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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Trump uses London terror attack to push his travel ban
    http://toi.sr/2rFez1n
    # via @timesofisrael

    Donald J. Trump‏
    #@realDonaldTrump

    We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

    WHAT Trump apparently does not seem to fully and completely understand is that most of those so called terrorists "are home grown" not immigrants fro Muslim countries holding a visa....

    He sent out this tweet before he offered condolences to UK.....which came as the next tweet......so he really does not care how many were killed or injured as long as it drives his Muslim Ban....

    BUT WAIT...Trump's own DoJ lawyers have been arguing that it is not a Muslim Ban in Federal Appeals Court which has been soundly rejected...NOW Trump himself used the "Banned" word.....
    How the Soviet Union Transformed Terrorism
    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...rorism/250433/

    The USSR developed two tools that changed the world: airplane hijackings and state-sponsorship of terror

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    It is interesting to see how some "leftists" crossed over and suddenly became "right wingers on a mission"...which if thoroughly understood they are doing exactly what Bannon who himself professed to wanting to be "Lenin"..destroy the existing US government....

    Long read but really worth the reading as it goes into facts, names and organizations many Americans do not know exist....

    How a ‘shadow’ universe of charities joined with right wing political warriors to fuel Trump’s rise
    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/...cid=spartandhp

    The crowd rose to its feet and roared its approval as Sen. Jeff Sessions bounded onto the stage at the Breakers, an exclusive resort in Palm Beach, Fla. Stephen Miller, an aide to the Alabama Republican, handed him a glass trophy honoring his bravery as a lawmaker.
    “Heyyyy!” Sessions yelled out to the crowd.
    The ceremony that day, in November 2014, turned out to be a harbinger: It brought together an array of hard-right activists and a little-known charity whose ideas would soon move from the fringes of the conservative movement into the heart of the nation’s government.
    The man behind the event was David Horowitz, a former ’60s radical who became an intellectual godfather to the far right through his writings and his work at a charity, the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Since its formation in 1988, the Freedom Center has helped cultivate a generation of political warriors seeking to upend the Washington establishment. These warriors include some of the most powerful and influential figures in the Trump administration: Attorney General Sessions, senior policy adviser Miller and White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon.
    Long before Trump promised to build a wall, ban Muslims and abandon the Paris climate accord, Horowitz used his tax-exempt group to rail against illegal immigrants, the spread of Islam and global warming. Center officials described Hillary Clinton as evil, President Barack Obama as a secret communist and the Democratic Party as a front for enemies of the United States.
    The Freedom Center has declared itself a “School for Political Warfare,” and it is part of a loose nationwide network of like-minded charities linked together by ideology, personalities, conservative funders and websites, including the for-profit Breitbart News.
    Horowitz’s story shows how charities have become essential to modern political campaigns, amid lax enforcement of the federal limits on their involvement in politics, while taking advantage of millions of dollars in what amount to taxpayer subsidies.
    In interviews with The Washington Post, Horowitz, 78, acknowledged the Freedom Center’s partisan mission and said its aim is to protect “traditional American values” against adversaries on the left, who operate their own network of charities. “This is a shadow political universe,” he said.
    Horowitz makes a good living as the Freedom Center chief executive, earning $583,000 from a charity that received $5.4#million in donations in 2015, according to the latest available records. But he said he has come to believe that his group and others across the political spectrum ought to be reined in to ensure they fulfill the original spirit of the Internal Revenue Service’s charitable rules, even though such overhauls would be “personally devastating for me.”
    “They should redefine what a charity is,” he said. “A charity should be something that helps everybody.”
    The IRS prohibits charities from directly or indirectly participating in political campaigns, for or against candidates.
    In an essay he published online in response to The Post’s questions after refusing further interviews, Horowitz wrote the center “does not engage in political activities in the narrow sense used in the I.R.S. code.”
    A lefty moves right
    Horowitz looks like a professor, with a salt-and-pepper goatee and small oval glasses. He speaks with a scratchy voice that carries strong hints of his New York roots. He is quick to use fiery rhetoric and no-holds-barred tactics he had learned as a student radical.
    Horowitz was a “red diaper baby” of communist parents in New York City. After attending Columbia University in the 1950s, he enrolled as a graduate student at the University of California at Berkeley, an anchor of leftist thinking.
    Over the next two decades, he took on prominent roles in the New Left. He served as an editor of Ramparts, an influential muckraking magazine in San Francisco.
    But by the late 1970s, he had decided that the left represented a profound threat to the United States. On March#17, 1985, he and a writing partner came out as conservatives in a surprising Washington Post Magazine article headlined “Lefties for Reagan.”
    In August 1988, Horowitz launched the Center for the Study of Popular Culture in Los Angeles, a nonprofit group that would become the Freedom Center.
    Charities have been around since the nation’s beginning, as citizens sought to help schools, churches and the poor. Decades ago, Congress created a special section of the IRS code to define and regulate charities, which are known as 501(c)(3) groups under the code. They have a special allure for donors: They can deduct contributions from their taxes.
    IRS rules give charities wide latitude, but they may not devote a “substantial part” of their resources or activities to lobbying or “carrying on propaganda.” And they “are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office,” according to the IRS.
    In his IRS application for tax-exempt status in August 1988, Horowitz wrote his center would be “entirely non-profit, non-partisan,” according to records obtained through a public records request. “It will not be organized to promote any particular political program.”
    Twenty years later, a brochure for one of the charity’s events would sharply contradict that claim: “In 1988, Horowitz created the Center for the Study of Popular Culture to institutionalize his campaigns against the Left and its anti-American agendas.”
    From the start, Horowitz was supported by contributions from stalwart conservative groups, including the John M. Olin Foundation and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, along with donations from the wealthy Scaife family of Pittsburgh.
    In 1989, he co-wrote “Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About the Sixties,” a harsh critique of the radical left. He also began hosting events. A gathering called the Wednesday Morning Club catered to conservatives in liberal Los Angeles. In the 1990s, one of the regular guests was Bannon, then a former Wall Street investor seeking to make his mark in Hollywood, according to Lionel Chetwynd, the event’s co-founder.
    “Conservatives are nervous around me, and they’re nervous because I’m very outspoken,” Horowitz told The Post. “Steve Bannon was not nervous because he’s like me.”
    Bannon did not respond to requests for interviews.

    The origin of Stephen Miller
    After the Sept.#11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Horowitz and his center argued that liberals had been too tolerant of radical Islam and illegal immigration.
    Open to that message was Stephen Miller, a 16-year-old high school student in Santa Monica, Calif. In the fall of 2001, Miller asked Horowitz for help in disputes with administrators at his school. Miller complained his teachers and classmates were insufficiently patriotic and refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance.
    Horowitz’s charity launched a group called Students for Academic Freedom, framing it as a counterweight to the dominance of the left in high schools and on college campuses. Miller formed a chapter and sought permission from school officials to invite Horowitz to the school to speak. When administrators delayed, Miller and Horowitz accused them of stifling free speech.
    Horowitz eventually spoke at the school, and in November 2002, Miller wrote about the visit in an essay in Frontpagemag.com, the online news and opinion site run by the center. Miller portrayed himself as the victim of indoctrination and called on the system’s superintendent to ensure “that his schools stress inclusive patriotism, rather than a multiculturalism.”
    When Miller went on to Duke University, he formed another chapter of Students for Academic Freedom and again invited Horowitz to speak. At the time, Horowitz had just published “The Professors: The 101 Most Dangerous Academics in America,” a book some condemned as a political blacklist.
    After graduation, Miller wanted to work in Washington. Horowitz reached out to conservatives on Capitol Hill who had supported his group. He helped Miller land jobs with four lawmakers, including former representative Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) and Sessions. “I highly recommended him to Jeff,” Horowitz told The Post.
    Miller did not respond to requests for interviews.
    Continued-

    The meet-and-greet
    On Nov.#12, 2013, Bannon hosted a book party for Horowitz at a Washington, D.C., townhouse that served as Breitbart’s capital office and Bannon’s living quarters. Horowitz had just published a compendium of anti-liberal writings called the “Black Book of the American Left.”
    As Horowitz mingled, Bannon introduced himself to Ronald Radosh, a prominent conservative intellectual and historian. Radosh had known Horowitz for a half-century and also worked his way through the ranks of the New Left before becoming a conservative.

    Continued....

    “I’m a Leninist,” Bannon said, according to Radosh. “Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
    Continued.....]
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    REMEMBER this name.....David Horowitz...was one of the driving forces and writers on the "New Left" and rose to fame after the VN war...a number of his books and articles were university required reading in political science and IR classes....during that period as he bashed the heck out of the US and it's FP......

    WHO suddenly and it is a serious question HOW does a radical left winger suddenly and completely "sell out his own core belief system????

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...david-horowitz

    David Horowitz
    Despite Horowitz being a founding intellectual member of the New Left in the 1960s, and an advocate for civil rights and equality, he has since the late 1980’s become a driving force of the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-black movements


    Background:
    David Horowitz was born on January 10, 1939, in Forest Hills, N.Y., into a household of schoolteachers and Communist Party USA members. In his 1998 memoir Radical Son, recounting his life and departure from 1960s member of the New Left, Horowitz describes the political convictions of those around him.
    Underneath the ordinary surfaces of their lives, my parents and their friends thought of themselves as secret agents. … Even if we never encountered a Soviet agent or engaged in a single illegal act, each of us knew that our commitment to socialism implied the obligation to commit treason, too.
    Horowitz moved to London following the completion of his graduate degree and began work with the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation. Established in 1963, the Foundation sought focused on human rights, social justice and peace with a particular interest in the ending the nuclear arms race. He returned to the United States five years later in 1968, where he took work as co-editor at #Ramparts, a magazine associated with the New Left movement of liberal activists seeking to drastically reform the cultural landscape with a wide range of social reforms. #
    By the 1970s, though, Horowitz had begun working with the Black Panther Party in Oakland, Calif., and formed a close relationship with the group’s co-founder, Huey P. Newton. Horowitz collected funds for the purchase of a Baptist church that was then converted into a learning center for children of members of the Black Panthers. But the relationship soon soured.
    In 1974, Betty Van Patter, Horowitz’s friend and colleague at Ramparts who he brought into the Black Panther movement, was found dead on a San Francisco Bay beach. She had been severely beaten, and Horowitz was convinced members of the Panthers were involved.
    Hugh Pearson, author of the Shadow of the Panther: Huey Newton and the Price of Black Power in American, wrote in recounting Horowitz’s feelings: “Without question, David Horowitz was extremely traumatized by what happened with Betty Van Patter, as I think anyone would be. … As a result, David just totally went berserk with regard to the left-liberal community.”#
    It isn’t an overstatement, in fact, to note that Van Patten’s death served as a grand catalyst for Horowitz’s quick departure from the radical left he helped found.
    Increasingly disillusioned with his political course in life, the decades that followed would see Horowitz adopt increasingly right-wing positions on matters of sexual promiscuity in the gay community, LGBT rights, U.S. foreign policy, the question of racial equality and affirmative action and, in 1985, he publicly announced that he had voted for Ronald Reagan the year before.
    In the essay published in The Washington Post titled “Goodbye to All That.” Horowitz and his writing partner Peter Collier –- both luminaries on the Left – came clean. “Casting our ballots for Ronald Reagan was indeed a way of saying goodbye to all that –– to the self-aggrandizing romance with corrupt Third Worldism; to the casual indulgence of Soviet totalitarianism; to the hypocritical mainstream politics,” the pair wrote.
    The essay was the beginning of a new course for Horowitz. Three years later, he founded the Center for the Study of Popular Culture (CSPC) in Los Angeles, which sought to “establish a conservative presence in Hollywood and show how popular culture had become a political battleground.” Horowitz spent much of the 1990s securing financing for the CSPC while railing against “political correctness” in American universities.
    In 1992, he began publishing the monthly tabloid “Heterodoxy,” which was “meant to have the feel of a samizdat publication inside the gulag of the PC [politically correct] university.” #The tabloid targeted university students who Horowitz viewed as being indoctrinated by the entrenched Left in American academia. Horowitz has maintained his assault on the political left to present day, and in 2005 established DiscoverTheNetworks.
    WHAT is extremely interesting is that while one can find a total of 38 Horowitz books online dating back to 2000 from the Right..you cannot seem to find a single article or book or interview from him written during his Black Panther days and even before that when Horowitz was a US Communist Party member and considered himself to be a Marxist...

    BTW...now of his Rampart articles seem to be listed in Google....
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    Reference David Horowitz.....

    '60s Activists Now Converts of the Right : Ex-Radicals of Left Support Military Buildup to Deter Soviets
    October 18, 1987|ERIC LICHTBLAU | Times Staff Writer
    http://articles.latimes.com/1987-10-...litary-buildup

    WASHINGTON — Two decades ago, David Horowitz was an editor of the radical Ramparts magazine, a leader of the frenzied student movement against the Vietnam War who called publicly for "revolution by any means necessary."
    This weekend, wearing a suit and tie while sitting at a posh Washington hotel that he once would have denounced as bourgeois, Horowitz faced more than 200 fellow "refugees from the '60s" and declared dead the liberal tenets of a movement that he once believed in passionately.
    Now a best-selling author who voted for Ronald Reagan, Horowitz is leading former left-wing activists of the 1960s--ex-members of the Young Communist League, Students for a Democratic Society and Marxist-Leninists among them--in a revisionist rebuke to a time of "destructive self-delusion."
    Support Aid for Contras
    Once violently and visibly opposed to the war in Vietnam, many of those from around the country who paid $100 to take part in this weekend's Second Thoughts Conference now favor U.S. support of the contras in Nicaragua and a military buildup to deter Soviet oppression.
    Once marchers behind the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. in civil rights demonstrations, several now say they believe that Judge Robert H. Bork should sit on the Supreme Court. And many who had once took pride in calling themselves "radicals" would now admit to being radical only in their conversion to the right of the political spectrum.
    Dramatized by Mailer
    The conference was held almost exactly 20 years after several thousand members of the "New Left" stormed the Pentagon in a tumultuous Vietnam War protest that was subsequently dramatized by author Norman Mailer in the book "Armies of the Night." But the memory of that protest--in which several here took part--generated neither homage nor nostalgia as the weekend-long panel discussions opened.
    Instead, as conferees heard conservative scholars and writers turn their "second thoughts" back to that turbulent time of flag-burning and draft-resisting, those who lived through the movement talked of "chaos and brutality," "bigotry and anti-intellectualism," "political blindness" and "moral frivolity."
    To be sure, the conference's 200 participants and two-dozen panelists, who included New Republic Editor Martin Peretz, author Michael Medved and political activist Arturo Cruz Jr., son of the contra leader, were not always in agreement in their shifts away from the liberal ideals of the 1960s and their current views on political issues.
    Former SDS Leader
    For instance, Jeff Herf, a former Wisconsin SDS leader who is now a research associate at the Naval War College, found himself forced to defend his contention that the "heady" war protests of the '60s were not a major factor one way or the other in the resolution of the Southeast Asian conflict.
    And not all have undergone the same degree of change in political thinking. David Ifshin, another 1960s activist, now supports the contras and condemns his generation's "unthinking acceptance of tenets of the New Left," although he also served as general counsel to 1984 Democratic presidential candidate Walter F. Mondale.
    But some consensus did emerge from the group, made up predominantly of white, male, middle-aged professionals. Panelists at one session agreed that their rejection of the "utopian" staples of the 1960s movement was not an overnight metamorphosis but a slow, often-painful process of realization, one marked perhaps most vividly by revulsion at the communist "gulags" of postwar Vietnam.
    That shift away from liberal beliefs "is not about Damascus Road experiences or great conversions," said Father Richard Newhaus, a former civil rights activist and war protester. "It's about stumbling and trying to find your feet again."
    Shaken by Experience
    Many--shaken by the Vietnam experience and further disillusioned by a left wing that Horowitz said "rationalizes genocide" in countries such as Cambodia and Tibet--found the answer in conservativism. They are now convinced, several said, that military strength and resistance are needed to fight the global enemies they once thought to be only imagined by the far right.
    During the student war protests of the 1960s, Herf said, he and fellow activists held a "utopian" view on the potential for democracy, world community and economic abundance. "We believed anything was possible," he said.
    But his views began to drift from the widely held liberal ideals in 1970, heightened by the effects of post-withdrawal communist rule on the Vietnamese people. The one-time activist gradually retreated from the political scene to the world of scholarship.
    Today, he said, "when I hear the word 'movement,' I reach for my books and word processor."

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    Does Sen. Jeff Sessions Think Obama Is Secretly a "Radical Machiavelli"?

    At a conservative conference organized and led by David Horowitz, this GOP senator praised a book that contends the president is a totalitarian extremist pretending to be a pragmatist.

    David CornJun. 12, 2013 6:45 AM

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...tarian-radical

    NOTICE that these Horowitz books were the core reading in a lot US universities in the 60s and 70s....
    In his Marxist days, Horowitz authored several books including Free World Colossus, Corporations and the Cold War, Empire and Revolution, Marx and Modern Economics, Shakespeare: An Existential View and The Fate of Midas, which he has subsequently repudiated.

    The Spectator, February 4, 1970
    CORPORATE CAP1TALI$M
    By Steve Mi lien Corporations and the Cold ^Jar^ edited and with an introduction by David Horowitz; New York, Monthly Review Press, 1969. The revisionist historians mirror the ideological odyssey of the movement since their disovery that the International Communist Conspiracy was a farce. David Horowitz, in The Free World Colossus and Containment and Revolution which he edited, both published in 1965, put forth the early New Left viewpoint of a liberal-turned-radical aghast at discovering that the Cold War was a front for American aggression. Yet his position was primarily that of moral outrage leaving revolutionary’ ideological response largely untouched. Corporations and the Cold WoTj the second volume in a series entitled Studies in Imperialism and the Cold War^ edited by Horowitz for the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation, is quite explicit in identifying the capitalist ruling class and their ruthless methods for the conception, growth, and governing of the American (or Free World) Empire. The six essays are well chosen, the first two being partial summaries of two books by their authors. William Donihoff's "l*/bo Made American Foreign Policy?" comes largely from his vtork^Who Rules Amerioa? as "The Large Corporation and American Foreign Policy" by William A. Williams comes for his Tragedy of Amerioan Foreign Poliay. Domhoff's essay identifies quite clearly those responsible for postwar policy, putting little blame upon the silent majority or their "democratically" elected officials, but a tiny yet mighty corporate elite. "In a summary of the role of Congress in sixteen post-war foreign policy issues that have been the object of case studies," he states, "(James A.) Robinson is able to find only one initiated by Congress and three where Congress had ’major influence'." (page 51) In America, where money is power, the creators and perpetrators of the American E^tipire are clearly identified as power elites within the foimdations, gd^emment commissions and the major 500 U.S. corporations which control two thirds of this nation's wealth. Williams skips back to the 1890s to America's most openly imperialistic era to trace its philosophical basis with Frederick Jackson Turner's Frontier Thesis (i.e. America's greatness is due to its political and economic expansion--an observation which may as well been accredited to Lenin). He sees the Open >Door Policy as being the rule rather than exception in America's twentieth century foreign policy, providing a basis for America's treatment of Qiina during the »20s and'30s. There was no alternative to economic expansion except radical economic and political changes. This was an unavoidable dilemma faced by the creators of the New Deal and America's post-war economic policy. These two major economic crises are dealt with in more detail, in chronogical order, by "The New Deal, New Frontiers, and the Cold War" by
    Corporations and the Cold War Edited and with an Introduction by David Horowitz
    Published with the Bertrend Russell Peace Foundation
    Lloyd C. Gardner, and "Business Planners and America's Post-war Expansion" by David W. Eakins. Gardner applies the Frontier Thesis to the New Deal. He tends to emphasise the role of such capitalist reformers as Henry Wallace whose far-sighted adjustments helped preserve American imperialism despite contrary myths, a sobering analogy to the Fulbrights and McGoverns of today. Yet even these adjustments were insufficient for it was the vast economic expansion brought about by the Second World war (the Frontier thesis again) which caused America to fully recover . Eakins moves ahead to the years following the World war with America's critical need for continued prosperity tied closely to the problem of keeping the war-racked nations of western Europe from going Communist. From the depression there came a new corporate awareness of the purpose of government being to keep the economy from stagnating. So overseas trade was generated through billions of dollars of aid, particularly that which passed through the Marshall plan. These funds also provided America with political leverage with the internal affairs of foreign nations. The last two essay, "Economic Effects of the Cold War" by John Phillips and the "The Militarisation of the American Economy" by Charles Nathanson are fairly good conclusive essays in that they show the results of the Frontier Thesis extended to the point of another major economic crises for America. At first impression they seem to dwell too heavily upon an overdone subject; the military-industrial complex. Yet this is unavoidable when describing our post-war economy, for large and vital segments of it are largely oriented towards the military. This is totally the opposite of the 'encystment' theory of liberal economists which contends that
    military production is isolated and inconsequential to the rest of the economy. Also important is the explosion of the liberal myth that the military is an independent rightwing force (e.g. Seben Days in May). The military, subservient to the business interests of America, may disagree with business policies, but, as do the liberal politicans, remain answerable to the corporate ruling class. The American empire is controlled by the carrot of aid and investment and the stick of the threat of military intervention and the main argument is over which tactics to use. This well integrated collection of essays provide an excellent Critique of the global ruling class. Similarly to the mercantile system, the elite exploits the world as efficiently as any absolute dictator. But the consensus of the authors of this collection is very certain that there is a rising tide of resistance to American imperialism, and another crisis is occuring. If not created at home by inconsequential student radicalism or labour militancy ("As with the corporation labour sometimes divided within itself, but it never proposed or fought militantly for a fundamentally different foreign policy."—page 73) then by the very real ■yireat of revolution in the Third World. They cautiously perceive hopeful signs of revolt and see the economy on the edge of disaster. If and when the revolution comes, it is far more feasible that it shall result from an imperialist super-power unable to exploit a militantly antagonistic Third World rather than any internally generated dissatisfaction. Corporations and the Cold War may not be as spectacular nor sell half as well as Abbie Hoffman's Woodstock Ration^ yet it remains an excellent critique of the dynamics of American imperialism and a realistic harbinger for its imminent destruction.
    Fred Gardner, a contemporary of Horowitz's during his Ramparts days, described his political transition from the left to the right in 1991:
    The phone rings and a guy in my office says, "It's David Horowitz." I haven't spoken to David Horowitz since the end of the '60s, when we both worked at Ramparts. Since then, with another former Ramparts editor, Peter Collier, this little creep has written a series of best-selling portraits of ruling class families--The Rockefellers, The Fords, The Kennedys--and boasted in print about voting for Ronald Reagan. Horowitz and Collier say they once believed fervently in left causes and institutions (from the Soviet Union to the Black Panther Party), and when they discovered these institutions to be corrupt and murderous they had to denounce them and come out for the other side.

    There are many flaws in this "logic." For openers, there aren't just two sides in this world (the fake left and the cruel right). And sure it's demoralizing to learn that the party that supposedly stands for equality is run by opportunists and actually stands for privilege. But that wouldn't lead a real radical to endorse the all-out pursuit of privilege. It should lead you to call for a movement that's serious about establishing equality. Horowitz and Collier were never radicals for a minute. Their goal was and is personal success. It's no coincidence that they were "left" in the '60s and "right" in the '80s
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    The Guardian

    @guardian
    Donald Trump criticises London mayor Sadiq Khan for the way he responded to last night's terrorist attack – live
    http://trib.al/AkfcWHP

    APPEARS that Trump is now on a twitter rant again.....

    Donald J. Trump‏
    @realDonaldTrump
    We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don't get smart it will only get worse

    At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is "no reason to be alarmed!"

    Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck!

    BUT WAIT...Trump's first tweet was that this attack supports his Muslim Ban and then condolences...AND this set of tweets.....

    So Trump has covered all his campaign talking points..1) Muslim Ban, 2) political correctness a right wing theme all the time, 3) 2nd amendment Guns and 4) chastising a Muslim London City Mayor......

    BUT WAIT....Trump twisting the "truth again".....

    @POTUS Trump twisting what London Mayor @SadiqKhan actually said
    .. "no reason to be alarmed by increased police presence"

    Mayor's quote: "Londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. No reason to be alarmed."
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    Imagine having access to the best intelligence services in the world & just re-tweeting the Drudge Report instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    How the Soviet Union Transformed Terrorism
    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...rorism/250433/
    KGB General Aleksandr Sakharovsky in1971:'when nuclear arms have made military force obsolete, terrorism should become our main weapon'

    Worth noting how Russia is exploiting terrorism for its foreign policy objectives

    Russia's Kostantin Borovoi on a new attack in Britain: "Putin has warned many times that you MUST collaborate with Russia."

    Just so readers understand the correct translation of "you MUST collaborate"....

    Третий теракт за месяц в Британии: Фургон-убийца и клинок в 25 сантиметров в центре Лондона
    https://twitter.com/kborovoi/status/871241145153662976

    BUT REMEMBER Putin told in person the UNGA he was going to be fighting (IS/AQ) terrorism in Syria and has yet to do so.....
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    Is it not interesting just how fast the term Left gets thrown around in US politics.....

    Single-Payer Party? Democrats Shift Left on Health Care
    By ALEXANDER BURNS and JENNIFER MEDINA
    Liberal Democrats have pressed lawmakers to support a single-payer health care system, and supporters say the party has moved further left on the issue.

    Germany by far one of largest healthcare nations next to Australia has a single payer system and no one has accused either of being Leftist?????

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    WH pool tells us @realDonaldTrump has arrived at his Virginia Trump National Golf Club. He visited yesterday as well.

    He can play golf but needed a golf cart to keep with the leaders of the G7 in Italy....

    Trump has been playing more golf lately than Tiger Woods....

    REMEMBER Trump in his tweets was constantly bashing Obama for playing golf....appears he has a rather short memory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    The Guardian

    @guardian
    Donald Trump criticises London mayor Sadiq Khan for the way he responded to last night's terrorist attack – live
    http://trib.al/AkfcWHP

    APPEARS that Trump is now on a twitter rant again.....

    Donald J. Trump‏
    @realDonaldTrump
    We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don't get smart it will only get worse

    At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is "no reason to be alarmed!"

    Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck!

    BUT WAIT...Trump's first tweet was that this attack supports his Muslim Ban and then condolences...AND this set of tweets.....

    So Trump has covered all his campaign talking points..1) Muslim Ban, 2) political correctness a right wing theme all the time, 3) 2nd amendment Guns and 4) chastising a Muslim London City Mayor......

    BUT WAIT....Trump twisting the "truth again".....

    @POTUS Trump twisting what London Mayor @SadiqKhan actually said
    .. "no reason to be alarmed by increased police presence"
    NBC News

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    Spokesperson for London Mayor Sadiq Khan: "He has more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump's ill-informed tweet"

    .@MrBrendanCox (wife MP Jo Cox killed by a far-right terrorist) puts @realDonaldTrump in his place–a world beneath London Mayor @SadiqKhan
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    In the middle of all the tragedy with terrorism it is important to relate as well. It's been worse

    JUST a side note....

    What's not rare in the U.S. is people dying from gunshots ... 65 Americans shot dead since London attack, over 500,000 since 9/11
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    Strange coincidence is it not?????

    Life.ru reports London terrorist attack - 4 minutes after midnight Moscow time, 2204 London, 4 minutes b4 Police receive report at 2208???!
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    Amid Trump tweets, notable there is no FBI Director; no US Ambassador to London; and the State Department is missing leaders at all levels.

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    Default Facts: the Ukraine will replace the UK?

    Citing Outlaw 09 in part, from Post 1110:
    You might have noticed that while many worry about UK leaving EU...Ukraine replaces UK far a factor of 4 in size, potential economic development and what it can export to EU and outside EU....
    Really? I do not doubt the potential of a Ukraine truly at peace to be a significant economy, but to 'replace' the UK is almost impossible.

    Economic statistics support my contention:
    1) The Ukraine's GDP US$93 billion -v- UK's US$2,629 trillion
    2) Ukraine per capita 2.1-8.3k -v- UK's US$42k
    3) Ukraine's exports & imports US$58 billion -v- UK's exports US$674 billion and imports & US$724 billion

    Stats from:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...United_Kingdom

    Leaving aside the Dutch referendum in 2016 which rejected even as EU association for the Ukraine. See:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-in-referendum
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbfpo View Post
    Citing Outlaw 09 in part, from Post 1110:

    Really? I do not doubt the potential of a Ukraine truly at peace to be a significant economy, but to 'replace' the UK is almost impossible.

    Economic statistics support my contention:
    1) The Ukraine's GDP US$93 billion -v- UK's US$2,629 trillion
    2) Ukraine per capita 2.1-8.3k -v- UK's US$42k
    3) Ukraine's exports & imports US$58 billion -v- UK's exports US$674 billion and imports & US$724 billion

    Stats from:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...United_Kingdom

    Leaving aside the Dutch referendum in 2016 which rejected even as EU association for the Ukraine. See:https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-in-referendum
    Ukraine has shown in the last two harvest years that it can and will by next years harvest replace anything in the way of agricultural shortfalls that the UK currently exports into the EU. Ukraine met the EU set export amounts in a number of agricultural product areas within four months and EU has signalled those figures will be expanded.

    Some of the major US agriculture companies and equipment makers have already signalled major investment both into Ukrainian farming and two farm machine manufacturers are building major production plants.

    It is being estimated that the Ukrainian "bread basket" is coming back growth wise....and will increase even more if the land reform program being envisioned is in fact passed...some even state it can become one of the largest grain growing regions of the world due to the black soil which even Hitler wanted...

    Ukrainian territorial size easily replaces UK what is not replaced by Ukraine is the UK fishing and shipping as Ukraine has never been strong in those areas.

    Ukraine defense industries and defense technology is rebuilding after years of neglect...especially in the areas if missile and aircraft design and production.

    Ukraine IT industry growth is now on track to become a major powerhouse player in both software development and hardware development as their coders are well respected for their work already in the US.

    Ukraine population will easily replace UK in numbers.....economic growth while in a total eastern front war is actually growing faster than UK GDP...and the currency has stabilized against the dollar and inflation is under control all caused by the Donbass war....that war has been seen to have shot a 20% hole in overall GDP growth....and yet the economy still is moving forward...and currently is growing at a steady pace.

    There are so hints that if car manufacturers pull out of UK due to not being a single EU trading zone which would then increase their car prices just to export into the EU..that they might trend towards Ukraine due to the lower costs of production especially now that the association agreement is in place....you saw see a similar development after the Turkish EU trade agreements where a number of old line German companies moved their production there.

    BTW...one of the main reasons the Dutch did not want to approve the association agreement was over their fear of being replaced in the agricultural sector...and that will be a hurdle if Ukraine does in the future join EU.

    The EU is a composite of small and large countries and a lot of effort goes into protecting the smaller member states vs the large ones and Ukraine will join France and Germany as a large future member state causing a minor panic among the smaller member states...

    So overall still stand by my comment...Ukraine will eventually replace all EU UK loses.
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    EXCLUSIVE: Russia's Putin accuses U.S. of interfering in elections around the world
    http://nbcnews.to/2qRhtAX

    Typical Putin statement..blame others for what you yourself does...have seen such statements constantly on the Ukraine from Putin since his invasion into eastern Ukraine in 2014....

    Russia has interfered into three recent elections in Eastern and Balkan areas and was involved in one coup attempt against a proWestern leader....

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    Florida Republican Aaron Nivens who dumped Russian hacked DNC election voter data for Roger Stone and was caught at it in a series of achieved tweets now wants a retraction by two social media journalists who broke the story....

    They remain with their stories and want Nivens to disprove his very own tweets to a Russian hacker Guccifer behind the DNC hack....

    Guccifer has now been identified as a front for Russian GRU hackers....

    Nivens tweet was deleted, but I have screenshots.
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    I have been posting enough around the use if Russian and US proTrump bots, botnets, Russian and US proTrump disinformation and propaganda and how they are tied together.....

    Finally someone from inside the bot world steps up and calls it what it is an information war being driven straight at Americans by both proTrump supporters and Russian trolls...and actually IMHO deliberateyl coordinated....

    This is a long read but worth it as it goes into good detail and supports his argument with screen shots to back up what he is saying....

    As someone who has a cybersecurity company which is deeply involved in identifying Russian botnetworks both criminal and state sponsored..what this article describes is both factual and highly accurate....and depicts what is really going on with an estimated 15M bots that claim to be ALL Trump "Followers".....

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...google-to.html

    How the Trump-Russia Data Machine Games Google to Fool Americans
    By Roger Sollenberger June 1, 2017

    A year ago I was part of a digital marketing team at a tech company. We were maybe the fifth largest company in our particular industry, which was drones. But we knew how to game Google, and our site was maxed out. We did our research and geared the content for the major keywords that we knew people used most frequently when they were shopping for drones or researching drones or looking for drone video. We knew our audience: their buying habits, their interests, ages, geography, etc., and soon our Google results were up there with a company that was literally an order of magnitude bigger than we were. A few months later, we were beating them at Google.
    Our sales reflected this nearly immediately, but perhaps more importantly, we were perceived as being much bigger and more influential than we actually were. It was unfair and fair at the same time. It’s just how that game is played, everywhere.
    But then the giants wised up, poured a ton of people and money into it and squashed us.
    Thing is, it doesn’t take all that much to do what we did. Ask any digital marketer. You just need a little experience and a whole lot of time and money. I’m not going to get into the weeds of SEO (search engine optimization). But I am going to say something that sounds completely insane, and warn you that we’re in the middle of something we’ve never experienced in America: a full-on psychological war. And Google, of all places, is a main battlefield.
    I’m going to show you one specific weapon in this war that’s being used against you and me and the United States right now: Google. There are other information weapons, such as bots and fake news sites, but other stories have those pretty well covered. But before we get started, though, two things to keep in mind:
    First, most of us don’t even know we’re in this war yet. You don’t know when you’ve been wounded, when you’ve been killed. And that’s the whole point: You’re not supposed to.
    Second, the attacks in this war aren’t aimed at your enemies. You attack your own side.
    Independence Is Division
    First: Why this is important. Why this is a war.
    Google, whether you’re aware of it or not, is a total slaughterhouse. Trump’s data team (he’s reportedly set up a “war room” to combat the Russia story) has weaponized information, and for about a year now has been slaying American brains: Trump supporters’ brains. It started with the election, then died down, but now it’s coming back, vengeful and desperate.
    As a result, we’re at a pivotal point not just in the life of our democracy, but in how we think, read, and make choices. Selective information is being presented to us in a way that encourages selective reading and offers psychological and social rewards for, to put it bluntly, being stupid and submissive and spreading stupid to submit others.
    This is, of course, about the truth, and about the cognitive and emotional vulnerabilities of Americans. This is nothing new for propagandists. What’s different now is that this propaganda is being gamed by professionals in a massive, orchestrated data campaign at a volume, pace, and consistency that not only muddies the truth, but completely eclipses the truth. Destroys the very notion of truth.
    I can describe it in no other terms but a war.
    The truth about the truth is that we believe because we want to, because our ability to think independently is a point of pride for Americans. The people behind the curtain are telling us the same story we tell ourselves about ourselves. But this is also a vulnerability: Independence is in its purist form a kind of division. If you exploit it the right way, you can turn a democracy against itself. If I think about this for too long I grow terrified and want to take everyone’s computer away. But it might be too late.
    Beyond the Bots: Trump’s Twitter Toupee
    The past few days, we’ve seen some good reporting about the surge of Trump bots on social media. (Bots are automated, non-human accounts.) And though he didn’t, as some people have claimed, net five million new Twitter followers in three days (though he did gain three million in May), nearly half of his followers, a full 49 percent, aren’t real people.
    That’s right: Trump is being followed by 15 million robots.
    The Washington Post just ran a pretty cowardly piece about Trump’s bot following. They titled it “Something Fishy Is Going on with Trump’s Twitter Account,” but didn’t say why this fishiness mattered in the first place. Who really cares if his followers are fake? So what if he wears a Twitter toupee? (A Twoupee, if you will.) We’re used to that from Trump.
    Here’s where WaPo wouldn’t, for some reason, go: those bots aren’t just digital codpieces. They’re attack vectors for weaponized information.
    What does that mean?

    Misinfotainment
    When we think about the Russian attacks during the election, most of us probably think of the DNC hacks, Podesta, and the steady drips from WikiLeaks of that stolen information. If you hate Hillary Clinton, I’m sure that at some point in the past nine months you’ve said something like, “Well, who cares how that information got out there, it’s the truth!”
    I won’t argue. Instead, I’d like to point out that’s not the whole story. According not just to me and FAKE NEWS! reports, but to the declassified U.S. intelligence report on Russian subversion in the 2016 election, the attacks included weaponizing false information (what “fake news” really is: stuff that’s entirely made up; pure fiction) and creating real-seeming sites to host this fake news. So no, the whole hacking effort was not just publishing “the truth” about Clinton. Much of it was publishing fake news. Or, perhaps more dangerously, misleading news.
    This brings us to Google today. A couple weeks ago I saw an insane person on my Facebook feed screaming about how Obama had leaked classified information about the Bin Laden raid that got people killed. What the ####? I’d never heard anything about this, and the raid was six years ago, and this guy was a total right-wing crackpot, which is the trifecta for guaranteeing at least fifteen full minutes of bat#### conspiracy theory misinfotainment. So I duly Googled “obama classified information bin laden.” If you do that right now, here’s what you get.

    WHAAAAAT?! Obama’s mouth killed people! Media is libturd hypocrites!
    Let’s ignore the criminal level of stupidity for a minute. Look instead at the dates on those articles. May 16 and 17 of this year. This year. The Bin Laden raid, again, was six ####ing years ago. What’s happening here? Why are all these different white nationalist news sites suddenly writing about this together? Why did they start doing it on May 16? Why do those articles even exist?
    Well, on May 15, you might remember, The Washington Post broke this little gem: President Trump shared top secret intel with the Russian Foreign Minister and Russian Ambassador. In the Oval Office. In front of Russian state media.
    Whoops-a-daisy!
    The right-wing bull#### factory lurched to life. These outlets launched a broad “what about?” attack, a coordinated attack, on Obama and the left. That bull#### story about Obama’s “dangerous” classified “leak” suddenly broke throughout the right-wing media sphere. Some of these articles are even cut-and-paste jobs. There’s no effort here, just content. Tons of content, made quickly, made together, all spewing the same lies, but optimized.
    And when I googled the search term the night of May 31, as I’m writing this, it’s even worse. The Washington Post, which had a page two hit on May 29, is now at the bottom of page four.

    Continue.....

    See? You’d either miss this caveat altogether, or you’d forget about it or write it off as meaningless or some kind of error. It’s so small, after all. This is completely forgivable: It’s a human vulnerability. I exhibit it. Everyone does. We want to be right. We trust our brains. We believe in ourselves, in our capacity to execute sound, independent judgment. But this is the very thing that’s being strategically exploited on a truly massive scale. This is a scheme to generate an overwhelming amount of misinformation, not just to combat a more nuanced truth, but to marginalize the truth, to weaken it, to BURY it underneath your own misplaced convictions about yourself.
    We’re being flattered into stupidity. Here’s how it works.

    How The SEOsage Is Made
    First: Create content that subtly masks the truth.
    Second: Shape that content into something people will share.
    Third: Make it identical, and make a ton of it.
    Fourth: Flood the internet with that content.
    Fifth: Flood the internet with that content.
    Six: Flood the ####ing internet with that content.


    Continued......
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    Trump has filled 5 out of 53 top jobs at the Pentagon, and 2 out of 16 at the Department of Homeland Security.

    Why are they not being filled..good question is it not?????

    AND he has virtually no ambassadors in place SO who is he suppose to turn in this emerging ME crisis?????

    The Latest: Saudi airline suspending flights to Qatar.....Saudi cutting also ties to Qatar as they view Qatar as fully suppori9nt Iran and since Trumps visit KSA views the US as fully supporting moves both political and military against Iran....

    Speed, scope and severity of escalation in Gulf crisis is stunning. Quite different than recent episodes of tension.
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