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    “... the most subversive figure ever elected to high public office in a major free country.” -Charles Moore on Trump

    It would be a terrible mistake to underestimate the dangers of Donald Trump's Russophilia#
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...s-russophilia/
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    Azor..even you cannot state this has nothing to do with Russian non linear warfare against the US.....

    CNN confirms Trump-Russia Grand Jury in Virginia. Comey hinted it at last week, that's why Trump fired him.

    Why VA..there is the single FBI SCIF where classified materials can be read and listened to.....by a Federal Grand Jury....

    You will notice in the Comey firing letter Trump mentions THREE times I thank you for telling me I am not being investigated.....

    In fact a blatant lie as of last week Comey did not state such and indicated there was in fact an ongoing invesitgation of the Trump WH for Russian collusion.

    SO really what is Trump trying to coverup??

    IN all my years of watching US politics I have never seen such a statement by a former USG AG....Trump thinks the previous leaks have been bad..what comes now will be nasty and brutal.....

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    To the career men and women at DOJ/FBI: you know what the job entails and how to do it. Be strong and unafraid. Duty. Honor. Country.


    And now DC law firms are lining up to offer FBI/DOJ personnel any assistance if they whistleblow......

    And if you are inclined to blow the whistle, come to my law firm and we will make sure you do so legally and with protection

    NOW Azor try to convince Gerasimov is not "winning"......BTW...this is what in the end "killed Nixon"....cannot believe Trump never read this...
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    This is what non linear warfare as a driving force behind an effective political war is all about......again Gerasimov is "winning" and smiling all the way to the bank....


    This is a tense and uncertain time in the nation’s history. The president of the United States, who is no more above the law than any other citizen, has now decisively crippled the F.B.I.’s ability to carry out an investigation of him and his associates. There is no guarantee that Mr. Comey’s replacement, who will be chosen by Mr. Trump, will continue that investigation; in fact, there are already hints to the contrary.

    The obvious historical parallel to Mr. Trump’s action was the so-called Saturday Night Massacre in October 1973, when President Richard Nixon ordered the firing of the special prosecutor investigating Watergate, prompting the principled resignations of the attorney general and his deputy. But now, there is no special prosecutor in place to determine whether the public trust has been violated, and whether the presidency was effectively stolen by a hostile foreign power. For that reason, the country has reached an even more perilous moment.
    This is exactly why anything this President states even his FP is nothing but lies and more lies.....

    This statement released by the Trump WH does not reflect that both his son's in a golfing article in 2014 and again in 2015 BOTH stated that they did not need any US bank loans for their golf course expansions as they had more than enough Russian investments flowing into the golf course businesses....and one son stated in 2014 that they had over 100M USDs in Russian purchases in the Trump Towers...so no Russian business..notice Trump stated nothing about Russian money.....

    President Donald Trump has hired a Washington law firm to send a letter to a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee saying he has no connections to Russia, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday.
    Spicer's revelation was in response to a question from reporters on a briefing about committee member Sen. Lindsey Graham's remarks that he wants to look into whether Trump has any business dealings with Russia.
    "The president, obviously, was aware of Senator Graham's suggestion after he made it today and he's fine with that. He has no business in Russia. He has no connections to Russia. So he welcomes that," Spicer said.
    "In fact, he is already charged a leading law firm in Washington, D.C., to send a certified letter to Senator Graham to that point that he has no connections to Russia," Spicer said.
    So is in fact Trump calling both of his son's lairs???????

    This is from a MSM source that is normally quiet.... well mannered and reports factually......

    Many observers would agree with at least some of Rosenstein’s points about the Clinton investigation—but so what? Are we seriously being asked to countenance the idea that Trump fired Comey because he didn’t treat Hillary Clinton fairly? The same Trump who seized upon Comey’s press conference last July and used it to buttress his claims that Clinton should be jailed. The same Trump who, on October 31st, said, “It took guts for Director Comey to make the move that he made in light of the kind of opposition he had.”
    Until the White House comes up with a less ludicrous rationalization for its actions, we can only assume that Trump fired Comey because the Russia investigation is closing in on him and his associates, and he knew that he didn’t have much sway over the F.B.I. director. That is the simplest theory that fits the facts. And it is a cause for great alarm.
    Ever since Trump took office, many people have worried about his commitment to democratic norms, the Constitution, and the rule of law. From the hasty promulgation of his anti-Muslim travel ban onward, he has done little to salve these concerns. Now he has acted like one of the authoritarian leaders he so admires—a Putin, an Erdoğan, or an el-Sisi.
    Congress must restrain him and reassert the principles of American democracy by appointing an independent special prosecutor to take over the Russian investigation.#If the legislature won’t act unprompted—and the initial signs are that most of the G.O.P. intends to yield to the President’s abuse of his power—it will be incumbent on the American people to register their protests forcefully, and to put pressure on their elected officials.#Trump is a menace. He must be stopped.
    To be stated that they view this as an actual attack on US democracy....means one thing and one thing only....Russia and their non linear war have won a major political war victory.....simple as that...
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    Maybe we all need to go back and thoroughly understand political warfare....

    http://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/han...pdf?sequence=1

    In May 1948, in the context of the early days of the Cold War, the State Department’s director of policy planning, George Kennan, defined political warfare as: The employment of all the means at a nation’s command, short of war, to achieve its national objectives. Such operations are both overt and covert. They range from such overt actions as political alliances, economic measures (as ERP [Economic Recovery Plan i.e. the Marshall Plan], and “white” propaganda, to such covert operations as clandestine support of “friendly” foreign elements, “black” psychological warfare and even encouragement of underground resistance in hostile states. Kennan’s reference to “all of the means at a nation’s command” mirrors the current understanding of grand strategy.

    Van de Velde categorized all the means at a nation’s disposal into four instruments of statecraft: diplomatic, economic, military, and psychological. This concept has been adopted by the U.S. military and the psychological tool changed to the informational tool. Throughout this report, references to the instruments, levers, or tools of national power refer to diplomatic, informational, military, and economic means, abbreviated as DIME. Kennan’s understanding of PW was not an original concept.

    His formative years as a Foreign Service Officer in Moscow, Prague, and Berlin had inculcated an intimate understanding of both the Nazi and Soviet methods for blurring the lines of conflict. In response, he drafted the memorandum—“The Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare”—containing the above definition, which proposed the establishment of a PW directorate within the U.S. government. In it, Kennan cited Clausewitz, Marx, and Lenin as teachers of PW.
    Gerasimov just updated PW......Putin and the FSB/GRU are delivering it.....

    Journalist is arrested for simply trying to ask a question of Trump Cabinet member and his WH Staff.....

    In a day of truly cinematic developments from the executive branch, one nearly slipped by. Journalist Dan Heyman, a producer for Public News Service, approached Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price and his colleague Kellyanne Conway at the capitol building in West Virginia to ask them a question about the American Health Care Act. A few minutes later, he was arrested.

    Preliminary eye-witness reports suggest that capitol police were unaware Heyman was a member of the press. He was reportedly detained after getting too close to Price and Conway. Heyman was charged with "willful destruction of state government processes" by the capitol police and held in a regional jail for several hours. He was released on $5,000 bond.

    ACLU-WV legal director Jamie Lynn Crofts addressed reporters on the steps of the West Virginia capitol building around 8:45pm. "Our First Amendment rights are under attack every day, particularly from the Trump administration. And it's not surprising to me that an incident like this would happen when a reporter tried to ask a question of a member of the Trump administration," Crofts said. "They have shown us every day since Donald Trump took office that they don't care about the First Amendment, or the free press. Today was just another example of that. It's horrifying."
    Upon his release around10:30pm, Heyman and his lawyer Tim DiPiero spoke to reporters. "I think it's dreadful. This is my job!" Heyman said.
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    It is interesting to see how some "leftists" crossed over and suddenly became "right wingers on a mission"...which if thoroughly understood they are doing exactly what Bannon who himself professed to wanting to be "Lenin"..destroy the existing US government....

    Long read but really worth the reading as it goes into facts, names and organizations many Americans do not know exist....

    How a ‘shadow’ universe of charities joined with right wing political warriors to fuel Trump’s rise
    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...cid=spartandhp

    The crowd rose to its feet and roared its approval as Sen. Jeff Sessions bounded onto the stage at the Breakers, an exclusive resort in Palm Beach, Fla. Stephen Miller, an aide to the Alabama Republican, handed him a glass trophy honoring his bravery as a lawmaker.
    “Heyyyy!” Sessions yelled out to the crowd.
    The ceremony that day, in November 2014, turned out to be a harbinger: It brought together an array of hard-right activists and a little-known charity whose ideas would soon move from the fringes of the conservative movement into the heart of the nation’s government.
    The man behind the event was David Horowitz, a former ’60s radical who became an intellectual godfather to the far right through his writings and his work at a charity, the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Since its formation in 1988, the Freedom Center has helped cultivate a generation of political warriors seeking to upend the Washington establishment. These warriors include some of the most powerful and influential figures in the Trump administration: Attorney General Sessions, senior policy adviser Miller and White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon.
    Long before Trump promised to build a wall, ban Muslims and abandon the Paris climate accord, Horowitz used his tax-exempt group to rail against illegal immigrants, the spread of Islam and global warming. Center officials described Hillary Clinton as evil, President Barack Obama as a secret communist and the Democratic Party as a front for enemies of the United States.
    The Freedom Center has declared itself a “School for Political Warfare,” and it is part of a loose nationwide network of like-minded charities linked together by ideology, personalities, conservative funders and websites, including the for-profit Breitbart News.
    Horowitz’s story shows how charities have become essential to modern political campaigns, amid lax enforcement of the federal limits on their involvement in politics, while taking advantage of millions of dollars in what amount to taxpayer subsidies.
    In interviews with The Washington Post, Horowitz, 78, acknowledged the Freedom Center’s partisan mission and said its aim is to protect “traditional American values” against adversaries on the left, who operate their own network of charities. “This is a shadow political universe,” he said.
    Horowitz makes a good living as the Freedom Center chief executive, earning $583,000 from a charity that received $5.4#million in donations in 2015, according to the latest available records. But he said he has come to believe that his group and others across the political spectrum ought to be reined in to ensure they fulfill the original spirit of the Internal Revenue Service’s charitable rules, even though such overhauls would be “personally devastating for me.”
    “They should redefine what a charity is,” he said. “A charity should be something that helps everybody.”
    The IRS prohibits charities from directly or indirectly participating in political campaigns, for or against candidates.
    In an essay he published online in response to The Post’s questions after refusing further interviews, Horowitz wrote the center “does not engage in political activities in the narrow sense used in the I.R.S. code.”
    A lefty moves right
    Horowitz looks like a professor, with a salt-and-pepper goatee and small oval glasses. He speaks with a scratchy voice that carries strong hints of his New York roots. He is quick to use fiery rhetoric and no-holds-barred tactics he had learned as a student radical.
    Horowitz was a “red diaper baby” of communist parents in New York City. After attending Columbia University in the 1950s, he enrolled as a graduate student at the University of California at Berkeley, an anchor of leftist thinking.
    Over the next two decades, he took on prominent roles in the New Left. He served as an editor of Ramparts, an influential muckraking magazine in San Francisco.
    But by the late 1970s, he had decided that the left represented a profound threat to the United States. On March#17, 1985, he and a writing partner came out as conservatives in a surprising Washington Post Magazine article headlined “Lefties for Reagan.”
    In August 1988, Horowitz launched the Center for the Study of Popular Culture in Los Angeles, a nonprofit group that would become the Freedom Center.
    Charities have been around since the nation’s beginning, as citizens sought to help schools, churches and the poor. Decades ago, Congress created a special section of the IRS code to define and regulate charities, which are known as 501(c)(3) groups under the code. They have a special allure for donors: They can deduct contributions from their taxes.
    IRS rules give charities wide latitude, but they may not devote a “substantial part” of their resources or activities to lobbying or “carrying on propaganda.” And they “are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office,” according to the IRS.
    In his IRS application for tax-exempt status in August 1988, Horowitz wrote his center would be “entirely non-profit, non-partisan,” according to records obtained through a public records request. “It will not be organized to promote any particular political program.”
    Twenty years later, a brochure for one of the charity’s events would sharply contradict that claim: “In 1988, Horowitz created the Center for the Study of Popular Culture to institutionalize his campaigns against the Left and its anti-American agendas.”
    From the start, Horowitz was supported by contributions from stalwart conservative groups, including the John M. Olin Foundation and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, along with donations from the wealthy Scaife family of Pittsburgh.
    In 1989, he co-wrote “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About the Sixties,” a harsh critique of the radical left. He also began hosting events. A gathering called the Wednesday Morning Club catered to conservatives in liberal Los Angeles. In the 1990s, one of the regular guests was Bannon, then a former Wall Street investor seeking to make his mark in Hollywood, according to Lionel Chetwynd, the event’s co-founder.
    “Conservatives are nervous around me, and they’re nervous because I’m very outspoken,” Horowitz told The Post. “Steve Bannon was not nervous because he’s like me.”
    Bannon did not respond to requests for interviews.

    The origin of Stephen Miller
    After the Sept.#11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Horowitz and his center argued that liberals had been too tolerant of radical Islam and illegal immigration.
    Open to that message was Stephen Miller, a 16-year-old high school student in Santa Monica, Calif. In the fall of 2001, Miller asked Horowitz for help in disputes with administrators at his school. Miller complained his teachers and classmates were insufficiently patriotic and refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance.
    Horowitz’s charity launched a group called Students for Academic Freedom, framing it as a counterweight to the dominance of the left in high schools and on college campuses. Miller formed a chapter and sought permission from school officials to invite Horowitz to the school to speak. When administrators delayed, Miller and Horowitz accused them of stifling free speech.
    Horowitz eventually spoke at the school, and in November 2002, Miller wrote about the visit in an essay in Frontpagemag.com, the online news and opinion site run by the center. Miller portrayed himself as the victim of indoctrination and called on the system’s superintendent to ensure “that his schools stress inclusive patriotism, rather than a multiculturalism.”
    When Miller went on to Duke University, he formed another chapter of Students for Academic Freedom and again invited Horowitz to speak. At the time, Horowitz had just published “The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America,” a book some condemned as a political blacklist.
    After graduation, Miller wanted to work in Washington. Horowitz reached out to conservatives on Capitol Hill who had supported his group. He helped Miller land jobs with four lawmakers, including former representative Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Sessions. “I highly recommended him to Jeff,” Horowitz told The Post.
    Miller did not respond to requests for interviews.
    Continued-

    The meet-and-greet
    On Nov.#12, 2013, Bannon hosted a book party for Horowitz at a Washington, D.C., townhouse that served as Breitbart’s capital office and Bannon’s living quarters. Horowitz had just published a compendium of anti-liberal writings called the “Black Book of the American Left.”
    As Horowitz mingled, Bannon introduced himself to Ronald Radosh, a prominent conservative intellectual and historian. Radosh had known Horowitz for a half-century and also worked his way through the ranks of the New Left before becoming a conservative.

    Continued....

    “I’m a Leninist,” Bannon said, according to Radosh. “Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
    Continued.....]
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    REMEMBER this name.....David Horowitz...was one of the driving forces and writers on the "New Left" and rose to fame after the VN war...a number of his books and articles were university required reading in political science and IR classes....during that period as he bashed the heck out of the US and it's FP......

    WHO suddenly and it is a serious question HOW does a radical left winger suddenly and completely "sell out his own core belief system????

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...david-horowitz

    David Horowitz
    Despite Horowitz being a founding intellectual member of the New Left in the 1960s, and an advocate for civil rights and equality, he has since the late 1980’s become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements


    Background:
    David Horowitz was born on January 10, 1939, in Forest Hills, N.Y., into a household of schoolteachers and Communist Party USA members. In his 1998 memoir Radical Son, recounting his life and departure from 1960s member of the New Left, Horowitz describes the political convictions of those around him.
    Underneath the ordinary surfaces of their lives, my parents and their friends thought of themselves as secret agents. … Even if we never encountered a Soviet agent or engaged in a single illegal act, each of us knew that our commitment to socialism implied the obligation to commit treason, too.
    Horowitz moved to London following the completion of his graduate degree and began work with the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation. Established in 1963, the Foundation sought focused on human rights, social justice and peace with a particular interest in the ending the nuclear arms race. He returned to the United States five years later in 1968, where he took work as co-editor at #Ramparts, a magazine associated with the New Left movement of liberal activists seeking to drastically reform the cultural landscape with a wide range of social reforms. #
    By the 1970s, though, Horowitz had begun working with the Black Panther Party in Oakland, Calif., and formed a close relationship with the group’s co-founder, Huey P. Newton. Horowitz collected funds for the purchase of a Baptist church that was then converted into a learning center for children of members of the Black Panthers. But the relationship soon soured.
    In 1974, Betty Van Patter, Horowitz’s friend and colleague at Ramparts who he brought into the Black Panther movement, was found dead on a San Francisco Bay beach. She had been severely beaten, and Horowitz was convinced members of the Panthers were involved.
    Hugh Pearson, author of the Shadow of the Panther: Huey Newton and the Price of Black Power in American, wrote in recounting Horowitz’s feelings: “Without question, David Horowitz was extremely traumatized by what happened with Betty Van Patter, as I think anyone would be. … As a result, David just totally went berserk with regard to the left-liberal community.”#
    It isn’t an overstatement, in fact, to note that Van Patten’s death served as a grand catalyst for Horowitz’s quick departure from the radical left he helped found.
    Increasingly disillusioned with his political course in life, the decades that followed would see Horowitz adopt increasingly right-wing positions on matters of sexual promiscuity in the gay community, LGBT rights, U.S. foreign policy, the question of racial equality and affirmative action and, in 1985, he publicly announced that he had voted for Ronald Reagan the year before.
    In the essay published in The Washington Post titled “Goodbye to All That.” Horowitz and his writing partner Peter Collier –- both luminaries on the Left – came clean. “Casting our ballots for Ronald Reagan was indeed a way of saying goodbye to all that –– to the self-aggrandizing romance with corrupt Third Worldism; to the casual indulgence of Soviet totalitarianism; to the hypocritical mainstream politics,” the pair wrote.
    The essay was the beginning of a new course for Horowitz. Three years later, he founded the Center for the Study of Popular Culture (CSPC) in Los Angeles, which sought to “establish a conservative presence in Hollywood and show how popular culture had become a political battleground.” Horowitz spent much of the 1990s securing financing for the CSPC while railing against “political correctness” in American universities.
    In 1992, he began publishing the monthly tabloid “Heterodoxy,” which was “meant to have the feel of a samizdat publication inside the gulag of the PC [politically correct] university.” #The tabloid targeted university students who Horowitz viewed as being indoctrinated by the entrenched Left in American academia. Horowitz has maintained his assault on the political left to present day, and in 2005 established DiscoverTheNetworks.
    WHAT is extremely interesting is that while one can find a total of 38 Horowitz books online dating back to 2000 from the Right..you cannot seem to find a single article or book or interview from him written during his Black Panther days and even before that when Horowitz was a US Communist Party member and considered himself to be a Marxist...

    BTW...now of his Rampart articles seem to be listed in Google....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    It is interesting to see how some "leftists" crossed over and suddenly became "right wingers on a mission"...which if thoroughly understood they are doing exactly what Bannon who himself professed to wanting to be "Lenin"..destroy the existing US government....

    Long read but really worth the reading as it goes into facts, names and organizations many Americans do not know exist....

    How a ‘shadow’ universe of charities joined with right wing political warriors to fuel Trump’s rise
    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...cid=spartandhp

    NOW when we understand exactly just how Bannon and Miller fit within the alt right ie white nationalist movement then their wishing as does David Horowitz for the destruction of NATO and EU is not so surprising...

    The president appears to have deleted it himself, according to one version making the rounds inside the government, reflecting his personal skepticism about NATO and insistence on lecturing NATO allies about spending more on defense rather than offering reassurances of any sort; another version relayed to others by several White House aides is that Trump’s nationalist chief strategist Steve Bannon and policy aide Stephen Miller played a role in the deletion. (According to NSC spokesman Michael Anton, who did not dispute this account, “The president attended the summit to show his support for the NATO alliance, including Article 5. His continued effort to secure greater defense commitments from other nations is making our alliance stronger.”)

    THE GLOBAL POLITICO
    Trump National Security Team Blindsided by NATO Speech
    They thought the president would commit to the principle of collective defense. They were wrong
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    By Susan B. Glasser June 05, 2017
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ty-team-215227

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    Trump claimed in front of a pile of so called legal documents that he had separated himself from his own business ventures...which based on two filed Emoluments cases Trump has not separated himself from his business empire....

    Trump’s Business Ties in the Gulf Raise Questions About His Allegiances

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/1...&_r=0&referer=

    Many do not fully understand that CENTCOM (F) was housed inside the Qatar Trump Tower for years.....

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    Well it appears that the Trump move to deflect form his Russian investigation ie slam Cuba is not getting him bonus points in Moscow and with his friend Putin.....

    Russia criticizes U.S. for 'anti-Cuban' approach, says it sides with Cuba
    http://reut.rs/2rsKr6o

    Another Trump FP move gone haywire.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Trump claimed in front of a pile of so called legal documents that he had separated himself from his own business ventures...which based on two filed Emoluments cases Trump has not separated himself from his business empire....

    Trump’s Business Ties in the Gulf Raise Questions About His Allegiances

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/1...&_r=0&referer=

    Many do not fully understand that CENTCOM (F) was housed inside the Qatar Trump Tower for years.....
    Core comment worth noting in this article....

    Stepping away from management without giving up ownership does not diminish Mr. Trump’s financial incentives or conflicts, as the director of the Office of Government Ethics warned before Mr. Trump’s inauguration
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    For anyone not fully understanding just why Trump has been tweet bashing Washington Post ever since their article of the Obama response to the Russian hacking and which Trump validated the article by Trump's tweets when he basically bashed Obama for not dong anything to stop the Russians.....

    REMEMBER what the WH spokesperson stated...."if it is a Trump tweet then it is officially from the WH".....

    REMEMBER for over six solid months Trump refused to accept the simple fact that Russia did support his election........

    BUT this might in fact be the reason for the bashing......

    Solid Rumint has it that the Washington Post has a certified copy of the SIGINT recording of Putin giving the order to hack and influence the US election....

    REMEMBER Wapo did in fact allude to it in their article but did not release it at the request of USG IC....SIGINT came from outside the US not from NSA....

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    NOW the Washington Post article makes full sense if you read this.....

    REMEMBER as a social media journalist she has been largely accurate in every article she has posted often confirmed by MSM weeks later....concerning Russia and Trump.....

    Article contains 12 names including Trump, his family and his close associates...AND the following sentence.....
    "I have now been granted permission and even encouraged to report everything relating to allied intelligence on Trump Russian suspects".

    EXCLUSIVE Reince ‘Wanted to Run’ – NATO SIGINT on Trump’s Treasonweasels PART 1
    https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/29/...reasonweasels/

    In the wake of the Washington Post’s naturally, and commendably, guarded exclusive on Vladimir Putin’s direct ordering of the Russian attack on Secretary Hillary Clinton, we offer readers a short guide to what sources with links to the intelligence communities of more than one Western nation and sources with links to the Justice Department report that allied nations possess in terms of SIGINT, or Signals Intelligence, on various suspects in the Russian hack of America.
    This guide is intended to be a report on what we know and is not exhaustive. Doubtless there is a lot more out there from allied and enemy nations to the West that we do not know of.
    Donald Trump:
    Countless intelligence agencies, mostly hostile, hacked Trump’s insecure Android phone. The British, Ukranians and Germans all have recordings of Carter Page in Moscow offering treason for hacking, and recordings of Page playing the tape of Donald Trump for his Moscow paymasters, wherein Trump promises unspecificed (to us) shifts of policy in exchange for hacking help.
    As I reported exclusively at Patribotics, this tape was discussed with Sergei Kislyak by Trump, Manafort, Page and Epshteyn. As I further reported, Sergei Kislyak’s phone was ‘hot miked’ through an SS7 exploit by a Five Eyes nation for a portion of last year. By request, I am withholding the nation and the amount of time that Kislyak’s phone was recording all those with whom he came in contact*. #I will report on exactly how each nation holds this intelligence when I come to Carter Page.
    The United Kingdom in particular has a treasure trove of intelligence on Donald Trump. Before Nigel Farage – acting as a courier, sources say – went in to see Julian Assange, Donald Trump called his phone (the previous night). British intelligence taped that conversation, sources say, as Farage was under surveillance, and have provided the resulting fresh evidence of treason to the USIC.
    Julian Assange’s conversations about Trump and with his couriers are all on tape. British intelligence and the NSA have been inside the Ecuadorean Embassy for some time. There is disbelief, sources report, in many conversations between the two closest intelligence partners in the world, America and Britain, at how stupid the Russians and Ecuadoreans have been to believe Julian Assange’s pitiable assertions that his communications were ever secure.
    Vladimir Putin
    Vladimir Putin, for the avoidance of doubt, was recorded by both British intelligence and private allied intelligence firms of more than one nation, directly ordering an attack on the United States election and on Hillary Clinton. This recording was given to the Washington Post, and they held it back out of respect for US intelligence, for which I applaud them.
    Donald Trump Jr
    Donald Trump Jr was directly taped by the French before the election, colluding treacherously with the Russians. As with all NATO allies who are not part of the Five Eyes agreement, there is no legal reason why they cannot directly tape Americans abroad. The FBI would need permission with a FISA warrant to listen to any such intelligence on U.S. persons.

    This report will be updated with a Part II tomorrow.
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    "Deliverables" are what you provide to a paying client.

    Trump wants a list of them to offer to Putin.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...utin-meeting#…
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    NYT: Mike Pence's Chief of Staff is leaving, after working with him for 12 years.
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    This is a response by the current US CINC Trump when he is being critiqued for his firing of an investigator who is investigating him for Russian connections....

    FOUR time VN draft-dodger who said avoiding STDs was "his Vietnam" attacks honorably discharged USMCR veteran.

    For a alleged bone spur which he could not recall several months ago during an interview ...which foot it was....

    AND this same CINC is to make and carry out FP??


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    Watching Senator Richard Blumenthal speak of Comey is a joke. "Richie" devised one of the greatest military frauds in U.S. history. For....

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    years, as a pol in Connecticut, Blumenthal would talk of his great bravery and conquests in Vietnam - except he was never there. When....

    BUT WAIT...this is now a Trump pattern.....

    Bharara investigated Kremlin money-laundering...fired.

    Yates warned about Flynn's Moscow ties...fired

    Comey oversaw investigation into Trump-Russia...fired.
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    Azor...read this link and then tell me that this President is capable for formulating a single FP outside of his stated "Russian friendship"...

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Then Moscow risks losing leverage over them. Beijing is faced with a similar dilemma with regard to Pyongyang. Look at what happens when the "Armed Forces of Novorossiya" are ignored as Putin attends to other more pressing concerns...



    Agreed. This dastardly plot is being directed by Stalin, whose brain is alive and well in a machine interface within Mount Yamantau.

    But I thought that Comey was part of the “vast right-wing conspiracy” against Hillary that has existed since at least 1996, originated in Arkansas, and has come to include Comey and Putin? Why would Trump terminate his employment, and risk Comey revealing the conspiracy that Hillary warned us about decades ago?

    Not engaging here. Feel free to use your EurRail pass to visit Hyde Park…



    Source for this particular incident? Of the list of terrorist attacks in West Germany and reunified Germany, I have not seen a single incident attributed to the PKK, although ethnic Turks in Germany have been killed by racist and ethnic German terrorists.

    Germany inherited the Turkish-Kurdish conflict due to its immigration policies. The PKK uses Germany as a base, but so does the MIT, which has developed an illegal network of 6,000 informers in Germany or roughly half the number of estimated PKK members residing there. This brazen intelligence activity on German soil puts the NSA's snooping in perspective...



    U.S. foreign policy has little to do with the Syrian Civil War. Russian, Lebanese, Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish and finally Syrian internal politics, would be more relevant.
    Azor...sorry that you still do not get it....the failure of any strategic strategy addressing the ME under the Obama WH...just reread the Obama and Rhodes long interviews....IS IN FACT largely responswible for the entire mess in the ME....even agree with Trump on that...

    BUT the person that is now US President is in fact far more dangerous in the end for US ME FP as he has never read a book, does not listen well, thinks he is the smartest apple on the tree and actually he is none of that....yet he will be in theory driving US FP...

    Read this and then tell me this President is actually "sane"....

    Trump angered by Comey's refusal to back Trump's claims that Obama wiretapped him: report
    http://hill.cm/WVtUWsM

    WHEN everyone is telling him it did not happen and this man drives US FP??

    REMEMBER this is the same person that still today refuses to accept the fact that it was Russian GRU/FSB that hacked the US and drove a major influence operation into the heart of US elections...

    First it was that famous 400lb kid on a bed with a laptop and lately it has changed to maybe the "Chinese did it"...

    Azor..this is what you must finally accept and yes you did from the beginning push back that Trump had ties to Russian money black money....

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    I've received a briefing from a senior intel official who's worked #KremlinGate from the beginning. I'll share the findings ASAP. Big stuff.

    Right now there are three key social media journalists that are breaking Russian/Trump revelations and then MSM confirm them days later....

    Right now this is a summation of what we can see as a coming true Constitutional crisis......

    1. There have been confirmed THREE Federal Grand Juries..two have finished with a total of SIX sealed indictments and 16 more coming... RICO is at the core and the last one is the FISA investigation using highly classified US/European SIGINT AS well as a NY RICO investigation into the entire Trump business organization referring to money laundering...there is now a total of SIX FISA Warrants allowing surveillance of virtually everything that have been issued and renewed which means SIX individuals are under some serious surrveillance.

    THAT is exactly the reason Comey asked the US DoJ for more money and agents to help...AND even when two individuals who were with Comey at that DoJ request for funding/personnel meeting...DoJ denies the meeting ever happened.

    2. We know as of yesterday that ALL of the Flynn associates have been called in front of a FISA Grand Jury AND we know that Flynn as a retired general officer is under US military Inspector General investigations

    3. We know that the Trump WH attempted to use Congressional individuals to influence and or shift the Russian investigations to the debate they themselves started on "unmasking" to deflect from the Russian connections

    4- We know that the WH has been in the last months putting strong pressure on the FBI to divert from their Russin investigations to investigating so called leaks a number of which did not involve classified information...

    5. "FinCEN has assisted in the ongoing FBI CI investigation into Trump admin ties with Russia"

    SO if we know all of this and coupled with the FBI Director firing which was indeed focused on stopping the Russian investigation JUST how in the heck is Trump suppose to focus on FP...any FP....pray tell??

    BUT WAIT...we saw him in his Russian mode yesterday when he deliberately provided Putin great PR and cut out a US press photo op....

    BTW...I find this comment far more interesting actually...

    Germany inherited the Turkish-Kurdish conflict due to its immigration policies. The PKK uses Germany as a base, but so does the MIT, which has developed an illegal network of 6,000 informers in Germany or roughly half the number of estimated PKK members residing there. This brazen intelligence activity on German soil puts the NSA's snooping in perspective...
    You somehow failed to fully understand the "Gastarbeiter program" from the 60s that Germany used during their great industrial leap forward and mix it up with today's Syrian immigrant problem which can simply be resolved by stopping the bombings and tossing out Assad and removing Russian troops from Syrian soil....

    BTW MIT does not use Kurds but rather Turkish members of the Grey Wolf...and the German BND/NKA and BfV has actively warned MIT directly that they will be arrested and deported after sentencing for spying.....MIT has signalled them they will back off....BUT German agencies are maintaining a tight surveillance on their known German agents.

    Reference NSA snooping......the mission set of NSA and say the BND/BfV they all "watch" whoever they want to....this goes back to the Cold War days when they cross shared facilities and info....the strain began when the Wall fell and NSA was placed under binding German legal constraints as German was no longer "occupied"....

    The strain between say NSA and BND/BfV has been that Germany is not a member of the Anglo Saxon spy info exchange program called FVEYs.....and is often excluded by the NSA in some types of info exchange forcing the BND-BfV to gather on their own...AND it still goes to the core problem that the US simply does not like to share much intel with the Germans..has been that way for years.....

    This is the core reason the BND through extremely roundabout not so legal ways ways acquired the NSA PRISM lawful monitoring software program....when NSA would not share the technology with them yet claiming all of NATO must fight terrorism...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Azor...sorry that you still do not get it....the failure of any strategic strategy addressing the ME under the Obama WH...just reread the Obama and Rhodes long interviews....IS IN FACT largely responswible for the entire mess in the ME....even agree with Trump on that...

    BUT the person that is now US President is in fact far more dangerous in the end for US ME FP as he has never read a book, does not listen well, thinks he is the smartest apple on the tree and actually he is none of that....yet he will be in theory driving US FP...

    Read this and then tell me this President is actually "sane"....

    Trump angered by Comey's refusal to back Trump's claims that Obama wiretapped him: report
    http://hill.cm/WVtUWsM

    WHEN everyone is telling him it did not happen and this man drives US FP??

    REMEMBER this is the same person that still today refuses to accept the fact that it was Russian GRU/FSB that hacked the US and drove a major influence operation into the heart of US elections...

    First it was that famous 400lb kid on a bed with a laptop and lately it has changed to maybe the "Chinese did it"...

    Azor..this is what you must finally accept and yes you did from the beginning push back that Trump had ties to Russian money black money....

    John Schindler‏
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    I've received a briefing from a senior intel official who's worked #KremlinGate from the beginning. I'll share the findings ASAP. Big stuff.

    Right now there are three key social media journalists that are breaking Russian/Trump revelations and then MSM confirm them days later....

    Right now this is a summation of what we can see as a coming true Constitutional crisis......

    1. There have been confirmed THREE Federal Grand Juries..two have finished with a total of SIX sealed indictments and 16 more coming... RICO is at the core and the last one is the FISA investigation using highly classified US/European SIGINT AS well as a NY RICO investigation into the entire Trump business organization referring to money laundering...there is now a total of SIX FISA Warrants allowing surveillance of virtually everything that have been issued and renewed which means SIX individuals are under some serious surrveillance.

    THAT is exactly the reason Comey asked the US DoJ for more money and agents to help...AND even when two individuals who were with Comey at that DoJ request for funding/personnel meeting...DoJ denies the meeting ever happened.

    2. We know as of yesterday that ALL of the Flynn associates have been called in front of a FISA Grand Jury AND we know that Flynn as a retired general officer is under US military Inspector General investigations

    3. We know that the Trump WH attempted to use Congressional individuals to influence and or shift the Russian investigations to the debate they themselves started on "unmasking" to deflect from the Russian connections

    4- We know that the WH has been in the last months putting strong pressure on the FBI to divert from their Russin investigations to investigating so called leaks a number of which did not involve classified information...

    5. "FinCEN has assisted in the ongoing FBI CI investigation into Trump admin ties with Russia"

    SO if we know all of this and coupled with the FBI Director firing which was indeed focused on stopping the Russian investigation JUST how in the heck is Trump suppose to focus on FP...any FP....pray tell??

    BUT WAIT...we saw him in his Russian mode yesterday when he deliberately provided Putin great PR and cut out a US press photo op....

    BTW...I find this comment far more interesting actually...

    You somehow failed to fully understand the "Gastarbeiter program" from the 60s that Germany used during their great industrial leap forward and mix it up with today's Syrian immigrant problem which can simply be resolved by stopping the bombings and tossing out Assad and removing Russian troops from Syrian soil....

    BTW MIT does not use Kurds but rather Turkish members of the Grey Wolf...and the German BND/NKA and BfV has actively warned MIT directly that they will be arrested and deported after sentencing for spying.....MIT has signalled them they will back off....BUT German agencies are maintaining a tight surveillance on their known German agents.

    Reference NSA snooping......the mission set of NSA and say the BND/BfV they all "watch" whoever they want to....this goes back to the Cold War days when they cross shared facilities and info....the strain began when the Wall fell and NSA was placed under binding German legal constraints as German was no longer "occupied"....

    The strain between say NSA and BND/BfV has been that Germany is not a member of the Anglo Saxon spy info exchange program called FVEYs.....and is often excluded by the NSA in some types of info exchange forcing the BND-BfV to gather on their own...AND it still goes to the core problem that the US simply does not like to share much intel with the Germans..has been that way for years.....

    This is the core reason the BND through extremely roundabout not so legal ways ways acquired the NSA PRISM lawful monitoring software program....when NSA would not share the technology with them yet claiming all of NATO must fight terrorism...
    Azor...this interesting tidbit WENT fully under the Trump rants about Comey AND Trump used the letter from the Acting AG as a main reason to fire Comey....

    Some journalists were puzzled by the fact the letter from Rosenstein appeared to be a collection of negative op ed reporting and second hand press comments by former proTrump FBI agents...some mentioned it but moved on in the chatter yesterday...

    This now explains it...

    Rosenstein was only asked to write outline of negatives re: Comey NOT letter of termination. Not on board w firing. That was all Trump/Sessions. PLAYED.

    RUMINT is indicating that he is one angry individual as he has a solid reputation for being a great former FBI agent and investigator...

    REMEMBER this AG ...Sessions was in fact suppose to be recused from anything touching the Russian investigation as he had also lied to Congress about his ties to the US Russian Ambassador...SO what was he doing in the firing meeting about a FBI director who was in the middle of the Russian investigation that Sessions was supposedly recused from?????

    SO again the core question..just how in the heck is Trump ever to get a strategic thought through FP strategy in place for anything in the midst now of a solid chatter wall...24 X 7 X 365????

    REMEMBER .....NK...now all is quiet as a mouse...remember that MOAB...IS/Taliban are still on the move...and even those TLAMs...did not impress for a second Assad and or Putin.....and that has been about it for the Trump FP efforts....

    THERE is an old Syrian saying..."when a man pokes a honets nest looking for honey that man will get stung"....

    Source close to investigation, cannot confirm/deny arrests as early as tomorrow...but..."Comey dismissal is a catalyst for action".
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    Russia's state media says "some" in #Russia view Comey's firing as a "sacrifice" for the sake of normalization of Russo-American relations.
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    Chertoff was mentioned on the PBS NewsHour as a possible successor to Comey. Very bad idea with his connections to corrupt Firtash.

    Firtash, Ukrainian oligarch who could tie Trump to Putin/Russian intel, hired former DHS chief Michael Chertoff to help fight extradition

    Chertoff, a Clinton nemesis since Whitewater, is a Republican, and now part of Firtash's high-powered legal team

    Firtash's–he was also Manafort's biz partner–extradition is being fought in earnest he is out on a 174M USDs bail....

    Firtash could reveal Putin/Trump/Manafort money laundering/transfer scheme–and more-of course his extradition will be fought

    Firtash's Spanish arrest re: laundering $10.5mm thru companies based in CYPRUS/Virgin Islands
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