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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NOTICE the Russian FM never talks about the military and security trust building measures inside Minsk 2 THAT MUST be in place before the political measures can be implemented....

    NOTICE he never talks about the total withdrawal of ALL Russian troops from eastern Ukraine....OR the total and complete disbanding and disarming of ALL Russian mercenary forces.....OT a TOTAL and complete ALL for ALL POW exchange OR the full and complete return of Ukrainian control to the Ukrainian border NOW under Russian military control......

    IF one is to implement his demands BOTH Russia and her mercenaries WOULD NEVER get around to implementing the required security/military measures....AND the so called political goals would in fact give Russian mercenaries veto rights over anything the rest of the Ukraine wants to do....ie to join NATO and the EU....

    http://www.unian.info/politics/16120...h-ukraine.html

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    NOTICE the last sentence....Ukraine has never forbidden the speaking and use of the Russian language....heck a large majority of Ukrainians outside eastern Ukraine speak Russian....

    SO exactly what was the Russian FM talking about here??????
    FM Lavrov says #Russia wants settlement in east #Ukraine. Russian/separatist forces could start by observing ceasefire, withdrawing weapons.

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    Dokuchaevsk @whicard5 "result of yday battle: separatists lost control over former #FIP's premises" 47°45'24"N 37°38'43"E

    Heavy Russian attacks are now underway along the Minsk 2 front line....

    Lot's of fighting reports from eastern #Ukraine today. Many of them describe heavy artillery.

    16:15 [#Dokuchaevsk] @rjpthju41ljytwr [ok.ru] #Olenivka: something horrible happens, everything shudders in #Lyubivka

    16:20 #Donetsk @rjpthju41ljytwr [ok.ru]
    #Trudovski: battle
    #Petrovka, #Tykhyi:serious ongoing battle
    #mine31, #Kirovskyi: claps like thunder

    18:46 #Donetsk @666_mancer [fb] "So far in #Staromykhaylivka they had some rest & battle there" "Fr/#Tekstilschik howitzers are shelling?"

    20:23 #Marinka @coshelewalara "So suddenly, I was barely just in time to basement. Heavy incoming rounds were there"

    20:38 #Svitlodarsk Bulge @Helgi__UA Duel

    20:40 #Novhorodske @subwayriwer "So far they started to attack our right side with heavy weapons. Close (to me) battle resumed"

    20:41 #Avdiivka @rechnikato Incoming rounds

    20:43 #Horlivka #Stroitel @ahab9889 #Shyroka_Balka: all hell broke loose

    21:10 #Marinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] they boom and shoot. More noise in #sovkhoz direction

    21:17 #Donetsk @KarachentsovU Intensity of f*cking local battle decreased a bit...

    Possible MLRS Grad shelling of #Ukrainian positions near Toretsk, also 152mm artillery pounding
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 11-08-2016 at 07:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Dokuchaevsk @whicard5 "result of yday battle: separatists lost control over former #FIP's premises" 47°45'24"N 37°38'43"E

    Heavy Russian attacks are now underway along the Minsk 2 front line....

    Lot's of fighting reports from eastern #Ukraine today. Many of them describe heavy artillery.

    16:15 [#Dokuchaevsk] @rjpthju41ljytwr [ok.ru] #Olenivka: something horrible happens, everything shudders in #Lyubivka

    16:20 #Donetsk @rjpthju41ljytwr [ok.ru]
    #Trudovski: battle
    #Petrovka, #Tykhyi:serious ongoing battle
    #mine31, #Kirovskyi: claps like thunder

    18:46 #Donetsk @666_mancer [fb] "So far in #Staromykhaylivka they had some rest & battle there" "Fr/#Tekstilschik howitzers are shelling?"

    20:23 #Marinka @coshelewalara "So suddenly, I was barely just in time to basement. Heavy incoming rounds were there"

    20:38 #Svitlodarsk Bulge @Helgi__UA Duel

    20:40 #Novhorodske @subwayriwer "So far they started to attack our right side with heavy weapons. Close (to me) battle resumed"

    20:41 #Avdiivka @rechnikato Incoming rounds

    20:43 #Horlivka #Stroitel @ahab9889 #Shyroka_Balka: all hell broke loose

    21:10 #Marinka @hyeva_maryinka [vk] they boom and shoot. More noise in #sovkhoz direction

    21:17 #Donetsk @KarachentsovU Intensity of f*cking local battle decreased a bit...

    Possible MLRS Grad shelling of #Ukrainian positions near Toretsk, also 152mm artillery pounding
    BREAKING: Video of intense shelling in #Dokuchaevsk tonight:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTrVeycLeg#

    21:36 #Dokuchaevsk @whicard5 How much I heard, there was no such density. Before there were pauses, not one constant non-stop salvo

    Reports of heavy fighting and military movement #ATO with intense battle in #Dokuchajevsk
    More reports of military movements tonight:

    Some pro Russian accounts going nuts talking about intense Ukrainian shelling, pending offensive and the resumption of war
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 11-08-2016 at 08:43 PM.

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    Russian Armament in #Donbas: #InformNapalm’s Evidence Presented at #PACE
    https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-...esented-pace/#

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    As an American who has for the greater part of 50 years defended the US from enemies near and far under Presidents good and bad from both parties I now after watching a potential Trump presidency give up on my own country…..

    I had hoped that a change in US leadership would lead to resolutions of the Russian non linear warfare in eastern Ukraine and that war is as well being directed against the Baltics and Poland…..would have some new solutions for Syria and reigning in Iran in the ME and on how to confront an ever increasingly hostile Russia…..NOT to mention a very serious Russian cyber war we find ourselves currently in…..

    BUT a potential US President that alienates a religion of 3B individuals WHICH in turn actually supports the messaging narratives of both AQ and IS…….a President that thinks a “Wall” can resolve immigration……a President that does not even listen to his DNI intel briefings and assumes that the Russians did not hack the US……….a Presidnet that publicly belittled US Generals……a President that openly condones and will use torture…..a President that thinks he can be friends with Putin who has unleashed his non linear war directed against US global leadership….which is Putin’s stated goal……a President who had advisors tied directly to Russian black money and whatever the SVR has on Trump’s own weaknesses while he was often in Moscow…..a President that wants and states he will tear up existing trade agreements and does not believe in climate change…a President that does not believe in clean energy……...a President that states that he will not use Article 5 of NATO unless the attacked country has “paid up their dues” ………….AND a President that claimed he was against Iraq all the while publicly stating he was for it and a President that while I fought in VN for 18 very long months used a “bone spur” in his foot which he could never recall which foot four times to evade the draft…..AND a President who has never shown me his tax returns while I have been audited due to residing and working overseas…..

    ALL of this leads me to the simple question…..can I continue to defend the US as an American from enemies near and far??……the answer I am really sorry to say is no……

    I have for a number of reasons over the years had the ability to file for German citizenship and passport and never wanted to cut my ties to the US…..but if Trump is in fact the new President of the US I will drop off the citizenship request the second he is confirmed as the new US President…

    It is time to let the US be what it wants to be which I think it does not even know itself…..and enjoy the rest of my remaining life in a country that does socially care about it’s society and it’s positon inside Europe…..

    I will slowly disengage from the postings due to the simple fact that the new US President and his “best friend Putin” will resolve Syria an eastern Ukraine as well as the Baltics and Poland and all the commenting in the coming months will not change that…

    Have enjoyed the posting simply because I have learned a lot about Ukraine and Syria that was never in the text books nor in MSM….and have learned an extremely valuable lesson in Russian non linear warfare that I use daily in my internet security company….

    I have previously stated in a SWJ article comment……”people love populists until they take power”…

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    Minsk deal gone out the window in #Luhansk. Grad rockets, all kinds of banned artillery involved in battle at Kadiivka/Stakhanov #Ukraine

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    Defense Ministry: Militants were shelling Ukrainian positions in Stanytsia Luhanska over three hours non-stop

    Russia flashes Aistenok radar system in Donbas. PHOTOS
    http://dlvr.it/MfyXjH

    Russia Foreign Ministry's @Gorchakov_Fund was banned by #Ukraine for spreading Kremlin propaganda. Now their plants do it at @IntersectionEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Minsk deal gone out the window in #Luhansk. Grad rockets, all kinds of banned artillery involved in battle at Kadiivka/Stakhanov #Ukraine
    Maryinka ~9PM Still ongoing, heavy incoming fire in the Sovkhoz area, reportedly house hit on Shevchenko str.

    19:58 Towards #Maryinka active skirmish, ka-booms and shooting.

    20:35 #Donetsk Petrovka - outgoing fire from mine 21 or forestry area.

    Russian 'Smerch' Cluster Munition fired at Berezove village near Mariinka but failed to explode.
    http://uatoday.tv/crime/russian-smer...ap-805459.html
    Last edited by OUTLAW 09; 11-14-2016 at 07:56 PM.

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