The Trump impact on US policy

[OUTLAW 09]

I was watching Sky Europe at 0230 in the morning here in Berlin after the election and there was a US Political Science Professor and an voter analyst that at around 0430 stated that if the local voting counts came in as he was seeing them that in fact it might be possible that both Trump and Clinton tie at 269 to 269...

The Sky moderator waved off his comments in a hurry BUT he remained leery the entire evening about the incoming numbers as being accurate....

BUT two of the media outlets driving the early "wins for each state" were Fox and Sky...both owned by the same media owner and Conservative....

THERE are still a large number of votes that are coming in...and absentee ballots that have not be counted as well as a lot of local recounts and military votes that have not been counted and the popular vote numbers are actually increasing non the Clinton side not the Trump side and AP has YET to call who won four major US states....

THEN this today from AP...if actually when all the ballots are finally counted WHAT if it is actually a tie...THEN it goes to Congress which will then still vote for Trump...

BUT then what is his and the Republican "legitimacy" to claim then to the people they have a "mandate" to do as they please???? WHEN the electoral College was a tie BUT the popular vote went the opposite direction????

Updated#| As of Thursday, three states remain electoral toss-ups, according to Associated Press projections: New Hampshire, Michigan and Arizona. If Hillary Clinton wins the combined 31 electoral votes from those states, she will still be short of Donald Trump’s 279 votes, more than the 270 needed to win the presidency.
However, AP analyst Michael McDonald, who teaches political science at the University of Florida and runs the United States Elections Project, an election statistics website, says he is skeptical that Trump won Wisconsin, as the AP projected. If that state flips for Clinton#and she wins the other toss-up states, she and Trump could be in a tie at 269 votes each.

BTW...there are still countless recounts STILL ongoing that are constantly changing the final numbers and the popular vote count for Clinton has actually been climbing and Trump's as remained rather constant...

[OUTLAW 09]

This was TONIGHT. And he's not campaigning, doing some schtick to rile his "base".
This is simply who he is AND YES even his own voters stated they knew his "baggage" BUT were comfortable with it.

Now imagine him in office.
With the full power of state surveillance at his whim and the ability to imprison without due process.

If perhaps you're not concerned about the rights of free assembly and expression, let's look at freedom of the press.

During his campaign, Trump had media "blacklists" - journalists who were not allowed in his events because he didn't like their coverage.

In other words: he refused to respect freedom of the press even as a *candidate* - which was unprecedented.

He even called out a female journalist in front of an audience of many thousands and had the entire audience boo her. By name. In person

What do you imagine will stop him once he's POTUS from using the powers of the state to act out on his disdain and hatred for journalists?

AND he has voiced support for the same exact UK press liable laws to be able to sue at will any journalist article and or statements....

One of Trump's surrogates has already admitted the campaign is keeping a "list" of "enemies"..."enemies" meaning those that did not fully and completely support Trump...

What do you imagine will stop him once he's POTUS from using the powers of the state to act out on his disdain and hatred for journalists?

BOTH bush Presidents saw Donald Trump and his cadre as so dangerous and extremist they disavowed them.

What we're facing in 2017 is a perfect storm:
1. GOP controlled House, Senate, and White House.
2. SCOTUS openings.
3. POTUS Trump
4. No moral compass.

WE have seen this already by statements of his transition team that those that did not fully support Trump will not be hired AND his denial yesterday to allow the press to follow his WH visit yesterday AS he has a distain for the WH Press Corp...THAT he has voiced over the last four years.....

WHAT is amazing is just how fast the press and journalists have finally after a long number of years "has gone against Trump"

WHAT TRUMP has vastly underestimated is the power of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) WHICH now he faces as a government employee....he must respond to and provide everything asked for or end up in court defending why not....and the Press has stated to dig and dig and dig in his past business deals...and his financial contacts to China and Russia...

THIS is the real reason Clinton had her own private email server ...to sidestep FOIA....

BTW.....Like Putin, Trump suggests protesters are being paid.
This destruction of property and violence is what the President-elect wants to see. It will give him a reason later to crackdown and introduce federal laws against demonstrations on anything...

One of the first symptoms of autocratic regimes is the paranoia that all protests are "professional". Good morning.

"Trump's electorate did not take his racism/mysoginism/threats seriously, unlike us", muse soul-searching pundits. BASED ON WHAT EVIDENCE?

IMHO the Trump supporters did fully and seriously take what Trump stated as evidence he would act on what he stated at his rallies..JUST the MSM did not....

[OUTLAW 09]

Slapout.....this is just how fast a "democratic country" can in fact slide into a fascist state and in the US that slide with be with a "friendly smile" achieved under the guise of voters who thought they were democratically electing change......AND WHO in the end failed to stop smell the coffee and question truly question the comments...statements and actions of their candidate before voting......

You did know for example that in his 30 years he has either sued and or been sued 3000 times...that is 100 per year or ONE in about EVERY THREE DAYS OR that he has rumored outstanding debt loans from Chinese Banks and Russian oligarch black monies WHICH is exactly why he did not release his taxes over the last 15 years....OR that he has right now over 75 active law cases in both federal and state courts filed against him...for rape...fraud.....and criminal racketeering corruption charges....YET Clinton was the criminal in his rallies...

IN one active case he has yet to provide a court ordered disposition in person AS to WHY a company of his he owns DESTROYED over 4000 internal emails that pertained to the active fraud court case....WAS this exactly what he stated Clinton had done and should go to jail for.....????

BTW the Plaintiffs lawyer claimed publicly that his lawyers argued this week in Federal Court that since he is now President the case must be dismissed...Federal Judge..."sorry occurred before becoming President so he is sorry on the hook for the charges and trial...."

IMAGINE a sitting President just elected being hauled in front of a Federal Court for fraud and criminal racketeering charges?????

AND YET no one cared... AND we have those that have won cases against him who had to sign non disclosure statements about their cases state his wealth is not much to begin with...YET he claims he is a billionaire....

BUT WAIT until Trump is forced to reveal all via Freedom of Information Act requests that are being lined up to start on 20 Jan2017...then tell me his voters were right about their candidate....

BTW..if you and or I had done all of the above we would never even get a US Government Confidential Clearance approved...they might laugh at us for even attempting to get a clearance

[OUTLAW 09]

CONCUR with this as it is what I has both seen and heard in my line of work from others who handle hacking events especially from the Russian state sponsored side and what I have heard as a serious possibility being voiced by European security specialists PRIOR to the US election... as it is a serious concern for their elections as well which are IT based...

AND if one is open minded AND understands the seriousness of the Russian state sponsored hacking attacks against the DNC and Clinton THEN that might if one took the time to analyze all election software line for command line...MIGHT explain why is it that in hardcore Democratic precincts there were larger than normal numbers of Trump votes which the Democratic Party still does not understand..

Russian hackers entered US voting systems in summer.US hackers believe they downloaded malware to influence count

BTW...these US hackers are the same professional IT hacking experts that first discovered and proved BEFORE the entire US IC that Russian state sponsored hackers were hard at work inside the DNC ....THAT "Trump argues was a 400lb person sitting on his bed"....

[OUTLAW 09]

European officials scared they're next. Crowdstrike says DNC hackers attempted intrusions on 12 EU organizations, a few successful ones.

New York Times Ohio election results. Votes for Trump between these 2 counties

The numbers for MO are off and I'm not alone in thinking so. Margins were the tell. Each state should be examined

What is it about the margin in MO that leads you to this? I see something weird 1 county in OH

The whole thing needs investigating including colluding w/foreign govt during campaign

BTW...when the US hacking specialist group Crowdstrike speaks about this THEN the entire Federal Security and IC community needs to stand up and show the public they are serious about defending the US from Russian cyber attacks........

[OUTLAW 09]

BTW...from my company and from others I know there were a large number of highly qualified US hackers were working within DoJ and independently to monitor all electronic activity pertaining to the IT driven and based election devices...and from encrypted chatter ongoing during that time indicated strong outside activities and strange unanswered ways the software was acting and it's reported results....not across the board by scattered county by county so as to not wake up monitors....AND always in RED counties driving up the numbers and in selected BLUE counties in swing states driving down the Democratic numbers.

ACTUALLY can and could be instantly proven if in fact the electronic tallies are officially and completely compared to the actual paper ballots....both Anonymous and Crowdstrike are of the opinion you will see the divergence....

Memo sent 4 am Nov. 9th to top HRC advisers based on info from US hackers protecting systems from Russia:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...520388#…

DOJ was also being supported by the Anonymous hacking group ....who along with Crowdstrike seriously think that there is a strong chance....not chance but actual Russian malware installed in many of the electronic IT driven software packages used across the US for the election and that these software packages MUST be checked for a specific malware program...

WHAT is now interesting is that when there is a Republican AG WILL the Republicans actually investigate these allegations or will it be leaking of those hackers involved to open up this can of worms????

[Bill Moore]

Outlaw,

Most of your criticism directed towards Trump is disappointingly true, but what you failed to address is we had two deeply flawed candidates, and if you think white males were the only ones who voted for Trump, you are mistaken. Setting Clinton's corruption and nasty character to the side for a moment, she still represented a system that is failing millions of Americans. There is more to being a President than foreign policy, which frankly Clinton's record in that area isn't exactly flawless.

As for fascism, I have no idea how Trump will walk back from his rhetoric of hatred that appealed to red neck America looking for someone to blame their problems on. However, accusing Trump of leading a fascist movement totally bypasses the fascism being implemented by our left for years in the form of political corectness. Independent thinking and free speech have been suppressed for years in our universities.

Frankly I'm glad America didn't accept the status quo. Unfortunately we only had Trump instead of a person of better character to oppose the left. The Republican Party will have to reform, or we will need a new party to represent centrist views sooner rather than later. We're in a sad place now, but this is no time to quit America, it is time to get engaged.

[OUTLAW 09]

My...my.. a tad to late for buyers remorse it seems...

"Hope he's not so bad" continues a mitigating reinterpretation of Trump backers demanded during campaign despite his clear+odious language.

Trump Shows Every Sign of Carrying Out Sweeping Immigration Crackdown http://bloom.bg/2eGhpcm#

To media who played along with Trump to satisfy their audience needs & pretended he was credible--hope you are doing serious introspection.

Facebook must own up to its role in spreading toxic misinformation & chaos that got Trump elected
https://interc.pt/2fFBHY4#

The full story: 4.3M ballots uncounted in CA right now, likely that number grows in days to come...

[OUTLAW 09]

Yes, Trump victory is abhorrent and traumatic for Russian-Jewish immigrants. It's just too reminiscent of a world we thought we left behind.

Media must call out PROPAGANDISTS as Remnick does: Trump campaign, Bannon/alt-right press, won w/lies and PROPAGANDAhttp://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...-trump#…

[OUTLAW 09]

The Kremlin says Trump's foreign policy approach is 'phenomenally close' to Putin's:
http://reut.rs/2foEbaj

Khodorkovsky Center @mbk_center
So what's going to happen when the tycoon finally gets to meet the tsar?
http://www.khodorkovsky.com/the-art-of-the-deal/#
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