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    Reference the coming kleptocracy of Trump with his son-in-law.....

    As this graphic notes, so much Russian $$ pours into Trump in FL, "coastal Miami becomes Little Moscow"

    NEW Trump-Russia link: Son-in-law's $295M deal with Putin pal Lev Leviev, Soviet-born billionaire

    Kushner bought property from Leviev, Putin associate.

    Leviev formerly employed Rotem Rosen, the Trump SOHO investorPoint is Donald "no Russia ties" Trump lied, plus his advisers met with people on US sanctioned list

    Putin paid Manafort millions for Ukraine's Yanukovych's image makeover.

    Was Burnett paid for Trump's re-invention?

    Burnett met with Putin before re-inventing Trump in (Putin's?) "Apprentice" and now stage-managing his inauguration ....he was the one that blocked release of tapes from the filming of The Apprentice which were rumored to worse than the released 2005 video of Trump and his language towards women....

    2001 NYT article on how Mark Burnett, who reinvented Trump as reality star, is also tied to Putinhttp://partners.nytimes.com/library/...t.html#… (h/t @Khanoisseur)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    BOOM!.....ah the smell of cordite in the early morning air surrounds this.....
    IS this the conduit from Russian black money into the Trump businesses in the US??????

    Two Trump Companies Discovered In Cyprus, EU's Russian Off-Shore Banking Haven
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...shpmg00000004#

    Cyprus banking system almost went into bankruptcy due to the simple fact they were overly dependent on Russian black money....there are the two top Russian backs there as well....

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    "Trump will find most of his goals are out of reach of an America acting alone. Deals are no substitute for allies." https://www.ft.com/content/ae092214-...-680c49b4b4c0#
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    Ah...Carter Page again at work...was recently in Moscow.....

    Trump foreign policy aide tells Kremlin propaganda arm that US intel can't be trusted.
    https://www.rt.com/usa/373139-carter...odni-hacking/#

    WHEN he was in Moscow he claimed to have been a Trump advisor when he was not suppose to be one...as the Trump transition team was asked about his Moscow comments...they denied he was an advisor....

    Republican intel chairman Burr: "No reason to doubt" CIA/FBI/NSA findings that Russia intervened in the US election in favor of Trump.
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    Spencer Ackerman

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    Warner wants intel cmte to include in review "contact between the Russian government & its agents, & associates of any campaign & candidate"
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    Breaking News: Donald Trump wants Republicans to repeal Obamacare immediately and replace it "shortly thereafter"
    http://nyti.ms/2jfaGKa

    BUT WAIT...repeal health insurance for 20M US citizens and then replace it with what...the republicans have absolutely no a single plan on the table....

    SO the 20M plus just sit there with no insurance....?????

    BUT WAIT...the Trump transition team was pushing for no repeal until there was a full and complete insurance plan replacement in place...WHICH there is none....

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    If Congress pursues Trump's Russia ties/grooming, his casino money Here is the smoking gun: US Treasury fined Trump's casinos $10 million for "significant, long standing anti-money laundering violations"
    Wow. Sen. Wyden asks Comey whether FBI has investigated relationships between Trump associates & Russians. Comey won't say.

    Comey: evidence that hacking directed at state level orgs, campaigns and rnc, but old domains of rnc. info was harvested from there

    SO RNC was in fact hacked...BUT WAIT not a single email has been released on the RNC...so what do they fear being released.....

    Comey: There were intrusions at state-level voter registration databases. Purpose of intrusions not clear, but "no doubt" Russians took info

    FBI Director Comey says there was successful penetration of GOP groups/campaigns, esp on the state level, and on some RNC domains

    Spencer Ackerman

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    Comey says, re FBI investign Trump/Russia contacts, "I wd never comment on investigations whether open or not in a public forum" EYES EMOJI
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    Wow. Lindsey Graham asked Jeff Sessions if he believes Russia was responsible for hacking. Sessions won't answer.

    AND he is to be the AG of the US enforcing anti hacking laws....

    BUT WAIT.....this is like the Trump myth that it was a 400lb kid who hacked DNC......

    RU ambassador to US: "I wouldn't exclude that some trigger-happy hacker did hack .. but my country had nothing to do"
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    Trump Received Unsubstantiated Report That Russia Had Damaging Information About Him

    WASHINGTON — The chiefs of America’s intelligence agencies last week presented President Obama and President-elect Donald J. Trump with a summary of unsubstantiated reports that Russia had collected compromising and salacious personal information about Mr. Trump, two officials with knowledge of the briefing said.

    The summary is based on memos generated by political operatives seeking to derail Mr. Trump’s candidacy. Details of the reports began circulating in the fall and were widely known among journalists and politicians in Washington.

    The two-page summary, first reported by CNN, was presented as an appendix to the intelligence agencies’ report on Russian hacking efforts during the election, the officials said. The material was not corroborated, and The New York Times has not been able to confirm the claims. But intelligence agencies considered it so potentially explosive that they decided Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump and congressional leaders needed to be told about it and informed that the agencies were actively investigating it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/u...ence.html?_r=0
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    Donald Trump 'briefed on former British spy's report that Russia claims to have damaging information about him'

    A former British spy reportedly tipped off US intelligence that Russian operatives are claiming to have compiled compromising information about Donald Trump, it emerged on Tuesday night. ...

    They included factual errors, as well as allegations that Russia was aware of “sexual perversion” engaged in by Mr Trump during a visit to Moscow. According to Buzzfeed, the dossier was prepared for Mr Trump’s political rivals.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...russia-claims/

    This article has a link to images of the report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    Donald Trump 'briefed on former British spy's report that Russia claims to have damaging information about him'

    A former British spy reportedly tipped off US intelligence that Russian operatives are claiming to have compiled compromising information about Donald Trump, it emerged on Tuesday night. ...

    They included factual errors, as well as allegations that Russia was aware of “sexual perversion” engaged in by Mr Trump during a visit to Moscow. According to Buzzfeed, the dossier was prepared for Mr Trump’s political rivals.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...russia-claims/

    This article has a link to images of the report.
    Interestingly this source was part of the Rolling Stone article that hit in first June and then shortly before the election BUT was shredded by US MSM and proTrump commenters....

    BUT even more interesting is the simple fact that some veterans of the NSA/CIA CI side who spent years battling the KGB then FSB tended to agree that compromising materials do in fact exist...

    Followed by the extensive now available from key investigative journalists backed by the FT...on massive Russian financial involvement with Trump.

    There is this very old saying..."where there is indeed smoke there is indeed a fire"....and the "smoke" around Trump is heavy and thick...

    Secondly, it is interesting that the FBI did confirm yesterday that the RNC and elements of State RNC groups were equally hacked by the Russians...

    AND materials were taken BUT the Russians have not leaked a single RNC document...

    THEN REMEMBER Trump has been lying in his tweets WHEN he compared the lax DNC computer security to the super strong RNC security BECAUSE RNC was not hacked...

    WHICH we know since yesterday via the FBI that this was a Trump tweet lie....

    WHAT is really interesting is this was HUMINT and as with all HUMINT...the rating quality of the info is F6 until confirmed and or denied...BUT HUMINT is usually a tip off to something that in fact exists....

    THIS UK former spy has a very good track record in the past and has been reporting over the years quite accurately....so one should not push his information to the side...

    AND if one takes the time to read the open report the sources are 1. SIGINT....2. HUMINT and really interestingly 3. OSINT...the IC seems to be quite sure of the OSINT otherwise they would not be referring to it....
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    Buzzfeed published 35pp memos on #Russia having compromising evidence of #Trump in perverted sex acts #GoldenShowers https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...V#.rrJ8M9N4q#…

    "there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian govt" @CNN

    NOTE:...it is interesting that carter Page showed up in Paris meeting Russian reps and talked supposedly about Syria....and then Page being in Moscow recently claiming to be an advisor for Trump when the transition team was stating he was not....

    Hackers in Romania and Bulgaria worked to hack Clinton camp under Kremlin's direction and were paid in cash by BOTH Trump & Russian sources.

    Trump lawyer Michael Cohen (married to Russian) was Kremlin liaison for damage control, covering up scandals re Russia's op, Manafort, Page

    Sechin so wanted sanctions lifted, he offered Page/Trump 19% brokerage stake in Russia's Rosneft. Page agreed

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    More breathtaking diplomacy from spokesperson of Russia's Foreign Ministry: God created the world in 7 days, and Obama has 9 to destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Buzzfeed published 35pp memos on #Russia having compromising evidence of #Trump in perverted sex acts #GoldenShowers https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...V#.rrJ8M9N4q#…

    "there was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian govt" @CNN

    NOTE:...it is interesting that carter Page showed up in Paris meeting Russian reps and talked supposedly about Syria....and then Page being in Moscow recently claiming to be an advisor for Trump when the transition team was stating he was not....

    Hackers in Romania and Bulgaria worked to hack Clinton camp under Kremlin's direction and were paid in cash by BOTH Trump & Russian sources.

    Trump lawyer Michael Cohen (married to Russian) was Kremlin liaison for damage control, covering up scandals re Russia's op, Manafort, Page

    Sechin so wanted sanctions lifted, he offered Page/Trump 19% brokerage stake in Russia's Rosneft. Page agreed
    @MichaelCohen212 you don't deny meeting Russia during the campaign to discuss hacks of Democrats?

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    Default RE: The Trump Dossier

    Thus far, it's a load of drivel.

    I could concoct a story about how Hillary Clinton was beholden to and compromised by the Al-Thanis, deliberately attempted to steer US foreign policy as Secretary to serve the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (e.g. Egypt, Libya, Syria) and was backed by the Al-Thanis throughout the nomination process and presidential campaign. And do you know what? It would be more factual than this unverified story written by unknown persons on behalf of Clinton and the Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Thus far, it's a load of drivel.

    I could concoct a story about how Hillary Clinton was beholden to and compromised by the Al-Thanis, deliberately attempted to steer US foreign policy as Secretary to serve the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (e.g. Egypt, Libya, Syria) and was backed by the Al-Thanis throughout the nomination process and presidential campaign. And do you know what? It would be more factual than this unverified story written by unknown persons on behalf of Clinton and the Democrats.
    BUT WAIT....does not negate the massive real estate deals done by Tump and Russian oligarchs...does not negate the 10M USD fine for laundering money...largely Russian...

    AND does not negate why the FBI FISA request was turned down for four major Trump Russian associated advisors does it...ESPECIALLY since in 38,000 FISA requests over the years ONLY 12 have been rejected...WHY were these four rejected and they had travels to Russia and tight connections to Russia.

    Kleptocracy...Russian black money and US real estate deals.....

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    Must-read from @HarvardIR on the link between kleptocrats, anonymous companies, and US real estate:
    http://hir.harvard.edu/lifestyles-ri...-real-estate/#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Thus far, it's a load of drivel.

    I could concoct a story about how Hillary Clinton was beholden to and compromised by the Al-Thanis, deliberately attempted to steer US foreign policy as Secretary to serve the interests of the Muslim Brotherhood (e.g. Egypt, Libya, Syria) and was backed by the Al-Thanis throughout the nomination process and presidential campaign. And do you know what? It would be more factual than this unverified story written by unknown persons on behalf of Clinton and the Democrats.
    You are missing the point. Here is a Trump Tweet from today:
    Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?
    Trump sees this as a personal attack on him by the U.S. Intelligence Community!

    So how do you expect Trump will receive word from his intelligence agencies that the Russians have little green men in Estonia or that they are secretly moving troops into Latvia? From here on out, the Russians will have a free hand in Eastern Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    You are missing the point. Here is a Trump Tweet from today:

    "Intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to "leak" into the public. One last shot at me. Are we living in Nazi Germany?"

    Trump sees this as a personal attack on him by the U.S. Intelligence Community!

    So how do you expect Trump will receive word from his intelligence agencies that the Russians have little green men in Estonia or that they are secretly moving troops into Latvia? From here on out, the Russians will have a free hand in Eastern Europe.
    Considering that the current and former CIA Directors going back a number of years endorsed Hillary Clinton, along with various CIA officers and Republican members of the national security community, Trump may well have a point.

    It is clear that people were hoping that Hillary would allow for more CIA intervention in Syria and Ukraine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Considering that the current and former CIA Directors going back a number of years endorsed Hillary Clinton, along with various CIA officers and Republican members of the national security community, Trump may well have a point.

    It is clear that people were hoping that Hillary would allow for more CIA intervention in Syria and Ukraine...
    The people who do the work in the CIA/NSA are not political appointees. They are career civil servants, many of whom put their life on the line to do what they do. If they thought it was a problem, it was a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCurmudgeon View Post
    The people who do the work in the CIA/NSA are not political appointees. They are career civil servants, many of whom put their life on the line to do what they do. If they thought it was a problem, it was a problem.
    The CIA Directors are all career civil servants?

    Brennan became a political appointee years ago and his two Deputy Directors are operatives with no experience in intelligence.

    I cannot think of an administration in which the CIA was not politicized, so this is nothing new, really.

    As for the dossier, there are good reasons why the major news outlets refused to publish it and why BuzzFeed did so only with big caveats.

    Ultimately, it revolves around whether or not there is evidence of Trump paying prostitutes to have a "golden shower".

    The rest is simply a rehash of Clinton campaign talking points with some cloak and dagger bits thrown in for excitement.

    I'm sure that Putin found the dossier helpful in determining who in the FSB, and Finance and Foreign Ministries are traitors... *eye roll*

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