying these days NOT by the "truth".....

    ITV has been called out a number of times for be a paid proAssad mouthpiece in certain articles.....


    EXAMPLE....there are countless smuggle routes into eastern Aleppo..WHY did this journalist not take the risk upon himself and see and experience at first hand the sheer Russian bombing destruction just 500 meters away from where he was standing...THAT he did not but he can talk about a "rebel mortar round landing nearby"....

    That would be true "combat journalism" not "invited tourist journalism".....
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    THIS is exactly the poor quality of MSM journalism I am talking about......

    The world's most dangerous sports stadium: 5 mortars in two days Aleppo

    REALLY the most dangerous place in Aleppo...come on....????

    FIVE mortar rounds in TWO full days.......WHERE was he WHEN Putin rained bunker busters into row after row of residential housing killing tens and wounding tens ....many of whom were children........TWO days before the so called Russian ceasefire.....

    WHY do we need to rely on local activists to provide video footage WHEN we have such well trained journalists in the area BUT somehow they cannot be found to travel in and report the "truth".
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    The Russian Def Min is live-streaming from cameras on its 'humanitarian corridors' from Aleppo. They look deserted:
    http://syria.mil.ru/syria/livecam.htm#

    Russian is holding a humanitarian aid party and no one is coming to it??????

    MAYBE the Syrians learned the UAF lesson when they were offered a "humanitarian corridor" to withdraw and were slaughtered by Russian troops that the US/EU initially refused to believe were inside Ukrainian territory....

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    WHEN Putin arrived yesterday in Berlin to talk Ukraine and Syria he was accompanied by two individuals on the main sanctions list that should have never been in Berlin.....BUT Merkel requested a special allowance for them....WHY was that.....BUT EU MSM outside of the German media outlet BILD did not pick up on the two......

    BUT US MSM did in fact notice it.......Merkel is moving fast to try to get some sort of agreement by December SO that Obama can claim a successful wrap up of the Russian invasions of Crimea and eastern Ukraine for his "legacy".....

    The #German government's sanctions (vs. #Russia) "suspension" / ->breach was also noticed by the @washingtonpost.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...y.html#…

    SERIOUS rumors afloat in Berlin today that Merkel wants to lift sanctions against Russia in DEC that is the pressure she, Biden and Kerry/Nuland HAVE been applying against Ukraine....ALL want Ukraine to cave for unilateral appeasement moves WITHOUT a single reciprocal move by Putin..SAD......

    SO all her talk about Syrian sanctions for war crimes is JUST what it is...TALK..

    Merkel should have reread this........

    Geopol Intelligence @GeopolIntel
    BY Sophia Pugsley & Fredrik Wesslau, European Council on Foreign Relations - “What's a secure Russian border? One...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    DOES anyone ever question WHY some western MSM journalists seem to always appear at Russian propaganda events invited and cleared by the Russians and Assad to report the Assad/Putin version of events BUT NEVER seem to make it to the rebel side of the Syrian war?

    SO just how much do they get for their reporting efforts and what kind of hotels and free flight did they get??????


    THIS particular journalist has never reported from the rebel side BUT a lot from the Assad side.....

    Dan Rivers ‏@danriversitv 1h
    1 hour ago
    Mortar lands right where buses were parked - buses had moved though due to gunfire

    Buses ready to 'evacuate' civilians from east - so far no one has crossed. A rebel mortar just landed 50 ft from us. No injuries thank God.

    Syrian APC broadcasts message telling people in east they will ensure their safe passage. So far no one has crossed

    Bakery we filmed yesterday totally destroyed at crossing point Bustan al Qasr - rebel rockets lying nearby

    ITV News
    Verified account
    ‏@itvnews
    Mortar fire in Aleppo as 'humanitarian pause' begins - our news editor @jonathanwalditn's hotel window has been hit
    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-...egins/#…

    IF one takes the time to really go through this particular twitter feed from the journalist....when he talks about the rebel mortar rounds HE truly failed in the same breath to talk and the Assad Shia/Hezbollah ground attacks over the last week through this exact area....

    FAIR AND BALANCED...seriously doubt it...fair and balanced is determined by who is paying these days NOT by the "truth".....

    ITV has been called out a number of times for be a paid proAssad mouthpiece in certain articles.....


    EXAMPLE....there are countless smuggle routes into eastern Aleppo..WHY did this journalist not take the risk upon himself and see and experience at first hand the sheer Russian bombing destruction just 500 meters away from where he was standing...THAT he did not but he can talk about a "rebel mortar round landing nearby"....

    That would be true "combat journalism" not "invited tourist journalism".....
    BTW....if this journalist was knowledgeable about the Russian bombing campaign ongoing in eastern Aleppo ....THE bakery he was talking about HAD been hit by a Russian air strike NOT by fighting and or a rebel mortar round.....end of story and I am not in Aleppo as he is.....

    Comments concerning that air strike hitting the bakery were in fact posted here the day it happened and he is just getting to the idea of writing about it...THREE/FOUR days later......THAT is exactly why many people feel that MSM has basically fallen off the cliff in their quality of information and writing.
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    Anne Applebaum

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    when I first spoke about "Putinism" in 2008, much of the audience thought I was exagerrating
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nji0osPfefM#

    https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/sta...7678526894080#

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