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    IMPORTANT

    Number of troops-carrying rail cars booked by Russian army to Belarus

    2015: 125
    2016: 50
    2017: 4126 (!)

    http://www.defence24.pl/498941,wielk...baza-wojskowa#
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    Report: Russian fighters suffered heavy losses (18 KIA), when caught in a crossfire with Ukr forces near Kryms'ke
    https://inforesist.org/boeviki-pones...uganshhine/?f#

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    Russian proxies expel Czech aid group from Donetsk and capture its storage
    http://24today.net/open/706546

    Russian mercenaries must be getting short of food supplies to I they made this move...
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    Toretsk remains cut off water supply as militants & Russ JCCC members don't guarantee workers safety. - Zhebrivsky.
    http://novosti.dn.ua/news/263804-tor...k-zhebryvskyy#

    Interesting position taken by the Russian JCCC which is suppose to be neutral OR at least they claim they are neutral and for protecting the locals.....

    THIS is a town the mercenaries and Russian artillery have been attempting to take over...NOTICE the use of denying/destroying critical infrastructure for the local civilians ...JUST as in Syria.....
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    Russia Opens Criminal Case Against Ukrainian Military Commanders
    http://www.rferl.org/a/28143416.html

    Interesting is that Russia somehow thinks it has judicial control over Ukraine...will then Ukraine open criminal investigations of Lavrov and Putin the General of the Russian General Staff

    BUT WAIT...Russia quit the ICC after the ICC stated that yes Russia had committed war crimes in Crimea and by extension eastern Ukraine...

    So in theory Ukraine could bring war crimes charges against Putin in the ICC as Ukraine is a member of ICC by treaty.

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    Hacktivists uncovered Russian marine taking part in Donbas war:
    https://informnapalm.org/en/hacktivi...t-donbas-war/#

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    Mark Galeotti @MarkGaleotti
    'Hybrid War or Gibridnaya Voina? Getting #Russia’s non-linear military challenge right'
    New report of mine out today
    https://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.c...llenge-right/#

    Well worth reading.....…

    I’m today releasing a report of mine,#Hybrid War or Gibridnaya Voina?#Getting Russia’s non-linear military challenge right that, as the title suggests, explores the whole issue of Russia’s non-linear challenge to the West and make recommendations about possible responses. It is not the last word, of course, and is as much as anything else written to try and further the debate. A key point I do make is that I feel what we tend to call Russian ‘hybrid warfare’ (it’s not the best term, but we seem to be stuck with it at the moment) is not only that not special in Russian eyes, but in many ways ought perhaps to be considered as two similar but distinct ways of wielding similar instruments: as a preparatory stage before proper kinetic warfare operations (‘hybrid war’) and as a purely non-kinetic variety of aggravated and confrontational diplomacy (‘political war’). Ukraine faced the former, the West the latter. Either way, these are wars…

    The point of trying to understand this threat is to respond to it, and the final part presents a series of observations and re-commendations for Western policy. The aim must be deterrence if possible, but such is the nature of this diffuse and undeclared form of war that this will often be by denial—developing ‘hybrid defenses’—and the right mix of forces ready for a conflict that could as easily be fought in cyberspace or the courts as on the battlefield.

    Nor is this simply a threat that will subside as and when Putin’s regime implodes or subsides, however inevitable this undoubtedly is. There are other revisionist powers in the world and likely to emerge. ‘Hybrid war’ is a convenient and catchy term, even if of questionable scholarly rigor, but if anything it simply reflects the way conflict is evolving, and the sooner the West adapts to the Russian challenge, the better it will also be positioned to face the one coming next after that.
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    Incredible. 21 of 35: Russian artillerymen of the 7th Military Base involved in shelling of #Ukraine identified from Russian 2014 invasion
    https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-...ilitary-base/#

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    Ukrainian hackers release video, claiming they hacked a military commander of illegally occupied Donbass
    https://youtu.be/6yqG10tcI9k

    Senator Igor Morozov on new Russian thinking: "West should make Poroshenko fulfill all of Minsk. If US joins, process can go even faster."

    Two days ago #Crimea artists played a concert in #Kyiv.
    When they tried to return home, #Russia's FSB arrested them
    http://15minut.org/news/166309-fsb-r...obnovlyaetsya#

    Krymske, 50 km NW from Luhansk - Russian-led forces used all types of arms including the prohibited, in the intensive battle Nov 28, 4pm-6pm
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    The hottest fighting spot of the #Mariupol sector is #Shyrokyne village...everyday major ground fighting is ongoing....with heavy shelling's

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    I spoke to a participant of the #Minsk talks recently & learnt about the concept of current German "#HybridDiplomacy".
    Shocking.
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    "No accord reached on withdrawal of Russian troops and mercenaries from the Donbas"

    Russia didn't agree to any of key priorities set out in the talks. We had different opinions on how a roadmap to peace would work

    Klimkin shows to Normandy Four in Minsk picture of Russian UAV, its flight route over Ukraine
    http://www.unian.info/politics/16515...-ukraine.html#
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    Russia warns #Kyiv that there will be a military response if #Ukraine carries out scheduled missile tests
    https://goo.gl/cpRIV1

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    Russia threatens Ukraine with missile strike if Ukraine pursues with drills
    http://www.unian.info/war/1652361-ru...ea-media.html#

    Interestingly Russia can conduct military drills right up next to the Ukrainian border but whoa be it that Ukraine conducts military exercises next to their borders....THEN Russia believes it has the right to tell a nation state what it can and or cannot do....

    Ukraine announced tests with air-to-air missiles W. of Crimea, Thurs. & Friday. Moscow angry, says it contacted ICAO
    http://tass.com/defense/915234

    ICAO is a UN organisation. The UN hasn't recognized Russia's annexation of Crimea. Formally the airspace over/near Crimea still is Ukrainian
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    Defense Ministry says 55,000 Russian troops are massing near the Ukrainian border
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/30-nove...an-troops-are#

    BUT UAF cannot fire air to air rockets??????

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    Alleged no-fly zone declared by Ukraine for Dec 1.-2. missile test
    pic.twitter.com/GOFgBcmW7J
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/29-nove...raine-for-dec#

    Clearly....cleanly and correctly announced missile firing exercise and yet Russia goes ballistic...wonder why?????

    TASS' MoD source claims #Ukraine missile test is a PR trick but they take as clear & present threat, went into full combat readiness.


    DOES Russia really want to provoke an all out war.....you have to think someone in Moscow is in control of their propaganda and or they seriously think they can go to war....by attacking launch sites clearly registered and announced is a clear violation of all OSCE rules...and treaties....

    Russian MoD send protest to #Ukraine MoD on Nov 26th 2016 where they said 1) will intercept any missiles 2) will destroy all launch sites.
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    Russia pushed S-300VM SAM to Crimea
    pic.twitter.com/OSRCqu4UKA
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/29-nove...sam-to-crimea#
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    Default RE: Ukraine SAM test in Black Sea

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Alleged no-fly zone declared by Ukraine for Dec 1.-2. missile test
    pic.twitter.com/GOFgBcmW7J
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/29-nove...raine-for-dec#

    Clearly....cleanly and correctly announced missile firing exercise and yet Russia goes ballistic...wonder why?????

    TASS' MoD source claims #Ukraine missile test is a PR trick but they take as clear & present threat, went into full combat readiness.


    DOES Russia really want to provoke an all out war.....you have to think someone in Moscow is in control of their propaganda and or they seriously think they can go to war....by attacking launch sites clearly registered and announced is a clear violation of all OSCE rules...and treaties....

    Russian MoD send protest to #Ukraine MoD on Nov 26th 2016 where they said 1) will intercept any missiles 2) will destroy all launch sites.
    According to the BBC:

    But on Thursday, the Russian Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsia) said the boundaries of the danger zones had been moved to the west, "outside the borders of the Russian Federation", according to Interfax news agency.
    A Ukrainian military official said the exercises were being carried out at least 30km (19 miles) from Crimean air space and in accordance with international law.
    "Therefore it would be wrong to reproach Ukraine," Volodymyr Kryzhanovsky told the Ukrainian 112 TV Channel.
    Do you know what types of SAMs Ukraine is testing?

    According to Wikipedia, Ukraine has 8 S-300VI and ~90 S-300PS which are being gradually upgraded, so is it a test of the upgrades or to shake the dust off some old systems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    According to the BBC:



    Do you know what types of SAMs Ukraine is testing?

    According to Wikipedia, Ukraine has 8 S-300VI and ~90 S-300PS which are being gradually upgraded, so is it a test of the upgrades or to shake the dust off some old systems?
    Searching...will get you an answer....

    UPDATE: 16 missiles launched in Ukraine's exercises today. Exercises finished for today, will resume tomorrow.

    Ukrainian Mindef published images of today's missile launches
    http://liveuamap.com/en/2016/1-decem...issile#… via @krymrealii

    Armed Forces of #Ukraine reveal details about the upcoming #missile exercise
    http://112.international/ukraine-top...3.html#…

    Ukraine holds air def drills near #Russia-held #Crimea. Previous drills held INSIDE Crimea:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnJPXi9gIp8#
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWbtu7LtNk#
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    Russia now using drones from Taganrog airbase. Presumably to monitor Ukrainian positions in #Mariupol sector.
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