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    Trump and FOX News starting their info warfare campaign to "save the son-in-law"......


    BUT WAIT...did not Trump yesterday bash the FAKE News for using "unnamed sources".....


    Donald J. Trump‏
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    Whenever you see the words 'sources say' in the fake news media, and they don't mention names.......it is very possible that those sources don't exist but are made up by fake news writers. #FakeNews is the enemy!


    SO based on Trump's own tweets this FOX News tweet is FAKE NEWS.........right?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    NOTICE just how Trump a supposedly descendent of a German continues his German bashing.....

    Donald J. Trump‏
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    We have a MASSIVE trade deficit with Germany, plus they pay FAR LESS than they should on NATO & military. Very bad for U.S. This will change

    LAST time I checked Germany is not about to change simply for Trump.....

    WHAT is far more interesting is then the proTrump trolling that kicks in on
    is tweet from a known white nationalist.

    Mike Tokes‏
    #@MikeTokes
    John Podesta should be in jail.
    Hillary Clinton should be in jail.
    The evidence provided by wikileaks is overwhelming.

    Please investigate the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich. Intimidation has been used to silence anyone talking about it. Liberal fascism...

    The portland killer was a left wing Bernie supporter who wanted to kill trump voters.
    These are not alt-right events.
    BUT WAIT he was verbally abusing two female Muslims and the two he killed..one was a Republican Iraqi vet....

    Meanwhile you have Antifa, a left wing domestic terrorist organization inciting violence and rioting in your city yet you do NOTHING. Shame!

    Congressional democrats are trying feverishly to bury this story. @OANN has wiped its website clean of reports on Seth Rich #ExposeTheLeft

    The fake news media is nothing more than a globalist propaganda outlet.
    NOW we are seeing the massive creation of FAKE twitter accounts around the term Antifa....

    There's been a spike in the creation of fake Twitter accounts that claim to be linked to anti-fascists/Antifa:
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilver...am#.nyYN9OMdx#

    BUT WAIT.....
    Top Portland Republican thinks it's "appropriate" to hire right-wing militias for security
    http://www.newsweek.com/portland-sta...enters-617353#
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    Trump raged at Abbas in Bethlehem meeting, telling Palestinian leader "you lied to me"

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-raged-...lingID=1907309

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    Why would Trump want to bring Lewandowski to the WH who just quit his firm over the discovery of lobbying for Rosneft??

    He left the company out of their demands that he register as a foreign agent under FARA....and he refused to.

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    House intel chairman: Democrats are using the Russia 'narrative' to justify Clinton's loss
    http://read.bi/2qC9sLq

    Says the man who recused himself and is facing ethnics violation charges for the illegal release of classified information....

    REMEMBER he also tried to pull off a major Trump WH assisted diversion to deflect from the Russian FBI investigation....YET he seems to have forgotten that simple fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    What you and a lot of Americans tend to forget is the following.....

    We the US are responsible for this exact problem....we drove into the heart of Germans after the war that it was their actions that resulted in Hitler and WW2 and we changed the political and educational system to reflect that idea...of no more war...at any cost.....

    CHECK the polling...Germans while not cheering for Article 5 do in high polling numbers thoroughly accept Russian as an existential threat to both Germany and Europe...and are willing to defend both from Russian attack.
    Outlaw,

    I am well aware of the Western Allies’ efforts to de-militarize the occupied Germans through education and to instill a sense of collective responsibility, in addition to a desire for liberal democracy and civic - rather than ethnic - nationalism. Yet the story is more complicated as Cold War exigencies quickly derailed social reconstruction in all of occupied Germany, with brown replaced overnight with red in the east, and unreconstructed National Socialists allowed back into power in the west.

    Much of the contemporary German opposition to militarism is derived more from the student protest movement of the late 1960s and early 1970s, which itself was a reaction to the unfinished work of de-Nazification. Given those intellectual origins and the fact that the Bundeswehr was hollowed out relatively recently and after reunification (East Germans were hardly under U.S. influence for 45 years), it is rather disingenuous to blame the U.S. for German reluctance to fulfil German military obligations today.

    As for polling…

    • From 2009 to 2015, the number of Germans having a favorable view of NATO fell from 73% to 55%
    • Most Germans are opposed to using military force to defend other NATO members (53% in Q1 2017)
    • Germans are the least supportive of defending other NATO members against Russia (only 40% in Q1 2017)
    • On the Ukrainian issue, more Germans tended to blame the West (12%) and not blame Russia (29%) than other NATO members
    • Most Germans also opposed Ukraine joining NATO or the EU, as well as NATO arming Ukraine
    • For all the German angst over Trump, most Germans believe that U.S. military support for NATO is unchanged from 2015 through 2017, and have more confidence in the U.S. (65%) than in France or Poland


    Sources: Pew Q1 2015, Pew Q1 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Right now Germans who save and they save a lot... have lost over 38B Euros on their savings and retirement plans in order for the ECB to keep the interest rate at ZERO in order to bail out Italy, Spain, Greece and others who truly overspend with their "EU credit card" and they are growing tired of it....thus they must be nudged and that was what Merkel has started to do...
    This fiscal irresponsibility in southern Europe keeps the Euro low and aids German exports to China and the United States. Moreover, German banks were more than happy to extend credit prior to the Great Recession.

    Outlaw, your mental contortions here make me feel guilty for forcing you to defend the indefensible. Merkel is a mere caretaker who only reacts to events and flails in the dark. Her nuclear phase-out was an ill-advised response to Fukushima much as her welcome for migrants was a response to media of dead children washing up on Greek and Turkish beaches. Yet her nuclear initiative made Germany more dependent upon Russian energy imports and she has quietly rolled up her welcome mat. Now, she is using the Trump presidency as a means to showboat in advance of key elections. Yawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Outlaw,

    I am well aware of the Western Allies’ efforts to de-militarize the occupied Germans through education and to instill a sense of collective responsibility, in addition to a desire for liberal democracy and civic - rather than ethnic - nationalism. Yet the story is more complicated as Cold War exigencies quickly derailed social reconstruction in all of occupied Germany, with brown replaced overnight with red in the east, and unreconstructed National Socialists allowed back into power in the west.

    Much of the contemporary German opposition to militarism is derived more from the student protest movement of the late 1960s and early 1970s, which itself was a reaction to the unfinished work of de-Nazification. Given those intellectual origins and the fact that the Bundeswehr was hollowed out relatively recently and after reunification (East Germans were hardly under U.S. influence for 45 years), it is rather disingenuous to blame the U.S. for German reluctance to fulfil German military obligations today.

    As for polling…

    • From 2009 to 2015, the number of Germans having a favorable view of NATO fell from 73% to 55%
    • Most Germans are opposed to using military force to defend other NATO members (53% in Q1 2017)
    • Germans are the least supportive of defending other NATO members against Russia (only 40% in Q1 2017)
    • On the Ukrainian issue, more Germans tended to blame the West (12%) and not blame Russia (29%) than other NATO members
    • Most Germans also opposed Ukraine joining NATO or the EU, as well as NATO arming Ukraine
    • For all the German angst over Trump, most Germans believe that U.S. military support for NATO is unchanged from 2015 through 2017, and have more confidence in the U.S. (65%) than in France or Poland


    Sources: Pew Q1 2015, Pew Q1 2017



    This fiscal irresponsibility in southern Europe keeps the Euro low and aids German exports to China and the United States. Moreover, German banks were more than happy to extend credit prior to the Great Recession.

    Outlaw, your mental contortions here make me feel guilty for forcing you to defend the indefensible. Merkel is a mere caretaker who only reacts to events and flails in the dark. Her nuclear phase-out was an ill-advised response to Fukushima much as her welcome for migrants was a response to media of dead children washing up on Greek and Turkish beaches. Yet her nuclear initiative made Germany more dependent upon Russian energy imports and she has quietly rolled up her welcome mat. Now, she is using the Trump presidency as a means to showboat in advance of key elections. Yawn.
    Your responses are actually quite interesting for their negativity towards Germany???

    BUT here is again where you are so off base one and why wonders about your comments.....

    Yet her nuclear initiative made Germany more dependent upon Russian energy imports and she has quietly rolled up her welcome mat.
    Seems that you completely failed to notice that the green power of wind, water and solar have actually virtually replaced the nuclear capacity and that it now produces roughly 32% of current power needs......AND right now they are the defacto leaders of green power technology and green products...leaders in wind turbine technology and design.......

    EU working on expanding its global trade network.
    - Germany pushes for post-Brexit EU trade deal with India.
    http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-in...-brexit-deal/#

    Next time get your facts straight.....and basically get back onto the thread....

    BTW...Azor you really do need to get your facts straight......the US for example had only a 25 supply of artillery and tank ammo.in US German depots..for Desert Storm it was determined that a 90 day supply had to be in KSA if Desert Storm was to kick off....

    German emptied all ammo depots and stripped ammo from their tanks units and shipped it to KSA.....

    BTW all movement of 7 Corp heavy units in Germany was conducted by heavy German truck haulers and all available German rail....so again get your facts straight...

    BUT WAIT........
    White House says Trump has a strong relationship with Merkel, 'they get along very well.'
    http://reut.rs/

    German intelligence service has declined the help of the U.S. in safeguarding their upcoming election, German official tells @NBCNews.
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    Azor ...you did notice that even UK broke a record this previous week when green power produced allowed them to completely come off coal powered power sources....they indirectly have noticed exactly what the Germans have discovered.....

    Right now a large amount of produced German green power is being exported thus cash earning as they slowly come off even coal...

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    Sean Spicer refuses to answer whether President Trump knew about Jared Kushner’s back channels with Russia

    Spicer: Trump's relations with Merkel "fairly unbelievable" & his trip strengthened NATO.

    Orwell in Wonderland propaganda, folks.


    Merkel: "We can't rely on the US anymore. I have experienced this in the last days. We Europeans should take destiny in our own hands"
    This is German for "fairly unbelievable"
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    Kellyanne Conway insists Jared Kushner was right to set up secret communications with Russia

    Wait What? She admitted it?


    They had parts of 4 days to get the Kushner story straight and WH has decided not to clarify anything or offer much of an alternative explanation other than it was those sneaky Russians......with a "source" from FOX News....
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    AND from two very strong Russian supporters....

    Glenn Greenwald just said leaks are unethical, Julian Assange thinks the President should be able to do secret business without interference

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    Russia investigation has expanded to include Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen, ABC reports.

    A key player who was first pointed out in the Steele Dossier and it goes to the 12M USD being offered out of the Rosneft sell in exchange for lifting Russian sanctions...

    BUT....
    Again: #KremlinGate is a dirty money scandal to which espionage is merely an outgrowth. It's really about decades of financial illegalities.
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    Fmr Rep David Jolly (R) brilliantly refuted absurd claim that Trump strengthened NATO, listing devastating fails of an America in retreat.

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    Michael McFaul‏
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    Many assume Putin seeks concrete concessions from Trump. But maybe he just seeks chaos, disruption, & disarray within the US and the West?

    It is all about political warfare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    HIGHLY unusual bot activity around Trump twitter account .....this many bots which are largely computer driven and from outside the US is totally out of the norm even for Twitter....

    @realDonaldTrump has gained over 5 mil followers in less than 3 days. Take a look- mostly bots.

    Someone is playing with Twitter statistics/trends and or follower numbers and or is waiting to unleash a major bot assualt on something....or someone ......

    Simply not normal.....this warning from those that watch such buildup of Twitter bots.....DO NOT CLICK ON LINKS of TWEETS w/ TEASER LINES.

    Tons of new accts w/ no profile pic or bio. Like this:
    THIS is the mark of a computer controlled series of bot accounts....


    MIT research has indicated that Twitter in fact has the potential of 45M bots accounts that they do not realize actually exist...so this 5M in three days tends to confirm this research....Twitter at first denied this but stated "they would look into it"...
    I'm tracking *45's number right now. He is growing by around 100 bots a minute. Appears to be a propaganda army.

    Trump can use this bot army to push HIS topics/hashtags to trending. His "war room" can use this social media effort to form narratives

    Twitter a few years ago went on a bot-killing rampage; some accounts lost 100,000s of followers. Wonder if they'll do it again with Trump...

    BTW this is exactly how the Russian troll army works that is controlled and based in St. Petersberg Russia...
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    JΞSŦΞR ✪ ΔCŦUΔL³³º¹‏#@th3j35t3r

    #FLASH Multiple people now reporting their account followed @realdonaldtrump without them doing it. Check ur account.


    Accounts that have never followed @realdonaldtrimp account are suddenly being defined by Twitter as Followers...then unchecked and then suddenly back as Followers with the end user not making any changes....

    Amazing to see Trump's Twitter account bloat up today with non-tweeting bots...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Your responses are actually quite interesting for their negativity towards Germany???
    I have no negativity towards Germany. I have quite a fondness for the country and its people. What I dislike is the utter hypocrisy in the German popular discourse that masquerades as some sort of virtuous enlightenment.

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    Seems that you completely failed to notice that the green power of wind, water and solar have actually virtually replaced the nuclear capacity and that it now produces roughly 32% of current power needs......

    Next time get your facts straight...and basically get back onto the thread....
    No, I have not. The fact is that Merkel made no effort to coordinate the foreign and climate aspects of her energy policy when she initiated the nuclear phase-out. Indeed, until Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, natural gas – of which Russia provided 39% - played a key role in German energy plans through 2035.

    While renewable energy has replaced much of the declining nuclear capacity, gas and coal remain stubborn contributors. Merkel had no problem phasing out German nuclear energy and building the Nord Stream to Russia, circumventing other EU members. The U.S. was the first to slap sanctions on Russia, which are more comprehensive than those of the EU, as the latter conveniently excludes Russian gas.

    You have a disturbing disposition to bend and sway whichever way the hot air from Clinton and Merkel blows. Both are virtuous reincarnations of Jeanne d’Arc, of course, and neither would ever twist facts or play to their audiences…

    As for this thread, it was created as a dumping ground for you, so as usual the topic is whatever suits your fancy…

    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09
    ...the US for example had only a 25 supply of artillery and tank ammo.in US German depots…for Desert Storm it was determined that a 90 day supply had to be in KSA if Desert Storm was to kick off....

    German emptied all ammo depots and stripped ammo from their tanks units and shipped it to KSA...

    BTW all movement of 7 Corp heavy units in Germany was conducted by heavy German truck haulers and all available German rail...so again get your facts straight…
    I was wondering what this fun fact had to do with the price of rice. But I suppose this is your way of claiming that the German contribution to Desert Storm over a generation ago is grounds to excuse Germany from the 2% agreed-upon defense spending target, and to gift it nuclear weapons…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    I have no negativity towards Germany. I have quite a fondness for the country and its people. What I dislike is the utter hypocrisy in the German popular discourse that masquerades as some sort of virtuous enlightenment.



    No, I have not. The fact is that Merkel made no effort to coordinate the foreign and climate aspects of her energy policy when she initiated the nuclear phase-out. Indeed, until Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, natural gas – of which Russia provided 39% - played a key role in German energy plans through 2035.

    While renewable energy has replaced much of the declining nuclear capacity, gas and coal remain stubborn contributors. Merkel had no problem phasing out German nuclear energy and building the Nord Stream to Russia, circumventing other EU members. The U.S. was the first to slap sanctions on Russia, which are more comprehensive than those of the EU, as the latter conveniently excludes Russian gas.

    You have a disturbing disposition to bend and sway whichever way the hot air from Clinton and Merkel blows. Both are virtuous reincarnations of Jeanne d’Arc, of course, and neither would ever twist facts or play to their audiences…

    As for this thread, it was created as a dumping ground for you, so as usual the topic is whatever suits your fancy…



    I was wondering what this fun fact had to do with the price of rice. But I suppose this is your way of claiming that the German contribution to Desert Storm over a generation ago is grounds to excuse Germany from the 2% agreed-upon defense spending target, and to gift it nuclear weapons…
    Waste of time to continue......if you can prove that all of the current Trump actions along with his WH and his recent overseas trip has contributed greatly to world peace, that he as resolved the Palestinian issue and he has "eradicated IS and AQ from the earth"...then post it...

    BTW prove he has "earned millions of back payments from NATO members" for American taxpayers and let me know the amount and where the money went in the US.

    Otherwise get back to the thread and do not sidetrack...same tactic you often do on other sites...

    The inherent question is actually why???

    Concerning this thread...the last time I checked you had massively rejected the Steel dossier and basically assumed that Russian connections were some kind of farce..I can go back and bring up your various posted comments.

    So any comments now??

    Federal Marshals Execute Seizure Warrants At Trump Tower and Manafort's Apartment for ALL electronic media

    FBI searches were also carried out for his electronic media in other locations as well....

    We have Kushner now "claiming the Russians did it" about the back channel that was to use Russian diplomatic comms and if you look at all the Trump WH denials NO one completely said this particular meeting NEVER occurred.....

    We have the German call out of Trump now being "flipped" and Trump saying..."that is what I wanted them to do all along AFTER the finger was pointed at his FP failures.

    Any 3rd grader can flip anything...BUT a soon to be 72 year old conducting what a 3rd grader can do is basically embarassing to watch...

    BTW..notice that while Kushners lawyer keeps stating he wants to openly answer all questions around his Russian "deal" he somehow does not get around to openly stating his "story" does he..if you are innocent one would normally be beating down the door to get it into the public domaine....

    BUT suddenly he is MIA is he not????

    Let's cross back the extremism thread that you also comment on....NOTICE that there was a DISTINCT SILENCE from the personal Trjump used twitter account condemning this attack and supporting their families....FOR a full FIVE days after the attack....

    WHEN MSM and social media pushed this problem SUDDENLY a Trump tweet came from the official President account not used personally by Trump so it came from a office worker.........

    Care to WHY when three Americans were killed by white supremacists within 10 days and not a single American has been killed by a Muslim immigrant from the so called banned seven countries in the last 40 years THE President is MIA in his comments...???
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    Obstruction of the Russian investigation...so looks like it.....

    Nunes, who still controls House Intel's subpoena power, says Dems are using Russia probe to justify Clinton's loss.

    Nunes who in a night time operation claimed in a press conference to "have intel that proved Trump was not connected to Russia"...BUT then it turned out the info came from the WH....

    In the process of "talking about this so called intel" he violated security and is thus now under a House ethnics violation investigation....

    THEN he claims to have "recused himself from the Russian investigation"....

    NOW we see he did not....SEEMS he "recused himself" just like Sessions did when he fired Comey who was involved in the Russian investigation....

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    Russian purchases of one third of Trump 500 units truly assisted Trump in surviving the real estate recession.....
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.cc246a8eecf0

    Let's see that is about 160 or so units....

    It is a well known fact that on the UK virtually all of the Russian real estate purchases are via unnamed LLCs located in a tax haven....OR what UK states is extensive "Russian black money laundering".....and which now has been stopped by a new law....BUT only after investigative journalists documented it and how extensive it was...

    AND Trump has no Russian connections????

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