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    REMEMBER that Russia Today celebration dinner held in Moscow last year that Flynn and Jill Stein from the Green Party attended and both she and Flynn sat on the same table with Putin????

    Well when asked by reporters about that dinner party where photos do exist.....

    It's amazing how no one at the table spoke to one another.

    Putin, Flynn and Stein all on a small round dinner table making conversations easy and no "small talk"......????

    I have a bridge in the desert to sell....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUTLAW 09 View Post
    Chris Christie just told @NicolleDWallace that Trump's attempts to undermine the FBI's independence are just "normal New York City talk."

    SO the obstruction of justice is just "normal NYC Trump trash talk?????

    NYC is the new locker room????

    SO we hear the same lame excuse given by Trump supporters THAT they gave to the Trump sex videos before the election..."that is just what boys do in the locker room among themselves"....

    Sound similar????

    AND a street comment from NYC.....Well Trump is in construction and we in NY all know. You can't pour an ounce of cement unless mafia gives ok to work. Trump ran his businesses like the mafia and it extends into govt. NATO becomes protection racket. Employees take loyalty oaths. GOP omerta.

    MORE NYC street comments yesterday.....
    Comey: He's guilty
    Democrats: He's guilty
    Trump: I'm guilty
    Republicans: We may never get to the bottom of this


    US Attorney SDNY‏
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    33 members of Russian OC org, including ‘vor’ of enterprise, charged w/racketeering, extortion, robbery, murder4hire
    http://go.usa.gov/xNmRh
    Charged Defendants Include Alleged “Vor” or “Thief-In-Law” of a Russian and Georgian Criminal Enterprise

    This explains the Russian term "vor"......

    Vyacheslav Ivankof a.k.a Patriarch Krill wearing his "Vor" (thief) tattoos.

    Acting Manhattan U.S. Attorney Joon H. Kim said:# “Today, we have charged 33 members and associates of a Russian organized crime syndicate allegedly engaging a panoply of crimes around the country. The indictments include charges against the alleged head of this national criminal enterprise, one of the first federal racketeering charges ever brought against a Russian ‘vor.’ The dizzying array of criminal schemes committed by#this organized crime syndicate allegedly include a murder-for-hire conspiracy, a plot to rob victims by seducing and drugging them with chloroform, the theft of cargo shipments containing over 10,000 pounds of chocolate, and a fraud on casino slot machines using electronic hacking devices. Thanks to the remarkable interagency partnership of FBI, CBP, and NYPD, we have charged and arrested 33 defendants allegedly involved in this criminal enterprise.”
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    Trump's links to Russia get even more bizarre with evidence of reaching out to Putin's agent of influence Medvedchuk
    http://www.neweasterneurope.eu/artic...or-medvedchuk#
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    Noga Tarnopolsky

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    I helped prosecute Watergate. Comey’s statement is sufficient evidence for an obstruction of justice case.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini....4c6e74d3199e#

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    US white supremacist violence is climbing and not a word from the Trump WH...locals who knew both stated they had been big Trump supporters...
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    “No Safe Spaces on the Flat Earth” – Emergent Alt-Right Inspired Flat Earth Online Communities via @bellingcat
    https://www.bellingcat.com/resources...-communities/#

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    Saudi has played Trump so brilliantly. And Trump thinks his trip went well.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...atar-conflict?

    Iran minister calls Trump's condolences for attacks 'repugnant'
    http://reut.rs/2r4oApS
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    This is exactly what Trump and his tweeting fingers walked right into and never saw it coming......

    Fascinating @washingtonpost piece investigating inter-state cyber conflict in the Gulf via twitter bot armies
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/....79435b70d8d6#

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    From one of the two social media journalists that have between them broken over 10 stories on the Russian Trump connections that have in the last two weeks been largely confirmed by US MSM....

    1. My takeaway on Comey statement. He went as far as Mueller would let him go. Mueller let him establish obstruction of justice re Flynn

    2. so the precedent is there and will be easy to prove together with Trump's other actions. He's confirmed obstruction. Trump's toast.

    This is in reference to the written Comey and Senate released yesterday....and does not included what Comey states today under oath.....

    REMEMBER a total of four former and current government officials have stated Trump asked to stop the Flynn investigation...for a normal US citizen this more than enough for a Federal charge of obstruction..

    Comey defined the story before Trump can tweet anything. Brilliant move. AND it defined the 24 hour news cycle before his hearing and forced Trump supporters onto the defensive which can be seen in their massive social media attempt to discredit Comey...
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    "64% of Republicans say Trump is not level-headed, while 32% think he is"
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ac-poll-239250

    So what we now have is the bottom line of the Trump supporter base...ie 32% and 32% will not carry the GOP in 2018.....

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    In the Comey written statement Trump talked about hookers....

    From a GOP Congressman....

    Rep. Rooney said Trump's comments about Russian hookers were "perfectly logical."

    What is even more interesting is that Trump indicated in the statement he knew he was being monitored in Russia so why did he not understand the Russian US ambassador would not be monitored in the US???

    AND what the heck does NJ Governor Christie mean with this statement....

    Chris Christie: Sure, Trump tried to undermine the FBI's independence, but "the people elected an outsider candidate."
    SO the Christie assumption is "outsiders are above the rule of law"...as that sure sounds like what he is saying....

    AND Christie went on to state the following....
    Chris Christie says Trump asked Comey about the investigation of his top aides b/c "he wanted to get to the bottom of things."

    ...riiiiight. Because Trump acted immediately when the truth came out about Flynn. And Sessions. And Kushner.

    AND MORE Trump excuses from GOP Congressmen...
    Rep. Chris Collins: Trump Was Trying To Protect Flynn As A Friend, Not Stop An Investigation
    http://trib.al/PLM3ST2
    THAT is not exactly what Comey wrote in his statement....
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    Little known facts about Trumps own personal lawyer.....

    In-laws&brother of Michael Cohen, Trumplawyer who got a check in '99 for $350k from Russian mob.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...-story#…

    AND REMEMBER Michael Cohen could not remember when and from whom he got a 350K USD check BUT when cashed it had his signature on the back.....and it went into his own bank account...until the Feds knocked on his door and asked about it....
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    Russia in USA #
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    If Washington fails to restore diplomatic immunity of property there will be a ###-for-tat response in regard to #US facilities in @Russia

    A message for Donald Trump from the home office

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    THIS is the core problem right now with Trump and his merryband of followers....this lawyer evidently has never heard of the term "Memorandum for Record"....a common tool in the Civil Service and Police worlds...AND if Tumps lawyr paid close attention to the 7 page MOR....Comeyworked though the MOR with his senior staff thus witnesses were and are available attesting to the validity the MOR....

    MORs are often used as actual evidence of meeting between individuals when recordings are not being made....or the meeting was critical and to recall the critical points....

    BUT WAIT...Trump alluded and threatened Comey with a recording WHICH has not been made public by Trump...if it even exists...

    The outside counsel for President Donald Trump on Thursday disputed key points of the testimony of former FBI director James Comey, and said in a statement that a Senate hearing established that the president was not being investigated for collusion or obstruction.
    The attorney, Marc Kasowitz, said Trump did not ask Comey for his loyalty and did not direct or suggest to Comey that he stop investigating former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
    "The president never, in form or substance, directed or suggested that Mr. Comey stop investigating anyone, including suggesting that Mr. Comey 'let Flynn go,'" Kasowitz said.
    BUT here is the key....after the Comey hearing the WH immediately stated Trump has never lied....

    Does Trump have a history of lying? Ask his former lawyers in 2010:
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    I see that we're getting a play-by-play of #ComeyDay, because of course none of that is happening on Twitter or Disqus...

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    Default WaPo: Comey denounces New York Times story

    By Erik Wemple: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.df8a13fd25e7

    In his Thursday testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, former FBI director James B. Comey said that a controversial New York Times story in February about alleged contacts between Trump intimates and Russian officials was bogus. “In the main, it was not true,” he said.

    “The challenge, and I’m not picking on reporters, about writing stories about classified information is the people talking about it often don’t really know what’s going on and those of us who actually know what’s going on are not talking about it,” said Comey during questioning from Sen. James Risch (R-Idaho). “And we don’t call the press and say, ‘Hey, you got that thing wrong.’ ”

    The comments from Comey revive a rather heated media-politics brushfire from the very early days of the Trump administration. Published amid the ouster of then-national security adviser Michael Flynn over his statements about contacts with Russia, the Feb. 14 New York Times story contained ordnance. The opening sentence: “Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.” Though the story said that officials had found no evidence of collusion by Trump associates with Russia, it alleged that the intercepted communications “alarmed” U.S. officials because it overlapped with Trump’s complimentary comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    One of the people picked up on the surveillance, reported the New York Times, was Paul Manafort, who served for a time as Trump’s presidential campaign chairman. Manafort called the reporting “absurd.” A correction added on the day of publication read, “An earlier version of this article misstated the number of people (in addition to Paul Manafort) whom the F.B.I. has examined. It is at least three, not at least four.” And the newspaper acknowledged the limitations of its reporting: “The officials would not disclose many details, including what was discussed on the calls, the identity of the Russian intelligence officials who participated, and how many of Mr. Trump’s advisers were talking to the Russians. It is also unclear whether the conversations had anything to do with Mr. Trump himself,” noted the story.

    Lack of detail notwithstanding, the story shook the White House. White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus told “Fox News Sunday,” “The New York Times put out an article with no direct sources that said that the Trump campaign had constant contacts with Russian spies, basically, you know, some treasonous type of accusations. We have now all kinds of people looking into this. I can assure you and I have been approved to say this — that the top levels of the intelligence community have assured me that that story is not only inaccurate, but it’s grossly overstated and it was wrong. And there’s nothing to it.”

    Not only that: CNN reported that the White House had asked top FBI personnel to rebut the New York Times piece, perhaps by speaking to reporters on background — even though the White House at the time was denouncing anonymous sources. The FBI declined to do so at the time.

    Attacks from folks such as Priebus prompted New York Times Executive Editor Dean Baquet to issue this defense: “The Times had numerous sources confirming this story. Attacking it does not make it less true.”

    Things have changed. Before, White House officials — a crew known to blast the media for often specious and baseless reasons — were blasting the story. Now a straight-shooting former FBI director is blasting the story. In addition, Comey confirmed Risch’s contentions that the former FBI director responded to the New York Times story by checking with his intelligence sources and informing lawmakers that it wasn’t accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azor View Post
    Azor.......loved the comments concerning twitter BUT you will have noticed that I was not on much yesterday...why ....we were using the twitter chatter to both track and chart alt right twitter accounts and their tie ins to a particular Russian automated botnet controlled out of St. Petersburg....our old friends from Ukrainian disinformation attacks are in heavy use in defense today of Trump....WHY is that???

    The more they get active the more we understand that particular botnet as we assume it is 100% GRU controlled based on the server sets we are following...

    NOW this is something that you and others need to watch for was this as the Trump saga unfolds...there are a number of CI tactics used to shake the cherries from the tree so to say and then watch where the cherries are eaten and by whom....

    If you really think the NYTs which has been repeatedly called "fakes news" and dead by Trump would have allowed a story about Trump to go into print without at least THREE verifiying and confirming AND this is key THREE different sources...then I have a small foot bridge to sell you and it is in AFG...

    The case against Trump is the following first of all it is a criminal case of money laundering or a RICO case, secondly it is a case of collusion and or treason take your choice and lastly obstruction...

    AND from the Russian side....money laundering in a way never seen before in the US, hacking, influence operations and lastly pure spying.....all wrapped up in the Russian term "active measures".....

    BTW NOTICED you did not comment on the Twitter research...when the dust settles on this fiasco of a Trump WH and I get permission from my customer to release the botnet data you might be able to fully understand the depth of the Russian influence operation which has actually been ongoing since 2014 TOGETHER with the US alt right...... ie white nationalist internet sites and GOP background financiers....REMEMBER Russia played and is still playing both the US Left and US Right in order to destabalize the entire US.

    BTW...check the number of Trump twitter followers which today it is at 32M....6.6M automated bot followers have been added in the last ten days and out of the 32M approximately 18M are in fact bots driven by two botnet automated networks.....with their control servers outside the US...why would that be????

    Out of the recent 6.6M we have seen and are tracking 1.5M what have been suddenly active in the support of Trump and tweeting against those on twitter that are against Trump in the form of spamming ALL suddenly in the last three days....ALL 1.5M are automatically responding to an outside the US control server...why is that????

    Intelligence sources: Comey Day: 'Meticulously Executed' Testimony Was Counterintelligence Plan

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    Azor....if we cannot agree on the following then you have a serious problem.....


    Comey was asked why Americans should care about the investigation into Russian meddling in the U.S. election.
    http://n.pr/2rZpYJM

    Azor.....
    NOW my personal comment that you need to pay attention to....

    IF as we hear from Trump and his WH AND now from his own defense lawyer "I have no connections, have no businesses inside or outside with Russians...."

    THEN kill this whole thing BY releasing literally every tax year since his first Russian trip in 1986, release all debt load loans from foreign banks ie Deutsche Bank and three Chinese Banks, release all data on any and every Russian who owns Trump property and then release the same exact data for his two sons and his son-in-law....

    AND unseal all his past criminal cases where Trump settled out of court and then had the files sealed....

    THAT should put this whole thing to bed for once and for all times......

    SO when that is not done and is resisted every step of the way with all kinds of cover-up excuses to not provide the information ....DRAW your own assumptions for the reason WHY????

    AND THEN require all House and Senate types to release any and all information on any Russian campaign loans and or business deals and or stock holdings in Russian companies...I personally know of 15....9 House and 6 Senate....

    Is that an easy thing to put to bed??...IMHO very easy if one is not guilty of anything...
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    We all need to heed the single telling comment from Comey on his public hearing in the Senate....

    "There is a clear story to all of this...we know what it is .....BUT when people learn of it they will be asking how did I believe the information and they will question it......

    His comment went largely unheeded by MSM...IC did not ignore it.....

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    Azor....you will be hearing more about this constellation in the coming weeks....

    Mangushev links all over the place. Mangushev - Belchenko - Alex Sorsher -works at A & D mortgage – Max Slyusarchuk – Michael Caputo

    Especially around their business ties to the "Motherland".....and to Michael Caputo a US citizen and proTrump supporter....
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