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    Many need to keep this in mind when dealing with things around Russia and Putin.....

    "Aggressive patriotism has become the psychological foundation for a whole nation..."
    https://granta.com/russia-verge-nervous-breakdown/#


    One might in fact say we are seeing a similar trend in certain voting blocks inside the US right now.....

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    Very much enjoying the German press at the moment. "Earth to Trump..."BTW in the small print at the bottom is states "Is Trump now a danger for all of us"????

    Trump is currently doing more to unify EU around Germany and France than anything done by the US in the last 25 years....even the US climate supporting groups, companies and US States are receiving high praise from all of EU....and Merkel stated they can look forward to receiving EU support in the coming years.....as climate change effects everyone regardless of political party.

    Heck even the Chinese and India are now closer than ever to the EU....and vice versa....

    BUT WAIT..Trump's response was "this is what I have wanted all along"?????

    I am not so sure he fully understands what he has unleashed with this "idea of his"????
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    White House is silent after Putin's election hack taunts:
    http://on.msnbc.com/2rsq8H3

    Kind of eliminates that Trump lame excuse of a 400lb kid on a bed and the Chinese does it not????

    Hate to say it..but anyone watching this Putin press conference inherently knows Putin was threatening Trump....Putin did this drill before when he deliberately was at first stating no Russians in eastern Ukraine then switching saying there were and then suddenly saying no there were none....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Again US MSM confirming what two social media journalists reported on three weeks ago...that Trump AG Sessions is also under FBI Russian collusion investigation...

    The Associated Press‏
    @AP
    BREAKING: Special counsel's Trump campaign investigation includes Manafort case, may expand to include Attorney General Sessions.

    Sessions was caught lying which was actually perjury in his Senate confirmations to once meeting the Russian Ambassador outside of his Senate dealings....THEN he submitted a statement indicating he "had forgotten" one meeting...NOW there is photo evidence of at least two more meetings not covered by his "first single meeting statement...
    HUGE story because it:

    -states Mueller views his authority as including possible Trump admin obstruction

    -quotes Rosenstein accepting that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Despite differences, Germany still needs to find common ground with US in the Middle East

    By David P. Goldman at The Asia Times:
    You do realize that..that "so called beer talk of the EU Army" is being exercised right now in the Baltics under German command leadership.....??
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    House Russia probe veers close to dysfunction at end of rocky week

    Nunes' decision to send out subpoenas re-opened old wounds and allegations that he was coordinating with the White House to undercut the House Russia investigation.
    "We have very little insight into what the chairman is doing here. I think the only guidance we can get is that we hear coming out of the White House," Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer Thursday.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/02/po...tee/index.html

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    I seriously do not believe Trump and his merry band of white nationalists really "get it"....

    14 US States support the Paris agreements CA being the 6th LARGEST world economy
    20 major large US corporations and leading investment banks and other large banks support it....

    So what was Trump and his merry band thinking....that really a general election minority elected President was some how empowered to override the interest of the majority that did not vote for him and his merry band????

    AND when Trump talks about protecting US jobs and the coal industry REMEMBER there are only 78,000 working in the coal industry and that counts everyone including office workers VS literally thousands now in the Green alternative energies.....and the Green jobs are growing by the hundreds weekly now...VS stagnation in the coal industry....
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    Azor...for the first time US MSM now talks about this.....it was not Trump that caused this but rather Russia .......

    Not Trump's doing: "In 2016 non-US NATO defense spending ticked up by $10 bil#lion, an in#crease of 3.8%."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/europe-...es-1496444305#

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    White House eyes Bannon ally for top broadcasting post
    With sweeping new powers, the position would oversee public media reaching 100 countries
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    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...vernors-239022

    This will be the white nationalist counterpart to the Russia Today and Sputnik propaganda media outlets that pumps out thousands of hours of propaganda to 127 countries....

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    "Sophisticated US leadership is the sine qua non of a stable world order..." — Dr. Brzezinski
    https://twitter.com/zbig/status/860177803194630144#

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    "US under Trump will be the cleanest & most environmentally friendly country on Earth"

    WHAT is extremely interesting is that none of these leaders nor their governments have indicated that such a conversation has taken place...as it definitely would have been mentioned in the German press as the Trump hyprocrisy would have been pointed it...

    BUT WAIT...THEN supposedly he calls FOX News for their take on his leaving the agreement....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Very much enjoying the German press at the moment. "Earth to Trump..."BTW in the small print at the bottom is states "Is Trump now a danger for all of us"????
    Putin's political war against the US has three geopolitical strategic goals he has never come off of since 2004.......and he has actually voiced them since then....and AGAIN in his last press conference and interview..

    AND this is extremely important.....he views Trump as the way to achieve those three geopolitical goals....

    1. damage and discredit NATO
    2. damage and discredit EU
    3. completely disconnect US from Europe and ME

    Trump's actions and attitudes in the NATO, EU and G7 massively moved Putin's goals forward...the core question is WHY...and for many Europeans it is because he is tied to Russia and Putin....


    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp

    BRUSSELS — A day after President Trump pulled out of a key climate agreement, declaring he was fighting for “Pittsburgh, not Paris,” an international realignment was already taking shape on Friday, as European and Chinese officials signed a raft of agreements to bind themselves tightly together.
    The pullout left the United States as a global outlier, and, many European leaders and experts said, a severely diminished force in the world. And it gave China fresh weight in a newly unbalanced landscape where longtime U.S. allies are searching for stability.
    Friday’s landmark moves came after German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared this week that Europe must stand on its own, and after she had a warm Berlin tete-a-tete this week with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, an up-and-coming rival to U.S. global power.
    “Today China and Europe have demonstrated solidarity with future generations and responsibility for the whole planet. We are convinced that yesterday’s decision by the United States to leave the Paris agreement is a big mistake,” European Council President Donald Tusk said Friday after meeting with Chinese Prime Minister Li Keqiang. But, he said, “Strong transatlantic ties are far more important and far more durable than the latest unfortunate decisions of the U.S. administration.”
    Li also said that China’s relations with Europe were more important than ever, given “destabilizing factors” in the world.
    “A stable China-E.U. relationship is useful to counter the uncertainties in this world,” he said.
    In a single Brussels meeting last week, Trump blasted European leaders for their handling of defense spending, called for terrorists to be “humiliated” and bragged behind closed doors that he had already done more to fight terrorism than President Barack Obama did in four years.
    The 3 ½ days of meetings between Trump and the Europeans may stand as a turning point in an alliance that was born from the ashes of World War II, as Europe turns toward China and other economic partners it views as more stable. Many senior European officials were jolted by the talks, which started in the winding streets of Brussels and continued on to muggy Sicily. They said they had made a mistake by allowing themselves to be lulled by Trump’s more conventional-sounding Cabinet members.
    “Anti-Americanism will bloom,” said Tomas Valasek, a former Slovak ambassador to NATO who is now the head of the Carnegie Europe think tank. “It will be much harder to politically explain to the European publics that we would cooperate with the U.S. president, because Donald Trump has made himself so unpopular now.”
    Now, many European officials say, they are steeling themselves for years of conflict with Trump, and searching for other partners in areas such as climate change, where the United States has become a roadblock. In other arenas, such as defense, Europeans are far more dependent on the American security umbrella, though they are scrambling to achieve self-sufficiency now that they fear the validity of U.S. guarantees.
    The European message has been unusually tough.
    “Nothing is renegotiable in the Paris accords,” France’s new president, Emmanuel Macron, told Trump in a five-minute phone call after Trump pulled out of the agreement, according to an official briefed on the conversation. “The United States and France will continue to work together, but not on the subject of the climate,” he was described as telling Trump.
    And on Friday, the French government redid the video the White House released to promote the decision, marking it up with comments that derided Trump’s reasoning.
    It is a sharp comedown from just eight days ago, when European hopes were high after the first leg of Trump’s international trip. On his swing through the Middle East, the U.S. leader laid off his punchy Twitter habit and offered conciliatory messages to assembled monarchs and other leaders.#
    This account of Trump’s European visit is based on interviews with more than 10 E.U. diplomats, officials and people familiar with the trip. Many spoke on the condition of anonymity because they feared further strain with the United States.
    Trump touched down in Brussels on a sunny Wednesday afternoon. After munching fine chocolates with the Belgian prime minister, Charles Michel, and locking with Macron in a white-knuckled handshake that the French leader was later to call “a moment of truth,” Trump rolled up on Thursday to dedicate NATO’s new glass-and-steel headquarters.
    Diplomats had been told that Trump would recommit the United States to the all-for-one, one-for-all principle of the defense alliance, which he had questioned on the campaign trail. But the president — who told the authoritarian leaders of the Middle East that he was “not here to lecture” — blasted America’s closest allies for being “unfair” to U.S. taxpayers. Standing in front of a twisted beam from the World Trade Center, Trump said they owed money to the alliance and offered no high-flown praises of the idealistic principles on which NATO was founded.
    As the world’s cameras rolled, Luxembourg Prime Minister Xavier Bettel wiggled his eyebrows and leaned over to whisper to Macron. The normally disciplined Merkel later said it was all she could do not to make a face as Trump spoke, according to someone who traveled back to Germany with her.
    Sitting down for dinner, Trump continued on the theme, railing for more than five minutes against the alliance, speaking off the top of his head.
    “The United States has not been treated fairly,” Trump said, according to a senior European diplomat who took notes at the dinner. “It has been taken advantage of.”
    “He clearly discarded the nice words for the shock-and-awe effect. And this he clearly achieved,” the diplomat said. “We saw it on everyone’s faces during the meeting.”
    Trump also mixed domestic partisan politics into his comments, the diplomat said — an unusual step in the usually nonpartisan world of NATO. He was matched only by the Kremlin-friendly Czech president, Milos Zeman, who did something similar, according to the diplomat.
    The Trump administration “achieved more in eight weeks than Obama did in four years” against terrorism, the president said, according to the NATO diplomat. Trump called for “ruthlessness in stamping out the terrorists,” saying they should be “humiliated,” the diplomat said.
    NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg tried to put a bright face on the meeting at its conclusion, saying Trump sent a “strong signal” of commitment just by coming to NATO in the first place.##
    But others had a starkly grimmer conclusion.
    “We have just witnessed President Trump putting an end to European-American relations,” said François Heisbourg, a French defense expert who advised Macron during his campaign.
    “By talking about NATO as a transactional alliance,” he said, “it’s very difficult to rebuild that kind of inbuilt trust.”
    The contention continued the next day in Sicily at the Group of Seven summit, where leaders implored Trump to stay in the Paris agreement. He refused to commit, leading a dejected Merkel to exit the talks with an unusually grim assessment.
    The next day, she told a beer-tent rally in Munich that Europe “must take its fate into its own hands,” offering poor prospects for cooperation with Washington.
    A top Merkel confidant said that Trump seems to be more focused on winning votes than on embracing the mantle of leader of the free world.
    “You get the feeling that sometimes the U.S. president first and foremost speaks to his voters in the U.S. and not as the leader of the biggest and most important country in the world,” said Jürgen Hardt, the foreign policy spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democrats, who is a key Merkel ally.
    Analysts say that German elections in September may be sharpening voices in that country, which is turning into Trump’s loudest rival.
    “People aren’t holding their punches like they once did,” said Robin Niblett, the head of the London-based Chatham House, a think tank.
    European leaders kept close tabs on the White House’s thinking in the days after the talks, sucked into the reality-TV-type suspense that Trump fed with a weekend tweet promising an announcement in the days ahead.#
    But when Trump stepped into the Rose Garden on Thursday to pull his nation from the agreement, Europeans were quick to hit back.
    Trump’s face-to-face meeting with the Belgian prime minister may have been cordial. But on Thursday, Michel minced no words after the White House announcement.
    “I condemn this brutal act,” Michel wrote on Twitter. “Leadership means fighting climate change together. Not forsaking commitment.”
    So again WHY does Trump do this ..either knowingly and again then for what reasons or simply out of stupidity????
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    "US under Trump will be the cleanest & most environmentally friendly country on Earth"

    WHAT is extremely interesting is that none of these leaders nor their governments have indicated that such a conversation has taken place...as it definitely would have been mentioned in the German press as the Trump hyprocrisy would have been pointed it...

    BUT WAIT...THEN supposedly he calls FOX News for their take on his leaving the agreement....
    One of those called in this Trump WH announcement is indicating that the call occurred BUT is also indicating that what the WH wrote about Trump's comments to him IS in fact not true....and that person did not go into whether the lie was blatant or not....

    THIS is not the first time the Trump WH has put out a summation of conversations with foreign leaders that does not quite match ground reality...and again the serious question is why not???

    AND far more importantly the Trump WH summation does not include what comments were made to Trump by those that were called...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Putin's political war against the US has three geopolitical strategic goals he has never come off of since 2004.......and he has actually voiced them since then....and AGAIN in his last press conference and interview..

    AND this is extremely important.....he views Trump as the way to achieve those three geopolitical goals....

    1. damage and discredit NATO
    2. damage and discredit EU
    3. completely disconnect US from Europe and ME

    Trump's actions and attitudes in the NATO, EU and G7 massively moved Putin's goals forward...the core question is WHY...and for many Europeans it is because he is tied to Russia and Putin....


    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp



    So again WHY does Trump do this ..either knowingly and again then for what reasons or simply out of stupidity????
    SECONDLY and FAR MORE IMPORTANTLY...this above article reflects the simple fact that Mattis, Tillerson and Pence has been totally discredited in the eyes of European leaders because they feel they were totally misled and setup by them for this Trump abuse....

    WHAT Trump and his merry band of white nationalists failed to fully and completely understand is that Europe tailored these meetings towards Trump and built in elements that would address some of Trump's voiced issues...AND then were caught flat footed by his actions and statements...

    With past President's this would not have been so stated by a SecDef....

    James Mattis asks US allies to 'bear with us' amid backlash over isolationism
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/..._iOSApp_Other#

    WHAT Mattis simply does not "get" is that he has been both privately and publicly discredited because of what he has previously told Europeans and then What and how Trump conducted himself...Europeans will simply look at him, listen to him in the future and nod their heads and then tell him to his face..."show us the money"...meaning Trump statements and actions have countered your statements and actions....thus we do not believe what you are saying until your Boss tells us personally....or via Twitter...

    Mattis...
    The secretary of defense added it would be a ‘crummy world’ if Americans retreat, as US leadership and international commitment came under question

    “Yet despite the enormous admiration allies have for Mattis, every question was some version of, ‘How can we believe you when the president talks and acts so differently?’ added Schake, who was a senior defense official in the Bush administration.
    BUT WAIT..it has in fact come under question ALL caused by a sitting US President that hired Mattis....
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    Indication of just how bad US politics has become....

    Bill Maher, a comedian, uses the n-word and everyone wants him to lose his job.

    Jeff Sessions says it, believes it, has a history around it, and commits perjury and he becomes Attorney General

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    Per Putin 2017 statement these Russian Army GRU SOF operators in Crimea in 2014 are "patriotically minded artists"
    https://twitter.com/krymrealii/statu...4025992019968#

    BUT for Trump it was and still is that 400 lb. kid on a bed with a laptop....that hacked DNC......
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    Rogozin foresees collapse of NATO. Right after collapse of USD. Which he and his colleagues foresaw 15 years ago.
    https://twitter.com/ru_rbc/status/870688514484035584#

    So the inherent question is and it should be...IS Trump actively supporting this main Russian geopolitical goal????
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    Trump uses London terror attack to push his travel ban
    http://toi.sr/2rFez1n
    # via @timesofisrael

    Donald J. Trump‏
    #@realDonaldTrump

    We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

    WHAT Trump apparently does not seem to fully and completely understand is that most of those so called terrorists "are home grown" not immigrants fro Muslim countries holding a visa....

    He sent out this tweet before he offered condolences to UK.....which came as the next tweet......so he really does not care how many were killed or injured as long as it drives his Muslim Ban....

    BUT WAIT...Trump's own DoJ lawyers have been arguing that it is not a Muslim Ban in Federal Appeals Court which has been soundly rejected...NOW Trump himself used the "Banned" word.....
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    Trump campaign just blasted out an email that contains a link to InfoWars in its support to Trump's leaving the Climate Agreement...

    Infowars run by Alex Jones who in court defined himself as a "performance artist" and which is a leading alt right ie white nationalist blogsite not a true news media outlet...

    Trump campaign is citing Infowars which stated that the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax. They also have stated 9/11 was an inside job not a jihadi attack.....
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    How many of the BRAND NEW bots created to follow @RealDonaldTrump are now tweeting out racist propaganda on the UK? 100%.

    Massive and sudden spike in new bots that were "following Trump" in pushing out completely racist comments referring to the London attack....the same messaging was being used..thus a solid indication that this Trump botnet is computer controlled and not individuals....

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