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    Charles Lister

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    "Trump’s term may be the beginning of America’s fragmentation & its breakup”

    - Al-Qaeda celebrates #Trump victory:

    http://mme.cm/GSBW00

    Notwithstanding internal U.S divisions, if a Trump foreign policy prioritizes ‘strongmen’ allies, Al-Qaeda will get an unimaginable boost.

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    I am back into posting here as I was right where the Trump Syrian policy was going....he has as well as his surrogates stated they want to do joint operations with BOTH Assad a proven genocidal dictator who is currently using CWs and Putin against IS.......

    THIS will be one of the biggest blunders from Trump if done for years going forth..he will have been responsible for driving 100,000 armed and experienced urban warfare moderate Syrian FSA fighters into the welcoming arms of JFS (AQ) AND IS as they will have seen that the US has no interest in kicking out Assad and is in a bromance with Putin....

    THIS move will certainly ensure fighting in the ME for the next 20 odd years and not to say provoke a response from KSA...Qatar..GCC. and Turkey....NOT LEAST Israel who informed Russian via their PM visit this week Israel will not tolerate Iran inside Syria....as they have Hezbollah on one border already and they do not want Iran on the Golan Heights border...

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    4 #RUSSIAN BUNKER BUSTERS on our hospital just now! Lost underground operating room, £60k equipment, 3 ambulances, medication warehouse!

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    One-Hundred Years of Fear: America Has Abdicated Its Leadership of the West
    http://spon.de/aeRLF via @SPIEGELONLINE

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    Charles Lister ‏@Charles_Lister

    My brief comments on jihadist perceptions of #Trump’s victory in the U.S., plus implications for the region:

    http://www.mei.edu/content/article/m...gn-policy-team … #Syria

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    Donald Trump Likely to End Aid for Rebels Fighting Syrian Government
    By DAVID E. SANGERNOV. 11, 2016
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/wo...ump-syria.html

    Military aid to rebels financed & delivered by regional sunni powers, what happens next is a test for GCC-Turk ties.

    This could also force all factions including JFS and FSA to unite and fully merge when the moderate-radical limitations becomes irrelevant

    THIS means 100,000 rebel fighters merging into JFS.....

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    Future Trump FP being driven by cash.......????

    Trump’s Top Military Adviser Is Lobbying For Obscure Company With Ties To Turkish Government

    Flynn wrote an op-ed on Tues. calling for extradition of Fethullah Gulen. It was a curious piece and unusual for a former DIA Director..........


    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/tr...ser-is-lobbyin...

    An intelligence consulting firm founded by retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump’s top military adviser, was recently hired as a lobbyist by an obscure Dutch company with ties to Turkey’s government and its president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    The revelation of that new lobbying contract, which has not been previously reported, raises several questions given that Trump is said to be considering Flynn, the former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), to take over as either Secretary of Defense or National Security Advisor.

    It also raises questions about disclosure.

    Flynn wrote an op-ed for The Hill on Tuesday, just before Trump’s stunning upset of Hillary Clinton, in which he heaped praise on Erdogan and called on the next president, whoever that would be, to accede his request to extradite the U.S.-based Muslim cleric Fethullah Gülen back to Turkey
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    Putin Says France 'Deceived' Russia On Syrian UN Resolution - Likely False
    http://bit.ly/2eyKRWB

    US info warfare on its self hard at work......fake site could though not be tracked so it could have come from outside the US
    Google's top news link for 'final election results' goes to a fake news site with false numbers
    http://wpo.st/4xBE2
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    Gentlemen:

    Once Trump assumes that presidency in January, how will the Free Syrian Army be impacted?

    My impression of the current situation is that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are supplying the weapons to the FSA (including the TOWs), and the CIA's role is to vet those units that are being supplied.

    If Trump terminates the CIA operation, it is reasonable to assume that Doha and Riyadh may increase their support for the rebels and do so in an unconstrained manner, supported by Ankara and Amman.

    While Clinton would have imposed a no-fly zone over Aleppo possibly, Trump may well prove less restrictive in practice than Obama...

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Gentlemen:

    Once Trump assumes that presidency in January, how will the Free Syrian Army be impacted?

    My impression of the current situation is that Saudi Arabia and Qatar are supplying the weapons to the FSA (including the TOWs), and the CIA's role is to vet those units that are being supplied.

    If Trump terminates the CIA operation, it is reasonable to assume that Doha and Riyadh may increase their support for the rebels and do so in an unconstrained manner, supported by Ankara and Amman.

    While Clinton would have imposed a no-fly zone over Aleppo possibly, Trump may well prove less restrictive in practice than Obama...

    Thoughts?
    Azor...interesting questions that some here at SWJ do not really want to discuss.....to fully understand Trumps FP one must discuss Trump himself and what has he stated during say not the campaign but even earlier..WHAT you hear from Trump is what you get....and people do not take that serious enough...they just think it was campaign rhetoric....

    1. first concern is the serious CI question hanging directly over Trump and a number of his advisors past and current...

    If you thoroughly and some here at SWJ did not want to go down that road. Thoroughly look at the period 2008 and 2012..Trump shifted and shifted hard to a proRussian stance on a number of things...in exactly the 2012/2013 timeframe when he was in Russia SO one must actually ask the core question.... WHY the shift and for what reasons when the RP has had a strong counter Russian policy since Reagan.

    2. take the Ukraine....he shifted with direct influence the RP Platform on Ukraine from what the RP Congressional side wanted...strong support to Ukraine to a position matching exactly what Putin has been stating and then he and his campaign when confronted with the sudden shift denied as usual that they were behind it.....

    3. he then stated the same exact Russian position in numerous rallies and debates

    4. he strictly avoided meeting with the Ukrainian President during the recent UNGA when all candidates were pushing for photo ops..CHECK his statements on the Russian military annexation of Crimea..."he stated I can see me recognizing the Russian Crimea referendum".....CHECK his statements on the continued need to sanction Russia.."he can see eliminating those sanctions"....

    5. take his position now on Syria ..your original question...you can match exactly what Putin has been pushing since their first proposal to work jointly with the US against supposedly IS to the exact same statements made repeatedly by Trump.

    Trump is a perfect fit to the same Russian position even down to potentially fully supporting the Kurdish drive for statehood...AND check his comments on Israel and the Palestrian's where he stated he will move the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

    He wants to fight IS jointly with ASSAD and Putin...will he go down that path? Check my first comments...he is for some strange reasons joined at the hip of Putin and the question is why....

    If the US pulls it's connections ...one you have great resistance right now inside DoD to work jointly with Russia with good reason....IMHO I do believe the CIA has the same security concerns a number of current and former CI types have....Trump has been compromised during his 2012/2013 trips to Moscow and his great reliance on Russian oligarch monies and his 249 Trump companies inside Russia.

    This concern was voiced by two former CIA/NSA Directors who went even further than I do and they called Trump directly "a Russian agent of influence"....buzz words for "he has been badly compromised security wise"....

    BUT actually it might not be so bad for the anti Assad forces...as the Obama group has been influencing the delivery of TOWs/MANPADs and that restriction would come off and the rebels have been easily getting them into Syria....

    Secondly...what has been strange is that Israel flatly told the Russian PM when he was just in Israel....Iran out of Syria BUT then we hear that while Trump wants to cancel the Iran Deal...which is dead anyway because Iran has seriously violated several critical parts....recently again confirmed by UNSC KSA wants the agreement held in place...WHY...I think the KSA is fearful that they will have to then drive to develop a nuclear counterweight to Iran and then you have an instant nuclear arms race...remember KSA does not have to develop one they just purchase one from Pakistan which that have supported for years in their nuclear developments....

    With the US out of the picture then KSA..Qatar and their other Sunni sponsors are free to drive fully against Assad....question is what is the Turkish position and how much financial support does Erdogan then gets from the Sunni Front States....

    There has been a floating rumor among the FSA groups that Turkey and Russia have "an agreement on Aleppo"...meaning Russia "allows Turkey to control the entire border area blacking the YPG/PKK in exchange for giving up Aleppo to Assad"...do not believe this as Aleppo has always been a red line publicly stated by Turkey....

    Without US involvement the rebels and their sponsors are then free to drive against Assad which the US has under Obama been basically blocking for the last two years...something the Russians do not want...

    The biggest problem though for Trump is he hangs himself onto Putin is that he would be highly successful in driving approx. 100,000 relatively well trained and combat experienced fighters into the open arms of JFS (AQ) and that would not be the "victory he promised the Trump supporters"....

    You can sense the mutual joy by both IS and AQ in the Trump election..in one fall swoop Trump has confirmed their propaganda narrative about the West and the US and they both feel vindicated in their fight against the West and the US.....

    Again my central concern is the Trump Russian connection and is the President of the US CI wise badly compromised to the point that US FP is Russian FP....

    Just my opinion.....BTW back to the Trump security clearance and access issue...Trump announced that his entire businesses all 500 of them will be placed into a blind trust run by his family...and that will guarantee surely he does not hear a thing about the businesses for four long years...come on....

    NOW he wants TS/SCI clearances for the exact same family members....IF you have been either in the military and or government TS/SCI and being read on is strictly on a need to know basis.....so are they also going to participate in his intelligence briefings and decisions AND at the same time not talk to him at all about his 500 businesses????

    Also I posted initially on the Trump thread that got shut down the fact that while he was bashing Muslims daily in his rallies and debates HE via back channels informed Araba countries..." do not pay attention to the anti Muslim Arab rhetoric it is just campaigning rhetoric"...WHY because he has a lot of businesses in the entire ME and needs their investment monies to finance his so called empire because he is cut off from US banks...SO will in the end will his businesses determine his FP...IMHO I truly think so....BUT did he state that to his supporters and hundreds of rallies..no he did not....he just kept on bashing Muslims....

    BUT again why do his children need TS/SCI clearances????

    BTW..this goes in general for other FP areas and Trump.....

    Chinese activists fear they will be forgotten as reality show president prepares extreme makeover of US-China ties
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ical-roadkill#

    QUOTE from social media....
    And they're still running his businesses -- so he's giving his businesses free access to trillions in dollars of American intelligence.

    AZOR...this is in fact a serious issue inadvertently raised.....there are tons of business and economic intelligence passed on a daily basis from embassies around the world AND Trumps has over 500 businesses worldwide...
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    What a @realDonaldTrump Presidency Means for the Middle East. @ACmideast→
    http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs...e-middle-east#

    Russia Is About To Send $10 Billion Worth Of Weapons To The Leading State Sponsor Of Terrorism –
    http://defconwarningsystem.com/2016/...of-terrorism/#

    My @NewStatesman analysis on what the Kremlin wants from the first Trump-Putin summit.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/world/eu...eady-big-deal#

    AZOR....this is a serious concern for me personally as I have been posting repeatedly on the Ukraine thread from the very beginning....PUTIN wants badly a Yalta 2.0 agreement giving him total "influence over eastern and western Europe" and that is then recognized officially by the US".....that has been his goal since Georgia...Moldavia and now eastern Ukraine/Crimea .....he has been pushing and pushing the EU and Obama to do just such a deal.....SINCE 2006 he and his FM have repeatedly stated they wanted to see an economic region under Russian "influence" from Portugal to the Russian Far East and both have never come off of this "dream"...WITH Trump they see this as now being possible....WITH Clinton it would have never happened in their lifetimes....

    If you think that this is not possible go back to the Trump statements about his abilities to do deals and then seriously relook Trumps Russian comments since 2012...THIS deal is coming.....

    THIS confirms the Russian drift inside Trump's inner circle and one has to wonder why that is so...WHEN the Reagan RP has a clear vision of the Russian threat to the US.......?

    Giuliani thinks Russia's invasions of its neighbors (Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova) and aggression against the Baltics, etc. etc are our fault?

    Giuliani is rumored to be the coming next DoS...REMEMBER it was Guiliaini who in fact leaked the additional Clinton emails two full days before the FBI announcement about more emails.....as he has deep friends still inside the FBI and the FBI Director worked for the Giuliani law firm before becoming FBI director...
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    HOPE Trump who loves social media is tracking his in his transition team's Trump Tower that he is billing you the taxpayer for....

    THESE are his future partners HARD AT WORK fighting IS that he wants to work with?????

    BREAKING
    #ALEPPO RIGHT NOW.
    Yeah, world! Let's support #Putin in #Syria! Will help for sure.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoNiK8A5dzE#…
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    Russian information warfare hard at work and Trump does not seem to mind since a 1/3rd of the tweets supporting him come from a Russian company in Macedonia......he is overly impressed it seems by numbers and seems to never question if a real person is behind that tweet.....

    Telling.
    Only 1699 of the 5000+ accounts I blocked are still active.
    Gives you an idea about professional & automated trolling accounts.
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    TOTALLY forgot this.....went back and dug it out of the past

    Giuliani was kicked off Iraq Study Grp bc missed meetings to give paid speeches. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...all_dt_tw_top#
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 11-19-2016 at 05:00 PM.

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    Open challenge to anyone who voted for Trump and who follows SWJ on a regular basis...CARE to comment????

    Bolton: Britain leaving the EU will strengthen Nato because together US and UK will "sort the Europeans out." Not exactly sure I follow his thinking here...BUT he is pushing for DoS...
    If this is any indication of the coming Trump FP...WE are all in trouble....

    Not a fan of Ron Paul.....but in this case I fully and massively agree with him....

    Rand Paul slams John Bolton as potential secretary of state: 'The man is a menace' http://read.bi/2eX7Zt5
    Last edited by davidbfpo; 11-19-2016 at 05:01 PM.

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